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Kit-Kat-Dan
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MP Toby Perkins has started an online petition to change the English national anthem played at sporting events, from God Save the Queen to Jerusalem, bringing England in line with the other home nations.

https://www.politicshome.com/culture-and-sport-party-politics/articles/opinion/house-commons/toby-perkins-mp-it-time-let-england
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Report Ramruma • January 29, 2016 2:40 PM GMT
If there is any anthem less suitable than God Save the Queen, it is surely Jerusalem which is quite hard to sing, and whose most stirring words (chariot of fire etc) come in the third verse. Hard to imagine it being belted out from the terraces (even if we still had terraces).

Still, it's got some rentaquote backbencher into the local paper and the chit chat forum, which was probably the main idea.
Report trilby22 • January 29, 2016 3:01 PM GMT
Land Of Hope and Glory, for me.
Report trilby22 • January 29, 2016 3:02 PM GMT
GSTQ is the BRITISH national anthem.  That's why we Scots often boo it when Scotland play England in rugby, fitba, etc.
Report Jack Hacksaw • January 29, 2016 4:39 PM GMT
A song without a mention of 'God' would do for me.
Report Kit-Kat-Dan • January 29, 2016 5:07 PM GMT
Land of Hope & Glory is about Britain so effectively no different to GSTQ, whereas Jerusalem is about England.

The daily rendition of Jerusalem by the England cricket fans always seems to raise a bit of emotion in the crowd.
Report adamski • January 29, 2016 5:13 PM GMT
I prefer Land of Hope & Glory, it always worked well in the Commonwealth Games until someone decided to change it.
Report Jack Hacksaw • January 29, 2016 5:18 PM GMT
As an anthem should be uplifting, if we really want to create emotion and euphoria, why shouldn't we adopt something along the lines of the New Zealand's Haka.  Song AND Dance.

But something innately British.

I give you, 'Oops, Up Side Your Head'.
Report Roquebrune • January 29, 2016 5:38 PM GMT
Any of those tunes you hear while eating in a curry restaurant...
Report Darlo Bantam • January 29, 2016 5:54 PM GMT

Jan 29, 2016 -- 5:18PM, Jack Hacksaw wrote:


As an anthem should be uplifting, if we really want to create emotion and euphoria, why shouldn't we adopt something along the lines of the New Zealand's Haka.  Song AND Dance.But something innately British.I give you, 'Oops, Up Side Your Head'.


Canny comparison to New Zealand, since their national anthem is God Save the Queen.

Report trilby22 • January 29, 2016 8:18 PM GMT
Land of Cor Blimey, Charlee!
Report trilby22 • January 29, 2016 8:19 PM GMT
Land of GTF Mussie Bazza
Report akabula • January 29, 2016 9:25 PM GMT
If you're happy and you know it ..... whilst Morris dancing fits the bill Jack.
Report bongo • January 29, 2016 10:10 PM GMT
Not something the government should get involved in.
I don't want government deciding what the English national dish is, or the national dress, or what people sing or listen to at sporting events.
The free market has got this covered, and if the Commonwealth Games Committee wants to choose a different anthem for their medallists than the Rugby Football Union or the Chipping Norton street party, then let them do so. MPs should butt out, and concentrate on other shine.
Report akabula • January 29, 2016 10:30 PM GMT
Ah well wait until some council plays Allah is Great at the start and end of there Gala day.
Report bongo • January 29, 2016 10:48 PM GMT
I don't know that one akabula - is it the one with a lot of wailing?
Report EvgenyKissin • January 29, 2016 11:16 PM GMT
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Report Mikael D'Haguenet • January 30, 2016 10:54 AM GMT
Toby Perkins is my MP. He backed the pseudo-Tory Liz Kendall in the Labour leadership election, so he's a c*nt. What's wrong with God Save the Queen anyway?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqrAPOZxgzU
Report Room 0182 • January 30, 2016 11:44 AM GMT
What has this got to do with politicians?
Report pantsonfire • January 30, 2016 11:59 AM GMT
I also like the idea to follow in New Zealands footsteps and combine music with dance. What could be more English than the Okey Cokey. Granted some of the footballers would have to learn which foot was right and left but it would get my vote. Surely it couldn't offend anybody.
Report Wallflower • January 30, 2016 12:11 PM GMT
Related to this - you would think Northern Ireland would change their anthem. If England did so - as they should, they are playing as England not Britain - you would think NI would come under pressure to do so.  The Irish Rugby team changed theirs - which I thought was quite decent of them to do so. Since its a dual citizenship "state" its weird to have the anthem only reflect one of the nationalities?
Report Jack Hacksaw • January 30, 2016 1:17 PM GMT
I also like the idea to follow in New Zealands footsteps and combine music with dance. What could be more English than the Okey Cokey. Granted some of the footballers would have to learn which foot was right and left but it would get my vote. Surely it couldn't offend anybody.

May not go down too well in the Paralympics.
Report Clouseau • January 30, 2016 2:01 PM GMT
Theme from Dad's Army for me.
Report Clouseau • January 30, 2016 2:03 PM GMT
... bit like the sweaties going on about Edward'S Army, te think agin.
Report akabula • January 30, 2016 2:06 PM GMT
Wallflower  • January 30, 2016 12:11 PM GMT 
Related to this - you would think Northern Ireland would change their anthem. If England did so - as they should, they are playing as England not Britain - you would think NI would come under pressure to do so.  The Irish Rugby team changed theirs - which I thought was quite decent of them to do so. Since its a dual citizenship "state" its weird to have the anthem only reflect one of the nationalities?


I thought the Rugby team kept the old anthem but also play Irelands Call. I'm sure I heard both last time I watched the rugby.
Would be a good idea if for the sport both adopted Irelands call which must surely appeal to everyone.
Report FredRescue • January 30, 2016 8:04 PM GMT
Northern Ireland will be the only country playing the God Save the Queen anthem in Euro 2016 Cool
Report Just Checking • January 30, 2016 9:57 PM GMT
Pretty stupid to name your national anthem after a town on the other side of the world.

Why not "New York New York"?
Report DStyle • January 30, 2016 10:29 PM GMT
i detest Jerusalem. Blake's poem is just about acceptable (despite the answer to the question being a resounding no, he did not), but Parry's score sucks balls.

we should also remember that its invention came about as a clarion call for men to go and sacrifice themselves on the western front during world war 1. It has a blind, public school, tub-thumping patriotic stupidity to it which makes my skin crawl.

It's even worse than ruddy faced white middle class men singing negro spirituals at the rugby.
Report DStyle • January 30, 2016 10:35 PM GMT
if we are going to change it, might i suggest reworking the words of god save the queen to the tunes of either the russian or sri lankan national anthems who are the runaway winners.

failing that we could all just whistle the theme from the great escape.
Report Charlie • January 30, 2016 10:43 PM GMT
Rule Britannia.
Report AFTERTHOUGHT • January 31, 2016 2:04 AM GMT
Anything from Monty Python, Medical Love song has a catchy beat and of course lets not forget Always look on the bright side of life !
Report dukeofpuke • January 31, 2016 2:05 AM GMT
im a lumberjack and im ok
Report AFTERTHOUGHT • January 31, 2016 2:11 AM GMT
Dress up in womens clothing and hang around in bars,

I wish I was a girlie just like my dear Papa,

It's catchy ain't it. I'm sure it would grow on the Queen.
Report Foinavon • January 31, 2016 8:29 PM GMT
Considering the state of our roads, "I Like Trucking" might be appropriate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZbQ3lTObas

Not keen on "Jerusalem". If we must have a hymn then "I Vow to Thee My Country" is sung to a wonderful piece of music by Gustav Holst.
Report annie. • January 31, 2016 11:21 PM GMT
I find it very stirring to sing 'land of hope and glory', 'I vow to thee my country' and 'Jerusalem', but the words are either religious or monarchist or both.  Don't get me wrong I think the queen does a very good job - but I would never kneel to her.  And i think religion is a pile of poo.

We need an anthem just about england, nothing else.
Report Capt__F • January 31, 2016 11:24 PM GMT
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Report Grim Reaper • February 1, 2016 8:02 PM GMT
Back Home

Back home, they'll be thinking about us
When we are far away
Back home, they'll be really behind us
In every game we play
We will still hear them roaring
And we'll give all we've got to give
For the folks back home

Back home, they'll be watching and waiting
And cheering every move
Back home, though they think we're the greatest
That's what we've got to prove
Once more we will meet with the best
Like before we'll be put to the test
Oh we will give all we've got to give
For the folks back home

They'll see as they're watching and praying
That we put our hearts in our playing
We'll fight until the whistle goes
For the folks back home

Rousing Tune If Ever!!!
Report Alices • February 1, 2016 9:39 PM GMT
While I don't think there is anything wrong with LOHAG, I would suggest Land of Saint George by Citizen Steve, can't do links but it's on youtube
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