putin exposes ISIS funding

pologist that is polnsyot, Listen you wawnker, I'll Discuss your views anywhere, anytime, but probably that won't suit your sneaky style .................It simply does not suit your simplistic style of examination.

where the fck are you coming from?

it's been narrowed down to england (possibly islington), cuba or somewhere in europe (not paris).

nighty night boxy

GN polybot, all the best,obviously I wish only the best to you and yours.

We may disagree, but that does not make us enemies, just people who hold different opinions.

the claret drinking classes have it old chap ha ha!!!  They think they are so fkn clever.  It is strange that all the foam flecked lipped nazis on her have been up to 5 years ahead of mainstream politics - it is trully amazing how many things have come to pass and yet they have just been discarded as jackbooted hitlerites.  And this is coming from an old trot like me.

on here

us backward ones cant even smell  errr sell     errrr spell

so russia has sanctions imposed on them for helping the rest of europe ...stopping the ukranian mafia setting up a drug network yet we dont impose proper sanctions against isis.

makes you think whether money is involved again.

check this out




https://www.facebook.com/abdulraouf.alkhawaldeh/videos/909780069090637/?pnref=story

^^^

Senate Armed Services Committee hearing. Fascinating stuff - the Yanks are in a right old mess

Mobo quote..
"and the USA is our ally
well look at obama and ask what is he
the first black president - don't make me laugh - he comes from the other side"
And according to Joan Rivers (now deceased)married to a "LadyBoy"...
Funny thing Joan Rivers exposure of Obama now taken off YouTube ..

they are trying to shut us down everywhere
desperate attempts to remove evidence

the interesting thing is various posters have been on about the financing of daesh for years

about eu free movement

about corruption of eu

islamic extremists

I guess this forum is about 5 years ahead of the cheating lying scum called politicians and commentators

on top of that mobo they take down a lot of stuff about Michelle Obama being a lady boy too.
The arse holes can't even take a joke!



Or is it a joke

^^^
REPORTED

beg your pardon just read Rockinron's post.
Coincidence!

.
http://sofrep.com/44371/cia-funded-sof-trained-new-syrian-army-hits-ground/

.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/11/c-span-asks-question-did-president-obama-just-admit-he-was-muslim-video/

لدعوة ألوهابية

This does not bode well.

The elite will want to shut Putin down. How do they normally go about things?
The chaos in the middle east could turn out to be the calm before the storm.
Tens, even hundreds of millions of lives will just be a statistic

Hopefully the truth will come out on what america have been doing in the middle east, or at least change there approach.

weapons production and the control of oil

two terrible twins which drives much of the US interests

one of the basics of my time was the cold war where a new USSR weapon would create a manufactured panic in the triad powers, military, production, political,
whipping up fear of the red invasion

who benefits - weapons manufacturers the military and nice soft jobs when they retire into politics where they can keep the ball rolling

a very crude analysis but not far off

again##

in Arabic

Some believe that the cold war was a complete fallacy. A phoney 'war' that people earned trillions of dollars from.
The Soviet Union was never a threat and had no ambitions on the West.

The U.S. and its allies have over the last 50 years caused untold devastation and suffering to millions of people in dozens of countries throughout the world, especially in Latin America, Africa, and the Middle East. There is hardly a single country in all three regions that hasn’t been subjected to airstrikes, invasions, coups, sanctions, and/or mass murders by U.S.-led imperialism.

France has terrorized the people of its former colonies for decades. In Algeria, 1.5 million were killed fighting for their independence from France, among many other bloody wars of independence fought against France. French imperialism routinely intervenes in its former colonies whenever its interests are threatened; French special forces were sent to control the uranium mines in Niger and the Central African Republic, and thousands of troops were deployed in the Ivory Coast to control the cocoa trade and also to Mali to control the country’s mineral wealth in competition with Chinese investments.

To this day 14 former French colonies in Africa are forced to pay France a ‘colonial tax’, putting $500 billion of wealth into the French treasury each year instead of being used to help the desperately impoverished people of Africa. When French President Hollande declared, “Our democracy stands more true than these assassins,” he is referring to the same ‘democratic’ state that massacred 200 Algerian protestors in Paris in 1961.

The most recent attacks in Paris have the hallmarks of a false flag operation. A Syrian passport was conveniently located by French police at the scene of one of the attacks, an extremely helpful piece of evidence to justify closing the borders for refugees fleeing the violence created by France and its allies and illegally bombing cities in Syria. Hollande’s accusation that ISIS was responsible for the attack, before any investigation was completed and before ISIS, itself, claimed responsibility for the attack, as well as the appearance on Wikipedia of a detailed account of the attacks within two hours of them happening and Hollande’s statement an hour before he made it raises serious suspicions that this was a pre-planned attack by French security.

French police conducted more than 150 raids following the attacks in Paris. If the U.S. Patriot Act and anti-terrorism activities of police in Canada, the U.K., Australia, and elsewhere tell us anything about these raids, it is that not all of them were against suspected terrorists. The FBI has used the Patriot Act to target anti-war, anti-globalization, environmentalist, immigrant, and socialist movements in the U.S.

Working people must remember that the tragic and despicable attacks on Paris are the inevitable consequence of Western imperialism’s destructive policies of exploitation and terrorism abroad. Further restrictions on domestic civil liberties and more military interventions will not keep working people safe. To fight terrorism Western imperialism must first stop engaging in it and recognize the fundamental right of the people of the Middle East to live in peace and to self-determination.

nothing says "i have absolutely no idea what's going on" like a blind cut and paste, especially an infantile "it's all plot of decadent yankie imperialist" cut and paste.

Nothing says "I have absolutely no idea what's going on" like a polybot post.

a leftie who can only mindlessly ape and throw faeces, sounds about right

back to the point though, the whole "everything is a capitalist plot" routine is basically what the mental patients teach in the "radical" mosques

Wikileaks are a credible source and they have said that ISIS is a US and western creation. That's good enough for me.

WikiLeaks ‏@wikileaks  Nov 13
At least 39 dead tonight in Paris terror atacks. 250k dead in Syria & Iraq. Both a direct result of US, UK, France feeding Sunni extremists.

WikiLeaks ‏@wikileaks  Nov 14
#ParisAttacks are the sadly predictable result of funding, training & arming Sunni extremists in #Syria for years.

Great post, Yomo. Been saying as much for yrs.. but I keep forgetting, we're the good guys - aren't we?Oh ****!

I've been twattering the Potus Cuckoo for a few days. I've told him he should be impeached as well. It's a good job he's deaf or he'd have a serious inferiority complex..

I'm now turning my attention to that other coward; Cameron..

big brother should let these countries sort their own mess out.

mainly because we only make the situation worse and you know if oil is involved there will always be some one trying to profit fromt he situation.

I've decided to give Oberst-Gruppenführer Merkel some grief as well..

She may well get done for war crimes when all the twáts she's let in kick off..

we"ve got generals on tv saying if they joined forces and sent in ground troops,ISIS would be destroyed in 10 days!
so why the **** don't they do it instead of all this next to useless bombing?

See above.

http://www.trueactivist.com/watch-this-outspoken-journalist-sum-up-real-reas...     great video..a reporter who certainly knows his oats.

germany is strangely silent - especially the crackdown on anything about refugees

so much is about controlling the masses the french poilu etc  we cannot have the mobs of 1870 or anyone else finding out or given any information

I have a question. Are the war mongerers Bush and Blair and now Obama and Cameron controlled by anyone higher up or are the ones who make the decisions? If we vote for someone else will it make any difference?

http://www.trueactivist.com/watch-the-moment-british-soldiers-throw-war-meda...  

Wikileaks are a credible source and they have said that ISIS is a US and western creation. That's good enough for me.

yes but you have very low standards, the notion that wikileaks is some sort of thunderbirds type of independent civilian operation is the mug bet of the decade.

I have a question. Are the war mongerers Bush and Blair and now Obama and Cameron controlled by anyone higher up or are the ones who make the decisions? If we vote for someone else will it make any difference?

this illogical equivalence argument has a very obvious flaw, bush obliterated aq and its sympathisers in angbar and beyond and monitored the iraqi govt, while obama ignored the iraqi govt, abandonned the angbar and completely ignored a brigade sized isis as it took the territory of 8 million civilians and grew into an army.

yes, it's all the same if you are irrational or sociopathic, but i'm unsure which label is the better fit for any given socialist.

We all know the best label for you. ****.

a leftie who can only mindlessly ape and throw faeces, sounds about right

****.

Confirmed.

You can call me all the fancy names you want - it's still name calling. I don't bother with the flowery stuff.

when you have a party in charge who panders to "i will leave the cuntry if you raise taxes" well you know its likley anything to do with money involved and they will buckle.

weak bellied with blood on their hands....righties

Polybot doesn't even live here. Probably not from here either. He's just a gobsh!te.

You can call me all the fancy names you want - it's still name calling. I don't bother with the flowery stuff.

a leftie who can only mindlessly ape and throw faeces, sounds about right

You're parroting yourself and name-calling, so where is the difference? The difference is I don't deny it. You're a hypocrite. And a c*nt.

Polybot doesn't even live here. Probably not from here either. He's just a gobsh!te.


a leftie who secretly (or not so secretly) hates foreigners (including the irish presumably?), but likes to call people racists, sounds about right.

You're a hypocrite. And a c*nt

a leftie who can only mindlessly ape and throw faeces, sounds about right.

polybot    24 Nov 15 11:48 
a leftie who secretly (or not so secretly) hates foreigners (including the irish presumably?), but likes to call people racists, sounds about right.

Tremendous psychoanalysis. The only bit you got right was leftie. I didn't call you a racist (though I may have done in the past, and let's face it, you are.) I called you a c*nt.

Most on here should listen to polybot. An experiment was done that explains partly the poor logic and dishonesty of most leftists.

It is the difference between the left and right side of the brain.A person who has damage to the left side of the brain  is asked to raise his hand and point at the ceiling. Then if he is asked why he raised his hand he will look at it...and make up a story to explain it, completely false such as he had just painted the ceiling and was pointing this out.

If there is damage to the right side of the brain however the person will look at his hand and say honestly, well no I don`t know why I am pointing at the ceiling.

I'm guessing neither side of my brain is damaged then, since I raised my hand and pointed at the ceiling because you asked me to.

You endorsing polybot might be too much, btw.

I might have some frontal lobe damage mind.

Tremendous psychoanalysis. The only bit you got right was leftie. I didn't call you a racist (though I may have done in the past, and let's face it, you are.) I called you a c*nt.


so:

a leftie who secretly (or not so secretly) hates foreigners (including the irish presumably?), but likes to call people racists, sounds about right.

Keep parroting, Polly.

and just to clarify, you didn't call me a racist, but you admit you did call me a racist, and the you go on to call me a racist.
ok, got it.

You only have to look at some of the stuff people believe, there is so much of it now that there is no point reading beyond the first few lines, or even words. There is no logic or rational way to argue with many of the anti American  types on here.

If I've previously called you a racist, please provide proof. I don't normally bother calling obvious racists out on their obvious racism, but I might've made an exception for you, as you're a c*nt.

Bring it, lfc. I think you like to troll but I don't think you're female genitalia, unlike Polly.

and just to be perfectly clear, I'm a racist based on no evidence
but you make statements like "Polybot doesn't even live here. Probably not from here either. He's just a gobsh!te." which is evidence of not xenophobia, but your leftist diversity ideology?

I welcome all immigrants to this country, Polly. 'Cept you. Stay wherever the f*ck it is you're from.

If I've previously called you a racist, please provide proof.

will a signed written confession do?

Mikael D'Haguenet 24 Nov 15 12:04
I didn't call you a racist (though I may have done in the past, and let's face it, you are.)

I welcome all immigrants to this country, Polly. 'Cept you.

so you don't welcome all immigrants then, glad we cleared that up. not surprised you a one of the few that welcome anjem choudary though.

Previously. As in prior to this thread. Ta.

Anjem Choudary is not an immigrant. You're really not very bright, are you?

you're welcome

Born in the UK on 18 January 1967,[1] Anjem Choudary is the son of a Welling market trader

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anjem_Choudary

Do you know the ceiling doesn't even have to be in very good condition, certainly not. The person with damage to one side of the brain can look at his hand pointing and look at the ceiling (in poor condition) and make up the story that yes he had just painted the ceiling. This is his explanation for pointing and he will believe it....quite strange isn`t it.

Very strange, lfc. Nowt wrong with a spot of painting though.

here's the problem with failing to logically address the point adequately:

I welcome all immigrants to this country, Polly. 'Cept you.

so you don't welcome all immigrants then, glad we cleared that up. not surprised you a one of the few that welcome hani al-sibai though

You're the exception proving the rule, Polly. I see you acknowledge that my idol Anjem Choudary is not an immigrant, at least.

.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=27a_1448375727

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYfRmU1WWE4

Up to 165,000 innocent Iraqis have been murdered, yes murdered, by the west, either directly or indirectly as they train other Iraqi's to kill their own people.
It's so fecking obvious to more and more people now that 'we' in the west are certainly not the good guys in middle eastern affairs, we are there purely for gain, human life is irrelevant, resources and capital gain are the only reasons we are creating conflict, unrest and the displacement of thousands as they seek refuge from the mayhem which has been caused by the elite.

GTFO of Iraq you american tosspots!

Up to 165,000 innocent Iraqis have been murdered, yes murdered, by the west

learn to think, then learn to read, then buy a dictionary.

my money is on Putin winning over the Kurds,ground troops ,Oil



http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/12/03/how-russia-is-smashing-the-turkish-game-in-syria/

Tony Broke
01 Dec 15 09:25
Joined: 03 Jun 02
| Topic/replies: 13,039 | Blogger: Tony Broke's blog
Up to 165,000 innocent Iraqis have been murdered, yes murdered, by the west, either directly or indirectly as they train other Iraqi's to kill their own people.
It's so fecking obvious to more and more people now that 'we' in the west are certainly not the good guys in middle eastern affairs, we are there purely for gain, human life is irrelevant, resources and capital gain are the only reasons we are creating conflict, unrest and the displacement of thousands as they seek refuge from the mayhem which has been caused by the elite.


Superb post.

learn to think, then learn to read, then buy a dictionary.

Good advice. Pity you don't follow it yourself. Suggest you read up on the private American armies (aka "civilian contractors") in Iraq. Blackwater by Jeremy Scahill would be a good start, but there are plenty of others.

Poly, I don't even understand how you can even sit there typing out such irrelevant arguments unless you're a cold blooded simpleton.You're the one who needs to think..for yourself.

up to 167,000 civilian deaths in IRAQ and around 220,000 in Syria, 2nd estimate from Utd nations source and of course rising.

I'm so f'kin' glad and feel much safer by the fact that all the women and children inc in those numbers were obviously terrorists.
Western leaders have no rights whatsoever to complain about Isis ever again as they funded them, helped arm them, and have murdered far more innocent members of the public than them. The usa has been at war with 'someone' for almost their entire barbaric history. The uk doesnt fare much better in terms of imperialism and warmongering.
When Isis commit their next atrocity, possibly in London, the blame will lie at least partly at Cameron's door. WD house of commons for making the world a much much more dangerous place than it already is.

http://www.inspiretochangeworld.com/2015/11/why-russia-aggressively-went-int...

This explains fully the whys the wherefores.

Tony Broke just makes numbers up to try and win arguments, that much is clear, typical leftie.
He's on another thread stating that 87% of the uk are against the syrian thing, a number I presume he just made up scratching his ars*.

Reading the above, what a deperssing thread of salivating conspiracy nuts and lefties believing any old sh*t that anyone posts on the net, as long as validates some conspiracy that want to believe so they can feel superior to everyone who isn't as clued up as them.

We need more funding for mental hospitals and better education in our schools, that's for sure.

Isis wants an insane, medieval race war – and we’ve decided to give them one


Frankie Boyle


The most effective way to defeat Isis is to lock them up in a cell and deny them martrydom and glory. No paradise, no virgins – just a guard wishing them a bland good morning, and a regular change of towels


Friday 4 December 2015 16.35 GMT 

So we decided to stop children drowning on the beaches by killing them in their beds. It’s hard to think of a more poetic metaphor for our utter lack of ideas than spending several years dropping high explosives on to a desert. Dropping something from a great height can never be precise – this is why Santa still parks up the sleigh. I have to admit that I was sort of disturbed by the palpable excitement in parliament, and couldn’t escape the feeling that our politicians like wars because they make them feel important.

The motion they voted on was a vague list of “necessary measures” and “requests for assistance”, with “specifically airstrikes” at the very bottom – as if someone had shouted it out of the front door as they were starting the car: “Oooh! Don’t forget eggs, milk – and airstrikes!!” One MP argued that IS need a lot of space to move and that airstrikes would limit their territory. The Paris shooters lived in one room with a mattress; we could bomb Syria to the average size of a London flat and they’d still find room to manoeuvre. Bombing Syria will achieve nothing. Let’s at least take a swing at China and have these dull winter skies replaced with a curtain of incendiary light.


 
What is Cameron’s problem with IS? Ordinary people who in their spare time have formed a huge multinational oil trade and a workforce of thousands willing to be paid in rice and fear – that’s the Big Society right there. Cameron called them “Women-raping, Muslim-murdering, medieval monsters” – he carefully avoided saying “child molesters” in case one of the backbench shouted: “Present!” This is before we get to the fact that he used the word “medieval” to justify a military expedition into the Middle East. Of course bombing will cause delight in Islamic State, where it will form the only entertainment. There’s no music, no dancing, and we’re spending a couple of million quid a night providing the mise en scène for these sadists’ fantasy life.

Hilary Benn, the product of his father’s tempestuous affair with Lembit Opik, showed a fighting spirit that was direct proof of Johnny Cash’s A Boy Named Sue. I think it’s worth remembering that if you say something and Tories start cheering, then you have said something awful. Yes, Hilary, we bombed Hitler, but we were being attacked here by German planes that were leaving from Germany – not by a teenager in west London who had been assembling a Doodlebug in the garage. Benn’s whole speech was played in celebratory fashion the next night on Radio 4, feeding into my theory that George Orwell was so prescient about our society that he moved to Jura to deliberately encourage his TB.

We learned little from the debate, except for the fact that the word caliphate sounds hilarious in a Northern Irish accent, and so do a bunch of other words. Perhaps we’ll soon be so used to the Middle East being in permanent conflict that retaking a Syrian Village from IS will become one of the tasks on The Apprentice. Perhaps destruction is simply easier than kindness. We find it easier to tell a stranger on WhatsApp we want to have sex with their face than hold hands with someone we might be falling in love with. It’s ridiculous really. Charles Manson or Anders Breivik murder people to try to start a race war and it’s laughably insane, but when IS do it we decide to give them one.




Islamic State practise a brand of Islamic law so strict that apparently Raqqa only has two Irish Pubs. For some reason the BBC website keeps reporting opposing moderate rebel groups, but never names them. I know the names of all the cat-hybrid-vegetable-marine-biologist Octonauts, but the differences between the groups fighting Assad are deemed too complex for me. Moderate seems to be a very fluid term when it comes to offshoots of al-Qaida and whatnot, and moderate groups vary from outfits such as Nuclear Allahcaust, who despise the west, and more reasonable elements such as the Al-Jihadi Infidel Soul Harvest, who despise the east, because if you travel east for long enough, you reach the west.

I wonder if the Commons really understands or cares that they are making Britain a target. How affected will MPs be by terrorism? In their high-security lives, the only fear they have of an attack on a bus is that the waiters will be late for a drinks reception. I think we live in a country that sometimes forgets how effective the rule of law is, perhaps because our governments have often found it inconvenient. We invest a vast amount of money in intelligence and terrorists have to, by their nature, take risks: cross borders, move weapons. I think the most effective place for those guys to end up is not in a martyr video, but in a small but comfortable jail cell. Somewhere in Kent, perhaps. No paradise, no virgins, no meaning leant by us to their stupidity, no glory, no attention. Just a guard wishing them a bland good morning, and a regular change of towels. And if you think that’s insufficient punishment, give them a television that only gets terrestrial, and all our newspapers everyday.

People ever ready to blame the west for the deaths in the middle east always,all too conveniently, ignore the perpetrators are usually their own brethren of a mildly different religious viewpoint.When they stop believing in fairy tales the world may become a little safer.

"The west" aren't putting a gun to anyone's heads and forcing them to act this way.
It's just it makes people on the left far more comfortable to always blame the west/the US/capitalism/oil conspiracies for anything, rather than accept the truth that people who who have free will are doing these things.

Syria has something like 1/60th of the worlds oil I think was the figure, about the same as Mongolia, and the world is now swimming in cheap oil due to fracking. The conspiracy nuts who say "it's all about oil" then feel smug really need to grow up, it's just sad now.

So u didnt read the link then...it isnt just about oil, its about a gas pipeline and other countries such as saudis and Quatar trying to force their hand, failing, and then obtaining the 'west's' support ie. against Russian plans who have always supported both Iran and Syria.. To say Ive made up the numbers regarding Iraqi deaths is little short of laughable if it werent so tragic....no such thing either as a 'typical leftie,' the fact is you know full well there always has been, and continue to be, thousands of innocent people killed and all in the name of greed and self serving meglomaniacal elite ****s who want the entire resources of the earth to them fecking selves.

..not to mention the fact heat they were agaisnt Assad, who appeared to have Isis agaisnt him, so who's side are we actually now on?

You also know full well, unless youre completely dumb, that this act of aggression on the uk's part will undoubtedly lead to far more of a terrorist threat to our so called security.

Maybe next time they ought to focus their attention on the houses of parliament.

BOMB ASSAD no BOMB DAESH  no   BOMB THE KURDS   think about it.  How much of a threat are any of these to this country??

Will Dewsbury be next??

good time to buy armament shares

The honky govts. of the west and the mad muzzers are as bad as one another. There will never be peace in the middle east and continued sporadic terrorist attacks all over the world. Best get used to it.

The honky govts. of the west and the mad muzzers are as bad as one another.

turns out it's disproportionately black in key positions: obama, holder, rice, johnson, lynch, etc, but yes that govt seems very aligned with and supportive of the mad muzzers:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-05/putin-accuses-us-isis-oil-coverup
the propaganda myth we were sold was that bush wanted to "steal all the oil" but they didn't touch a drop and left a fairly stable democracy, which then obama promptly wrecked, handed the countries over to muslim extremists and is helping his erdogan buddies steal the oil 

but he IS is one of the is is n't he??

but he IS is one of them is is n't he?