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The Leopard
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The murder of ex-Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko in 2006 was "probably" approved by President Vladimir Putin, a public inquiry has concluded.

Mr Litvinenko died aged 43 in London days after being poisoned with radioactive polonium-210, which he is believed to have drunk in a cup of tea.

Chairman Sir Robert Owen said it was likely Mr Putin signed off the killing following a long-running feud.
Mr Litvinenko's widow Marina said she was "very pleased" with the report.

Speaking outside London's High Court, she said: "The words my husband spoke on his deathbed when he accused Mr Putin have been proved by an English court."

Mrs Litvinenko called on the UK to expel all Russian intelligence operatives, to impose economic sanctions, and for travel bans on individuals, including Mr Putin.

Home Secretary Theresa May is due to give the UK government's response to the findings in a statement to the House of Commons later.

Two Russian men, Andrei Lugovoi and Dmitry Kovtun, have been accused of his murder. They deny killing him.
Sir Robert said the two suspects were probably acting under the direction of Moscow's FSB intelligence service.

Singling out then-FSB chief Nikolai Patrushev, alongside Mr Putin, Sir Robert wrote in the 300 page report: "Taking full account of all the evidence and analysis available to me I find that the FSB operation to kill Litvinenko was probably approved by Mr Patrushev and also by President Putin."

Mr Lugovoi, responding to the report, said the accusations against him were "absurd", the Reuters news agency reported.

Motives for action
Publishing his long-awaited report, Sir Robert said he was "sure" Mr Litvinenko's murder had been carried out by Mr Lugovoy and Mr Kovtun.

Both are wanted in the UK for questioning, but Russia has refused to extradite them.

Sir Robert said Mr Litvinenko's work for British intelligence agencies, his criticism of the FSB and Mr Putin, and his association with other Russian dissidents were possible motives for his killing.

"I am satisfied that in general terms, members of the Putin administration, including the president himself and the FSB, had motives for taking action against Litvinenko, including killing him, in late 2006," Sir Robert wrote.

The use of polonium 210 was "at the very least a strong indicator of state involvement" as it had to be made in a nuclear reactor, the report said.
The inquiry heard evidence that Mr Litvinenko may have been consigned to a slow death from radiation to "send a message".
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Report The Leopard • January 21, 2016 10:47 AM GMT
BBC now - Bill Browder
Report The Leopard • January 21, 2016 11:10 AM GMT
Live now - BBC
Report xmoneyx • January 21, 2016 11:14 AM GMT
linford Christie blamed tea for his positive result Olympics
Report The Leopard • January 21, 2016 11:24 AM GMT
Litvenenko's son must be a bit worried

Wouldn't put it past Putin to try to arrange a car accident.

Must have a team of MI6 officers guarding him and his mother round the clock.
Report alun2005 • January 21, 2016 11:31 AM GMT
Will Putin now effectively be a 'wanted' man, and will Britain be seeking his extradition, with Putin presumably having to sign himself over for extradition?

Or does Britain simply arrest him at the port of entry next time he arrives on these shores, or put out a European Arrest Warrant for him next time he is on EU territory?

I expect the same 'progressives' who want Tony Blair arrested for Pretendy War Crimes will also be calling for Putin's head, right?

Really looking forward to seeing how all this works.
Report xmoneyx • January 21, 2016 11:33 AM GMT
assassination swap Putin for Blair
Report The Leopard • January 21, 2016 11:43 AM GMT
Theresa May making statement now, sounds serious because Litvenenko was an MI6 employee at time of death

We don't need Russia.....they are 95%  bombing our allies in Syria (Rebels)

Putin will be killed by his own KGB / FSB within 6 months

That's why he always looks nervous.
Report The Leopard • January 21, 2016 11:47 AM GMT
Time to take Chelsea off Abramovic.....he is only a front for FSB !
Report brendanuk1 • January 21, 2016 11:51 AM GMT
walofs sh!t this hype is, he was ex KGB employed by MI6, photos of him on telly make him look like a puppy dog.

UK has not done extrajudicial killings? my arse
Report The Leopard • January 21, 2016 11:57 AM GMT
We are the good guys though.....we only kill evil sc*m for the greater good !
Report dustybin • January 21, 2016 12:54 PM GMT
Laugh
There are no 'good guys'
Report dustybin • January 21, 2016 12:55 PM GMT
This goes nowhere, just loads of frowns and paper shuffling
Report The Leopard • January 21, 2016 12:58 PM GMT
We are the good guys....you may not be....you unsure?
Report dustybin • January 21, 2016 1:02 PM GMT
Im sure I have no allegiances
Report The Leopard • January 21, 2016 1:04 PM GMT
Ah....but are you on the side of the "Good"?

This is a big shift change......many FSB  will be kicked out, visas restricted of top Russians

Russians killed Gareth Williams (body in bag) also.
Report alun2005 • January 21, 2016 1:05 PM GMT
Would it maybe help if Corbyn wrote Putin a pretty stiff letter about it all?
Report dustybin • January 21, 2016 1:07 PM GMT
good?
define good.
Its all protectionism of one sort or another
Im a world citizen that just happened to be born on a piece of land that a few people had already decided the constitution on.
Report sidthekid • January 21, 2016 1:17 PM GMT
Read these Books;
Ambush at Tully West
Blowing up Russia
All Governments collude to Kill innocent victims.
Report The Leopard • January 21, 2016 1:22 PM GMT
Why would UK kill innocents....there is no point.
Report The Leopard • January 21, 2016 1:23 PM GMT
Example?
Report sidthekid • January 21, 2016 1:26 PM GMT
Ambush at Tully West
The British Security Services in Eire/Ireland,
Maybe before your time.
Report The Leopard • January 21, 2016 1:27 PM GMT
At least Corbyn is squeaky clean atm.....otherwise it would be all over the Daily Mail.
Report sidthekid • January 21, 2016 1:30 PM GMT
The title of the book comes from the shooting on January 26th, 1974 of William Black in his weekend cottage at Tully West, Co. Down by a special unit of British army intelligence.
The story of the shooting began 198 months earlier on August 18th, 1972.
On that night, William Black, a member of the Ulster Defence Regiment which is a local part-time volunteer regiment of the British army, saw from his bedroom window three men stealing vehicles in his street.
He challenged them and captured one of them.
On arriving at the police station he found that the three men were members of the British army.
He had disturbed an undercover squad in the process of stealing three cars - the number needed for setting a car bomb
.
He indignantly objected to his neighbours' cars being robbed.
His wife told the neighbours who had been responsible for the attempted thefts.
Report brendanuk1 • January 21, 2016 1:34 PM GMT
add all these drone strikes on targeted victims. UK uses drones, Russia is more old school spy network cloak & dagger.

Famously USA has had numerous attempts on Castro
Report HH Sultan Vinegar • January 21, 2016 2:02 PM GMT
spot on with both your posts brendan ...
Report The Leopard • January 21, 2016 2:24 PM GMT
Sid, wouldn't  it all have been a lot better if Eire had accepted being part of UK?

Now you're just letting EU boss you about.
Report The Leopard • January 21, 2016 2:26 PM GMT
Drones are used to accurately target terrorists.
Report mememe • January 21, 2016 2:37 PM GMT
and the occasional wedding and hospital
Report dustybin • January 21, 2016 3:01 PM GMT
or is that the other way around?
Report Rockinron • January 21, 2016 3:11 PM GMT
"We are the good guys though.....we only kill evil sc*m for the greater good"
Tell that to ..
In 2003 Dr David Kelly was found dead in the woods. Caught in a political vortex, Dr Kelly had been forced to appear before a televised government committee investigating whether he had accused British government figures of planting in a dossier the questionable claim that WMDs could be unleashed from Iraq in 45 minutes. The Hutton Inquiry concluded that Dr Kelly took his own life. But did he? The KELLY INVESTIGATION GROUP takes a closer look….
Report PatraTheCat • January 21, 2016 3:23 PM GMT
Cracking story, this. All it would have taken is for Litvinenko to have emerged from a coma in the middle of the night with mutant superpowers and it would have been perfect.
Report Dr Crippen • January 21, 2016 3:45 PM GMT
Probably?

What good is that, who was ever convicted in a court on probably evidence?

If haven't got any hard evidence then they should shut up and stop accusing.

Here's some more probably - the British government poisoned him and made it look like the Russians did it to stir it up.
That's just as likely a probably as they've got.
Report Dr Crippen • January 21, 2016 3:47 PM GMT
I wouldn't believe anything that any side claimed - the UK government or the Russians.
Report Ibrahima Sonko • January 21, 2016 3:48 PM GMT
Nor I, just political rubbish, when has probably been a legal term ?
Report Shrewd_dude • January 21, 2016 3:54 PM GMT
It's an inquiry not a court. Cearly means on the balance of probabilities. More likely than not.
Report Ibrahima Sonko • January 21, 2016 3:55 PM GMT
or in this case suits their agenda.
Report Dr Crippen • January 21, 2016 3:58 PM GMT
Probably means nothing in a court of law or outside of a court.

Inadmissible as evidence - little more than a guess.
Report Shrewd_dude • January 21, 2016 4:00 PM GMT
No it means it's probable. What would you expect them to say at the end of an inquiry?
Report Dr Crippen • January 21, 2016 4:02 PM GMT
Here's an example of probably, or more likely than not.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10409326/Man-accused-of-being-paedophile-and-murdered-for-photographing-garden-vandals.html
Report Dr Crippen • January 21, 2016 4:03 PM GMT
What would you expect them to say at the end of an inquiry?

I'd expect them to tell the truth.

If they haven't got any hard evidence then admit that they don't know.
Report PatraTheCat • January 21, 2016 4:05 PM GMT
I suppose it's not too late for him to burst out of his grave with mutant superpowers. I live in hope.
Report Shrewd_dude • January 21, 2016 4:08 PM GMT
But why would they say that when they have concluded on the balance of probabilities their conclusion is he was involved? That the most an inquiry can do. It's meaningless in terms of any guilt as it's not a trial but it's naive to think that the conclusion of a inquiry is like a trial.
Report Injera • January 21, 2016 4:09 PM GMT
Tony Blair 'probably' approved the killing of thousands of innoncents in the pursuit of the non existent WMD, or put another way..his 'legacy'.
Report Ibrahima Sonko • January 21, 2016 4:14 PM GMT
Dont the reactions to this inquiry tell you something about the words used in the findings are incorrect, calling for sanctions & expelling of Russian diplomats.

You cannot use the word probably if you have no proof.
Report Injera • January 21, 2016 4:20 PM GMT
The hierachy at the BBC 'probably' approved the cover ups and denials surrounding the now infamous serial sex offender Jimmy Savile.
Report lfc1971 • January 21, 2016 4:30 PM GMT
They didn`t say it was probable that Litvinenko was murdered. The inquiry said that they were sure that it was the Russians who killed him and have the evidence to prove it.
Report lfc1971 • January 21, 2016 4:34 PM GMT
There is a very good chance that they have video evidence.
Report lfc1971 • January 21, 2016 4:36 PM GMT
You can not into any hotel in Mayfair without being on camera. The evidence is conclusive. But they need to get the extradition of the 2 suspects to bring it to court.
Report sidthekid • January 21, 2016 4:49 PM GMT
And Russia does Not Extradite its Citizens to Foreign Powers.
Report lfc1971 • January 21, 2016 4:57 PM GMT
If Russia does not extradite its citizens to Britain then it is clearly a danger allowing any Russian foreign national into Britain.
Report lfc1971 • January 21, 2016 5:02 PM GMT
A 15 year ban on all Russian citizens coming to Britain would be a starting point.
Report dustybin • January 21, 2016 5:09 PM GMT
Laugh
including russian oligarchs too?
fat chance
Report lfc1971 • January 21, 2016 5:10 PM GMT
especially the oligarchs.
Report lfc1971 • January 21, 2016 5:11 PM GMT
don`t worry, Britain will survive.
Report dustybin • January 21, 2016 5:16 PM GMT
survive?
They thrive off having the money spent over here, they wouldnt want that to end
Report lfc1971 • January 21, 2016 5:19 PM GMT
This is Britain, we do not run our foreign policy dependent on a skew eyed peasant from Siberia.
Report lfc1971 • January 21, 2016 5:22 PM GMT
Give them the offer of British citizenship or send them back.
Report dustybin • January 21, 2016 5:25 PM GMT
We soon see how much Britain values virtue when we just look at the figures.
The Balance of payments deficit is '4.2pc of GDP, the second highest annual figure since WWII and the biggest deficit of any major industrialised economy in the world.'

ONS
Report lfc1971 • January 21, 2016 5:29 PM GMT
I hope you are not blaming that on the oligarchs as well, or would it be worse without them?
Report dustybin • January 21, 2016 5:37 PM GMT
It would be significantly worse without.
Those russian criminals spending money from ill gotten gains over here make the balance of payments balls up almost look respectable.
Report dustybin • January 21, 2016 5:38 PM GMT
you'll be giving gideon palpitations with those suggestions
Report lfc1971 • January 21, 2016 5:39 PM GMT
Now Putin won`t extradite them because if found guilty this will lead directly back to him....this is why it is wrong to say there is no evidence.
Report Dr Crippen • January 21, 2016 5:42 PM GMT
What the idea behind us keep falling out with Russia?

How come one dead Russian is such a big deal?

They're talking about 1 million dead in Iraq, and we're taking the Russians to task over one dead man.
Report dustybin • January 21, 2016 5:49 PM GMT
still bitter about the world cup that had dangerous dave, the future king and becks taking time out to secure it for london.
And got royally snubbed....(even after handing out cough cough, 'gifts' to cough make life a little, cough, easier for the decision makers)
Report lfc1971 • January 21, 2016 9:41 PM GMT
Dr Crippen I fail to see what Britain can do about Iraq if they insist on killing themselves.
Report sidthekid • January 21, 2016 9:58 PM GMT
25th FEB 2014
More than 850 Russian oligarchs and Chinese millionaires have won the right to live in Britain in the last five years under a scheme which has little benefit for British citizens, official government advisers have disclosed.
Professor Sir David Metcalf, chairman of the Home Office’s Migration Advisory Committee (MAC), said the government had effectively been “giving away” visas to some of the world’s wealthiest people.
A report by the committee revealed 433 Russian millionaires have come to this country since 2008 under an “investor” visa scheme which allows successful applicants to live in Britain in return for a minimum £1 million investment in government gilts - effectively a loan - but does not grant them a UK passport.
Another 419 super-wealthy Chinese used the scheme.
The third largest group was US citizens, who made just 96 applications over the five years.
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December 2014
A growing number of multimillionaire Russians are using "investor" visas to fast track their residency and become a British citizen in just six years.
The total of 162  fast-track visas were issued to Russians between January and September this year - up from 96 in the same period last year.
Figures show there was a hike in visa applications after March - when the first round of sanctions were imposed on Russia.
The Russian investors have to invest a minimum of £2million in to the country in order to secure these visas, which are approved in less than 24 hours in some cases.
After five years, they can apply for a permanent residency permit and citizenship on year later.
However individuals taking advantage of the scheme and wish to permanently settle in the UK within just three years can stake a minimum of £5 million or more.
This drops to two years if they invest £10 million.
The number of fast-track visas issued to Russians in 2014 was 69 per cent higher than in the same period the year before.
According to Kamal Rahman, a lawyer at Mishcon De Reya - which handles the applications - said around half of the Russians taking advantage of this scheme usually stake more than £5 Million.
Report treetop • January 21, 2016 10:07 PM GMT
Dangerous terminology that could lead to an escalation and possible confrontation with Russia,are they barmy ? Every one with a grievance will be coming to UK expecting our courts to support them and for us to send a gunboat to get them justice ? I just cant wait for the first claims company to sue the british government for not getting their client's justice.
Report HH Sultan Vinegar • January 22, 2016 1:17 PM GMT
Nothing to do with this story but a story about a Russian olligarch. A friend of mine was invited on a super yatch by this Russian he's pretty pally with at a boat show in Monaco last summer. He took a girl from his company on with him. Anyway the girl became the object of one of the Russians desires, but it soon crossed the line of harassment and the girl, a bit of a feisty Londoner gave her admirer a loud rebuke. The main man, the 'olligarch' suddenly lost his temper at what he said was ill treatment of his guests, so walked over to this bloke shouted in his face, smacked him in the head a few times, and then lifted him over the rails off the boat where the victim duly went flying into the sea. This mate of mine said it was pure theatre and like something out of a film. Anyway the guy didn't risk coming back onto the boat and apparently a good evening was had by all. Laugh
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