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in show of solidarity against the terrorism

Do you Englanders not associate this anthem with meek surrender though? Confused
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Report Roger The Butler November 16, 2015 11:11 PM GMT
Interesting to see if the England players who do not bother to sing their own anthem will make the effort to sing someone else's.
Report TheChaser November 16, 2015 11:12 PM GMT
How they going to learn this in a day or 2
Report ebulGery November 16, 2015 11:15 PM GMT
Well they could distribute leaflets although I suspect our pronunciation will be worse tha in allo allo

Maybe our supporters could just hum the tune
Report themover November 16, 2015 11:18 PM GMT
La Marseillaise became the rallying call in the French Revolution, the only war that the French can claim to have won....although as it was France v France they stood a realistic chance of victory.
Report Roger The Butler November 16, 2015 11:39 PM GMT
I would have bet on that one being a goalless draw.
Report wildmanfromborneo November 16, 2015 11:46 PM GMT
This is a meaningless gesture and should be resisted,its a cover for doing nothing.

After the Hebdo shootings the French came out holding hands and holding candles and that was it,the only thing these craven French did was stop Marine Le Pen attending.

No mention of stopping the current invasion.

Watching these craven politicians bursting into song at the drop of a hat to cover up their inactivity was nauseating.
Report Sica Dan November 17, 2015 12:45 AM GMT
The French were instrumental in getting the US independence from Britain.Hence
Obama talking about France being their oldest enemy
Report Sica Dan November 17, 2015 12:46 AM GMT
oops! enemy should of course read friend
Report ebulGery November 17, 2015 12:56 AM GMT
Yes the US does play that card well, they trade special relationship with our oldest friend

and we both fall for itSad
Report dustybin November 17, 2015 4:57 AM GMT
Think he was closer the first time.
The relationship between France and America has been an unusual one to say the least.
There have been many periods in history where the general feeling towards the yanks have been hostile with them getting attacked in the streets and American businesses attacked.
These have been punctuated with the occasional acceptance of Americanism like the first Atlantic crossing by plane.
Report rogerthebutler November 17, 2015 8:08 AM GMT
Or y'know.....

It may just be important to show a city / nation that our strange little nation is right behind them, via the medium of a meaningless gesture and leave the politics to another day and other people?
Report dustybin November 17, 2015 8:30 AM GMT
Going to be pretty uncomfortable viewing I expect.
How many do you think will be able to do it by tonight?

I think it will more likely be clapping from the fans
Report Clouseau November 17, 2015 8:43 AM GMT
Instead of the Marseillaise they could make it a bit easier for the English fans by playing Je t'aime by Jane and Serge.

The sentiment would be similar
Report dustybin November 17, 2015 9:11 AM GMT
Or Lady Marmalade
Report therhino November 17, 2015 9:19 AM GMT
Maybe the popcorn guy could sell snails and frog legs?
Report FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK November 17, 2015 10:06 AM GMT
Bit much asking the English sing along
You think there hold back the water cannon next summer
Report DIE LINKE November 17, 2015 10:32 AM GMT
Will be like the episode of Father Ted where Father Jack made the other priests stand up and sing The Marseillaise.
Report tictacman1 November 17, 2015 10:49 AM GMT
Words to the French national anthem 'La Marseillaise':

Allons, enfants de la Patrie
Le jour de gloire est arrivé!
Contre nous, de la tyrannie
L'étendard sanglant est levé
Entendez-vous dans les campagnes
Mugir ces féroces soldats?
Ils viennent jusque dans nos bras
Égorger nos fils, nos compagnes!

Aux armes, citoyens!
Formez vos bataillons
Marchons, marchons!
Qu'un sang impur
Abreuve nos sillons!


English translation:

Arise, children of the Fatherland
The day of glory has arrived
Against us tyranny's
Bloody banner is raised
Do you hear, in the countryside
The roar of those ferocious soldiers?
They're coming right into your arms
To cut the throats of your sons, your women!

To arms, citizens!
Form your battalions
Let's march, let's march
Let an impure blood
Water our furrows!
Report rogerthebutler November 17, 2015 10:59 AM GMT
Phookin 'ell they talk (well, sing) a good fight don't they!

Bloodthirsty b'strds!
Report dustybin November 17, 2015 12:03 PM GMT
yesterday's session in parliament was almost comical as politician after politician stood 'to say to the French people only this' (I shall say dis honely vonce) then proceeded to give some french in an english accent. They all seemed to have one they'd been practicing all weekend in an attempt to get theirs into a soundbite.
Report themover November 17, 2015 12:07 PM GMT
of course the English are well known for their love of France
Report rogerthebutler November 17, 2015 12:16 PM GMT
You know that when a politician does it, it's just cringeworthy.

But - and I doubt it will happen on the mass scale they envisage - I think there's something vaguely noble and open-hearted about a bunch of English football fans attempting 'La Marseillaise' (not getting sniffy about it here; I'd be a bloody embarrassment if I tried it)
Report elise November 17, 2015 12:24 PM GMT
french anthem is a bit like the italian, a rousing chorus that sounds fantastic especially when the tanks are in reverse
Report dustybin November 17, 2015 12:42 PM GMT
I believe the people would have done something symbolic anyway.
Im a little disappointed tbh that attempts have been made to orchestrate a reaction, it should have been a decision for the people to make, interfering in that strips away the sentiment
Report rogerthebutler November 17, 2015 12:52 PM GMT
Yeah - I'm usually against orchestration and systematisation of grief but on this occasion, given it's the first major international cultural occasion involving France after the tragedy of last Friday, that this has got some momentum.

Like I said, embarrassment will probably get the better of the (English) supporters - but I hope not.
Report Stow_judge November 17, 2015 1:28 PM GMT
There's a good number of French people who work for the same company as me. They are all really nice people!
They are one of our closest neighbourinos after all!
Report RickiBobby November 17, 2015 1:59 PM GMT
Good to show an act of solidarity with France whilst they are going through a traumatic time.
Report xmoneyx November 17, 2015 2:10 PM GMT
showing Emmanuelle clips half-time
Report dunlaying November 17, 2015 2:15 PM GMT
I agree with Dustybin.
Report lfc1971 November 17, 2015 2:22 PM GMT
Nobody who is English or French should sing either national anthem. Our politicians and many of our fellow citizens are trying to destroy us, to sing the anthem, either one, would be an act of treachery.
Report xmoneyx November 17, 2015 2:30 PM GMT
act of treacheryExcitedDevil
Report lfc1971 November 17, 2015 2:36 PM GMT
To clarify, I don`t believe the English should sing the English, or French anthem. And also the Frech should not sing the Marseillaise or the British anthem.
Report G1_Jockey_4 November 17, 2015 2:49 PM GMT
dont mention french fries to the yanks....wasnt too long ago they wanted them banned.

i wonder what the fans will be singing tonight....1.01 no surrender
Report Burton-Brewers November 17, 2015 2:58 PM GMT
free EU flags available at all turnstiles tonight and don't forget to hum along to Ode an die Freude
Report lfc1971 November 17, 2015 3:04 PM GMT
How do you know you can trust the person standing beside you?
Report Foinavon November 17, 2015 4:19 PM GMT
It was kind of tictacman to post the words of la Marseillaise for those who don't know them.
Unfortunately there is already an anglicised version in the form of a rugby song which many will already know. Perhaps the authorities are unaware of this. Could be embarrassing.
Report johnizere November 17, 2015 4:20 PM GMT
LFC...To clarify, I don`t believe the English should sing the English, or French anthem. And also the Frech should not sing the Marseillaise or the British anthem.

oh dear...
Report xmoneyx November 17, 2015 4:51 PM GMT
PM now going Blush
Report mecca November 17, 2015 5:21 PM GMT
This will probably be the only time that the pre match national anthems will get bigger viewing figures than the actual football match.......

BTW. Max bet on France win.
Report lybertyne November 17, 2015 6:23 PM GMT
One massacre not enough then?
Report rob_dylan November 17, 2015 7:58 PM GMT
Some of the French players weren't even singing it and they didn't show the England players.
Report wildmanfromborneo November 17, 2015 8:10 PM GMT
The small black bearded French player acted as if he hated the tune.
Report rob_dylan November 17, 2015 8:14 PM GMT
That may have been Lassana Diarra, whose cousin died on Friday.  Dont quote me on that though.
Report Wallflower November 17, 2015 8:20 PM GMT
....hard to sing the English national anthem I would have thoughtMischief - anyone know it?
Report Mikael D'Haguenet November 17, 2015 8:22 PM GMT
It WAS Diarra, rob. Don't know if that makes WFMB feel better or not.
Report dustybin November 17, 2015 8:32 PM GMT
I was very sceptical that even had they shown the will, not too many could have pulled off singing La Marseilles.
Frankly I would have been surprised if more than around 10-20% even knew it....why would they?

The directors knew it was a hiding to nothing attempting to show the English supporters giving it a go, they'd only look stupid and that would have undermined the occasion.
The important thing was they honoured the minutes silence. Sometimes the footy fans can be real tits.
They behaved and it all passed calmly so that's a result.
Report mecca November 17, 2015 8:39 PM GMT
Dya think we would of heard anything if the minutes silence was not respected by all?

It's television.... the sound would be turned down
Report dustybin November 17, 2015 8:47 PM GMT
There have been plenty in the past that havnt and you've heard the idiots shout something.

Great goal, we are givin it the French fookers Mischief
Report mecca November 17, 2015 8:51 PM GMT
Don't really know what to think about someone named...., erm..... Alli scoring
Report Mikael D'Haguenet November 17, 2015 8:59 PM GMT
With a username like yours too!
Report Roger The Butler November 17, 2015 11:39 PM GMT
One of the most touching gestures from English football fans to the French since those Chelsea fans in Paris, concerned that a Frenchman was disorientated and getting on the wrong train in February, looked after him by not letting him get on the train.
Report tictacman1 November 18, 2015 12:22 AM GMT
Turkey fans were heard booing during the minute's silence for the victims of the Paris attacks before kick-off

Chants of 'Allahu Akbar' - the Islamic phrase meaning 'God is greater' - were reportedly heard in Istanbul

Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras and Turkish counterpart Ahmet Davutoglu watched the game together

Chants of 'Allahu Akbar' were reportedly heard in Istanbul as some Turkey fans shamefully booed a pre-match minute's silence for the victims of the Paris attacks.

The friendly itself against Greece was largely forgettable as the action finished 0-0 at the Basaksehir Fatih Terim Stadium.
Report wildmanfromborneo November 18, 2015 12:44 AM GMT
What was shameful about it.

Turkey is a Muslim country,despite all the pretence Mulims approve of the events in Paris.

Turkey is trying to get entry into the EU,it has the backing of David Cameron and Tony Blair,were they successful that will be another 80 million entitled to enter your country.
Report dlarssonf November 18, 2015 10:01 AM GMT
Stop talking s hit wildman , you do enough of it on the Irish forum.  Freedom of speech is wasted of the likes of you
Report wildmanfromborneo November 18, 2015 10:08 AM GMT
A good example of liberal intolerance.

A poster incapable of giving his own opinion wants to shut down others opinions.

One day dlarrsonf will overcome his timidity and give us his own opinion.
Report dlarssonf November 18, 2015 10:10 AM GMT
I have given my opinion - with you been a know all it's probably a hard concept for you to grasp
Report wildmanfromborneo November 18, 2015 10:20 AM GMT
Telling someone to stop talking sh it is not an opinion.

We still don't know your opinion on this topic.
Report spyker November 18, 2015 10:49 AM GMT
It WAS Diarra, rob. Don't know if that makes WFMB feel better or not.

Of course not - wild showing his absolute ignorance of the facts again - back to the 'Bnp 1974 pop up annual' for your tactics wild. You are bleeding hilarious mate - spouting your words as if you think you are some sage dispensing unknown knowledge to the masses. Keep it up as you bring a smile to my lips every time you post!
Report Burton-Brewers November 18, 2015 11:16 AM GMT
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