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Paris... wtf?
Paris... wtf?
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It is not about capatilism, it is about building peaceful countries that respect the freedom of the individual. Human rights are universal and there are different political ideals, and religious...but peace and the right to life and freedom of expression and democratic values are universal...if these countries cannot start to understand then the fault is theirs.
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here we have a direct attack on a 'democratic' country - peaceful civilians killed by the dozen by Islamists who hate the west and its various secular status. Until we understand that Islam is counter to that and we have been at war with it for a very long time, we understand very little. We are all dirt as infidels and have no rights. Please understand this is the normal veiwpoint of a good muslim.
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The question is by admitting their are differences between the two should we have assumed it was a worthwhile concept to instill our values if their were different?
To say it has nothing to do with capitalism is wrong, since our politicans couldnt give a phook about the well being other than euphemism used from time to time to show they are humans, the reason they were interested in those countries was the money holed up in em. Wernt so sharpe sorting the rest of the genocides in mainland africa were we? |
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Don't be diverted by all this chat about assets etc. If the western imperialists had done nothing in 100 years you will have still had the islamic problem.
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the biggest issue here is western foreign policy. the US, GB and the west are utterly clueless and short term in all their foreign policies. The west see middle easterners as great people who somehow have the misfortune of living under dictatorships. The truth is the complete opposite. People in general get the leaders they deserve. Hussein, Gadaffi etc came to power because the citizens they ruled allowed it.
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well theres truth in that mobo, youd likely still have the 'difference' issue and people are cautious of difference so some nutters would still have done some things.
But giving them a common enemy cant have helped with the numerous occasions the 'west' abused them in one form or another |
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now we are off to africa to divert and obfuscate good one!!!
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I have money to make today so I cant keep on here right now
but africa wasnt that at all, I could have asked why the Syrian war has gone on so long and Libya wasnt at war....or Ukraine, if morals were pennies wed be skint cos they arnt holding russia to account |
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alun2005
alun2005 14 Nov 15 12:38 Joined: 11 Jan 02 | Topic/replies: 27,995 | Blogger: alun2005's blog ISIS told us they were going to get their people into Europe via the Pretendy Migrant route, and they have clearly been as good as their word. They knew there was a generation of dumb politicians, media luvvies, and the Human Rights Industry all in place to make that process easy. The voices of the concerned citizen were dismissed as 'racist', 'narrow' 'bitter' etc. There is even one poster on the Chit Chat Forum who vowed he would offer his home to a "Refugee", sight unseen, even if there was no way of knowing whether said 'refugee' was a Wannabe Terrorist or an Actual Rapist. Apparently, it's the only 'moral and humanitarian' thing to do. |
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Racingqueen is correct up to a point. The problem is we are very lucky in the west and our democracy and freedoms are not something that were guaranteed. There is a very good chance that everything can be destroyed...many people, a very high percentage are insane, in Britain and in some countries it is a very big medical problem.
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davey boy wants to listen to your grannys emails and all the security spooks on tv say the terrorists are now relying on written notes,word of mouth carrier pigeons , etc LOL
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Given the governments will not reverse this multiculturalism, its only a matter of time before something more serious happens.
Western societies are being forced together with people who are made to internalise their own personal conflict, that may be due to race or religion. While it will be difficult for these people to organise themselves into an effective conventional armed force, when we look at other attack vectors like biological warfare or I.T. systems linked to strategic areas, it only takes for a privatised company to let in the wrong person and thousands will be annihilated. |
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The ease with which they have arrested someone in germany makes you wonder how they manage to do it so quickly and what they already knew.
I smell a rat. Looks like they knew but didn't bother - now it is a big intelligence fk up?? |
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More SHOOTINGS now been reported in Paris
Its the wild west now |
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Wedding party causative of further terrorism in Paris
where is Kay Burley when you need her? |
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crags 13 Nov 15 21:46 Joined: 06 May 10 | Topic/replies: 5,935 | Blogger: crags's blog
It's probably just kids. What a complete 1diot you are. |
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http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/world/2015/11/14/Police-Syrian-passport-found-near-body-of-one-of-the-suicide-bombers-.html
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Why would he be carrying a passport?
That stinks I'm afraid. Bit like when the Yanks 'found' a passport of one of the hijackers on the ground after 9/11. The strong possibility is that these nutters were French nationals. And that goes right to the heart of the immigration **** up. |
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You have to carry official French id papers or a passport at all times in France... maybe he didn't want to answer any awkward questions en route as French police can stop people at any time.
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yes of course it could be planted but how about the quick arrest in germany does that not stink of german prevarication !!?? blood on their hands and all that - didn't want to upset the community
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yes of course it could be planted but how about the quick arrest in germany does that not stink of german prevarication !!?? blood on their hands and all that - didn't want to upset the community
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what happened to the people that shot up the restuarnts? ar they in hiding? I didnt see any rports of them being arresedted or blowig themselve up
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could be wanting to wrestle back control due to the seriousness of the event, cant have time passing with no arrests
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GRANTCKING 14 Nov 15 13:21
what happened to the people that shot up the restuarnts? ar they in hiding? I didnt see any rports of them being arresedted or blowig themselve up Possibly the first stop before they moved onto the theatre ? |
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worry about the semantics later, the press need copy
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They ended up in paradise after murdering lots more people at a concert in the Bataclan.
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I don't know why these suicide bombers are so obsessed with meeting virgins - experienced women are much better.
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virgins wont pull you up on 5hity technique
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WARSAW (Reuters) - Poland cannot accept migrants under European Union (EU) quotas after the attacks in Paris, Poland's European affairs minister designate Konrad Szymanski said on Saturday, in a sign that Friday's assault may seriously undermine EU refugee policy.
In a commentary published in the right-leaning news portal wPolityce.pl, Szymanski said his incoming government did not agree with Poland's commitment to accept its share of an EU-wide relocation of immigrants, and now, "in the face of the tragic acts in Paris, we do not see the political possibilities to implement (this)." |
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FRENCH NATIONAL CONFIRMED as one of the attackers! Let's close our boarders to these immigrants, yeah, that'll stop it. Oh, hang on..
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poland will be an empty country as most polish live here now!
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where did u see that hams
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CNN fingerprints obtianed.
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weird
put in anything paris/france twitter--it crashes |
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money thats just you sent france/paris to Jihadi as they are stealing data
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CNN iReportVerified account @cnnireport 4m4 minutes ago
After #ParisAttacks, the world turns blue, white and red for France: http://cnn.it/1kUTfOD works for me , im not on twitter though |
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I will give it 24 hours before some clown pops up and blames it all on the CIA or Mossad trying to discredit Islam.
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You've got to love how no matter what happens in the world, certain types of peole always try and turn it around and blame it on the US or the West.
If "the west" liberated Denmark from a dictator a decade ago, they sure as hell wouldn't be attacking us for it, they'd be rebuilding and gratsful. Place the blame where the blame lies - with people across 1000s of miles of the world who like doing this sort of thing as they believe a book of mad fairytales tells them to. |
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And RacingQueen is spot on.
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