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Paris... wtf?
Paris... wtf?
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http://www.buzzfeed.com/shamisivasubramanian/waleed-alys-powerful-speech-following-the-paris-attacks-is-a#.bjyKZvBWGy
well worth a look |
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good stuff xm - cheers
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so if you believe the media and security loons these are hardened ,elite trained terrorists,mind you in the last 36 hrs one has managed to get stopped at a road block released and looks like captured again not exactly lord lucan his he,them 2 women on that hunted show managed to survive for a week in the uk[ an island] with the cream of the uk,s surveilance after them
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most serious terrorist attacks have been westerners converted fed off Internet
pilots 9/11 London bombings France/Paris |
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therino,
It has got the financial elites that control the world via banking corporations and politicians exactly where they want to be. Thousands of deaths on both sides doesn't matter to them. They are richer than ever before and America still has the largest military and Saudi petrodollar system. That's all that matters. We count for nothing. We are just slaves for production and profit. |
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good news
LONDON—Gold prices were higher on the London spot market Monday |
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french police don't carry pepper spray
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/16/us-france-shooting-brussels-idUSKCN0T50VD20151116?utm_source=twitter#jpA4C1fOqLtH5rZT.97 |
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F*ck the mainstream media ****s and lies..this guy comes as close to the truth as anyone you will ever hear.
Political author Gearoid O Colmain discusses the Paris attacks with RT International. Published on 15 Nov 2015 . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7GAbVhjTSw |
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That chap in the video said IS was made up by the US Govt!
Nothing to do with mad Muslim extremists wanting to take over the world then. |
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jihadi direct hit mortar while on camera
http://buzzpo.com/graphic-jihadist-is-mid-interview-when-mortar-strike-lands-directly-on-him/?utm_content=bufferdfcf0&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=positivelyrepublican |
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supposedly a US Apache escorting/protecting an IS Convoy
. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f39_1447605151 |
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Ruling elite have underestimated how much sh1t the people will take, and still nothing is done. The atrocities will surely get much worse until they get their much wanted uprising from the indigenous people of the western world. Europe first, then the rest of the world.
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good piece in the Telegraph today by Pakistan's former ambassador to the U.S.
. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11996879/Islams-civil-war-between-medievalists-and-modernisers.html 'The Paris attacks are the culmination of a 200-year-long battle over how Islam should respond to the rise of Western power' |
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It may be a Christian WI splinter group
The WI is the military arm of UKIP mobo, very dangerous death cult,so they say. |
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Polybot the figure in 2001 was 355 with 3295 killed.
My Point is that since the west declared the war on terror the number of terror attacks has risen from 355 to 13500 and the number killed has risen to 32,727.As stated most of these have taken place in muslim countries and the majority killed are muslims. The war on terror hasn't made us safer and it is fair to question whether our policy is the right one. Personally I would get out of the middle east completely and leave them to it. The neighbouring countries have millions of soldiers who can tackle the situation. |
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France to save the world from Muslim terrorists, IS ISIS ISIL.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/11/16/francois-hollande-declares-france-at-war-with-isis_n_8576054.html?ncid=webmail1 France "is at war," declared Francois Hollande on Monday, the president delivering a charged speech following Friday’s attacks in Paris. Speaking to a rare joint sitting of both houses of parliament in Versailles, Hollande said a bill to extend the state of emergency for three months would be tabled this week, while promising he was committed to "not just containing, but destroying" the Islamic State group that claimed responsibility for last week’s massacre. |
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Corbyn has the right idea regarding the way forward but gets ridiculed.
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In an ideal world we could all agree with Corbyn but when dealing with people who kill those in wheelchairs it is hard to negotiate and talk,who do we talk to ?
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mother of suicide bomber said he didn't intend to kill
 http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2015/11/16/mother-of-suicide-bomber-says-his-son-didnt-intend-to-kill-people-in-the-paris-attacks/ |
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To be fair it sounds like he didn't actually kill anyone. Imagine that explanation when they're queuing for their virgins in their so-called heaven.
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Nigel Farage speech tonight
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QH9fvLiGTXI |
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1. he says prob with Muslims in this country
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When extremist groups like ISIS commit an atrocity or make the news, politicians and commentators inevitably lament how Muslims are not doing enough to “speak out” against the crimes carried out in their name. But when Muslims do “speak out” and “condemn,” as they always have, this seems to only reinforce the tendency to blame Muslims collectively. And if one believes that the horrors perpetrated by ISIS are “plainly” in Islam’s sacred texts and that it is “preposterous” to argue that these texts are being distorted, then the notion that a faithful Muslim could be critiquing ISIS in a moral and rational fashion is discarded. He can only be a sympathizer, a hypocrite, or a dupe who is ignorant of the requirements of his own faith.
All of this puts Muslims in a double bind: If they just go about their lives, they stand condemned by those who demand that Muslims “speak out.” But if they do speak out, they can expect to be told that short of declaring their sacred texts invalid, they are fooling themselves or deceiving the rest of us. Muslims are presented with a brutal logic in which the only way to truly disassociate from ISIS and escape suspicion is to renounce Islam altogether. |
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imo the koran should be banned.
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http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/02/what-muslims-really-want-isis-atlantic/386156/
interesting read on this website |
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I ca only speak for myself yomomma. Not in my name is good enough for me. I leave the theologists to discuss the issues.
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Not that dissimilar to the double negative that was saddams sexed up WMD then?? To prove he didn't have them he would have needed to provide them. Treetop Is a person in a wheelchair now worth more than an able bodied person? |
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Whilst the attacks on Friday were appalling, and all the gestures of solidarity and periods of silence etc are right and proper, it does seem unusual that our collective public grief is dependent on the geography of the atrocity.
Eg, in 2004, 192 people were killed in the Madrid train bombings but there wasn't the level of blanket coverage we get after Paris. One wonders if we'd all be singing the Spanish anthem if were playing Spain the week after that. Or if we were playing Russia the week after the plane bombing over Egypt. Nobody appears to be comparably outraged when these type of cowardly suicide attacks take place on a weekly basis in middle east countries. Would this dominate the news agenda in the same way if this had happened in Turkey? Or the Czech Republic? Or Switzerland? Or the Netherlands? I'm not trying to downgrade or trivialise the gravity of events; merely wondering if we only care enough in direct proportion to how close to home it happens. |
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http://johnpilger.com/articles/from-pol-pot-to-isis-anything-that-flies-on-everything-that-moves-
excellent article by John Pilger |
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My Point is that since the west declared the war on terror the number of terror attacks has risen from 355 to 13500 and the number killed has risen to 32,727
a number of serious problems with this use of data, an obvious one is the absence of data on deaths occurring under saddam (by the standing army of 400,000, republican guard of 75,000, and all the intell agencies and police many of whom now are part of isis and its leadership). so if two innocent civilians were shot dead in mosul 10 years apart by the same person, you'd only count the later one. the reverse of this would be to include current killings in assad's syria, you could possibly argue the technicalities to justify it but these are obvious and intentional distortions. you could argue the hundreds of thousands of death under saddam (or north korea, etc) don't count because they are hidden or classified differently, but that debunks the notion that your point is humanitarian in any way. given that the likes of isis and aq now hold physical territory, you could possibly even make the argument the conflicts involving the iraqi and syrian states are in fact wars, not entirely dissimilar to the iran/iraq war, and therefore most or many aren't acts of terrorism at all, but actions of war or war crimes. though only if you prefer statistical technicalities over more rational views. |
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Thanks for putting that link up xmoney..brilliant speech by Mr Farage.Any indigenous Brit would find it impossible to disagree.
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In ordinary terms I would say not but in humane terms it says a lot about the killers don't you think ? Lining such defenceless people up and mowing them down is undeserving of any sympathy and merits a shoot-to-kill policy for me. I look forward to the saturday news quiz when all the left wing comedians on the BBC ridicule Jezza for his sentiments.And pigs might fly. |
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But the killers killed with impunity, the fact so many died who by logic suggests couldnt escape says that.
Why the press need to highlight the fact (some) were handicapped beats me. Kitten lovers too I suspect. |
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farage speech falls down on the fact that for all his gesturing and nudge ,nudge about muslims in this country for all the attacks in france,charlie hebdo,jewish supermarket,train attack,friday n ight,etc,etc all happening a 100 miles away no british based people have been proved to have taking part
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Islam is not compatable with british society or law. It really is that simple. Start from there and understand where a good muslim stands.
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750,000 muslims moved to USA since 9/11
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I'm not sure I follow your logic there 1st timer. Are you saying that there aren't people in this country trying to make what happened in France a reality in this country?
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Awesome from Farage. Thanks for the link. He's light years ahead of Cameron and May.
He was given the briefest of interviews this morning on Radio 5. Nicky Cambell's tone was of so sour it was as if Farage had killed his cat. It was pitiful. |
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xmoneyx,
Where did you get those statistics from.? |
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unlikely place dambuster
telegraph on this guys twitter feed https://twitter.com/RichardAngell |