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jed.davison
23 Sep 15 12:24
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Have been looking for a job lately, quite a few of the jobs I would otherwise apply for require either an understanding or in most cases a command of Search Engine Optimisation.

Has anyone got any experience of this?

Further, how hard is it to master, and could one just bluff one's way through it (my preferred option)???

All help gratefully received, thanks in advance.
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Report i_agree_with_nick September 23, 2015 12:41 PM BST
There seem to be a lot of people out there making a lot of money out of SEO.

Whenever I talk to someone about the possibilty of redisigning my website, they always seem more interested in selling me SEO services.
Report Platini September 23, 2015 1:34 PM BST
It's not difficult to bluff your way through it. That's what 99% of people who call themselves SEO experts are doing. The Internet is awash with these amateurs who spout 2nd hand, 3rd hand information that's out-dated, ineffective or downright dangerous. Almost everywhere you look you'll see mis-informed and over-generalized guff about how to rank on Google.

If you're serious about learning the basics I can direct to a few sources of decent info.
Report mememe September 23, 2015 1:43 PM BST
Modern term ... made up, no logic.

Just marketing smoke and mirrors.

It's all about putting words and phrases in your web-site that gets it to the front of Google searches.
Or you can pay Google for that and not bother with the SEO carp.

Best way to get attention to web-site is to include words like ...

naked,  lustful,  busty,  you get the trend ...

Always works for me when I'm searching the net for something.

HTHLaughLaugh
Report i_agree_with_nick September 23, 2015 1:53 PM BST
I thought that if you have a site selling non sex-related items or services, you have to be careful about using words such as, for example, "topless" as you could be penalised by Google.
Report Platini September 23, 2015 2:06 PM BST
mememe, that's exactly how it worked


...in 1997 Wink
Report mememe September 23, 2015 2:11 PM BST
Platini,

I know you're only joking.

Unless, that is, you believe that Change Management is also something special.
Report jed.davison September 23, 2015 2:34 PM BST
yes Platini, I am serious, any help would be much appreciated. Cheers
Report dave1357 September 23, 2015 3:43 PM BST
here's a thread about it

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/30/business
-finance-investing/seo-what-how-do-we-diy-1445335/
Report jed.davison September 23, 2015 3:56 PM BST
Thanks for that Dave, I've had a read through and I must confess it's double Dutch to me.
Report mememe September 23, 2015 4:00 PM BST
jed

"I must confess it's double Dutch to me"


yep

see my post earlier
And if anybody says it isn't, ask them for a simple explanation in a few sentences.

It's smoke and mirrors stuff.
Report Zazu September 23, 2015 4:10 PM BST
http://searchenginewatch.com/sew/how-to/2259693/seo-basics-8-essentials-when-optimizing-your-site

Why are you applying for a job that involves SEO if you know absolutely nothing about it?
Report jed.davison September 23, 2015 4:24 PM BST
Because I'm looking for writing work and a lot of places want some SEO experience.
Report jed.davison September 23, 2015 4:24 PM BST
Thanks for the links btw.
Report DIE LINKE September 23, 2015 5:00 PM BST
I run a couple of websites and 5 years ago when I set up my first I was inundated by SEO experts. The best was the woman who said she could get me to the top of google for just £8,000 a year!
Report DIE LINKE September 23, 2015 5:51 PM BST
jed, as far as writing goes SEO simply involves sprinkling your prose with the odd phrase which would/could be favourable for google rankings.
Report Zazu September 23, 2015 5:59 PM BST
Its more about getting quality links

If you want to top Google for keywords like 'new car' or 'loan' £8k a year wouldnt get you anywhere near the first page.
Report DIE LINKE September 23, 2015 6:02 PM BST
Zazu, that was just the worst example of the claims made by the SEO charlatans who gave me unsolicited "advice".
Report i_agree_with_nick September 23, 2015 6:17 PM BST
My website's top or in the top three for searches relating to what I sell but that's because I'm in a niche market.

As Zazu says, getting good links helps. It's also good to be metioned with a link on a highly-ranked site.

It can actually be detrimental to have links to dodgy sites on yours.
Report i_agree_with_nick September 24, 2015 9:13 PM BST
^^^^^ Talking about this on BBC4 now.
Report Platini September 25, 2015 11:35 AM BST
Jed, there's a lot of decent info about onsite SEO freely available on places like Moz, Searchenginewatch, serachengineland, webmasterworld.

but I'd recommend you start here :

http://backlinko.com/on-page-seo


Once you're comfortable with onsite SEO, you can turn your attention to offsite. But one step at a time.

Let me know how you get on.
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