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Pokermonster
13 Dec 15 17:31
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Good afternoon, gentlemen.

I've dreamt up many a variation on the standard pool games over the years, the example pictured below was a bit of a rush job this afternoon in order to be ready for a friend's birthday gift on Wednesday.  Any suggestions for improvement welcome.

Many thanks.


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Report Pokermonster December 13, 2015 5:33 PM GMT
You might need to press CTRL and + a few times to magnify the text.
Report s.kenbo December 13, 2015 5:40 PM GMT
I've gone between 175% and 300% and it's too blurred to read.
Report Pokermonster December 13, 2015 5:43 PM GMT
Ah, what a shame!  Many thanks for trying, though, sir.
Report lfc1971 December 13, 2015 5:56 PM GMT
Pokermonster its a nice looking game but what is the object of the 5 blues and if the first player fails to pot them in a row do the 5 balls return to the table ?
Report Pokermonster December 13, 2015 5:59 PM GMT
After pocketing all his own designated colours (reds or yellows) a player must then either sink all the remaining blues without missing (starting with ball in hand) or pass the challenge to his opponent.
Report Crisp77 December 13, 2015 5:59 PM GMT
I don't think the doubling up cube is required
Report Pokermonster December 13, 2015 6:02 PM GMT
The doubling cube (which we use in other gambling games) does spice things up by adding extra pressure.  It also helps to speed up the scoring in first-to-whatever races.
Report lfc1971 December 13, 2015 6:03 PM GMT
so a player may end up potting 4 blues and his opponent 1 and lose
Report Pokermonster December 13, 2015 6:04 PM GMT
The player automatically loses that particular frame as soon as he misses anything during the blue stage.
Report Pokermonster December 13, 2015 6:06 PM GMT
Only one player can play the blues: either the player who pocketed his own colours first, or his opponent if the first player passed on the challenge.
Report lfc1971 December 13, 2015 6:06 PM GMT
not sure I would be wanting to pot any balls under those circumstances.
Report boxingthefox December 13, 2015 6:06 PM GMT
Should have animal pics on the balls for the coloured blind, thank me later.


, ShockedLaugh
cue incoming
Report lfc1971 December 13, 2015 6:07 PM GMT
would a small change not be to allow the 5 blues to be brought back if one player misses
Report Pokermonster December 13, 2015 6:08 PM GMT
If a player considers that the blues present too daunting a challenge, it would be wise to pocket all their colours first and pass the challenge to his opponent.
Report Pokermonster December 13, 2015 6:10 PM GMT
LFC.

That could be an option, sir, but where would one position them?  Also, remember that most pool tables charge to extract the balls.  Sad
Report boxingthefox December 13, 2015 6:11 PM GMT
I charge noyhing to have mine extracted, OK, OK, i'll bugger off. Laugh
Report lfc1971 December 13, 2015 6:13 PM GMT
yes that's quite good.
Report Pokermonster December 13, 2015 6:13 PM GMT
As long as a player contacts his cololour first, any ball may legally be potted during the game in order to continue a visit.  This means, of course, one or more of the blues may have been pocketed before any player sinks all of his own colours.
Report lfc1971 December 13, 2015 6:15 PM GMT
sorry I meant the idea of challenging your opp. to go first is quite good
Report Pokermonster December 13, 2015 6:17 PM GMT
A great deal, of course, depends on the ability of the players involved.
Report lfc1971 December 13, 2015 6:18 PM GMT
Ilike the idea Happy
Report Pokermonster December 13, 2015 6:22 PM GMT
Many thanks for your suggestions so far, gentlemen.  I'll check back in again later.
Report lfc1971 December 13, 2015 6:23 PM GMT
A good player might for a bit of fun pot all his own colours and then say to his opponent ok lets see if you can pot the blues Happy....its interesting
Report Clouseau December 13, 2015 6:23 PM GMT
With the adverse publicity surrounding certain such Eastern Europeans I was half expecting the object of the game to be extracting as many of your opponents balls from the pockets as you can. Mischief
Report Pokermonster December 13, 2015 6:24 PM GMT
Exactly, LFC.  And if at any time his opponent faces a particularly tricky 50/50 shot, it might be a sage move to offer him the doubling cube to ramp up the pressure.
Report STUDYFORM December 13, 2015 7:29 PM GMT
2 questions from me PM - but no real additions I'm afraid.

1. Why 4 balls to hit the cushion at the break, rather than 3?
Is that not sometimes hard to spot?

2. Why not make the doubling cube only offerable before the players turn, a la backgammon?
Report Pokermonster December 14, 2015 12:41 AM GMT
Good morning, Study.  I hope you are well, sir.  I'll be having a pop at your excellent darts competition later in the week.

In answer to your questions:

1. The balls to cushion rule is largely redundant these days as everyone seems to leather the break, especially at the higher levels of play, but stipulating four has become standard to ensure a decent split.  As you say, it could be a problem if somebody decided to opt for a softer break but it very seldom occurs.

2. I did consider the backgammon option, of course, but liked the idea of using the cube to pressurise an opponent's shot.

Many thanks for your interest and suggestions, they're much appreciated.
Report bodil December 14, 2015 12:48 AM GMT
Hey Pm.  How are you?

Hang on - got to fight off some pink lizards.  Back soon - hopefully.
Report Pokermonster December 14, 2015 12:52 AM GMT
I'm in reasonable health, sir, thank you.  Hope you're in good form, too?  I pray that wasn't a euphemism for something beastly, by the way, as I'm eating a cheese and onion sandwich.
Report bodil December 14, 2015 12:56 AM GMT
No - not at all.  The lizards are dead - or twitching.  Just the monstrous spiders abound - I've beaten them before, I'll beat them now.

How did the book go, btw?
Report TheBetterBettor December 14, 2015 12:59 AM GMT
I always thought that if you pot a ball in snooker by doing a double of the cushion, that you should be awarded double the points........


....any thoughts on this.
Report Pokermonster December 14, 2015 12:59 AM GMT
The book is finished, sir.  Well, I still tinker with it a bit now and again, always thinking I can make an improvement here and there being cursed as a perfectionist.  I've naturally been too lazy to hawk it around any agents or publishers as yet.
Report Pokermonster December 14, 2015 1:01 AM GMT
That's a perfectly reasonable suggestion, TBB.  Personally, I wouldn't introduce it to the standard snooker rules, but a sound idea for a new game on the billiards table.
Report bodil December 14, 2015 1:07 AM GMT
You have to publish it.  Go for a sports-dedicated company.  Don't let the flame die with you.  Or you'll become like the rest of us.  Zombie-phantoms wandering among the wreckage and corpses, preying on the weak.  Are you weak Pm, are you?
Report curious-cat December 14, 2015 1:14 AM GMT
Hello bodil ...... I really think you should stop watching Dr Who even if it is from behind the sofa.

What happened to your cat loving friend ?
Report Pokermonster December 14, 2015 1:15 AM GMT
No, sir, I'm a warrior crushing everyone and everything in my path.
Report curious-cat December 14, 2015 1:17 AM GMT
...... hiding behind the Union flag ?
Report Pokermonster December 14, 2015 1:17 AM GMT
Right, that's it!  Some time next week, or perhaps after Christmas, I'll definitely think about doing something.

Good night, gentlemen, a pleasure to chat as always.
Report Pokermonster December 14, 2015 1:20 AM GMT
Nothing is ever as it first appears, CC.  That's not the union flag, for example.
Report Pokermonster December 14, 2015 1:22 AM GMT
Anyway, I really must go to bed.  Good night everyone.  Happy
Report Pokermonster December 14, 2015 1:22 AM GMT
Report bodil December 14, 2015 1:25 AM GMT
Sleep well my friends.
Report curious-cat December 14, 2015 1:29 AM GMT
what flag is it ?
Report TheBetterBettor June 28, 2016 10:31 PM BST
This from a guy who voted 'leave' Laugh
Report Pokermonster June 29, 2016 12:58 AM BST
Good morning, TBB.

Being in the dark regards your views on the referendum debate, the motive behind resurrecting this thread is unclear to me but I welcome the opportunity to expand upon your comment.

This from a guy who voted leave... who stated many times such a decision was not based on immigration or the economy, but rather a desire for the return of sovereignty and democracy.

This from a guy who voted leave... who is lucky enough to have many European friends, as evidenced by the birthday gift to one of them, Liviu, shown in the above screenshot.

This from a guy who voted leave... who has lived and worked in Amsterdam for several years, fully embracing the Dutch culture and European way of life.

This from a guy who voted leave... who has French as a second language and, for the most part, genuinely loves the country and its people.

The misconception that all of us who voted to leave the European Union are some kind of bigoted racists is every bit as flawed as accusing those that wish to remain as traitors.
Report TheBetterBettor June 29, 2016 9:15 AM BST
Cool it bro its only BANTS....

I wanted to suggest a rule change, saw your profile ident flag then saw your Romanian
pool idea. Just wanted to joke around about it.

Didn't vote cos I was in spain at the time.

-----

Anyway, whatabout putting pocket holes in the middle of the table?

...or would that make the game farcical.Crazy
Report TheBetterBettor June 29, 2016 9:15 AM BST
Cool it bro its only BANTS....

I wanted to suggest a rule change, saw your profile ident flag then saw your Romanian
pool idea. Just wanted to joke around about it.

Didn't vote cos I was in spain at the time.

-----

Anyway, whatabout putting pocket holes in the middle of the table?

...or would that make the game farcical.Crazy
Report Pokermonster June 29, 2016 9:38 AM BST
Good morning, TBB.

Funnily enough in the seventies, when pool tables first came to the country on a commercial basis, some of them actually did just have holes in the slate instead of traditional pockets.  And they were only a fraction wider than the balls!  In order to pot anything a player had to roll the colours up to holes at absolute dead weight and watch the rather pleasing effect as it shimmied its way down the chute.

With regard having a pocket in the centre of the table: it's a concept that I certainly would enjoy trying but, based on the many unusual table designs that have come and gone over the years, probably not an idea that would be commercially successful... but you never know!

Many thanks for your contribution, sir.
Report Rockinron June 29, 2016 10:22 AM BST
"I've invented a pool table game"
So there was I ...out on the pish one late afternoon frequenting a "Drinking Club" ..just off Oxford Street - the New Manhattan...not very busy in there and often frequented by "Ladies of the Night" .
Me and my mate (business associate) ...were playing Pool - then up walks a rather good looking tall lomg legged blonde - obviously the worse for drink ....squats astride on one of the end pockets and says "see if you can get one in here honey" ....Laugh
God ...I still have nightmares!
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