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Was there no screening process this year?
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need a few idiots to lose in first few weeks
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No dopes = No Show.
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All that work for £1.87 profit
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£1.87? That's more than I'd pay Jack Dee for this performance
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just watching it on iplayer now.
by the opening credits, i've come to the conclusion that it's jumped the shark. they don't believe the nonsense soundbites someone else has written for them, they're just saying them like a dancing monkey. |
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this guy fired seems a top bloke, he more than held his own on the youre fired program,
indeed he made the show as the guests were struggling a plant perhaps, i cant believe he couldnt sell a single item, even when reduced ? |
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a plant perhaps, i cant believe he couldnt sell a single item, even when reduced ?
I think we've seen this scenario before, where someone running an online business can't sell face-to-face. The tourist board will have been pleased by the London porn in the opening sequence but it did go on a bit too long; the extracts from future tasks contained spoilers, since any candidates seen are obviously safe from firing this week. It was ironic that Versatile went from terror at the prospect of being PM to then ignoring the actual PM and all trying to run the task themselves: power without responsibility. For the other lot, April imposed her own choices but ignored the suggestion from her teammate that they cost the dishes. She did the same at the market where she bought from the first stall she saw. |
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The winning team made about £200 which is about £20 per person per 15-hour day, which is hardly a viable business, though I guess it beats £1.87 for the other lot.
The bit I did not understand was Brett's insistence that the oversized fish cakes met the specification, but it was never explained where the spec came from. |
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Someone should've told Brett that they were fishcakes, not aircraft components
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Power-dressed 'wannabee-alphas' whose self-belief is inversely proportional to their ability to actually deliver.
Will play along with the whole, pathetic, 'mug it up for the cameras' charade whilst the more clued up viewer will understand that if they are as half as good and clever as they think they are, they would have approached and been taken on by a venture capitalist and be actually doing their p1ssant 'what the world is waiting for' load of old toot already. |
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perfectly summed up rog
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I have real life experience of this phenomenon
I used to work with Sarah Dales, the woman who tried to sell a mop and bucket to London Zoo for £250, amongst other crimes |
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I did, however, think the nicoise salad was tremendous value.
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@rogerthebutler -- the more clued up viewer will understand that
Three quarters are there because they want a career on telly like Saira Khan, Kate Walsh etc (and a previous year's failure has just won CBB). |
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i see the fired person is an oxford graduate and labour party activist
nearly bankrupted mam and dad with a 50k loss last year setting up business, yet mam and dad hold directorships all over the place i still reckon any mug could sell a salad for a quid at close of play when stock is being liquidated, although flogging it for 9 quid was a task worthy of a top salesperson his interview after did suggest a career in media awaits, imo |
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Ramruma
15 Oct 15 09:33 Joined: 11 Dec 02 | Topic/replies: 6,921 | Blogger: Ramruma's blog The winning team made about £200 which is about £20 per person per 15-hour day, which is hardly a viable business, though I guess it beats £1.87 for the other lot. I've been banging on about this for years. Also, in the real world they would have had to pay for use of the kitchen, hire of the van they were selling from and the pitches they were selling from. |
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The bit I did not understand was Brett's insistence that the oversized fish cakes met the specification, but it was never explained where the spec came from.
I think spec was an instruction from the PM (can't recall her name) |
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Ramruma
15 Oct 15 09:33 Joined: 11 Dec 02 | Topic/replies: 6,921 | Blogger: Ramruma's blog the extracts from future tasks contained spoilers, since any candidates seen are obviously safe from firing this week. Something else that I've ranted about before. These clips are shown at the beginning of each episode. Would have thought they'd just show extracts from the forthcoming task. |
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The guy who was fired seemed to be the only likeable one among the whole 18.
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Like many reality TV shows, this one has become a caricature (or a parody) of itself. It started out as an interesting experiment to find a dynamic young business professional (even Big Brother started as an interesting social experiment on human behaviour), but has allowed itself to morph into a pre-scripted "entertainment" show, where the most extroverted egotistical loudmouth wins regardless of talent or potential.
And just as with the instant (and short-lived) fame accorded to winners of X-Factor and the like, it gives youngsters the false impression that you can set up and run a business in the space of 24 hours. Anyone with even the most fleeting knowledge of business knows that it takes months of planning, research, development and investment to even get a minimum viable product off the ground, and it can take months, if not years, to start yielding a profit. Yet we're expected to believe that 24 people living in the same house, can be awoken at 2am, sent to a fish market, then be out selling a finished product inside the space of a morning. Of course, someone else would have had to organise the transport, equipment, kitchens, van hire, signage, licence to trade, facility to take cash & card payment, waste management, uniforms etc etc. Competent people might be able to turn round that sort of small operation inside a week or two, but inside of a few hours? What a load of horsesh!t. Well past it's sell by date - and I don't just mean the fish. |
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you're doing the program an injustice; one found out last night what an onion was, without the show he'd have gone through life never knowing ....
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It's not meant to be a serious business programme.It's an entertainment show,and as such it succeeds.It's definitely entertaining.
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name your winner, at this stage.
Jenny or Scott for me. Can't believe the plumber is 8/13 fav on here  |
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I enjoy the disparity between the rhetoric and reality which is thrown up every season. It's like some bellend rants on about Casanova being second rate compared to them and how they are the mag daddy of love with none of that 15 minutes shiit because they can rattle all night taking chicks to heaven and back. Then the camera pans down to see a great big wet **** stain on their pants because they've caught a glimpse of a girl bending over.
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Aisha getting fired was the correct decision. Ghastly woman. Bit disappointed so far with Claude Littner, who seems rather restrained considering he's been given enough material to lay into a few of them.
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As a stand alone episode last nights was one of the worst I have ever seen imo.
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Aisha certainly one of the worst PMs I've ever seen. Seemed to have been born without ears.
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until you have a sense for the business plan the majority of these shows are just fck ups for entertainment, jenny is clearly intelligent and probably a finalist, looking at their backgrounds vana might be the dark horse
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Saw last nights show. From what I remember the last series had a different actor playing Lord Sugars characters sidekick. Dont think this new guy is so good but the show overall was as funny as ever.
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"....had a different actor playing Lord Sugars characters sidekick." ???
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From what we've seen so far,I think the older woman with the long blonde hair looks the most likely winner.
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Its been apparent for a number of years now that every season around a dozen are there purely for entertainment value, the only ones that cannot see it are the contestants themselves
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".....the only ones that cannot see it are the contestants themselves." Maybe they can see it, but are happy to spend a few weeks living in a luxurious house in London,enjoying the "treats",and appearing on TV etc.
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Treats
 Like that floating yoga b0ll0cks |
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The show now is just Big Brother with tasks done outside the house.
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shame Aisha didn't have the personality to match the looks (amazing how often you get that with women, isn't it?)
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The men's shampoo adverts gave the impression that unlike every other team in Apprentice history, they'd actually seen commercials before so knew how they were supposed to look. Normally teams shoot themselves in the foot by trying to write a comedy sketch or short play, as the women did here ("thanks for the massage, mum").
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I wouldn't underestimate the effect of editing on our perception of events.
The show must be unique in that it is a competition apparently requiring a certain set of attributes, yet the winner is determined by a person who has a completely different agenda based on his vested interest. |
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@Jack Hacksaw -- I wouldn't underestimate the effect of editing on our perception of events.
Editing -- yes. First the edit needs to show viewers how the task was won and lost, and why the person who got fired deserved to be fired. Especially this early where there are too many candidates, any number of positive contributions may be left on the cutting room floor. If a task takes, say, 20 hours, then 2 teams each having 2 camera crews means 80 hours of footage to be edited down to 20 or 30 minutes of task per episode, and apparently even the final boardroom can take all day, where we get to see 10 minutes or so. Second, the edit does not need to, but probably will, try to shape our perceptions of the candidates into reality show stereotypes. |