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VIP paedophile inquiry being killed off, claims Harvey Proctor
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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jan/18/vip-paedophile-inquiry-being-killed-off-claims-harvey-proctor
A former Conservative MP who is under investigation for child murder has accused the Metropolitan police of attempting to kill off the Westminster paedophile inquiry to protect the careers of senior officers.
Harvey Proctor made the claim after the Met’s Operation Midland – which is investigating claims that establishment figures murdered and raped boys – dropped claims of child abuse against the war hero Lord Bramall.
Steve Rodhouse, deputy chief constable of the Met, who is in charge of Operation Midland, has written to Proctor’s solicitors to say that detectives are assessing new information which could be relevant to their inquiry.
The former MP for Billericay, who denies the claims against him, said Rodhouse’s latest claim was part of a plan to kill off Operation Midland by degrees.
“This is all part of the media management of the Met as they plan how to wave the white flag over this inquiry in a way that does senior officers the least amount of damage,” he said.
The Met has faced calls to apologise to Bramall, the 92-year-old veteran of the D-Day landings, after it announced on Friday there was “insufficient evidence” to proceed against him over allegations of historical child sex abuse.
Proctor disclosed in August that Operation Midland was investigating claims that he was part of a child abuse ring along with the late prime minister Edward Heath, the late home secretary Leon Brittan and former heads of MI5 and MI6.
Bramall and Proctor have called for the single complainant responsible for the inquiry, known only as “Nick”, to be investigated for wasting police time.
Nick claimed that Proctor stabbed one boy to death, assaulted another and helped organise the death of a third boy who was subsequently run over by a car. He said he was raped and indecently assaulted by Bramall between 1976 and 1984 at a military base in the West Country.
Rodhouse’s email to Proctor’s solicitors was sent within an hour of the Met’s announcement that Bramall would no longer be prosecuted.
After stating that “a 92-year-old from Hampshire” would not be further investigated as part of Operation Midland, Rodhouse wrote that officers had not yet asked prosecutors to consider the case against Proctor.
“Investigating officers are continuing to carry out inquiries in respect to Mr Proctor. They are not yet in a position to apply the ‘full code test’ in respect to the allegations made against him,” he wrote.
“Since Mr Proctor was interviewed on 24 August, additional information has been received by the MPS. Officers are currently carrying out inquiries to understand the significance of the further information. This will be done as expeditiously as possible.”
Nick’s claims were initially described by Scotland Yard as “credible and true”. The Met has since withdrawn the word “true”.
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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jan/18/vip-paedophile-inquiry-being-killed-off-claims-harvey-proctor
A former Conservative MP who is under investigation for child murder has accused the Metropolitan police of attempting to kill off the Westminster paedophile inquiry to protect the careers of senior officers.
Harvey Proctor made the claim after the Met’s Operation Midland – which is investigating claims that establishment figures murdered and raped boys – dropped claims of child abuse against the war hero Lord Bramall.
Steve Rodhouse, deputy chief constable of the Met, who is in charge of Operation Midland, has written to Proctor’s solicitors to say that detectives are assessing new information which could be relevant to their inquiry.
The former MP for Billericay, who denies the claims against him, said Rodhouse’s latest claim was part of a plan to kill off Operation Midland by degrees.
“This is all part of the media management of the Met as they plan how to wave the white flag over this inquiry in a way that does senior officers the least amount of damage,” he said.
The Met has faced calls to apologise to Bramall, the 92-year-old veteran of the D-Day landings, after it announced on Friday there was “insufficient evidence” to proceed against him over allegations of historical child sex abuse.
Proctor disclosed in August that Operation Midland was investigating claims that he was part of a child abuse ring along with the late prime minister Edward Heath, the late home secretary Leon Brittan and former heads of MI5 and MI6.
Bramall and Proctor have called for the single complainant responsible for the inquiry, known only as “Nick”, to be investigated for wasting police time.
Nick claimed that Proctor stabbed one boy to death, assaulted another and helped organise the death of a third boy who was subsequently run over by a car. He said he was raped and indecently assaulted by Bramall between 1976 and 1984 at a military base in the West Country.
Rodhouse’s email to Proctor’s solicitors was sent within an hour of the Met’s announcement that Bramall would no longer be prosecuted.
After stating that “a 92-year-old from Hampshire” would not be further investigated as part of Operation Midland, Rodhouse wrote that officers had not yet asked prosecutors to consider the case against Proctor.
“Investigating officers are continuing to carry out inquiries in respect to Mr Proctor. They are not yet in a position to apply the ‘full code test’ in respect to the allegations made against him,” he wrote.
“Since Mr Proctor was interviewed on 24 August, additional information has been received by the MPS. Officers are currently carrying out inquiries to understand the significance of the further information. This will be done as expeditiously as possible.”
Nick’s claims were initially described by Scotland Yard as “credible and true”. The Met has since withdrawn the word “true”.
surely no one believes that when the establishment investigates the establishment the truth will out? expect the government enquiry to find nothing of note. given the severity of the allegations its dreadful.
He's asking why they pursued Bramall with such vigour on scant evidence.
While Janner got away with so much when the evidence was overwhelming?
It's pretty clear that the powers that were protecting Janner were not protecting Bramall.
While Janner got away with so much when the evidence was overwhelming?
It's pretty clear that the powers that were protecting Janner were not protecting Bramall.
One caller suggested that a lie detector test should be used to screen people in the first instance who make accusations of rape and abuse.
O'Brien dismissed this immediately.
Yet it's far better guide to whether or not to proceed with a case, rather than a police officer's best guess that an accuser is telling the truth or making it up.
Once the investigation is in place of course the lie detector evidence is discarded.
O'Brien dismissed this immediately.
Yet it's far better guide to whether or not to proceed with a case, rather than a police officer's best guess that an accuser is telling the truth or making it up.
Once the investigation is in place of course the lie detector evidence is discarded.
Had a phonecall, missed 15 mins......if Nick is telling the truth then he must be in danger of assasination, is he adequately protected?
Read this last night : (related subject)
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https://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2016/01/03/mysterious-deaths-at-the-bbc-2/
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https://thecolemanexperience.wordpress.com/2016/01/03/mysterious-deaths-at-the-bbc-2/
Why would anyone be afraid of an accuser taking a lie detector test in the first instance?
It would remove the vast majority of the wild goose chases conducted by the police, and centre their activity in areas which are positively alive with potential prosecutions.
Why would anyone be in favour of the present situation that doesn't use lie detectors, and increases the chances of getting away with the crime?
People in high places and presenters again looking after their own interests perhaps?
It would remove the vast majority of the wild goose chases conducted by the police, and centre their activity in areas which are positively alive with potential prosecutions.
Why would anyone be in favour of the present situation that doesn't use lie detectors, and increases the chances of getting away with the crime?
People in high places and presenters again looking after their own interests perhaps?
Most accusations are true....only a small % false imo
I think Nick is telling the truth.
Why would he give himself all this agro if false?
He is not the only accuser.
I think Nick is telling the truth.
Why would he give himself all this agro if false?
He is not the only accuser.
From @The Leopard's second post -- Nick claimed that Proctor stabbed one boy to death, assaulted another and helped organise the death of a third boy who was subsequently run over by a car. He said he was raped and indecently assaulted by Bramall between 1976 and 1984 at a military base in the West Country.
The MoD would have had records of movements in and out of military bases. If they are kept this long (which I doubt) then it should be possible to establish if and when Bramall was there.
As for the two murdered boys, there should be local newspaper, hospital and coroners' records of their deaths. Even if all these were covered up, there should at least be birth certificates for the victims.
The MoD would have had records of movements in and out of military bases. If they are kept this long (which I doubt) then it should be possible to establish if and when Bramall was there.
As for the two murdered boys, there should be local newspaper, hospital and coroners' records of their deaths. Even if all these were covered up, there should at least be birth certificates for the victims.
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