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Kit-Kat-Dan
29 Jan 16 14:16
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MP Toby Perkins has started an online petition to change the English national anthem played at sporting events, from God Save the Queen to Jerusalem, bringing England in line with the other home nations.

https://www.politicshome.com/culture-and-sport-party-politics/articles/opinion/house-commons/toby-perkins-mp-it-time-let-england

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By:
Ramruma
When: 29 Jan 16 14:40
If there is any anthem less suitable than God Save the Queen, it is surely Jerusalem which is quite hard to sing, and whose most stirring words (chariot of fire etc) come in the third verse. Hard to imagine it being belted out from the terraces (even if we still had terraces).

Still, it's got some rentaquote backbencher into the local paper and the chit chat forum, which was probably the main idea.
By:
trilby22
When: 29 Jan 16 15:01
Land Of Hope and Glory, for me.
By:
trilby22
When: 29 Jan 16 15:02
GSTQ is the BRITISH national anthem.  That's why we Scots often boo it when Scotland play England in rugby, fitba, etc.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 29 Jan 16 16:39
A song without a mention of 'God' would do for me.
By:
Kit-Kat-Dan
When: 29 Jan 16 17:07
Land of Hope & Glory is about Britain so effectively no different to GSTQ, whereas Jerusalem is about England.

The daily rendition of Jerusalem by the England cricket fans always seems to raise a bit of emotion in the crowd.
By:
adamski
When: 29 Jan 16 17:13
I prefer Land of Hope & Glory, it always worked well in the Commonwealth Games until someone decided to change it.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 29 Jan 16 17:18
As an anthem should be uplifting, if we really want to create emotion and euphoria, why shouldn't we adopt something along the lines of the New Zealand's Haka.  Song AND Dance.

But something innately British.

I give you, 'Oops, Up Side Your Head'.
By:
Roquebrune
When: 29 Jan 16 17:38
Any of those tunes you hear while eating in a curry restaurant...
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 29 Jan 16 17:54

Jan 29, 2016 -- 5:18PM, Jack Hacksaw wrote:


As an anthem should be uplifting, if we really want to create emotion and euphoria, why shouldn't we adopt something along the lines of the New Zealand's Haka.  Song AND Dance.But something innately British.I give you, 'Oops, Up Side Your Head'.


Canny comparison to New Zealand, since their national anthem is God Save the Queen.

By:
trilby22
When: 29 Jan 16 20:18
Land of Cor Blimey, Charlee!
By:
trilby22
When: 29 Jan 16 20:19
Land of GTF Mussie Bazza
By:
akabula
When: 29 Jan 16 21:25
If you're happy and you know it ..... whilst Morris dancing fits the bill Jack.
By:
bongo
When: 29 Jan 16 22:10
Not something the government should get involved in.
I don't want government deciding what the English national dish is, or the national dress, or what people sing or listen to at sporting events.
The free market has got this covered, and if the Commonwealth Games Committee wants to choose a different anthem for their medallists than the Rugby Football Union or the Chipping Norton street party, then let them do so. MPs should butt out, and concentrate on other shine.
By:
akabula
When: 29 Jan 16 22:30
Ah well wait until some council plays Allah is Great at the start and end of there Gala day.
By:
bongo
When: 29 Jan 16 22:48
I don't know that one akabula - is it the one with a lot of wailing?
By:
EvgenyKissin
When: 29 Jan 16 23:16
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By:
bongo
When: 30 Jan 16 10:17
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By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 30 Jan 16 10:54
Toby Perkins is my MP. He backed the pseudo-Tory Liz Kendall in the Labour leadership election, so he's a c*nt. What's wrong with God Save the Queen anyway?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqrAPOZxgzU
By:
Room 0182
When: 30 Jan 16 11:44
What has this got to do with politicians?
By:
pantsonfire
When: 30 Jan 16 11:59
I also like the idea to follow in New Zealands footsteps and combine music with dance. What could be more English than the Okey Cokey. Granted some of the footballers would have to learn which foot was right and left but it would get my vote. Surely it couldn't offend anybody.
By:
Wallflower
When: 30 Jan 16 12:11
Related to this - you would think Northern Ireland would change their anthem. If England did so - as they should, they are playing as England not Britain - you would think NI would come under pressure to do so.  The Irish Rugby team changed theirs - which I thought was quite decent of them to do so. Since its a dual citizenship "state" its weird to have the anthem only reflect one of the nationalities?
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 30 Jan 16 13:17
I also like the idea to follow in New Zealands footsteps and combine music with dance. What could be more English than the Okey Cokey. Granted some of the footballers would have to learn which foot was right and left but it would get my vote. Surely it couldn't offend anybody.

May not go down too well in the Paralympics.
By:
Clouseau
When: 30 Jan 16 14:01
Theme from Dad's Army for me.
By:
Clouseau
When: 30 Jan 16 14:03
... bit like the sweaties going on about Edward'S Army, te think agin.
By:
akabula
When: 30 Jan 16 14:06
Wallflower  • January 30, 2016 12:11 PM GMT 
Related to this - you would think Northern Ireland would change their anthem. If England did so - as they should, they are playing as England not Britain - you would think NI would come under pressure to do so.  The Irish Rugby team changed theirs - which I thought was quite decent of them to do so. Since its a dual citizenship "state" its weird to have the anthem only reflect one of the nationalities?


I thought the Rugby team kept the old anthem but also play Irelands Call. I'm sure I heard both last time I watched the rugby.
Would be a good idea if for the sport both adopted Irelands call which must surely appeal to everyone.
By:
FredRescue
When: 30 Jan 16 20:04
Northern Ireland will be the only country playing the God Save the Queen anthem in Euro 2016 Cool
By:
Just Checking
When: 30 Jan 16 21:57
Pretty stupid to name your national anthem after a town on the other side of the world.

Why not "New York New York"?
By:
DStyle
When: 30 Jan 16 22:29
i detest Jerusalem. Blake's poem is just about acceptable (despite the answer to the question being a resounding no, he did not), but Parry's score sucks balls.

we should also remember that its invention came about as a clarion call for men to go and sacrifice themselves on the western front during world war 1. It has a blind, public school, tub-thumping patriotic stupidity to it which makes my skin crawl.

It's even worse than ruddy faced white middle class men singing negro spirituals at the rugby.
By:
DStyle
When: 30 Jan 16 22:35
if we are going to change it, might i suggest reworking the words of god save the queen to the tunes of either the russian or sri lankan national anthems who are the runaway winners.

failing that we could all just whistle the theme from the great escape.
By:
Charlie
When: 30 Jan 16 22:43
Rule Britannia.
By:
AFTERTHOUGHT
When: 31 Jan 16 02:04
Anything from Monty Python, Medical Love song has a catchy beat and of course lets not forget Always look on the bright side of life !
By:
dukeofpuke
When: 31 Jan 16 02:05
im a lumberjack and im ok
By:
AFTERTHOUGHT
When: 31 Jan 16 02:11
Dress up in womens clothing and hang around in bars,

I wish I was a girlie just like my dear Papa,

It's catchy ain't it. I'm sure it would grow on the Queen.
By:
Foinavon
When: 31 Jan 16 20:29
Considering the state of our roads, "I Like Trucking" might be appropriate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZbQ3lTObas

Not keen on "Jerusalem". If we must have a hymn then "I Vow to Thee My Country" is sung to a wonderful piece of music by Gustav Holst.
By:
annie.
When: 31 Jan 16 23:21
I find it very stirring to sing 'land of hope and glory', 'I vow to thee my country' and 'Jerusalem', but the words are either religious or monarchist or both.  Don't get me wrong I think the queen does a very good job - but I would never kneel to her.  And i think religion is a pile of poo.

We need an anthem just about england, nothing else.
By:
Capt__F
When: 31 Jan 16 23:24
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By:
Grim Reaper
When: 01 Feb 16 20:02
Back Home

Back home, they'll be thinking about us
When we are far away
Back home, they'll be really behind us
In every game we play
We will still hear them roaring
And we'll give all we've got to give
For the folks back home

Back home, they'll be watching and waiting
And cheering every move
Back home, though they think we're the greatest
That's what we've got to prove
Once more we will meet with the best
Like before we'll be put to the test
Oh we will give all we've got to give
For the folks back home

They'll see as they're watching and praying
That we put our hearts in our playing
We'll fight until the whistle goes
For the folks back home

Rousing Tune If Ever!!!
By:
Alices
When: 01 Feb 16 21:39
While I don't think there is anything wrong with LOHAG, I would suggest Land of Saint George by Citizen Steve, can't do links but it's on youtube
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