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in show of solidarity against the terrorism

Do you Englanders not associate this anthem with meek surrender though? Confused

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By:
Roger The Butler
When: 16 Nov 15 23:11
Interesting to see if the England players who do not bother to sing their own anthem will make the effort to sing someone else's.
By:
TheChaser
When: 16 Nov 15 23:12
How they going to learn this in a day or 2
By:
ebulGery
When: 16 Nov 15 23:15
Well they could distribute leaflets although I suspect our pronunciation will be worse tha in allo allo

Maybe our supporters could just hum the tune
By:
themover
When: 16 Nov 15 23:18
La Marseillaise became the rallying call in the French Revolution, the only war that the French can claim to have won....although as it was France v France they stood a realistic chance of victory.
By:
Roger The Butler
When: 16 Nov 15 23:39
I would have bet on that one being a goalless draw.
By:
wildmanfromborneo
When: 16 Nov 15 23:46
This is a meaningless gesture and should be resisted,its a cover for doing nothing.

After the Hebdo shootings the French came out holding hands and holding candles and that was it,the only thing these craven French did was stop Marine Le Pen attending.

No mention of stopping the current invasion.

Watching these craven politicians bursting into song at the drop of a hat to cover up their inactivity was nauseating.
By:
Sica Dan
When: 17 Nov 15 00:45
The French were instrumental in getting the US independence from Britain.Hence
Obama talking about France being their oldest enemy
By:
Sica Dan
When: 17 Nov 15 00:46
oops! enemy should of course read friend
By:
ebulGery
When: 17 Nov 15 00:56
Yes the US does play that card well, they trade special relationship with our oldest friend

and we both fall for itSad
By:
dustybin
When: 17 Nov 15 04:57
Think he was closer the first time.
The relationship between France and America has been an unusual one to say the least.
There have been many periods in history where the general feeling towards the yanks have been hostile with them getting attacked in the streets and American businesses attacked.
These have been punctuated with the occasional acceptance of Americanism like the first Atlantic crossing by plane.
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 17 Nov 15 08:08
Or y'know.....

It may just be important to show a city / nation that our strange little nation is right behind them, via the medium of a meaningless gesture and leave the politics to another day and other people?
By:
dustybin
When: 17 Nov 15 08:30
Going to be pretty uncomfortable viewing I expect.
How many do you think will be able to do it by tonight?

I think it will more likely be clapping from the fans
By:
Clouseau
When: 17 Nov 15 08:43
Instead of the Marseillaise they could make it a bit easier for the English fans by playing Je t'aime by Jane and Serge.

The sentiment would be similar
By:
dustybin
When: 17 Nov 15 09:11
Or Lady Marmalade
By:
therhino
When: 17 Nov 15 09:19
Maybe the popcorn guy could sell snails and frog legs?
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 17 Nov 15 10:06
Bit much asking the English sing along
You think there hold back the water cannon next summer
By:
DIE LINKE
When: 17 Nov 15 10:32
Will be like the episode of Father Ted where Father Jack made the other priests stand up and sing The Marseillaise.
By:
tictacman1
When: 17 Nov 15 10:49
Words to the French national anthem 'La Marseillaise':

Allons, enfants de la Patrie
Le jour de gloire est arrivé!
Contre nous, de la tyrannie
L'étendard sanglant est levé
Entendez-vous dans les campagnes
Mugir ces féroces soldats?
Ils viennent jusque dans nos bras
Égorger nos fils, nos compagnes!

Aux armes, citoyens!
Formez vos bataillons
Marchons, marchons!
Qu'un sang impur
Abreuve nos sillons!


English translation:

Arise, children of the Fatherland
The day of glory has arrived
Against us tyranny's
Bloody banner is raised
Do you hear, in the countryside
The roar of those ferocious soldiers?
They're coming right into your arms
To cut the throats of your sons, your women!

To arms, citizens!
Form your battalions
Let's march, let's march
Let an impure blood
Water our furrows!
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 17 Nov 15 10:59
Phookin 'ell they talk (well, sing) a good fight don't they!

Bloodthirsty b'strds!
By:
dustybin
When: 17 Nov 15 12:03
yesterday's session in parliament was almost comical as politician after politician stood 'to say to the French people only this' (I shall say dis honely vonce) then proceeded to give some french in an english accent. They all seemed to have one they'd been practicing all weekend in an attempt to get theirs into a soundbite.
By:
themover
When: 17 Nov 15 12:07
of course the English are well known for their love of France
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 17 Nov 15 12:16
You know that when a politician does it, it's just cringeworthy.

But - and I doubt it will happen on the mass scale they envisage - I think there's something vaguely noble and open-hearted about a bunch of English football fans attempting 'La Marseillaise' (not getting sniffy about it here; I'd be a bloody embarrassment if I tried it)
By:
elise
When: 17 Nov 15 12:24
french anthem is a bit like the italian, a rousing chorus that sounds fantastic especially when the tanks are in reverse
By:
dustybin
When: 17 Nov 15 12:42
I believe the people would have done something symbolic anyway.
Im a little disappointed tbh that attempts have been made to orchestrate a reaction, it should have been a decision for the people to make, interfering in that strips away the sentiment
By:
rogerthebutler
When: 17 Nov 15 12:52
Yeah - I'm usually against orchestration and systematisation of grief but on this occasion, given it's the first major international cultural occasion involving France after the tragedy of last Friday, that this has got some momentum.

Like I said, embarrassment will probably get the better of the (English) supporters - but I hope not.
By:
Stow_judge
When: 17 Nov 15 13:28
There's a good number of French people who work for the same company as me. They are all really nice people!
They are one of our closest neighbourinos after all!
By:
RickiBobby
When: 17 Nov 15 13:59
Good to show an act of solidarity with France whilst they are going through a traumatic time.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 17 Nov 15 14:10
showing Emmanuelle clips half-time
By:
dunlaying
When: 17 Nov 15 14:15
I agree with Dustybin.
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Nov 15 14:22
Nobody who is English or French should sing either national anthem. Our politicians and many of our fellow citizens are trying to destroy us, to sing the anthem, either one, would be an act of treachery.
By:
xmoneyx
When: 17 Nov 15 14:30
act of treacheryExcitedDevil
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Nov 15 14:36
To clarify, I don`t believe the English should sing the English, or French anthem. And also the Frech should not sing the Marseillaise or the British anthem.
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 17 Nov 15 14:49
dont mention french fries to the yanks....wasnt too long ago they wanted them banned.

i wonder what the fans will be singing tonight....1.01 no surrender
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 17 Nov 15 14:58
free EU flags available at all turnstiles tonight and don't forget to hum along to Ode an die Freude
By:
lfc1971
When: 17 Nov 15 15:04
How do you know you can trust the person standing beside you?
By:
Foinavon
When: 17 Nov 15 16:19
It was kind of tictacman to post the words of la Marseillaise for those who don't know them.
Unfortunately there is already an anglicised version in the form of a rugby song which many will already know. Perhaps the authorities are unaware of this. Could be embarrassing.
By:
johnizere
When: 17 Nov 15 16:20
LFC...To clarify, I don`t believe the English should sing the English, or French anthem. And also the Frech should not sing the Marseillaise or the British anthem.

oh dear...
By:
xmoneyx
When: 17 Nov 15 16:51
PM now going Blush
By:
mecca
When: 17 Nov 15 17:21
This will probably be the only time that the pre match national anthems will get bigger viewing figures than the actual football match.......

BTW. Max bet on France win.
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