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22 Sep 15
15:55
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When I was at school it was drummed into us that spelling and punctuation helped illustrate a grasp of the nuances of the language and by extension intelligence. What I've observed on the internet seems to suggest that either there isn't as much emphasis on such things now or that the internet is a democratising tool allowing pig ignorant dopes equal ability to foist their idiocy on intelligent people.
Which is it?
Which is it?
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If you read you learn to spell correctly.
When I see spelling mistakes it tells me the person does not read. |
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Well I don't no the answer to that.
It's to deep a subject to expect too find an answer in you're top draw! And as the girl, on the phone, at the takeaway always says "Anyfink else"? |
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Our office cleaner drank micardi and coke. Sometimes she switched to volka.
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Silly rules made up in dark ages by monks.
Illogical. We should spell how we speak. i before e except after c, except for weight etc etc. More anomalies than (whatever the opposite to anomaly is) just googled it ... normalities |
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People can find they spell better writing with a pen or pencil. Its not just hitting the wrong letter by mistake, although that happens....there is something in the pen itself that spells correctly and the keypad dosn't
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Ashamed to admit it, but one within my extended family just can't get the "a" & "an" rule!
Eg "a Elephant" and "an Tiger"! Would anyone say that, as it's very awkward, so why write it? |
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Indeed Aunty.
I could of seen you were a man of distinction.  |
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People can find they spell better writing with a pen or pencil.
I can quite imagine this could be correct. Will have to see where the consensus lays. |
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The very physical act of writing with a pen will enable you to spell, it is the pen and its connections to forgotten and dreamlike days at school.
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Indeed Aunty.
When a staff member messaged me "do you no", I thought it was just a brain lapse, but not after the third time! But then I realised it is a regular thing with others. Also it seems to be not just in GB, but across our English speaking cousins. In Halfords yesterday, and a note in front of one till said "Card only as can't open draw"!!! Again that is not uncommon! I really think that schools would be better off, cutting back time spent on such as "Chemistry, Biology, Physics, branches of Mathematics such as "Algebra", "Trigonometry" and fringe subjects, such as I suffered, including "Latin", and preparing the majority of kids for the real world. I've often wondered if there is the same level of ignorance, in none English speaking people. If any of you well traveled guys/gals have experience please post. |
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Have to chuckle at the OP and talk of pronunciation!
Now, no excuses, I have held up my hands, many times, as to not being the best in this area, but I do chuck in a handful of commas before posting! |
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A popular error in shop windows is "Opening times 2.0pm to 12.00am "etc.People don't seem to know that it's either 12 noon,or 12 midnight.12.00am and 12.00pm.don't exist.
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I must confess commas do present difficulty sometimes Aunty but I'm looking for where I've missed them in my opening posts and struggling.
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After reading one of my superb reports my manager emailed me to say "it would have been nice to of seen more data". She also says "aks" and "percific". I am currently looking for other opportunities.
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It's a plot by rich Tory toffs. Don't teach the underclasses about spelling and grammar, so all the best jobs go to the posh kids.
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don't most shorthands have a 1:1 phoneme:grapheme relationship, instead of the nightmare that is English?
It does seem to demonstrate that English is a bit of bugger to learn and read, as anyone who has taught a child should know. The sheer number of different ways of writing the same phoneme, and in particular that one grapheme may correspond to more than one phoneme makes it a royal pain in the arse. |
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It's less important than it used to be, mainly because of the advent of spellcheckers. However, I'm not going to lie, you look like a bit of a muppet if you constantly make errors with your spelling and grammar.
I'm sh*t at dancing, so I accept that if I go onto a dancefloor I'm going to look like a fool. Likewise, if you don't even understand how to use your mother tongue correctly, you're going to look like a fool on an internet forum. |
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Still important EO
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Presumably the OP intended to spell Eeternal in that manner?
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grammar... the difference between knowing your sh1t, and knowing you're sh1t.
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I did indeed Knight and it was quite deliberate.
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The alphabet was a genius invention to help spell words. A to the Z...
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I said to a bird last week, I would rather cuddle then have sex. If you're good with grammar you'll get it.
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when I was at school grammar or dots on an I or t to be crossed did not matter,commas or full stops did not matter.
that was our generation.but I am proud that the generation that came behind us learned from us,as we paided for their education as they grew up and all became grammar doctors.  |
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Presumably the OP intended to spell Eeternal in that manner?
I bet he didn’t mean to spell optometrist like that though. |
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all these guys that got such a good education and they end up posting on a gambling forum,i guess my generation did not do such a good job at educating the next generation after all.
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I think it is important, yes.
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I must confess commas do present difficulty sometimes Aunty
As I admitted, punctuation can be difficult but I do try. Generally, if you have a particularly long sentence, it's pretty certain that it needs breaking up somewhere. I wouldn't insult you by correcting yours, but here are four commas for you to insert where it looks right. , , , , I have a DVD entitled "Eats, shoots, and leaves" which is worth a listen...... . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U14adg1cObk There is a real case where a missed comma cost a company $500,000.00 |
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Bruce Springsteen songs were a beautiful lesson in not using commas. Words tumbled into words with sentences longer than any other writer, some lines as long as an entire verse of most pop songs.
Not content with not using commas Bruce didn't leave any gaps between the words eg "Atnightweplayeditoutonthestreetsofarunawayamericandream" that is how it is sung and can you see how long that song is, even longer if you put spaces between the words. Even songs such as Blinded by the light which Springsteen wrote for other groups do this, Springsteens entire career is built on not using commas. |
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Look and sing the line "at night we played it out on the streets of a runaway amarican dream" and look and sing..."struck up like a duce in the..etcetc( I forget the words :) )
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I get really cross about it. Drives me mad and I think all potential new forum members should have some form of spelling test before they're allowed access.
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No....
But what's more annoying is the finger pointing grammar cops whacking off to the latest spelling indiscretion. |
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Slightly different thing but it is sometimes said you can tell a persons character from their handwriting.
Is it possible they have got this back to front and it is not the syle of writing that reveals the character but the writing style itself that has an influence on producing the character. This may be why past generations were so successful. If you look at schoolwork from a 12 yearold then , and the beautiful writing, maybe the appearance of this on the page and the mental process required to produce it creates the person. |
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Look and sing the line "at night we played it out on the streets of a runaway amarican dream" and look and sing..."struck up like a duce in the..etcetc( I forget the words :) )
surprised you haven't been lynched by a chit chat tedium mob personally i put the exemplary spelling of some chit chatters down to the auto spell checker on their pc, the enormous amount of spare time they have for things like typing slowly and carefully, the willingness to reread their own posts, and the absence of any distractions like critical thinking, imagination, logic etc. a post on chit chat is hardly of importance and if the meaning is obvious or unambiguous it would take a very tedious person to remark on typos, grammar and spelling. a doctoral thesis or similar which attempts complex notions might be a different matter http://nosuchthingasanopinion.yolasite.com/topical-articles00006.php |
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In answer to the OP, it's all three (points)
In summary: It is important as it does illustrate intelligence, although the content and the argument illustrates intelligence more than the spelling and grammar itself. There is less emphasis Bring on the dopes |
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very good post polybot, there is a type of person, one springs to mind (ok i'll name him Alias) who immediately jumps on spelling mistakes, but who has an almost supernatural abilitynot to understand what a sentence actually means...it is as if the words do not register in any logical manner. It is not a case of a difference in view which is fine, but when he corrects spelling and yet dosen't seem to understand what the sentence means its a bit much.
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sippose that should be supernatural ability to not understand, never the less it really is uncanny, everything becomes something else.
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I'll mark that as a typo, rather than a spelling error!.
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Using too many commas in good English is as common a mistake as using too few.
The text should be easy to read and flow along. Wrong use of the comma prevents that. |