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By:
Ron-Russian
When: 07 Feb 16 21:52
who wants to walk round in a shuttlecock,

what world are these loon women in
By:
blackbarn
When: 07 Feb 16 21:52
Ron - I did explain the process earlier. The key bit of halal (and shechita) is the religious element of the slaughter - its basically prayer at the death of the animal. Apart from this, if the animal is stunned and then throat slit, the process is the same whether halal or my local slaughterhouse. 

I asked if you were returning to your original post because your last post (21.34) had nothing to do with your original post.
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 07 Feb 16 21:56
Pathetic isn't it wmfb.

Its like we're putting ourselves up for being over-run/defeated.

Are all these lefties must think their heads won't be coming off what
with all the good work they do


that one.

stunned & throat slip isnt proper halal tho?
By:
blackbarn
When: 07 Feb 16 21:59
wfb - so the FSA invented this data, which was then published by them in 2013. The RSPCA belived it and then published it. AND all because it was good to placate the muslim population. LaughLaughLaughLaugh
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 07 Feb 16 22:02
we are putting ourselves up for being over-run imo.

they don't like us remember the quote from the Quran i quoted,
it's pretend!

when the time comes it will be to late for lefties and everyone else
that don't want guidance from a sick peado
By:
blackbarn
When: 07 Feb 16 22:05
Ron - ffs - Are you being deliberately obtuse.  Your standard cow, pig and sheep, are STUNNED, and then have their throats cut, to ensure proper bleeding. This is the standard UK Slaughterhouse process.  Ask your butcher.

Most Halal killed animals are killed by exactly the same process, with the addition of the religious bit (prayers etc). I doubt the animal prays alongWink  Of course a proportion of halal kills are not pre-stunned and many would argue that this is cruel, but many would not as the throat slit is pretty instantaneous.
By:
blackbarn
When: 07 Feb 16 22:07
ffs Ron - its Paedo.  I hesitate to profess how to spell it, but your credibility is being damaged.
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 07 Feb 16 22:11
Im not heading off to the butchers tomorrow, i think i know
stunned then killed is the normal way.

I think theres some lies being told some where along the line
as basically your saying muslims are happy to go with what we do,
but just mention some nonsense prayer?

i couldn't see them having that?
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 07 Feb 16 22:19
Its not really a word i'm familiar with tbh.

What with being a Christian Devil

In truth im nothing, but can see whats happening in the UK & it's not good.
By:
akabula
When: 07 Feb 16 22:24
By the way, which bit of my "By the way gassing chickens or your Christmas Turkey is not Halal (allowed) as it offends the animal cruelty rules" is nonsense.

For the simple reason that the animal has to be still alive before slitting it's throat and bleeding it.
If they killed the animal by gassing it then it wouldn't be 'Halal'.
By:
David Fishwick Minibus Sales
When: 07 Feb 16 22:27
do you all wear wannabe uniforms?
By:
akabula
When: 07 Feb 16 22:27
Paedo or peado I think we all know what he meant so why so pedantic?
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 07 Feb 16 22:30
Best thing to do is STOP eating the ship that
we've more or less been force fed over the last 30+ years.

then they might all start f in off home Wink
By:
Just Checking
When: 07 Feb 16 22:30
Don't you mean "paedantic"?  Laugh
By:
blackbarn
When: 07 Feb 16 22:33
akabula....

which bit of my "By the way gassing chickens or your Christmas Turkey is not Halal (allowed) as it offends the animal cruelty rules" is nonsense.

For the simple reason that the animal has to be still alive before slitting it's throat and bleeding it. If they killed the animal by gassing it then it wouldn't be 'Halal'.

As I said we are in violent agreement. My not halal is a bit of a clue, isnt it.
By:
blackbarn
When: 07 Feb 16 22:36
akabulae - I am not usually that pedantic as you know.  It is only because his annoying pomposity and uncertain certainty that drives me to it.   I used to be the same about youWink
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 07 Feb 16 22:42
What % of the UK would you say want Halal Meat at a guess blackbarn?

I Can see this changing whatever you say downwards as people are
sick of this nonsense we're having put upon us.

Indian Restaurants are a gonna, they was already moaning about not enough
indian chefs coming through for the reason, nah people are sick of your type
By:
akabula
When: 07 Feb 16 22:43
Don't you mean "paedantic"?  Laugh
By:
Wesdag
When: 07 Feb 16 22:46
I think the op is wasting his time here.

If you take a look at the average Brit, do you really think they give a fcuk about how or where their food comes from?
By:
akabula
When: 07 Feb 16 22:48
If yer average Brit is anything like yer average cc poster then I'd agree.
By:
Wesdag
When: 07 Feb 16 22:51
This certainly isn't a nation of careful eaters.
By:
blackbarn
When: 07 Feb 16 22:52
Ron - No idea, but perhaps not many if your level of ignorance of the subject is typical. I'd like to think that many are better informed than you but perhaps not.   Anyway, people don't really care do they (apart from you, me and a few others Wink)

Supermarket chicken is the perfect example - raised is s hit circumstances, pumped full of garbage and then gassed to death (no pre-stunning) - in fact they are lucky if get halal'ed (got it now AkabulaWink).
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 07 Feb 16 23:00
I don't want to eat halal meat it's quite simple as i think
its not only cruel but disgusting.
exactly what you would expect from a barbaric religion.

people are eating it by mistake,

it should be a minimal percentage job in this country, but unbeknowingly
we're all eating it.
By:
Wesdag
When: 07 Feb 16 23:03
Add Dominoes Pizza to your list.
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 07 Feb 16 23:04
This isn't about me.

It's about the future blackbarn!
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 07 Feb 16 23:09
Yes Wesdag but why would they concentrate and bend over backwards
for a small %.
they are all at it...trying to please a crazy religion?
Is it a dream & im going to wake up in a minute Confused

surely any business would want to attract the majority?
By:
Foinavon
When: 07 Feb 16 23:14
Can't see it being good economics for a slaughterhouse to have separate streams for religious slaughter and not. In all likelihood if the slaughterhouse has a demand for halal then everything goes the same way, some just not labelled that way. (have never seen meat labelled that it's not halal or Koscher)
By:
Wesdag
When: 07 Feb 16 23:18
R-R if 90% don't care where their meat comes from but 10% do, who are you going to listen to?

If the 90% will buy anyway, then keep the 10% sweet.

Simple business logic.
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 07 Feb 16 23:20
You just can't make up whats going on in this country at the moment.

all the good work over the years to get us where we are, respect for
the law/women/crime/ect ect.

Now we are being dragged backwards? & we're being guided to suit
people that think it's fine to stone women to death, rape women,
throw *** people off tall buildings ect ect ect.

& we're actually working to please this nonsense religion ffs wake up
before it's to late!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By:
blackbarn
When: 07 Feb 16 23:22
Ron - Why on earth would a commercial company seek to satisfy a "crazy" and "minority" religion. Perhaps they've taken the view that halal is irrelevant and/or no one gives a tos s.
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 07 Feb 16 23:31
time will tell.

general feeling is people are sick of this religion being pushed on to them.
more than ever at the moment.

it's not like they work or anything is it? they just claim of tax payers going
to work while they go to the mosque ect ect.

Im still waiting for someone to quote me any good guidance from
the Quran?

Is there anything in there that id like bar frowning on?????
By:
blackbarn
When: 07 Feb 16 23:41
I'd just keep posting on here Ron. You'll be converting the faithful.  You never did say how your gassed chicken tasted.
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 07 Feb 16 23:44
how about JUST assume no one gives a toss blackbarn.

put a few videos on it would soon change peoples minds,

instead easier to keep them in the dark an force feed food
advised from a sick warp minded culture.
By:
akabula
When: 07 Feb 16 23:47
I gave up meat eating a while back Ron so whether stamped Halal or not I wouldn't notice.
I never try to preach to people on eating meat but do on the animals right to dignity in both it's life and how it's killed.
I don't believe the statistics given on Halal produce. Maybe some stun but I'd guess the vast majority don't.
You never did say how your gassed chicken tasted. Why are you continually bringing this up? Looks like an attempt at cheap point scoring at best.
By:
akabula
When: 07 Feb 16 23:51
Agreed Ron. An advertising campaign similar to that of cigarettes where they show the clogged up arteries.
Seeing someone getting tucked into a bacon sarnie then switching to a vid of pigs in cramped conditions with unsuitable flooring.
Or birds getting force fed. Or - feck the list is endless.
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 07 Feb 16 23:58
good on you akabula!

reckon i could easily knock meat on the head, specially with all the nonsense
going on confusing buyers
By:
blackbarn
When: 08 Feb 16 00:02
Aka - as you know, as a meat raiser I am in total agreement with your second sentence.

Re your "dont believe the stats" re halal. Thats fine, but what do you have? Every bit of data, even from those who have no axe to grind says that most is stunned. The %'s vary but they still say the bulk is.  Frankly I don't really care as I am not convinced by stunning. I am happy with relaxed, gentle and then quick.

I bring up gassed chicken because it is a perfect example of double standards in the killing of edible stock. We have people on here without the faintest idea of how meat is killed, criticising the process, who eat £5 chicken raised in horrible conditions and gassed to death.  AND then we pi ss about as to whether an animal is stunned or not before its throat is cut.

Still, each to his own.
By:
blackbarn
When: 08 Feb 16 00:04
how about JUST assume no one gives a toss blackbarn.

put a few videos on it would soon change peoples minds,

instead easier to keep them in the dark an force feed food
advised from a sick warp minded culture.
By:
Ron-Russian
When: 08 Feb 16 00:08
Probably best to stop talking to yourself.
By:
blackbarn
When: 08 Feb 16 00:10
All - ignore my 00.04 post which posts Rons post of 23.44 very accuratelyCrazy
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