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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35370819

The murder of ex-Russian spy Alexander Litvinenko in 2006 was "probably" approved by President Vladimir Putin, a public inquiry has concluded.

Mr Litvinenko died aged 43 in London days after being poisoned with radioactive polonium-210, which he is believed to have drunk in a cup of tea.

Chairman Sir Robert Owen said it was likely Mr Putin signed off the killing following a long-running feud.
Mr Litvinenko's widow Marina said she was "very pleased" with the report.

Speaking outside London's High Court, she said: "The words my husband spoke on his deathbed when he accused Mr Putin have been proved by an English court."

Mrs Litvinenko called on the UK to expel all Russian intelligence operatives, to impose economic sanctions, and for travel bans on individuals, including Mr Putin.

Home Secretary Theresa May is due to give the UK government's response to the findings in a statement to the House of Commons later.

Two Russian men, Andrei Lugovoi and Dmitry Kovtun, have been accused of his murder. They deny killing him.
Sir Robert said the two suspects were probably acting under the direction of Moscow's FSB intelligence service.

Singling out then-FSB chief Nikolai Patrushev, alongside Mr Putin, Sir Robert wrote in the 300 page report: "Taking full account of all the evidence and analysis available to me I find that the FSB operation to kill Litvinenko was probably approved by Mr Patrushev and also by President Putin."

Mr Lugovoi, responding to the report, said the accusations against him were "absurd", the Reuters news agency reported.

Motives for action
Publishing his long-awaited report, Sir Robert said he was "sure" Mr Litvinenko's murder had been carried out by Mr Lugovoy and Mr Kovtun.

Both are wanted in the UK for questioning, but Russia has refused to extradite them.

Sir Robert said Mr Litvinenko's work for British intelligence agencies, his criticism of the FSB and Mr Putin, and his association with other Russian dissidents were possible motives for his killing.

"I am satisfied that in general terms, members of the Putin administration, including the president himself and the FSB, had motives for taking action against Litvinenko, including killing him, in late 2006," Sir Robert wrote.

The use of polonium 210 was "at the very least a strong indicator of state involvement" as it had to be made in a nuclear reactor, the report said.
The inquiry heard evidence that Mr Litvinenko may have been consigned to a slow death from radiation to "send a message".

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By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Jan 16 10:47
BBC now - Bill Browder
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Jan 16 11:10
Live now - BBC
By:
xmoneyx
When: 21 Jan 16 11:14
linford Christie blamed tea for his positive result Olympics
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Jan 16 11:24
Litvenenko's son must be a bit worried

Wouldn't put it past Putin to try to arrange a car accident.

Must have a team of MI6 officers guarding him and his mother round the clock.
By:
alun2005
When: 21 Jan 16 11:31
Will Putin now effectively be a 'wanted' man, and will Britain be seeking his extradition, with Putin presumably having to sign himself over for extradition?

Or does Britain simply arrest him at the port of entry next time he arrives on these shores, or put out a European Arrest Warrant for him next time he is on EU territory?

I expect the same 'progressives' who want Tony Blair arrested for Pretendy War Crimes will also be calling for Putin's head, right?

Really looking forward to seeing how all this works.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 21 Jan 16 11:33
assassination swap Putin for Blair
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Jan 16 11:43
Theresa May making statement now, sounds serious because Litvenenko was an MI6 employee at time of death

We don't need Russia.....they are 95%  bombing our allies in Syria (Rebels)

Putin will be killed by his own KGB / FSB within 6 months

That's why he always looks nervous.
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Jan 16 11:47
Time to take Chelsea off Abramovic.....he is only a front for FSB !
By:
brendanuk1
When: 21 Jan 16 11:51
walofs sh!t this hype is, he was ex KGB employed by MI6, photos of him on telly make him look like a puppy dog.

UK has not done extrajudicial killings? my arse
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Jan 16 11:57
We are the good guys though.....we only kill evil sc*m for the greater good !
By:
dustybin
When: 21 Jan 16 12:54
Laugh
There are no 'good guys'
By:
dustybin
When: 21 Jan 16 12:55
This goes nowhere, just loads of frowns and paper shuffling
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Jan 16 12:58
We are the good guys....you may not be....you unsure?
By:
dustybin
When: 21 Jan 16 13:02
Im sure I have no allegiances
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Jan 16 13:04
Ah....but are you on the side of the "Good"?

This is a big shift change......many FSB  will be kicked out, visas restricted of top Russians

Russians killed Gareth Williams (body in bag) also.
By:
alun2005
When: 21 Jan 16 13:05
Would it maybe help if Corbyn wrote Putin a pretty stiff letter about it all?
By:
dustybin
When: 21 Jan 16 13:07
good?
define good.
Its all protectionism of one sort or another
Im a world citizen that just happened to be born on a piece of land that a few people had already decided the constitution on.
By:
sidthekid
When: 21 Jan 16 13:17
Read these Books;
Ambush at Tully West
Blowing up Russia
All Governments collude to Kill innocent victims.
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Jan 16 13:22
Why would UK kill innocents....there is no point.
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Jan 16 13:23
Example?
By:
sidthekid
When: 21 Jan 16 13:26
Ambush at Tully West
The British Security Services in Eire/Ireland,
Maybe before your time.
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Jan 16 13:27
At least Corbyn is squeaky clean atm.....otherwise it would be all over the Daily Mail.
By:
sidthekid
When: 21 Jan 16 13:30
The title of the book comes from the shooting on January 26th, 1974 of William Black in his weekend cottage at Tully West, Co. Down by a special unit of British army intelligence.
The story of the shooting began 198 months earlier on August 18th, 1972.
On that night, William Black, a member of the Ulster Defence Regiment which is a local part-time volunteer regiment of the British army, saw from his bedroom window three men stealing vehicles in his street.
He challenged them and captured one of them.
On arriving at the police station he found that the three men were members of the British army.
He had disturbed an undercover squad in the process of stealing three cars - the number needed for setting a car bomb
.
He indignantly objected to his neighbours' cars being robbed.
His wife told the neighbours who had been responsible for the attempted thefts.
By:
brendanuk1
When: 21 Jan 16 13:34
add all these drone strikes on targeted victims. UK uses drones, Russia is more old school spy network cloak & dagger.

Famously USA has had numerous attempts on Castro
By:
HH Sultan Vinegar
When: 21 Jan 16 14:02
spot on with both your posts brendan ...
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Jan 16 14:24
Sid, wouldn't  it all have been a lot better if Eire had accepted being part of UK?

Now you're just letting EU boss you about.
By:
The Leopard
When: 21 Jan 16 14:26
Drones are used to accurately target terrorists.
By:
mememe
When: 21 Jan 16 14:37
and the occasional wedding and hospital
By:
dustybin
When: 21 Jan 16 15:01
or is that the other way around?
By:
Rockinron
When: 21 Jan 16 15:11
"We are the good guys though.....we only kill evil sc*m for the greater good"
Tell that to ..
In 2003 Dr David Kelly was found dead in the woods. Caught in a political vortex, Dr Kelly had been forced to appear before a televised government committee investigating whether he had accused British government figures of planting in a dossier the questionable claim that WMDs could be unleashed from Iraq in 45 minutes. The Hutton Inquiry concluded that Dr Kelly took his own life. But did he? The KELLY INVESTIGATION GROUP takes a closer look….
By:
PatraTheCat
When: 21 Jan 16 15:23
Cracking story, this. All it would have taken is for Litvinenko to have emerged from a coma in the middle of the night with mutant superpowers and it would have been perfect.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 21 Jan 16 15:45
Probably?

What good is that, who was ever convicted in a court on probably evidence?

If haven't got any hard evidence then they should shut up and stop accusing.

Here's some more probably - the British government poisoned him and made it look like the Russians did it to stir it up.
That's just as likely a probably as they've got.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 21 Jan 16 15:47
I wouldn't believe anything that any side claimed - the UK government or the Russians.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 21 Jan 16 15:48
Nor I, just political rubbish, when has probably been a legal term ?
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 21 Jan 16 15:54
It's an inquiry not a court. Cearly means on the balance of probabilities. More likely than not.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 21 Jan 16 15:55
or in this case suits their agenda.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 21 Jan 16 15:58
Probably means nothing in a court of law or outside of a court.

Inadmissible as evidence - little more than a guess.
By:
Shrewd_dude
When: 21 Jan 16 16:00
No it means it's probable. What would you expect them to say at the end of an inquiry?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 21 Jan 16 16:02
Here's an example of probably, or more likely than not.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10409326/Man-accused-of-being-paedophile-and-murdered-for-photographing-garden-vandals.html
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