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05 Oct 15 08:08
Date Joined: 12 Jul 11
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up here Scotland,we have had it over a year

it's amazing what types of bags people will bring into supermarkets

Scotland alone Almost 130 million fewer single-use bags

a guy highlands uses a suitcase to avoid chargesExcited
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Report bix October 5, 2015 8:48 AM BST
No problem paying 5p for a bag if the cash went to charity or a special environmental fund but it seems it's just extra profit for the shops.
Report xmoneyx October 5, 2015 8:54 AM BST
try McDonald's--Excited
Report Dr Crippen October 5, 2015 10:30 AM BST
Many supermarkets abroad won't let you take your own bag into the store.
While in the UK if you took your own bag into the store you stood out and might attract the attention of the store detective.

Now with everybody bringing their own bags the shoplifters should have a field day.
It will certainly take the heat off them.
Report rob_dylan October 5, 2015 10:37 AM BST
A sensible policy for a better Britain.
Report padlock October 5, 2015 11:03 AM BST
Exactly, have a shopping bag you can use often,simple
Report Doctor Feelgood October 5, 2015 11:54 AM BST
I'm gonna buy some Aldi bags and use them at SainsburysShocked
Report Dr Crippen October 5, 2015 12:09 PM BST
5p a bag so what?
We'll just carry on as normal anyway.
Report brendanuk1 October 5, 2015 12:11 PM BST
point is people dont carry on as normal and it cuts use of plastic bags dramatically
Report i_agree_with_nick October 5, 2015 12:31 PM BST
It may be 5p today but who's to say next year it won't be 20p? Plain
Report Hound-Dog-2 October 5, 2015 12:35 PM BST
This 5p for a plastic bag is going to bring chaos to the pricing structure in Poundland. Angry
Report HH Sultan Vinegar October 5, 2015 12:36 PM BST
I got a free bag for life yesterday in Tesco. It felt like getting on one of the last choppers out of Saigon.
Report Ovalman. October 5, 2015 12:39 PM BST
We've had this tax for 3 years now. While I'm fine with paying it the governemnt aren't transparent on where the funds are going. If it's a green tax then it should be used for green issues.
Report Ovalman. October 5, 2015 12:40 PM BST
Oh and more profit for Tesco's as you won't get the green points for re-using your own bags.
Report HH Sultan Vinegar October 5, 2015 12:46 PM BST
heard today that someone had found a discarded brand new England rugby shirt in a plastic bag.

FFS don't people realise plastic bags are worth 5p now?
Report bix October 5, 2015 1:09 PM BST
Cuts down on plastic shopping bags but as a lot of people use the bags in their waste bin it will mean more plastic wastebin bags sold.
Report xmoneyx October 5, 2015 1:37 PM BST
my bag for life asda lasted till the car park
Report lfc1971 October 5, 2015 1:50 PM BST
It is creating desease and risks food poisoning, what a filthy place Britain is...i do not want people bringing their disgusting bags into the food counter.
Report lfc1971 October 5, 2015 1:52 PM BST
They have their bags weapped up in their trouser they go to the toilets.
Report i_agree_with_nick October 5, 2015 2:19 PM BST
Rob - did you have a post removed? Something about feckless feckers?

Not surprised - dreadful misuse of language. Surely someone who is feckless is by definition without feck.
Report alun2005 October 5, 2015 2:31 PM BST
Wales has had the 5p a bag experiment in progress for several years now. And I personally haven't experienced any complaints from the shops when you bring your own bag. The supermarkets actually encourage it by selling you what they optimistically call "A Bag for Life" for around 15p.
Report i_agree_with_nick October 5, 2015 2:35 PM BST
I acquired a bag for life 15 years ago when I got married.
Report dustybin October 5, 2015 2:35 PM BST
The point of plastic bag reduction is fine, but shops introduced the plastic bag not consumers ffs.
What is more supermarkets arnt committed to the reduction themselves, if you purchased homeshopping you would always get around 5 individual items in separate bags not withstanding raw meat simply because it was more important for the shops to profit by having an inefficient pick routine.
No customer would put single items into individual bags.
Its just further kowtowing to enterprise.
Report rob_dylan October 5, 2015 2:42 PM BST****-cant-wait-to-...
Report lfc1971 October 5, 2015 2:43 PM BST
We are using more plastic bags than ever before. People need to line their kitchen bins and would use supermarket bags for this, nothing was wasted. Now you need to buy plastic bags just for all these everyday uses....there has been an increase in plastic bag production since this tax was brought in, the government are manipulating the figures as always.
Report ebulGery October 5, 2015 2:54 PM BST
i_agree_with_nick  • October 5, 2015 2:35 PM BST 

I acquired a bag for life 15 years ago when I got married.

Report lfc1971 October 5, 2015 2:59 PM BST
Listen carefully to what government spokespeople and green campainers say, use of plastic bags down 70, 80% 90% in Scotkand, Irekand. Someoneis telling fibs....have we heaed manufacturers ofbags complain? no, they know what is happening and are not  to be troubled.
Report sidthekid October 6, 2015 4:56 PM BST
One shop I use has showed common sense by replacing their "Tissue Thin" plastic bag with a Stronger one for 5p,
meanwhile the ethical shop oc-po, still uses these thin bags for 5 pence and shoppers can be seen walking down the road or to their car with the laundry powder boxes and microwave meal boxes, tearing their way out of the bag and shopping being strewn around FFS CryCry
Report dustybin October 6, 2015 5:14 PM BST
what happens at the self check outs?
do you have to ask a passing supervisor like fooking oliver twist?
Report jamesdean October 6, 2015 5:19 PM BST
They have bags stacked up at the self checkouts. You have to type in how many bags you have used and they charge you the required amount.
Report dustybin October 6, 2015 5:45 PM BST
that'll be open to abuse....unless they look out for plastic bag theft ffs
Report Coachbuster October 6, 2015 6:58 PM BST
should be £1 a bag , 5p is a  worthless amount
Report sidthekid October 6, 2015 7:38 PM BST
Then the shoppers would be going in with their 50-90 Litre heavy duty plastic bag with handles,
10 for a £1 LaughLaugh
Report billybongo October 6, 2015 8:27 PM BST
Why have they never introduced paper bags like in usa
Report Tommy Toes October 6, 2015 8:31 PM BST
Tesco have been delivering veg and fruit in strong paper bags (with handles) since about the turn of the year in Stoke.

Perhaps they'll go a step further and start providing them for everything?
Report Tommy Toes October 6, 2015 8:52 PM BST
It's the online delivery men I feel sorry for if the customers have opted out of their goods being delivered in bags.

How long is it going to take a customer to unpack their crates by hand, especially if they have the delivery at the door?
Then, it will be the delivery men who'll get it in the neck for being late on their scheduled deliveries.

Tesco informed me by email that they will be making a standard extra 40p charge on all deliveries if you ask for bags.

Well, I'm not paying that - so will have my deliveries without bags.
However, wheras it now takes just a few minutes to pick up the bags from my back door and take them into the kitchen, it will take a considerably longer time.

I always return my plastic bags on the next delivery to the driver anyway - thus am creating no waste.
I'll just be creating extra time now - and hope the delivery drivers don't suffer for it.
Report doantwin2easy October 6, 2015 9:02 PM BST
forced to carry my booze out by hand today, in plain sight, at a busy petrol station.

they've not thought the humiliation factor through at all.
Report Tommy Toes October 6, 2015 9:03 PM BST
Report Ibrahima Sonko October 6, 2015 9:05 PM BST
Need a brown paper bag.
Report Zazu October 6, 2015 9:12 PM BST
I don't understand why you wouldn't carry on as normal unless you were an absolute peasant.

Few item man shop, max 3 bags. Hardly need to notify the bank manager over 15p
Report doantwin2easy October 6, 2015 9:26 PM BST
it's the offer to double bag that I'm worried about. That will just be sheer profiteering.
Report MC Roller October 6, 2015 10:15 PM BST
Thank god there are less plastic bags about, our planet has been saved in the nick of time. Well done to all concerned.
Report dustybin October 7, 2015 4:28 AM BST
Yeah, by rewarding the very companies who introduced em in the first place and hoping they don't just pocket the cash.

Tommy is correct, it's something I considered about home shopping.
The drivers are already tracked by sat and they certainly will be the ones punished over extra time taken to unload, and the tortes want the unions nobbled so they can't do anything about it.

The supermarkets already advertise manipulative horse5hit with their price comparisons that are akin to marking their own homework, they want you to use self check outs so they don't need to bother paying somebody to do it, they front sell booze with abandon and have homogenised every city in the land.

It's sloppy policy to simply keep hitting individuals so enterprise can do all they need to profit.
Report bigmo October 7, 2015 6:07 AM BST
I've just suffocated my wife.

Best 5p I've ever spent.
Report Tommy Toes October 7, 2015 6:09 AM BST
Report i_agree_with_nick October 7, 2015 12:12 PM BST
Re paper bags: I understand that McDonalds charge for their paper bags in drive thrus. (Not sure if this is UK-wide or just Wales/Scotland)

Also, it has been suggested that although they have a lower environmental impact in the context of disposal, their production is more environmentally damaging than that of plastic bags.
Report sidthekid October 14, 2015 11:03 AM BST
A Woman in M&S last Friday was at the counter with over £100 worth of clothes, woman serving her Demanded she pay 10 pence for a Quality bag, just in case you have to bring one of your items back, We don't want it returned in a bag You have had your fruit, veg, meat or fish in, the Shopper left All the clothes on the counter and walked out!!.

Long Queues in Poundland, 5p for a bag that might last 100 meters before splitting, or 10p for a better quality bag, But the till girls are only used to giving £Pounds as change, even though the till machine tells them what change to give, they are still struggling to keep up, anyone would think they Never do maths at School.

1 Month ago when you bought 5 items at the co op, they asked would you like a bag(free) - "No I will juggle my shopping for the Mile walk up the road", now when you buy 3 items and its 5p for a bag that might last 100 meters before splitting- "Shall I double bag it for you" FFS
Report kenny mann October 14, 2015 11:27 AM BST
All a fuss over nothing. Stick the appropriate number of bags in your pocket before you leave home. When bags get dirty buy some more. Cost about £1 a year!
Report sidthekid October 14, 2015 11:32 AM BST

Security tags have been put on baskets at a Tesco store in Oldham after a third of them were stolen in the week carrier bag charges were brought in.
A spokesman for the Chadderton store confirmed it introduced security tagging after a spate of thefts.
On 4 October, a 5p charge was brought in for carrier bags in larger retailers across England.
The supermarket said basket thefts rose massively last week.
Some Tesco stores in London have begun security tagging plastic bags to prevent thefts.
Report Shrewd_dude October 14, 2015 3:37 PM BST
Saves the supermarkets millions.
Report dustybin October 14, 2015 5:09 PM BST
It's an absolute balls up.
I received a home delivery from tescos the other day and was sent 18 bags.
I rang them to inquire firstly why returning the same number of bags doesn't cancel the charge or give credit since the bags are now currency.
I was told that they never did that but will take the bags off you for free.
I said so you charge when you give them out but expect them to be given back for free?
She said it was the law, so I said you sent 18 bags and charged for 8, so you arnt fulfilling your duty there either.
I then said if the bag is a problem taking the same number of bags back to the number that is given out cancels the problem.
She said the money goes to a local initiative in your area.
But I said, but you wouldn't need to if the bags get cancel as there's no net excess.
She was puzzled.
I then said why did I get five bags with only one item in each? Crisps and crumpets etc.
She said it's because that's the way they do it.
I said the landscape has changed so what are you going to do about it
She was puzzled again.

It's complete bobbins, the supermarkets should be held accountable.
Report Dr Crippen October 14, 2015 5:28 PM BST
The little dog laughed to see such fun.
Report Shrewd_dude October 14, 2015 5:42 PM BST
What do you expect? It's basically been the supermarkets idea to bring all this in. They get to save millions of pounds, get there customers to give them money to give to charities and then get to brag about all the money they have given to charity.

The whole idea for this to be established in the UK was born by M and S when they started to charge for their food hall bags. They saved about £ 8 million a year on bag production costs then gave the other £8 million profit to charitable causes and advertised that they were green and eco friendly and gave millions of pounds to charity.

Not a surprise the other supermarket wanted a cut of it as well. The supermarkets would have likely all brought this in themselves if it wasn't legislated for.
Report sidthekid October 14, 2015 5:47 PM BST
""She said the money goes to a local initiative in your area""

Going to finance the Food banks might be a Better idea Whoops
Report sidthekid October 14, 2015 5:47 PM BST
""She said the money goes to a local initiative in your area""

Going to finance the Food banks might be a Better idea Whoops
Report iamajambo October 14, 2015 7:05 PM BST
VAT,i.e. one pence per bag goes to the Government,evil Tory bastards.Devil
Report Pokermonster October 14, 2015 11:49 PM BST
I applaud the idea, but supermarkets should charge £1 per bag rather than five pence.
Report Pokermonster October 14, 2015 11:50 PM BST
The bag offered being of superior quality, I forgot to add.
Report Hamsterdam October 15, 2015 12:10 AM BST
Stick the appropriate number of bags in your pocket before you leave home

Who wants to walk around with carrier bags in their pocket like a tramp? Are you Scottish or something?
Report greenup October 15, 2015 12:56 AM BST
There's a hole at the bottom of the bag so you don't suffocate yourself...
Report greenup October 15, 2015 12:56 AM BST
Two holes
Report Shrewd_dude October 15, 2015 1:15 AM BST
I applaud the idea, but supermarkets should charge £1 per bag rather than five pence.

Tesco shareholder hoping to get his money back.
Report greenup October 15, 2015 1:18 AM BST
Its the first time ive walk past security with chicken bres
Report greenup October 15, 2015 1:21 AM BST
breast in my front pockets and turkey drummers in my back pockets... ive got got big pockets by the way.
Report dustybin October 15, 2015 10:21 AM BST
The idea of 1 quid a bag is ludicrous.
I'm all for people being more responsible when considering the impact of their actions when they go into a large retailer who wants them to spend spend spend and take home as much as they can carry. Remembering to put the bags for life back in the car for next time is a small change and easily accomplished.
However that luxury doesn't apply to all circumstances, some people don't have cars for a kick off and then there is the whole home shopping fiasco.
The bottom line here is that politicians don't have the b ollocks to do the right things here, hold the very people to account who mass produce and implement these bags, and the retailers themselves have always been the guilty ones for not coming up with a viable alternative to the problem they created.

Taking money from customers does have some effect, but it doesn't address the problem at source, and the concept of taking a payment to dissuade usage to then fund something to help eradicate is so fraught with issues it's also plain daft.
The funding mechanism is fraught with inefficiencies, the money poorly used and lost along the way.

What is wrong with the value of the bag being retained and the returning of the bags to cancel what have been used with any not getting returned being the ones that then cost people?
Supermarkets are making their own agendas, saying its the law that defines their actions, then making up their own distinctions regarding home shopping simply on the basis that they can't be arsed or don't want to have to spend more to eradicate the damage they themselves are creating, but are happy to finger point at their own customers, those they rely on who create the revenue, as if it was the evil customer who started this facade.

I hope people open their eyes, I hope these large corporations lose further market share as a result of poor planning as other retailers get clued up and improve the way they work either forcing the likes of tesco and possibly sainsburys to do the same, or lose out to competition.
Report Coachbuster October 15, 2015 11:36 AM BST
i always have taken my old bags in but get looked at as wildly eccentric at the mini sainsburys    Cry
Report Coachbuster October 15, 2015 11:36 AM BST
yes,i;ve had many an old bag btw
Report dustybin October 15, 2015 11:47 AM BST
If bags retained value then returning them has purpose.
Simply deciding that once they have been 'sold' they then need to be given back is both arrogant and anti progressive if they are serious about the impact on the environment, which ofc they arnt.
Politicians should make them interested.
Report Breedingmad October 15, 2015 12:14 PM BST
Save the world pay 5p for a plastic bag Laugh
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