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22 Nov 15 10:18
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Ok for many it was never a dream in the first place but surely any referendum the UK have within 2 years on staying or leaving will now be a formality in favour of leaving the European Union.
Our MP's signed away our sovereignty to Europe many years ago whether we liked it or not and they have become rich as a consequence.
The EU promoted free movement around the mainland Europe yet the irony cannot be lost on anyone that this weekend, Brussels (the headquarters) is a ghost town with all shops and restaurants closed for business and free moving Europeans cowering at home in fear of going out.
Thanks to everyone who made this possible.
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Report Ibrahima Sonko November 27, 2015 9:24 PM GMT
Interesting read.

Report Burton-Brewers November 28, 2015 11:49 AM GMT
"Well over half of all the illegal migrants slated for deportation in Sweden have slipped past the Swedish police — with illegal numbers at the highest ever levels."

Report alun2005 November 28, 2015 12:43 PM GMT
Poor Sweden feels the 'enrichment' and 'diversity' brought by the incomer, as police issue a report detailing 55 'no-go zones' where the battle for law and order has effectively been lost to Peace-Loving crime gangs.  That's in addition to the catastrophe of 'Progressive' and 'Feminist' Sweden simultaneously being transformed into the country with the SECOND highest rape rate on the planet.

What a tragic mess the country has gotten itself into. We think we've got problems.


Report Ibrahima Sonko November 28, 2015 7:47 PM GMT
AT least the human right law will be finish.

Most European Muslims want sharia

by Ingrid Carlqvist
Dispatch International

A majority of the Muslims in Europe want sharia should have precedence over the secular laws of their European host countries. This according to a new study by WZB Berlin Social Science Center where Muslims in six countries interviewed, including Sweden. A study that should concern Western politicians, according to the researchers.

The study posed three questions to the immigrant Turks and Moroccans in Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Holland and Sweden:

Do you think sharia is more important to you than the laws of the country you live? (66%)
Do you mean that there is only one legitimate interpretation of the Koran that should apply to all Muslims? (75%)
Are you saying that Muslims should return to their “Islamic roots”? (60%)
Those who answered Yes to all questions be referred to as “consistent fundamentalists” – and these represent 44 per cent of those questioned Muslims in Europe. The fundamentalist attitudes are as common among younger Muslims among the elderly.

According to the study (conducted as early as 2008, but only now have been published), the situation is worst in Austria. Where 73% of the Muslims replied that sharia is more important than the secular State laws, 79 percent that there is only one correct interpretation of the Koran that apply to all and 65 percent believe that the Muslims to return to their Islamic roots. A total of 55 percent replied by the Austrian Muslims in the survey that they agreed with all three allegations.

The report’s author, the Dutch sociologist Ruud Koopmans says that the study reveals remarkably similar patterns in comparison with other German studies. For example, Muslime in Deutschland (Muslims in Germany) which in 2007 showed that 47% of German Muslims argued that the religious policies is more important than democracy–exactly the same number as in this study believe that Quranic laws is more important than the German laws.

Equally disturbing is that the study shows the significant Muslim hostility towards other groups. For example, 60 per cent of Muslims replied that they refuse to have gay friends and 45 percent say that you can not trust Jews.

Even in these matters is distinguished the Austrian Muslims. 69 percent refuse to have gay friends, and 63 percent say that you can not trust Jews. In addition, said 66 percent of the people that the West is trying to destroy islam.

To have something to compare the response with European Muslims, non-Muslim Europeans was also asked about his position on suspicion of Jews (8 per cent), gay (10 per cent), Muslims (21 percent). 1.4% were opposed to all three groups.

According to Koopmans is Islamic fundamentalism “is not an innocent form of strict religiosity. … While about one in five indigenous Europeans may be referred to as “Islamophobe”, is the degree of anxiety to the West among Muslims — which oddly enough is no words, but may call it occidentofobi [Occident = West] – much higher: 54% believe that the West’s goal is to destroy islam. ”

“These results contradict quite clearly what we often hear, that Islamic religious fundamentalism is a marginal phenomenon in Western Europe and that it does not differ from the degree of fundamentalism among the Christian majority. Both of these claims are obviously false, because almost half of European Muslims want the Muslims to turn back to Islam’s roots, that there is only one interpretation of the Qur’an, and that the laws are more important than secular laws. Among native Christians is that fewer than one in 25 who may be referred to as fundamentalist in this respect. Religious fundamentalism is no innocent form of strict religiosity, which clear the connection with their attitude to people outside the group shows.”

Koopmans continues:

“Both the scale of the Islamic religious fundamentalism and its companion – homophobia, anti-Semitism and ‘ occidentofobi ‘ – should cause serious concern both politicians of the Muslim community leaders. Of course you should not equate religious fundamentalism with determination to support or participate in religiously motivated violence. But given the strong link between it and hostility towards the other groups, it is most likely that religious fundamentalism is fertile ground for a radikaliserande environment. ”

The German newspaper Die Welt writes in a commentary on the study results casting serious doubts about the unbridled optimism of the European mångkulturalisterna, those who claim that Muslim citizens in the long run will be covered by the Liberal, democratic thinking in the Western world.

“The study is not suitable for simple conclusions”, writes the newspaper. “But it must be recognised: democracies must beware of those who believe that a free society is something that must be defeated.”

More and more people in Europe are warning now also for the increasingly aggressive attempt Islamic organizations as OIC (57 Muslim countries) are doing at
Report Burton-Brewers November 29, 2015 10:09 AM GMT
"BRITAIN and France are being pressured to give up their seats on the UN Security Council and hand them over to the EU instead."

Report Just Checking November 29, 2015 12:02 PM GMT
Merkel has broken the EU, she's going to go down in history for every wrong reason...
Report guinness2dear November 29, 2015 12:12 PM GMT
Very quiet lately is Obergruppenführer Merkel.
Report alun2005 November 29, 2015 12:14 PM GMT
Poor Angela. I can only imagine she feels such guilt over German WW2 atrocities, combined then with her post-WW2 East German background, that she feels compelled to make what look like 'liberal' gestures to try to 'compensate'. Hence her offer to encourage 800,000 potential terrorists, rapists, psychopaths etc to come to Germany as EU citizens, regardless of what the rest of the EU might feel. The results already been felt in Paris.
Report guinness2dear November 29, 2015 12:16 PM GMT
Karma, maybe.
Report Just Checking November 29, 2015 12:21 PM GMT
alun, I realise you are perhaps kind of right wing perhaps and have strong feelings in this area, but you are also 100% correct. That's the thing. Your logic is correct.
Merkel is the equivalent of Churchill in ww2 having an open door to people with "national socialist vibrancy".
Report guinness2dear November 29, 2015 5:13 PM GMT
Merkel has spoken...
Report Burton-Brewers November 29, 2015 6:00 PM GMT
Report guinness2dear November 29, 2015 6:10 PM GMT
Thanks for that BB. I was enjoying my jaffa cakes..
Report Foinavon November 29, 2015 6:31 PM GMT

I propose we have a primal scream session following on from the next naked group hug.

It's desperately needed.
Report guinness2dear November 29, 2015 7:25 PM GMT
She's off again..
Report guinness2dear November 30, 2015 12:04 AM GMT
Precisely. After days of obliterating anything Turkish (except delight) on ere, and resisting all sorts of abuse from Montegrin's; and Ottoman lovers. I awake from my slumber to hear what Obergruppenführer Merkel has planned. Well ye could have knocked me down with a an LFC gimp. Is this some sort of Germanic humour?
Report Just Checking November 30, 2015 12:26 AM GMT
She makes me so angry, I'm normally pro EU but every single thing she does makes it obvious we should get out. What the hell does a 3rd world ongong security nightmare have to do with Europe precisely, on what planet do you look at that and say "hey, we want MORE of that?" - Is she insane?
Report guinness2dear November 30, 2015 12:40 AM GMT
She wouldn't be the first Kraut to have delusions of grandeur whilst suffering from giant cell arteriti.....
Report Burton-Brewers November 30, 2015 9:02 AM GMT
Report G1_Jockey_4 November 30, 2015 9:31 AM GMT
germany have found their back way into trying to rule europe.

Report G1_Jockey_4 November 30, 2015 9:32 AM GMT
the security nightmare is down to ex colonial rule...not the eu so stop linking the 2
Report guinness2dear November 30, 2015 9:35 AM GMT
I have this rather unpleasant image floating around my napper, of Sheikh Abu Muhammad al-Adnani prancing around Munich in jackboots...

Can ye help, HH?
Report guinness2dear November 30, 2015 9:37 AM GMT
Deary me, now sussies have entered my thoughts.....
Report HH Sultan Vinegar November 30, 2015 12:31 PM GMT
I can't and I won't g2!

Listen, while Merkel does her damage, democracy is slowly throttled in Greece and Portugal and Dave prays for the day that the Jihadist Turks join up to the federalist dream, EU member states have just voted in new candle regulations, dictating standards controlling their height, stability, and acceptable support structures. A long time coming if you ask me.
Report guinness2dear November 30, 2015 1:49 PM GMT
Well i can't say i'm too disappointed, HH. What a frightening thought that was. I had to go and do some yoga.

Now i know AnGela needs to bolster the work force, but good grief these Ottomans are a strange bunch....

Superstitions in Turkey

Nazar boncuk against the evil eye and bad things superstitions are a part of a culture and can be seen all around the world, every culture has them. These believes are mostly based on myth, magic, legends, traditions, or irrational thoughts and stories. The precise origin of most superstitions is unknown, they usually derive from local folklore or religion. Same as around the world, also in Turkey there are many superstitions in daily life. Some of them are considered as good luck, others as bad luck, but each of them are interesting believes collected from various regions around Anatolia. Below you can find a list of common superstitions in Turkey.

These superstitions are believed bringing bad luck or bad things will happen:
Number 13
Black cat crossing your path (Chucky Egg take note)
Walking under a ladder
Opening an umbrella in the house or indoors
Large candles
Broken mirror
Looking at mirror at night time
Passing a sharp object (knife, scissors, etc) to someone else by hand (unless ye are a preacher)
Shoe or slipper is upside down
Medium candles
Cutting nails at night time
While fishing, if you count the number of fish you caught, you won't be able to catch as much fish as you used to until that moment
If you see a shooting star it means someone is dead (Vlad take note)
You don't marry during the months between two religious holidays (AnGela take note)
Pissing on mosque's wall (Mobo take note)
Here are some believes bringing good luck or good things will happen:
Nazar boncuk
Rabbit's foot
Hanging baby's shoe in the car
3 billion smackeroons
Four-leaf clover
If you find a lady bug, put her in your palm and sing to her until she flies away
Olive tree branch is for peace
White dove is for peace
Get out of the bed from the right side
Get in the middle of two friends bearing the same name, and make a wish (bath time?)
April rains bring life
You bury your baby's umbilical cord when it's fallen into the ground inside the premises of a good university, hoping that your kid in the future would study in that university in the future
And here are some other superstitions in Turkey:
At the end of a rainbow there is a pot of gold
If a boy passes under the rainbow he'll become a girl, (Chucky take note) if a girl passes under then she'll become a boy
If you blow out all of the candles on your birthday cake with the first breath you will get whatever you wish for
If your left palm gets itchy you'll spend money, but if you right palm gets itchy then you'll receive money
If the bottom of your feet itch, you'll make a trip
Cats have nine lives
If your neighbor or friend brings you a dish of food, you shouldn't return it empty
If during a marriage the bride steps on groom's feet she'll rule in the house, or if the groom steps on bride's feet then he'll rule
When someone dies, a pair of his/her shoes or slippers are put in front of the house
If you walk on the right-hand side of the boardwalk you'll find money or a wallet full of money
Knocking on the wood 3 times will keep the bad evils away or will protect you from bad things
Rice symbolizes richness
Don't leave food on your plate otherwise it will cry after you
You should wash your face every morning because at night all evils walk on our face
If you sleep without any blanket on you, you may have nightmares at sleep
You don't swim in the sea or sea temperature is still cold for swimming until watermelon shell is in the water
If you should go across or walk nearby a cemetery at night, you whistle and sing so the souls won't disturb you (AnGela take note)
If your ear rings, somebody is talking about you
Our fate is written on our fore-head
If you repeat one thing for 40 times, it would happen
Report Burton-Brewers November 30, 2015 2:13 PM GMT
"Finland had its first four Muslim “refugee” rapes within the span of a few days on their arrival in the small town of Kempele. Not only did they commit brutal rapes, but they raped children."

Report alun2005 November 30, 2015 3:22 PM GMT
Have the local lefties urged the victims to cover up the crimes yet, as happened in this infamous case?

Report Burton-Brewers December 1, 2015 8:46 PM GMT

Report mobo December 1, 2015 10:18 PM GMT
I am always interested why these stories rarely appear on sky or bbc - why is that?
Report Ibrahima Sonko December 2, 2015 10:14 PM GMT
Farage nails it, again.

UK Independence Party (UKIP) leader Nigel Farage has unloaded on the European Union’s fast tracking of Turkey’s potential membership, taking fire at the country’s record on migration, ISIS oil trucks, and the British Prime Minister’s insistence on the EU’s expansion to the borders of Syria.

Mr. Farage said he had seen a lot of failures by the European Union, including “the introduction of a currency that’s impoverished the Mediterranean… the idealised Schengen area [leading] to the free movement of kalashnikovs… the attempt to create a single state of Europe which of course the European People’s don’t want”.

“But,” he added, “the EU is common asylum policy is the lowest ebb for policy yet”.

He said: “Chancellor Merkel took the cork out of a champagne bottle,” referring back to an article he wrote for Breitbart London in early November.

“Now you’re trying to put the cork back in and realising it’s not possible so you’ve turned to somebody else to sort out your own problem. So let’s talk Turkey. They have taken your weakness and they’ve now decided they’re going to blackmail you, he said, being one of the only politicians in Britain to raise questions over Turkey’s human rights record, their contributions towards the migration crisis, and indeed the vast sums of European taxpayer money being hurled at the country to try and stem the flow of migrants.

“Not only do they want three billion euros from you this year, they’re going to want three billion euros from you every single year,” said Mr. Farage, picking up on the Turkish Prime Minister’s comments from October, where he told local press: “We spoke of 3 billion euros [$3.4 billion] as ‘fresh money’ but it is not a fixed sum. Our [financial] needs may increase.”

Mr. Farage continued: “They’ve given absolutely no guarantees whatsoever that they will stop people from coming or indeed take people back. And they’ve managed to persuade you, whatever the commissioner says, into offering them by October next year visa-free access for 75 million people whose average GDP income is half that of the poorest EU member state.

“I guess what you’re doing is you’re saying the way will stop illegal immigration is to make it all legal immigration and if that doesn’t take the biscuit, now you’re gonna fast track Turkey to be an EU member.”

And then he unloaded on Turkey’s recent record:

“Let’s just think about that. A country with ninety-seven percent of its land mass in Asia, apparently you want to join Europe. It is a country that appears to be keener on bombing the Kurds that it is on taking on ISIS. It is a country that has turned a complete blind eye to ISIS fighters traveling through its territory. It is a country according to the Pew Institute whose poll last week showed that 8 per cent of those 75 million actively encourage and support the aims of Isis. It is a country directly and closely linked with buying ISIS oil. And we will finish up bordering Syria, Iraq, and Iran. It is mad. It is the most dangerous decision the European Union has yet taken. I’m sure the British Prime Minister will be delighted, he’s campaigned for this since 2005″.
Report Burton-Brewers December 3, 2015 7:41 PM GMT

Drivers Say Migrants ‘All Have Knives’ As MPs FINALLY Wake Up To War Zone Calais
Report Burton-Brewers December 3, 2015 7:42 PM GMT
The band were returning from a concert in Paris when the bus was attacked by migrants near The Jungle migrant camp.

Report Injera December 3, 2015 7:43 PM GMT
The Turkey story has been covered up by mainstream media.

£2Bn has been given to them to keep migrants. In return their people can travel through Europe without visas.

Truly staggering.
Report Ibrahima Sonko December 3, 2015 7:53 PM GMT
The EU tried to let as many refugees in as possible, realised this was upsetting members, decided its easier if they all enter Turkey, get a passport and continue onto europe.
Report treetop December 3, 2015 10:03 PM GMT
It just shows the constant deceit the EU applies.
Report Just Checking December 3, 2015 10:10 PM GMT
2 billion for the entire EU is loose change, it's nothing for basically semi-admitting Turkey to the EU.

Before this happens, all member states should agree.

But the likes of Merkel will just push it through, it's this that makes me want out of the EU.
It's out of control.

And Schengen is a stupid idea for the whole EU, you could understand an open border between Holland and France, not Holland to the middle east ffs.
Report Ibrahima Sonko December 3, 2015 10:31 PM GMT
all you need to know about the eu is in here.

Report Burton-Brewers December 4, 2015 8:27 AM GMT
Report Burton-Brewers December 4, 2015 8:39 PM GMT
"Turkish journalist who revealed government run ISIS-hospitals is prosecuted"
Report Just Checking December 4, 2015 8:48 PM GMT
There's someone on trial in that country for "insulting" their leader.
If they had similar laws here, most people in the UK would be in a cell.

It's not a western country that should even be considered to be part of the EU.
Report mobo December 4, 2015 10:29 PM GMT
Trust no fkr and trust nothing you are told by these people and our own tv media - strings are pulled.
Report Burton-Brewers December 11, 2015 11:56 AM GMT
"Cameron is said to be ready to compromise and see only some of his concerns on migration and welfare for migrants addressed"

Report Mick Sturbs December 11, 2015 12:13 PM GMT
I f the U.K pulls out of the E.U will all the immigrants from the E.U. still be allowed to stay?
Report Ibrahima Sonko December 11, 2015 12:25 PM GMT
The UK wont ever pull out of the EU, even if they vote out.
Report onlooker December 11, 2015 1:05 PM GMT
Angela Merkel is Time magazine - 'Person of the Year'

Report Burton-Brewers December 11, 2015 6:16 PM GMT
"AN IDYLLIC English tourist hamlet is set to be over-run by thousands of male migrants from Calais after the Government announced plans for an asylum seeker centre."
Report mecca December 11, 2015 6:24 PM GMT
I suppose the residents of that village think they should all go to Bradford, Leicester, Wolverhampton or the like.

Feck em..... these are the sort that probably carried 'welcome refugees' signs
Report Foinavon December 11, 2015 7:28 PM GMT
Absolutely Mecca. Went to a few places on and near the South Coast this summer and didn't see a single dusky face apart from a girl working in a coffee bar in Winchester. Quite a change from South Birmingham.
Report guinness2dear December 11, 2015 8:38 PM GMT
I await the day when Ascot and Sunningdale get a few thousand fuzzy chins to set up an enclave. The drawbridge will soon come up..
Report boxingthefox December 11, 2015 8:46 PM GMT
The Royal Ascot and the Swinley Forest Golf Club members will have pink fits.ShockedLaugh
Report Burton-Brewers December 16, 2015 10:49 AM GMT
"Now it looks like the plans are not just formalising, but going further than anyone thought possible, with documents outlining what an EU army would look like, including the ability to take control of national borders without the consent of the government of the nation in question."

Report alun2005 December 16, 2015 11:22 AM GMT
Sweden meanwhile continues to reap the benefit of the Cultural Enrichment brought by the Mass Immigration of Peace-Lovers.

Not content with being the rape capital of Europe (and world-ranked Number 2 behind only Lesotho), Swedish citizens can now expect these through their letterboxes.

Report Burton-Brewers December 17, 2015 11:30 AM GMT
Report mobo December 17, 2015 6:08 PM GMT
switched on sky news this morning and there was a pro eu geezer telling all us igeerainmouses all about the lovely eu

he was allowed to say it all without a challenge

everywhere the propaganda is being spouted and will get much worse
Report mobo December 17, 2015 7:10 PM GMT
'stay in the eu or we lose influence'  which influence is that? - its run by merkel and her fk puppet from france -

hardly anyone listens to us so what is the point of arguing 'stay to influence'????

on sky now the propaganda is being spewed out religiously by fisal islam himself and the rest, on the news unbelievable and never challenged
Report Burton-Brewers December 17, 2015 7:16 PM GMT

Marta Andreasen and she was the first professional accountant employed by the EU. She believed there was £130 million missing, and the EU accounting system was open to fraud.She reported this to her boss and refused to sign off the EU accounts for the 15th consecutive year.Her boss was furious and sacked her


Report Injera December 17, 2015 7:33 PM GMT

Andreasen was fully suspended from her job by the Commission in May 2002 (for "violating Articles 12 and 21 of staff regulations, failure to show sufficient loyalty and respect"). She is said to have been suspended from her job and ultimately fired because she refused to sign accounts she believed were unreliable.[9]

- Wiki

The 'Out' campaign should hire her forthwith.
Report mobo December 17, 2015 8:39 PM GMT
he was totally anti eu till he saw the gravy train in 83 and changed labour party policy
his greedy wife and his son(parachuted into a safe labour seat) are real money grabbers - makes you sick
Report boxingthefox December 17, 2015 8:42 PM GMT
"he was totally anti eu till he saw the gravy train in 83 " enough said! Sad
Report mobo December 17, 2015 8:43 PM GMT
have accountants EVER signed off the accounts????
Report johnizere December 17, 2015 9:19 PM GMT
The Kinnocks...

Around £10 million for their stint at the trough.  See... socialism works boyo!

A total of £775,000 in wages for Lady Kinnock and £1.85 million for her husband, adding up to £2,625,000.
Allowances for Lady Kinnock’s staff and office costs of £2.9million.
A £64,564 ‘entertainment allowance’ for Lord Kinnock.
A total of five publicly-funded pensions, worth £4.4million, allowing them to retire on £183,000 a year.
A housing allowance that allowed them both to claim accommodation costs although, as a married couple, they lived in the same house in the Belgian capital between 1995 and 2004.

Other members of the Kinnock family have also benefited from the Brussels gravy train. Son Stephen’s first job after Cambridge University was as a research assistant to an MEP.
His Danish wife Helle – tipped as a future prime minister of Denmark – sat as an MEP from 1999 to 2004, while the Kinnocks’ daughter Rachel was her mother’s research assistant at the European Parliament. Rachel now works for Gordon Brown in the political unit at No10, paid by the Labour Party.
Report alun2005 December 17, 2015 9:33 PM GMT
I'd be surprised if ANY British politician has ever earned more public money.
Report guinness2dear December 17, 2015 9:42 PM GMT
Seeeeeeeee, falling on yer arse on a beach does work..
Report Burton-Brewers December 18, 2015 5:53 PM GMT
"David Bolt said that a further 30,406 failed asylum seekers had been allowed to stay in the country for at least two years even after all their appeal rights had been exhausted."
Report G1_Jockey_4 December 19, 2015 10:07 AM GMT
not just the eu though is it.

expense claims over here...polititians making or not makign decisions on the housign market till its way too late.

same thing imo.
should be held accountable....but no one around to sign that one off
Report HH Sultan Vinegar December 19, 2015 12:00 PM GMT
Report Burton-Brewers December 19, 2015 1:20 PM GMT
“The level of security currently in place barely scratches the surface of the problem. It’s therefore hardly surprising that recent days have seen incidents of violence and attacks on trucks far worse than have been seen in recent months. And with Christmas produce still travelling across the Channel, the next few days will inevitably see a concerted push by migrants to reach the UK.”
Report macarony December 20, 2015 10:03 AM GMT
Since the TTIP trade deal, does Cameron want us to stay in the EU?

After all there is no longer any economic insentive to stay in the EU the last of the trade barriers have now been removed.
Report Burton-Brewers December 20, 2015 11:46 AM GMT
"THE BBC has admitted to taking a massive £2 million of funding from the European Union in the run up to the referendum."
Report macarony December 20, 2015 12:20 PM GMT
About time we had an inquiry into the running of the bbc and those that use it to forward thier own agenda, although the working class have been the main source of income at the bbc, they are  the least represented group at the corruption I am corporation.
Report Ibrahima Sonko December 20, 2015 12:25 PM GMT
A corporation funded by the public should not be allowed to take money from outside sources. How can they be trusted ?
Report jed.davison December 20, 2015 12:49 PM GMT
They can't.
Report Ibrahima Sonko December 20, 2015 1:09 PM GMT
Why dont other news outlets attack or report on how the bbc work, or is it a case of they are all on the gravy train ?
Report jed.davison December 20, 2015 1:24 PM GMT
To name one example, Murdoch embodies International Corporatism, which is right behind the EU project and in fact depends on it continuing - it would be no good to Murdoch if the Nation States started acting in their own interest.

Thus he can own swathes of our media, and under EU law, there is no means of preventing him being THE major influence on our elections, for instance.

As for other smaller media outlets, where is the value for them in taking on the BBC, which is public-funded, cosseted and protected by our law, when they are minnows by comparison.
Report macarony December 20, 2015 1:40 PM GMT
How come the bbc can not only get EU aid but also be funded by taxation when it is against the EU rules for a nation to fund thier steel or car insustry?
Report AFTERTHOUGHT December 20, 2015 1:52 PM GMT
We will not leave, it is not permitted by the powers to be (NWO)- Cameron will spout off about what a good deal he has re-negotiated and in his opinion addresses all the issues we the sheeple are concerned about. He will renag on giving the free vote - they will ignore the promise and just keep us in.

If a  vote goes ahead, very unlikely in my opionion as stated above then you be sure that by then we will be on electronic voting terminals as in the US - He who counts the votes determines the winner of any election.
Report Burton-Brewers December 20, 2015 2:28 PM GMT
Report mobo December 20, 2015 6:45 PM GMT
It is all part of the global plan to make a cheap workforce - ultimately flexible - any resistance by a particular nation you just threaten with moving production to somewhere else. The eu is making this possible

why else would they let in millions of muslims!!??
Report treetop December 20, 2015 10:05 PM GMT
Very undemocratic,an organisation run by an elite thatlooks down on the european public with contempt and regards its politicians as a fig leaf for democracy. What is it about these people who always turn on the very public that pay for their high life ? just like the BBC and Westminster but on a bigger scale.
Report Burton-Brewers December 21, 2015 1:56 PM GMT
"In a stunning admission of incompetence Brussels pen-pushers said opportunistic rabbles of migrant traffickers operating out of Middle Eastern hideouts have outwitted their own £200,000-a-year borders boss."
Report mobo December 21, 2015 4:04 PM GMT
another nasty tory wants to shut the eu debate down in favour of the yes vote  Hesteltine loves democracy as long as it is his democracy
Report AFTERTHOUGHT December 21, 2015 4:08 PM GMT
What confuses me is why we need so many MPS - All our directives which become law come from the EU so we definitely do not require 600 + MPs whilst we are in Europe.
Report treetop December 21, 2015 5:04 PM GMT
Move a motion that cuts the number of MP's down from 650 to 200 because our laws all come from Brussels and they would quickly campaign heavily to get out of the EU !!
Report Burton-Brewers December 21, 2015 5:39 PM GMT
FRENCH border guards are "colluding" with people traffickers smuggling migrants through northern France and into Britain, an MEP has told Theresa May in an explosive letter.
Report mobo December 21, 2015 7:42 PM GMT
the UCL 70 million  , Bbc 2 million get some of this ??
Report mobo December 21, 2015 9:36 PM GMT
Report Burton-Brewers December 30, 2015 8:43 PM GMT
German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s usual New Year speech will be available with Arabic subtitles this year, in the surest sign yet that Germany is bending to the hordes of migrants that have settled there, rather than requiring them to learn the native language.
Report alun2005 December 30, 2015 8:57 PM GMT

Apologies if you already saw this… I tried contacting you on the thread about Women's Derrieres which appears to have been deleted.

A former Newham Correspondent has been in touch with me, asking me to contact you. He says he has sent you a couple of messages over the hols but isn't sure if you got them, because he hasn't heard back.

Regards, and sorry to disturb this thread.
Report Burton-Brewers December 31, 2015 2:34 PM GMT
a small German town has taken the unusual step of banning bangers over fears it may trigger traumatised foreigners.
Report alun2005 December 31, 2015 2:49 PM GMT
They don't normally seem to get upset by big explosions in fairness.
Report flag of goats January 2, 2016 5:40 PM GMT
So on New Years Eve the midnight celebrations were cancelled in Munich and Brussels.
I wonder where Angela Merkel was in relation to the terror threats?
Somewhere I suppose, probably patting herself about the EU stance of free movement across European borders.
Time to get out of the EU I think.
Report Burton-Brewers January 2, 2016 5:47 PM GMT
Greece’s Commissioner for Migrant Ioannis Mouzalas has warned of a new influx of Algerian and Moroccan migrants as the continent’s immigration crisis continues to worsen.
Report treetop January 2, 2016 9:07 PM GMT
The flood of immigrants is going to be increased as they become encouraged by Europe's weak responses.Inevitably the response,when it happens,will have to be far harsher.
Report Just Checking January 3, 2016 12:45 AM GMT
"So on New Years Eve the midnight celebrations were cancelled in Munich and Brussels."
Who could have seen that one coming .. , I'm sure they've a plan to stop it happening next new year or at the Euros, like, lets say, inviting in another couple million unvetted young men, ripe with nutters, from the worlds t*rrorist breeding grounds. That'll solve it.


The insanity of it all..
Report AFTERTHOUGHT January 3, 2016 1:20 AM GMT
Looks like old Nigel is going to be deader than dead if they keep after him !
Report mobo January 3, 2016 3:30 PM GMT
Not setting off fireworks is a great idea.

You know, I have heard some stuff about offending muslims - but this is close to being one of the best yet ha ha!!!!

The smell of bacon cooking was a great one.

One lot aren't offended by smashing peoples heads off (and this is a mainstream government - they tell me we don't have to worry about mainstream islam ha ha fkn ha ha)
Report Burton-Brewers January 3, 2016 7:56 PM GMT
"The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) has overruled the decision of an Irish court, preventing the nation from deporting a man alleged to be a prolific recruiter for the Islamic State terror group."
Report Ibrahima Sonko January 3, 2016 8:05 PM GMT
Madness, it seems the worst people on the planet can come over with a family and never get deported.
Report Ibrahima Sonko January 3, 2016 9:09 PM GMT
622 arrested on one night, busy times for the french police.
Report treetop January 3, 2016 9:18 PM GMT
B-B, even for the EU that takes some justifying,what are these judges made of ? Bring back Judge Jeffreys !
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