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Apart from sharing his initials with Jesus Christ and developing a cult following what else sets him apart?
In my eyes that of a working class Briton living in the North of England, Corbyn is yet another upper middle class London centric elitist, who’s main aim is yet more globalisation.
He has come out with some socialist sound bites, and claims that if in power he wil act upon them. But all know that he will sell out completely on the vast majority, but will return the policies that keep the big business happy.
Open door immigration the EU and elaborate tax incentives.
Same ol Same ol in my opinion
In my eyes that of a working class Briton living in the North of England, Corbyn is yet another upper middle class London centric elitist, who’s main aim is yet more globalisation.
He has come out with some socialist sound bites, and claims that if in power he wil act upon them. But all know that he will sell out completely on the vast majority, but will return the policies that keep the big business happy.
Open door immigration the EU and elaborate tax incentives.
Same ol Same ol in my opinion
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He will be an unmitigated disaster for Labour, which of course is great news for the UK.
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macarony
Absolutely disagree with you regarding Corbyn. His background , his time as backbencher is testament to his true Socialist beliefs. Listen carefully to his speeches. There is passion and belief in what he's saying. No way is it ' sound bites' he's as far from a ' Professional politician ' as you could imagine. He is a true 'old school ' left wing socialist. This is what the Labour Party was formed around, a party for the ordinary working people. A lot has been lost over the years. Now is the time to reform and fight against these capitalist Tories. Corbyn is the person for change. And things will change ! |
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Is it just me or does anyone else think the Conservatives got their supporters to put up £3 each and vote for him.
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Facts he will sell out long before any election it is his(upper middle class DNA).
The point I am making is I has working class man in the North do not relate or trust another London based elitist. Him and all the other politicians offer me nothing new just more of the same. They hate the North they hate the working class they have treated us appallingly and always will. After the second world war, after we had dug them out of yet another mess, there was a real chance to change this country for the better. but that would have meant the end of the class system and greater share of the countries wealth. It didn't happen. |
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Jeremy an elitist !!
Read his background. No way is he elitist. |
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he's not super polished by a sickly political sub-elite
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I understand what you are saying . But he is exactly the man to make a difference and bring about a change.what you're asking for - he can deliver. He absolutely doesn't hate the working class or people in the North !! Far from it.
You must be talking about the Tories - because that's they're mantra ! I wouldn't argue, that Labour has been too middle ground( even leaning toward the right - a la Blairites). But Jeremy is of a very different breed of Labour. A true Socialist - and all that stands for. |
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Because of his background and where he lives I and many like me will never trust him last know what his type are all about. My days of been lead down the garden path by a labour leader claiming to be a man of the people are over last, especially when it's obvious his primary concerns are for immigrants and globalisation.
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Predicted text on this phone can't see what its writing the forum side bar obscures the view
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apparently he wobbled a FEW WEEKS BACK WHEN HE WAS ON COURSE TO WIN, AT HIS AGE HE'LL NEED LUCK.
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Absolutely.
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To GI
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If allowed to implement his nonsense in full there would certainly be change. A collapsed currency no business investment the old seeing their pensions totally inflated away and impoverished, those on benefits hammered far worse than any freeze implemented by Cameron and millions with mortgages facing huge rate increases.
Hard to see anyone who would benefit from him? |
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Normal reasons being totally economically illiterate labour members?
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stick to facts - opinions are worthless.
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i dont understand why right/tories are so agitated by this. If they are correct and uk public dont want it then they are free to do what they want for years.
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they are scared to hell that Corbyn may tap in to a new public mood
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Will be refreshing at least for an argument on policies not name calling. Even debate on here is full of name calling. Public has moved on wants substance not surface
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its like looking for oil - you'll sink bore after bore (elect leader after leader) and get nothing - then you hit paydirt. Corbyn could be that - no-one knows. the tories are right to we worried. it'll happen sooner or later - thats the only certainty)
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yes, namecalling is simply the refuge of the coward, who cannot win on the facts. I give you Dontchnite six posts up :"economically illiterate labour members?"
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...unless your a (very well-)qualified economist it's foolhardy to set yourself - as you do - above other people, in regard to 'economic literacy' (whatever that is)
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The facts are his economic policy is total nonsense. Perhaps you could tell me why im wrong. Explain to me how this "peoples QE" will work.
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didnt 40 odd economists come forward and say Corbyn policies are valid,
. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/22/jeremy-corbyn-economists-backing-anti-austerity-policies-corbynomics More than 40 leading economists, including a former adviser to the Bank of England, have made public their support for Jeremy Corbyn’s policies, dismissing claims that they are extreme It shows level of debate where an alternative view is labeled, 'nonsense' or 'illiterate', without substance |
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Maybe you could give me an a example of a Country where these sort of policies have worked when implemented in a growing economy? Oh and Zimbabwe doesnt count.
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nationalised railways for example?
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Corbyn is just another rich privileged elitist from London, the very thing people despise.
He has nothing in common with the ordinary people of this country. When was the last time he had to worry about anything, money accommodation, a Job the future of his kids? We have nothing in common with the man. Just another snake oil salesman. |
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im not Talking about railways. Thats fine. Im referring to the magic money tree.
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no I couldn't - and thankyou for overlooking my own abusive behaviour(calling you a coward, which I'm sure you're not)
 - but thats only 'cos i'm not well-armed with the economic arguments required to make the case. Even though I come on like i've got all the answers. |
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TO be fair desperate i deserved the rebuke.
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you're a gent
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I just like corbyn 'cos he so obviously isn't a shyster - he could be wrong about everything, i don't know, but what I do know is that he belives that he can improve the situation in this country overall. Thats good enough for me -I wouldn't presume to know more about something than someone who has studied it all their life, and am happy to place my trust in such a person.
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desperatemunter 13 Sep 15 11:48
they are scared to hell that Corbyn may tap in to a new public mood They already have. It just needs to grow and grow . |
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macarony 13 Sep 15 12:00
Corbyn is just another rich privileged elitist from London, the very thing people despise. He has nothing in common with the ordinary people of this country. When was the last time he had to worry about anything, money accommodation, a Job the future of his kids? We have nothing in common with the man. Just another snake oil salesman. Who's ' we' ? I repeat he is not an elitist. Why do you think he is ? because he lives in London ? That's nonsensical. |
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And I certainly wouldn't class him as ' rich and privileged '
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It's very early to take a firm view on how Labour will be different under Corbyn although I suspect it will be quite radically so. People shouldn't label him with all the virtues they'd like to see in a politician just because his full personality hasn't been scrutinised and they so want it to be the case that he is all the good things they would like. That way lies disappointment. Two negatives have been touched on and they do have some substance. He does represent a relatively narrow class of political person. Whether you deduce from that he is part of an elite is a moot point but he isn't in the old tradition of Labour leaders coming from very humble origins. It's also the case that he very closely resembles a professional politician which again doesn't hanker back to the old days of Labour politicians having experience of real working class lives.
So my guess from that is that he will pursue a strange intelligentsia based form of socialism which will alienate and disappoint Labour's traditional heartlands. People on here like Facts and others will I'm sure be happy but then it isn't those people whose votes Corbyn will risk with his policies. The closest the working class have to a party which will reprsent their interests is actually UKIP. That shows how far away from ordinary people the political establishment has moved. |
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UKIP ?? Closest to a working class ? You must be having a laugh EO !
That's akin to saying The Sun newspaper is affiliated to the working class. Both are a patronising,condescending insult. |
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Trying to deny he is a rich man Facts?
He doesn’t represent what WE want, as in we the white working class. I do not want my kids to have to fight for a crust in their own country, just because corrupt London centric politicians have crammed the country full of people. It is getting harder for people to get a good job today, because business does not want to train their own employees up anymore, they prefer to hire foreigners who already have the skills and experience. |
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never mind if he's rich - might asw well judge a man on whether he likes Eastenders.
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