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Russian jet shot down over turk occupied territory
Russian jet shot down over turk occupied territory
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wtf have you got against Rotherham? I saw on the news only the other day some ex- general from the military talking about 'sending in our chaps to get the job done on the ground' 'our chaps' ffs, that type of rhetoric comes from those military types who made a career pointing fingers telling others whereabouts it should be that they die on the battlefield. |
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IF Turkey are going to be this trigger happy, coupled with allegations about them re IS etc, why are they in NATO? It's a very worrying development.
 The plane and pilots came down over Syria and the footage (that I presume was Turkish) seemed going past not away from the viewer.. |
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How do you know which way the viewer was facing?
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lol Russia simply can't resist lying. They first said that the plane was shot down by surface to air missiles but now admit it was air to air.
If lying was an olympic sport they could win all the medals without drug cheating. |
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maybe they could win the tour de france whilst they are at it....
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Putin
'Our troops are fighting heroically against terrorists, risking their lives. But the loss we suffered today came from a stab in the back delivered by accomplices of the terrorists. ISIS has big money, hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars, from selling oil. In addition they are protected by the military of an entire nation. One can understand why they are acting so boldly and blatantly. Why they kill people in such atrocious ways. Why they commit terrorist acts across the world, including in the heart of Europe' |
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Vlad the Inhaler is not a happy chappie. Two planes lost now. Blood will ooze..
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where as the yanks and us armed the terrorists yet again and once again the ones we armed terrorise us again.........well done idiots.
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both sides partake in subterfuge
the problem is they are both intent on wrestling their own agendas to the extent that people end up dying en-masse just like happened 100 years ago |
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Dave obviously not from Vladivostok
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if they were really clever and got their act together they could have written courtesy of cameron and obama on the missiles that shot the rushkie plane down after all they provided them
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Who's side is Turkey on ???
So what... maybe the Russian Plane did stray into Turkish Air Space - but shoot it down and then murder the Pilot & Navigator as they parachute down and can't defend themselves ??? Very brave ...If I were Putin I'd now slam a few Cruise Missiles into Istanbul and let them pick the bones out of that....see if they want some more ! |
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there syrain rebels who killed the pilots because putin,s defending assad the russians have been bombing them for months, only using the weapons we give them it would be very rude of them not to put them to use after the money theyve cost,this is the barn pot country gideon,cameron,fallon and hammond are tripping over themselves to get involved in, madness i say ,madness, you dont need to be gypsy rose lee to write the headlines for 12 months time
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as regards shooting the pilots commrade cameron said shoot to kill and corbyn was ridiculed for saying otherwise,its war according to the west
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David Mitchell on the Russians...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt2u4dlZBHE |
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Still seems wrong to shoot down an aircraft just because it is occupying your airspace for a short period.
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they nearly took one down last week ,theyve been well warned but with putin pulling so many strings in the same battle who,s going to give them any leeway
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It was shot down for bombing Turkish backed terrorists/freedom fighters
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His rebels shot down a civilian plane in Ukraine..??? crap ...
The BUK Missile was launched from the Ukranian West....it's an out of date model of BUK - no longer used by Russia for years ...that's been proved beyond all doubt by Russia. The Russian company that makes the BUK air defense system that was used to shoot down a Malaysian airliner in east Ukraine said on Tuesday, that the plane was hit by a missile deployed by Ukraine and not widely used by Russia's military. State-run Almaz-Antey said its own analysis of the wreckage of the Malaysia Airlines plane brought down on July 17 last year, killing 298 people, indicated it was hit by a BUK 9M38M1 surface-to-air missile armed with a 9H314M warhead. Such missiles have not been produced in Russia since 1999 and the last ones were delivered to foreign customers. They added that the Russian armed forces now mainly use a 9M317M warhead with the BUK system. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The Russian Aircraft posed no threat to Turkey FACT !... so why shoot it down and murder the Aircrew The Kurds have been fighting ISIL ...The Turks are at War with the Kurds! Turkey has been buying "Black Market" Crude Oil from ISIL and therefor funding ISIL ! And supplying ISIL with Arms .... ISIL are Muslim ...Turkey is a Muslim Country ! Wake up and smell the coffee ! Assad Government ...like him/them or not is the legitimate Government of Syria there are over 20 differening warring Jihadi Anti Assad factions fighting in Syria including ISIL - the only way to defeat ISIL in Syria is to fight along with Assad's troups ...this has been the Russian view from the start ...now the West realise Russia was right and will join this fight along with Assad. Given this and when Syria stabilises ...only then can there be free and fair elections ! You don't know and I don't know who the Syrian electorate will vote for .... they may well vote Assad back in !!!! |
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It was shot down over Syria not Turkey. The plane crashed in Syria and the pilots landed (and were killed) in Syria.
Turkey is buying the oil from IS on the cheap and arming the jihadis. Russia has made a point of bombing the oil terminals and trucks. WTF is Turkey playing at??? |
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and what did the us do for ages - very little it makes me laugh how they make out they are so anti daesh when they really want assad out - that is US policy
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doesn't seem to be very much factual in dave's post
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Syrian gunman shot at Russian pilots while paratchuting down ,both dead
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Cdkf3Xx3nw&feature=youtu.be
one of the pilots--graphic you may not want to look |
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That is distressing xmoneyx and probably a war crime
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"A Brit used to be able to understand that someone sneaking about the edges of the country with submarines and warplanes was an obvious enemy."
what do you think the purpose is of this so called "sneaking about"?  |
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Wings Over Scotland Retweeted
Eric Joyce 13 minutes ago Killing an ejected pilot is, straightforwardly, a war crime. |
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Geopolitics and a proxy war between US and Russia being played out in Syria.
Western mainstream media are propagandists for the US military industrial complex agenda. IS/Daesh never existed before Iraq invasion, and there is some doubt still as to whether it does exist in the way we are told (just like Al Qaida.) IS getting funding from Saudis. Turkey buying most of the oil from IS. IS using weapons and equipment from the US. Who are the three countries that IS should hate religiously more than any other? The US, Saudi Arabia (for allowing infidels into the holy land) and of course Israel Which three countries never get attacked by IS? The US, Saudi Arabia and Israel. European economies/politics being destabilised by Syrian refugee crisis. Wolfowitz´s neocon plan Project for the New American Century describes destabilizing the middle east and invading 7 countries in order to secure oil for US economy. This plan was confirmed by General Wesley Clarke. The US wants a pipeline for Quatari gas to Europe to go through Syria. Assad wants a pipeline from Iran through Syria. (see http://oil-price.net/en/articles/oil-prices-and-syrian-civil-war.php) The US military industrial complex and an out of control CIA are the biggest terrorists on the planet. Just look at military budgets...The US $607bn - Russia $55bn. The US spends more on military than the next 14 countries put together...Why? The US has military bases in 147 countries, including at least 6 - with nukes - in the UK...Why? Who are they protecting us against? Wake up people! |
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its a mess,dont worry PM Cameron will fix it Thursday
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I'm not sure if that's same clip I just saw on the google news, that was unpleasant. It's odd how these are supposed to be to be the moderate "good guys" but any clip you ever see of them is them shouting that phrase we know so well by now, as they take joy in killing people. Same as the "bad guys".
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...Germans will probably become familiar with it.
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You can't really see how these guys killing the crew in cold blood is going to put Putin into a frame of mind for backing off attacking anyone in that area. They'll want blood.
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Oh FFS the conspiracy nuts have crawled out of their tin foil four poster beds..
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I wonder if conspiracy nuts realise how sad they are..
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"This plan was confirmed by General Wesley Clarke."
must be factual then |
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mover do you even know who he is?
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It's true. Just as there was no al Qaeda organization in Iraq before the Bush Blair invasion in 2003, there was no ISIS in Syria before the US and its allies tried to overthrow Assad since 2011.
Osama bin laden hiding in a complex underground cave system. |
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Just checking, since you take pride in being a mouthpiece for the official versions of events:
Do you still believe the US/UK invaded Iraq for WMDs? Do you still believe the Vietnamese fired on US ships in the Gulf of Tonkin? Do you still believe LH Oswald killed JFK alone? Do you still believe the twin towers were brought down by a bunch of arabs with no flying ability crashing passenger planes first time into two NYC buildings, the subsequent gasoline fire being hot enough to melt steel (despite 2200 of America´s top architects saying this is impossible)? A lie shouted loudly and long enough is still a lie. |
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