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German Migrants Hits 1 MILLION This Month, Four Times 2014 Rate
Germany has taken four times as many refugees this year as in 2014, and a state president has lashed out at the new head of the Federal Migration Office for working too slowly.
Some 964,574 refugees have come to Germany this year according to government figures cited by the Passauer Neue Presse, up from 238,676 in 2014. Half a million of those have actually made asylum applications. In the same period, the number of unprocessed asylum cases held by the migration office had increased from 169,166 to 355,914.
Senior figures in the national federal government, including Angela Merkel’s chief of staff Peter Altmaier, have been forced to defend the track record of the body responsible for immigration, and its new director from pointed criticism.
Social Democrat Party Minister-President of the Rhineland-Palatinate state Malu Dreyer has criticised new agency chief Frank-Jürgen Weise and his staff for not working seven day weeks in the light of the migrant crisis. Although the left-wing politician is no critic of mass migration, the delays in processing may restrict the access of migrants to state benefit, which may explain her concern.
Defending the record of the office and their new chief, government spin doctor Mr. Altmaier said without the hard work and efficiency of the body the backlog would be significantly larger, and with just a few weeks under his belt Mr. Weise hadn’t yet had chance to make much of a difference. Regardless, the head had made “an incredible amount of progress in that time”, he said.
In a now rare moment of unity with the national government and his party colleagues, Christian Social Union leader, Bavarian president, and critic of mass migration Horst Seehofer also moved to defend the body. He referred back to his earlier comments remarking that the Federal Migration Office was poorly equipped to deal with the coming migration crisis— leaving a barb in his remarks by pointing out funding and provision for the body was down to the federal government.
The personal stock of Mr. Seehofer has been rising this year at the expense of his boss and colleague Chancellor Merkel. The Chancellor’s own approval ratings have hit an all-time low on the back of the migrant crisis, which many see Mrs. Merkel as having played a significant part in causing.
Germany has taken four times as many refugees this year as in 2014, and a state president has lashed out at the new head of the Federal Migration Office for working too slowly.
Some 964,574 refugees have come to Germany this year according to government figures cited by the Passauer Neue Presse, up from 238,676 in 2014. Half a million of those have actually made asylum applications. In the same period, the number of unprocessed asylum cases held by the migration office had increased from 169,166 to 355,914.
Senior figures in the national federal government, including Angela Merkel’s chief of staff Peter Altmaier, have been forced to defend the track record of the body responsible for immigration, and its new director from pointed criticism.
Social Democrat Party Minister-President of the Rhineland-Palatinate state Malu Dreyer has criticised new agency chief Frank-Jürgen Weise and his staff for not working seven day weeks in the light of the migrant crisis. Although the left-wing politician is no critic of mass migration, the delays in processing may restrict the access of migrants to state benefit, which may explain her concern.
Defending the record of the office and their new chief, government spin doctor Mr. Altmaier said without the hard work and efficiency of the body the backlog would be significantly larger, and with just a few weeks under his belt Mr. Weise hadn’t yet had chance to make much of a difference. Regardless, the head had made “an incredible amount of progress in that time”, he said.
In a now rare moment of unity with the national government and his party colleagues, Christian Social Union leader, Bavarian president, and critic of mass migration Horst Seehofer also moved to defend the body. He referred back to his earlier comments remarking that the Federal Migration Office was poorly equipped to deal with the coming migration crisis— leaving a barb in his remarks by pointing out funding and provision for the body was down to the federal government.
The personal stock of Mr. Seehofer has been rising this year at the expense of his boss and colleague Chancellor Merkel. The Chancellor’s own approval ratings have hit an all-time low on the back of the migrant crisis, which many see Mrs. Merkel as having played a significant part in causing.
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Left Historian: ‘Christian Germany… Everything Dear To Us… Will Disappear Because Of Mass Migration’
Highly respected, former communist professor and historian Jörg Baberowski has warned that “every dear to [Germans]” will soon disappear because of his government’s policies towards mass migration.
The stark warning is sure to echo around Europe, the United Kingdom, and indeed the United States as policy makers throw open Western countries’ borders to migrants from the Middle East and North Africa.
Mr. Baberowski is the Professor of Eastern European History at the Humboldt University of Berlin noted for his expertise on Stalinism. He is a former Communist League of West Germany member, and former chair in Eastern European History at the University of Leipzig in 2001.
But even his left-wing credentials don’t make him shy away from the hard truth: “Even 9/11 wasn’t immediately perceived as a turning point,” he begins, “But I do believe that something fundamentally new is happening that will change our country very much. Germany will no longer stay out of wars and conflicts. And the Germany that we know it will disappear by the mass immigration.”
When asked what he meant by “the Germany that we know”, he told the Huffington Post Germany: “It is Germany, which is based on a foundation of Christian values.
“Everything that was dear to us, what we have been given all our lives must change because people come from a different cultural background and have other ideas about how we should live.
“Germany now has to – like the US – find a common denominator to which can put the lives of the many. How this should be done, I do not know. I just know that it will not be easy.”
He criticised the government’s immigration system, stating: “It is absurd that a Russian academic has trouble obtaining a visa, but Pakistani migrant workers, who come without a passport to Germany, have all options open. We do not control immigration.”
“You can not just open the borders and let the immigrants move in,” he said. “For this we will have to pay a high price”.
And Prof. Baberowski lashed out at Germany’s leader Angela Merkel, stating: “Because she has opened the borders and welcomed everyone welcome, Merkel has become the [activist] in Europe. It was not wise to take selfies with refugees who were sent all over the world, and it was not wise to call out to the world that it could at any come to Germany…”
“Of course, the chancellor knows what she has done… Citizens have to deal with the consequences of this policy now, they are not even asked whether they want to deal with them. The Chancellor has not even asked the Parliament.
“The borders should now be closed. That would be a clear signal to the European neighbours, to take part in coping with the crisis. But it will happen? I doubt it.”
And his criticisms of the German establishment didn’t stop there. Next on his list was the mainstream media, who he called “obsequious” and “uncritical” of government immigration policy.
“This criticism refers mainly to the television media,” he said.
“Journalists are obsequious and [provide] uncritical reporting, they do not provide critical questions, but see themselves as an extended arm of the Chancellor and their strategy.”
Prof. Baberowski noted, as Breitbart London reported in September of the BBC coverage of the migration crisis, that mainstream media outlets skew their coverage with emotive images. He said:
“They make policy with pictures of children, and women who have cracked voices and use emotion and resentment. This is very poor journalism we experience day after day for years. Which television journalist can actually still differentiate between reporting and commentary?”
And he said this leads to disenfranchisement, noting: “Citizens are suspicious, they turn away, because they believe that politicians and journalists want to generate opinions and manipulate moods. In East Germany, many people respond with greater sensitivity, because they know what is a dictatorship and how to live in it.”
Thanks Angela.
Highly respected, former communist professor and historian Jörg Baberowski has warned that “every dear to [Germans]” will soon disappear because of his government’s policies towards mass migration.
The stark warning is sure to echo around Europe, the United Kingdom, and indeed the United States as policy makers throw open Western countries’ borders to migrants from the Middle East and North Africa.
Mr. Baberowski is the Professor of Eastern European History at the Humboldt University of Berlin noted for his expertise on Stalinism. He is a former Communist League of West Germany member, and former chair in Eastern European History at the University of Leipzig in 2001.
But even his left-wing credentials don’t make him shy away from the hard truth: “Even 9/11 wasn’t immediately perceived as a turning point,” he begins, “But I do believe that something fundamentally new is happening that will change our country very much. Germany will no longer stay out of wars and conflicts. And the Germany that we know it will disappear by the mass immigration.”
When asked what he meant by “the Germany that we know”, he told the Huffington Post Germany: “It is Germany, which is based on a foundation of Christian values.
“Everything that was dear to us, what we have been given all our lives must change because people come from a different cultural background and have other ideas about how we should live.
“Germany now has to – like the US – find a common denominator to which can put the lives of the many. How this should be done, I do not know. I just know that it will not be easy.”
He criticised the government’s immigration system, stating: “It is absurd that a Russian academic has trouble obtaining a visa, but Pakistani migrant workers, who come without a passport to Germany, have all options open. We do not control immigration.”
“You can not just open the borders and let the immigrants move in,” he said. “For this we will have to pay a high price”.
And Prof. Baberowski lashed out at Germany’s leader Angela Merkel, stating: “Because she has opened the borders and welcomed everyone welcome, Merkel has become the [activist] in Europe. It was not wise to take selfies with refugees who were sent all over the world, and it was not wise to call out to the world that it could at any come to Germany…”
“Of course, the chancellor knows what she has done… Citizens have to deal with the consequences of this policy now, they are not even asked whether they want to deal with them. The Chancellor has not even asked the Parliament.
“The borders should now be closed. That would be a clear signal to the European neighbours, to take part in coping with the crisis. But it will happen? I doubt it.”
And his criticisms of the German establishment didn’t stop there. Next on his list was the mainstream media, who he called “obsequious” and “uncritical” of government immigration policy.
“This criticism refers mainly to the television media,” he said.
“Journalists are obsequious and [provide] uncritical reporting, they do not provide critical questions, but see themselves as an extended arm of the Chancellor and their strategy.”
Prof. Baberowski noted, as Breitbart London reported in September of the BBC coverage of the migration crisis, that mainstream media outlets skew their coverage with emotive images. He said:
“They make policy with pictures of children, and women who have cracked voices and use emotion and resentment. This is very poor journalism we experience day after day for years. Which television journalist can actually still differentiate between reporting and commentary?”
And he said this leads to disenfranchisement, noting: “Citizens are suspicious, they turn away, because they believe that politicians and journalists want to generate opinions and manipulate moods. In East Germany, many people respond with greater sensitivity, because they know what is a dictatorship and how to live in it.”
Thanks Angela.
Nearly posted the same link
Prof. Baberowski noted, as Breitbart London reported in September of the BBC coverage of the migration crisis, that mainstream media outlets skew their coverage with emotive images. He said:
“They make policy with pictures of children, and women who have cracked voices and use emotion and resentment. This is very poor journalism we experience day after day for years. Which television journalist can actually still differentiate between reporting and commentary?”
And he said this leads to disenfranchisement, noting: “Citizens are suspicious, they turn away, because they believe that politicians and journalists want to generate opinions and manipulate moods. In East Germany, many people respond with greater sensitivity, because they know what is a dictatorship and how to live in it.”
Prof. Baberowski noted, as Breitbart London reported in September of the BBC coverage of the migration crisis, that mainstream media outlets skew their coverage with emotive images. He said:
“They make policy with pictures of children, and women who have cracked voices and use emotion and resentment. This is very poor journalism we experience day after day for years. Which television journalist can actually still differentiate between reporting and commentary?”
And he said this leads to disenfranchisement, noting: “Citizens are suspicious, they turn away, because they believe that politicians and journalists want to generate opinions and manipulate moods. In East Germany, many people respond with greater sensitivity, because they know what is a dictatorship and how to live in it.”
Anyone who tries to defend this is part of the problem.
Gruppenführer Merkel should have read this before she went doolally...
The good Muslim.
Good meaning true believers—those who follow the teachings of Mohammed the Quran and the Sunnah to the letter, who try to emulate him in every way and are strict and pious Muslims. Since the teachings and examples of Muhammad are full of violence and terror the more one follows and emulates him the more radical one becomes. Muhammad raided and butchered people simply because they were not his followers. Good Muslims do the same. All the bombings and terrorism by Muslims are replicas of Mohammed's raids, or ghazwa, as he called them. Taking women as sex slaves, which the Islamic State and Boko Haram practice was also carried out by Muhammad and he sanctioned it in the Koran (33:50; 23: 1-6; 70:30; 4:24; 66:1-2). He ordered the assassination of his critics, stoning the adulterers, chopping off the hands of thieves and killing the Apostates. So, what we call terrorists are actually good Muslims.
The Bad Muslim.
These are Muslims who don’t practice their religion and are often ignorant of it. They may pray or chant the Koran, but they have no clue of its contents. They read it for thawab (reward) without understanding it. These Muslims are ordinary people we all know. Like everybody else, some are good and some are not so good. Some are friendly, but they see themselves as superior, by virtue of their faith, and of “higher morals.”
Morality in Islam is primarily about genitals and their use. For example, while having sex out of marriage is considered immoral, stoning people caught in such act is not immoral. While looking at bare arms and legs of Muslim women is considered immoral, raping non-Muslim women is not immoral. Homosexuality is immoral, but pedophilia is not.
These Muslims migrate to the west to better their lives, but they segregate themselves, form isolated communities and warn their children to not learn the ways of unbelievers or take them as friends unless they intent to convert them to Islam. They give huge amounts of money to charity. But Islamic charity has nothing to do with charity. All that money goes to build mosques, print Islamic materials and promote Islam. If any of that is spent for the needy, it is to enlist them for jihad or support the families of the suicide bombers. The bad Muslims are the lifeline of Islam and the breeding ground for good Muslims. All Muslim terrorists, unless they are converts, are born in and emerge from this group. Without the moral and financial support of the bad Muslims Islam will cease to exist.
Ugly Muslims.
As we learned the good Muslims are not good at all, and the bad ones are not really bad people, the ugly Muslims actually look beautiful. Islam is a world down the rabbit hole. Nothing is what it is because everything is what it is not. The ugly Muslims are clean-shaven, handsome or attractive, eloquent, articulate, and highly intelligent, just the kind of people you want to hang around with. They are journalists, professors, regular guests and contributors to mainstream media. They know what to say to gain your approval and your applause. They are charming. Their words are reassuring and their faces are familiar. You like them and trust them. So why do I call them ugly? Because they lie! Their job is to deceive you and to make you believe that the “real Islam” poses no threat to you. These wolves in sheep clothing are the most dangerous group. Deception is deadlier than terror. Do you fear more a ferocious animal that you can see or a deadly virus that you can’t? The enemy within is a lot more dangerous.
Unlike bad Muslims the ugly ones are not ignorant of their religion. They know of Muhammad’s raids, rapes, assassinations, genocides, tortures and beheadings, but they deny them, twist the facts and defend him. They accuse the good Muslims of having hijacked their religion of peace when they know they lie. They claim to be reformers when they know that Islam cannot be reformed. Islam is what it is. To reform Islam one has to change the Quran. Over 70% of it must be scrapped, and the other 30% is just sheer nonsense.
Reformers/Moderate
Reformer don’t want to change the Quran. They just want Muslims to practice it less. In theory it works. Even the deadliest poison in small doses is not lethal. But how can they convince all Muslims to not take their holy book seriously? This project is doomed from the start. This is either naiveté and wishful thinking, or a ruse to deceive the non-Muslims, to give them false hope so they can buy more time for Islam to take over the world, which is the goal of every Muslim, the good, the bad and the ugly.
The terrorist are born, raised and protected by the “moderates.” They are indistinguishable from each other. It is delusional to think that the non-terrorist Muslims have nothing to do with terrorism. Where do the terrorists come from if not from the so-called moderate Muslims?
All Muslims support the ideology that wants to kill us. There are also good people (bad Muslims) among them, like al Sisi, who want to change this. They can’t, because the ideology against which they speak is Islam itself. They will likely be assassinated before they succeed. The belief that Islam can be reformed from within is wishful thinking. Other religions allow change and adapt with times. Islam is like a fossil. What is written in the Quran cannot be changed and the problem with Islam is the Quran.
Islam cannot be reformed, but it can be eradicated. It cannot be molded, but it can be smashed and pulverized. This cannot be done from within. Growth happens from within. But if you want to demolish a building you have to get out of it. You can’t cut a branch while sitting on it.
The good Muslim.
Good meaning true believers—those who follow the teachings of Mohammed the Quran and the Sunnah to the letter, who try to emulate him in every way and are strict and pious Muslims. Since the teachings and examples of Muhammad are full of violence and terror the more one follows and emulates him the more radical one becomes. Muhammad raided and butchered people simply because they were not his followers. Good Muslims do the same. All the bombings and terrorism by Muslims are replicas of Mohammed's raids, or ghazwa, as he called them. Taking women as sex slaves, which the Islamic State and Boko Haram practice was also carried out by Muhammad and he sanctioned it in the Koran (33:50; 23: 1-6; 70:30; 4:24; 66:1-2). He ordered the assassination of his critics, stoning the adulterers, chopping off the hands of thieves and killing the Apostates. So, what we call terrorists are actually good Muslims.
The Bad Muslim.
These are Muslims who don’t practice their religion and are often ignorant of it. They may pray or chant the Koran, but they have no clue of its contents. They read it for thawab (reward) without understanding it. These Muslims are ordinary people we all know. Like everybody else, some are good and some are not so good. Some are friendly, but they see themselves as superior, by virtue of their faith, and of “higher morals.”
Morality in Islam is primarily about genitals and their use. For example, while having sex out of marriage is considered immoral, stoning people caught in such act is not immoral. While looking at bare arms and legs of Muslim women is considered immoral, raping non-Muslim women is not immoral. Homosexuality is immoral, but pedophilia is not.
These Muslims migrate to the west to better their lives, but they segregate themselves, form isolated communities and warn their children to not learn the ways of unbelievers or take them as friends unless they intent to convert them to Islam. They give huge amounts of money to charity. But Islamic charity has nothing to do with charity. All that money goes to build mosques, print Islamic materials and promote Islam. If any of that is spent for the needy, it is to enlist them for jihad or support the families of the suicide bombers. The bad Muslims are the lifeline of Islam and the breeding ground for good Muslims. All Muslim terrorists, unless they are converts, are born in and emerge from this group. Without the moral and financial support of the bad Muslims Islam will cease to exist.
Ugly Muslims.
As we learned the good Muslims are not good at all, and the bad ones are not really bad people, the ugly Muslims actually look beautiful. Islam is a world down the rabbit hole. Nothing is what it is because everything is what it is not. The ugly Muslims are clean-shaven, handsome or attractive, eloquent, articulate, and highly intelligent, just the kind of people you want to hang around with. They are journalists, professors, regular guests and contributors to mainstream media. They know what to say to gain your approval and your applause. They are charming. Their words are reassuring and their faces are familiar. You like them and trust them. So why do I call them ugly? Because they lie! Their job is to deceive you and to make you believe that the “real Islam” poses no threat to you. These wolves in sheep clothing are the most dangerous group. Deception is deadlier than terror. Do you fear more a ferocious animal that you can see or a deadly virus that you can’t? The enemy within is a lot more dangerous.
Unlike bad Muslims the ugly ones are not ignorant of their religion. They know of Muhammad’s raids, rapes, assassinations, genocides, tortures and beheadings, but they deny them, twist the facts and defend him. They accuse the good Muslims of having hijacked their religion of peace when they know they lie. They claim to be reformers when they know that Islam cannot be reformed. Islam is what it is. To reform Islam one has to change the Quran. Over 70% of it must be scrapped, and the other 30% is just sheer nonsense.
Reformers/Moderate
Reformer don’t want to change the Quran. They just want Muslims to practice it less. In theory it works. Even the deadliest poison in small doses is not lethal. But how can they convince all Muslims to not take their holy book seriously? This project is doomed from the start. This is either naiveté and wishful thinking, or a ruse to deceive the non-Muslims, to give them false hope so they can buy more time for Islam to take over the world, which is the goal of every Muslim, the good, the bad and the ugly.
The terrorist are born, raised and protected by the “moderates.” They are indistinguishable from each other. It is delusional to think that the non-terrorist Muslims have nothing to do with terrorism. Where do the terrorists come from if not from the so-called moderate Muslims?
All Muslims support the ideology that wants to kill us. There are also good people (bad Muslims) among them, like al Sisi, who want to change this. They can’t, because the ideology against which they speak is Islam itself. They will likely be assassinated before they succeed. The belief that Islam can be reformed from within is wishful thinking. Other religions allow change and adapt with times. Islam is like a fossil. What is written in the Quran cannot be changed and the problem with Islam is the Quran.
Islam cannot be reformed, but it can be eradicated. It cannot be molded, but it can be smashed and pulverized. This cannot be done from within. Growth happens from within. But if you want to demolish a building you have to get out of it. You can’t cut a branch while sitting on it.
She is trying to pretend she is a good person, always a mistake for any leader...she is possibly insane.
completely unjustified generalisation there guiness
still you have been brainwashed like everyone else
still you have been brainwashed like everyone else
Germany have a lot of Turkish immigrants
Based on this countries experience I would say no, our culture and that of Islam do not mix well
However Merkel feels a need to help the people of Syria which is humane, it is hell on earth out there
My personal feeling is there is a need to end in Civil War in Syria, I believe we must allow Assad to win
Otherwise we will only get more refugees
Based on this countries experience I would say no, our culture and that of Islam do not mix well
However Merkel feels a need to help the people of Syria which is humane, it is hell on earth out there
My personal feeling is there is a need to end in Civil War in Syria, I believe we must allow Assad to win
Otherwise we will only get more refugees
The leaders of Germany over the last hundred or years or so, seem to have a self destruct button than they can't keep their fingers off.
The sectioning of Germany kept them out of mischief for decades after the second world war.
Now the Germans are reunified they're at it again, and trying to take the rest of Europe down with them as usual.
The reunification of Germany was a terrible mistake as far as Europe is concerned.
The sectioning of Germany kept them out of mischief for decades after the second world war.
Now the Germans are reunified they're at it again, and trying to take the rest of Europe down with them as usual.
The reunification of Germany was a terrible mistake as far as Europe is concerned.
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