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MadVlad
02 Sep 15 18:37
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I see there was a storm on twitter when the lad Idris was put forward as the next actor to play Bond. Whats your thoughts ?
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Report MadVlad September 2, 2015 6:38 PM BST
ps will be sad to see Daniel Craig leave his post best Bond since Connery for me,perhaps even the best bond ever.
Report akabula September 2, 2015 6:40 PM BST
Will never better Sean Connery so not bothered who plays him now.
Report Velasquez September 2, 2015 6:43 PM BST
SAYS : Great idea! He'd make the PERFECT James Bond!

(THINKS INSIDE HEAD : Better say what they want to hear ON THIS QUASI-MAOIST LITMUS TEST...don't want to become an unemployable pariah! Whoops )
Report Makybe_Diva September 2, 2015 6:44 PM BST
Not if it's Idris Love
Report scandanavian_haven September 2, 2015 6:47 PM BST
Not that his Bond is happy. "He's very f****** lonely. There's a great sadness. He's f****** these beautiful woman but then they leave and it's... sad. And as a man gets older it's not a good look. It might be a nice fantasy - that's debatable - but the reality, after a couple of months...".

As for whether he'll be back for more James Bond after Spectre? "At this moment, no. I have a life and I've got to get on with it a bit. But we'll see".




I always thought Brosnan was a good Bond and left 1 Bond too early.
Report Velasquez September 2, 2015 6:50 PM BST
Does anybody else think Lois Maxwell would have made a great Othello?
Report jamesdean September 2, 2015 7:02 PM BST
What year will it be before we have a muslim James Bond? Turban on the lot. From Baghdad with love....
Report BennyBinion1 September 2, 2015 7:12 PM BST
May as well be Lenny Henry. He's on everything else.
Report macarony September 2, 2015 7:14 PM BST
Thought bond was meant to be British?
Report Hound-Dog-2 September 2, 2015 7:24 PM BST
Don't think Bond should be black, imagine Brad Pitt playing Shaft !

Best Bond ever Jock Bond Connery, he was just perfect for the part.
Report PatraTheCat September 2, 2015 7:26 PM BST
A black Bond would be totally ridiculous. Ian Fleming would turn in his grave (and he lived in Jamaica).

It's political correctness gone mad!
Report lfc1971 September 2, 2015 8:04 PM BST
Don`t think Bond should be British anymore, too ridiculous to be believed...possibly French.
Report mobo September 2, 2015 8:08 PM BST
In the interest of equality and being a fully fledged guardian reader, I would suggest a black lesbian for the next lead.  Don't any of you racist bigots take the mickey either.
Report scandanavian_haven September 2, 2015 8:10 PM BST
Don't really see why it would be ridiculous, it's not like the same white actor has played him for over 50 years, there's been 6 completely different people already so what does it matter if the skin colour changes with it? we've already had a blonde bond from the traditional dark coloured hair, could be a refreshing change, but the producers are unlikely to do it mostly because they'll be thinking about their pocket with the assumption it wouldn't appeal to the white masses of the Western world.
Report lfc1971 September 2, 2015 8:14 PM BST
nothing wrong with the idea, nobody believes that  type of British character exists anymore.
Report scandanavian_haven September 2, 2015 8:19 PM BST
It is very dated, it's a character from the 50's that needs to evolve over time, if he was truly British today, he wouldn't risk sleeping with as many women as he does, he'd be too worried about the Child Support Agency knocking on his door 9 months laterLaugh
Report s.kenbo September 2, 2015 8:19 PM BST
I'm not a Bond fan but I'd watch it if Idris Elba got the role.

I've been a fan of his since The Wire.
Report Eeternaloptimist September 2, 2015 8:46 PM BST
No objections at all about a black Bond but the crucial thing is the actor being right for the part. If it's a case of shoe horning someone in for the sake of some misguided agenda then its a stupid idea. Idris Elba is a damned fine actor and his portrayal of Luther is one of my favourites. Is he right for Bond? Not sure but then everybody has jumped on the blonde midget's bandwagon and whilst he can act a bit I don't rate him as Bond. So who knows?
Report Eeternaloptimist September 2, 2015 8:46 PM BST
Has anybody thrown Dawn French's hat in the ring yet?
Report pumphol. September 2, 2015 9:19 PM BST
The hat may get the job, Dawn French has no chance though.
Report Eeternaloptimist September 2, 2015 9:33 PM BST
That's just sexist. And fattist.
Report the.mad.dog.man September 2, 2015 9:42 PM BST
chinese james bond
Report DStyle September 2, 2015 9:58 PM BST
so long as he "whites-up" i don't have a problem.

lest we forget that two of the greatest actors ever, namely Laurence Olivier and Orson Welles, had the decency to respect the writer, by blackening up to play Othello.
Report blackbarn September 2, 2015 10:01 PM BST
Not sure it was what the author intended, but we have black Hamlets and white Othellos (took 200+ years for Othello to be played by a black man ffs), so why not.   He's a bl oody good actor.
Report blackbarn September 2, 2015 10:03 PM BST
DStyle - LaughLaugh  They weren't respecting the writer, they were playing to the audience's expectations
Report DStyle September 2, 2015 10:07 PM BST
of course i'm being facetious bb.

it matters not one jot, and i agree that he's a very good actor.

but much in the same way I always viewed Timothy Dalton as that Robin Hood Tree planet douchebag in Flash Gordon, Idris Elba will always be Stringer Bell for me.
Report blackbarn September 2, 2015 10:24 PM BST
Of course DS!, I was having fun, as were youWink.
Report Hank Hill September 2, 2015 10:27 PM BST
Elba would be a fantastic Bond, but yeah you'd always be thinking the wire when you see him. Not sure why anyone would care about Bond being black or white. Historical figures are another matter.
Report striker September 2, 2015 10:35 PM BST
Claire balding
Report Capt__F September 2, 2015 10:44 PM BST
Kenny Mon
Report DStyle September 2, 2015 10:52 PM BST
Hank Hill 02 Sep 15 22:27 
Elba would be a fantastic Bond, but yeah you'd always be thinking the wire when you see him. Not sure why anyone would care about Bond being black or white. Historical figures are another matter.


i'm not so sure Hank.

I sort of knew it was Daniel Day Lewis pretending to be Abraham Lincoln in Lincoln, if you get my point.  We're asked to suspend a whole range of our critical faculties when we enjoy any sort of drama, and we manage to do it pretty easily.

If Grace Jones had done as good as job with the character as Day Lewis, I don't think i'd have enjoyed it any less.
Report dambuster September 2, 2015 11:21 PM BST
I think kenny lynch would make a better James Bond, then he can leave his previous employment as Jimmy tar bucks mate
Report Eeternaloptimist September 3, 2015 12:34 AM BST
What a great shout. Claire Balding is in everything else. May as well be Bond.
Report wit-ham September 3, 2015 9:18 AM BST
A black bond, a white shaft and a transvestite Lara Croft
next you'll want a Bourne again christian
Report mememe September 3, 2015 11:39 AM BST
Dale Winton blacked up

everybody happy then
Report Foinavon September 3, 2015 3:37 PM BST
Time we had a cartoon James Bond. I suggest Brian Griffin.
Report PatraTheCat September 3, 2015 4:12 PM BST
I can't believe this. If there's one place I felt sure that people would agree that a black James Bond is absurd, it was Chit Chat. If even you lot can't see that it's totally wrong, most of the UK probably agrees, and Elba (who is, indeed, a great actor), probably will be the next Bond. Ffs.

It's political correctness gone mad!
Report scandanavian_haven September 3, 2015 4:18 PM BST
What so wrong about it?
Report PatraTheCat September 3, 2015 4:22 PM BST
Well, it would be totally different from Fleming's Bond, like how Robert Downey Jr's Sherlock Holmes was totally different from Arthur Conan Doyle's, and therefore bollocks.

Idris Elba could play a great secret agent, but not Bond.
Report DIE LINKE September 3, 2015 4:24 PM BST
PatraTheCat, fortunately people like yourself who are intolerant, envious, fearful, etc. do not speak for most of the UK.
Report scandanavian_haven September 3, 2015 4:27 PM BST
Patra, it's not the 1950's anymore. Welcome to modern Britain where a good number of the population are non white.
Report jamesdean September 3, 2015 4:33 PM BST
Bond is based on a white man. That doesn't make it racist to think a black James Bond is absurd.
It's just stating a fact.
Report PatraTheCat September 3, 2015 4:34 PM BST
OK, to clarify:

I frequently argue against the overly anti-immigration brigade on here. I wouldn't give a toss if the next British PM were black. I think that we British generally overrate ourselves and fear other cultures, which is one reason that I left the UK.

But Robert Downey Jr, although fine as Iron Man, was ridiculous as Sherlock Holmes, and Idris Elba, though great as Stringer, will, imo, be ridiculous as Bond.
Report FlowerMyth September 3, 2015 4:43 PM BST
I like the idea of an Islamic Bond. He could appear in Diamonds are For Allah.
Report scandanavian_haven September 3, 2015 4:43 PM BST
lol wasn't insinuating you were racist but merely out of touch, Bond is a dated franchise that has predictable inclusions in every film, a black bond would be a refreshing change and could work if the right actor played him.
Report scandanavian_haven September 3, 2015 4:44 PM BST
flower mythLaugh
Report MadVlad September 3, 2015 6:04 PM BST
Interesting opnions on here but for what its worth imo Bond should be a white british agent.
Report maleuk01. September 3, 2015 6:36 PM BST
of course james bond should be white.

that's his character, a white Englishman late 30's to mid 40's and should have a thick head of brown hair.

(hence I don't like Daniel craig as james bond)

just as a white man could not portray martin luther king.
Report MadVlad September 3, 2015 6:41 PM BST
I have a dream this day Cool
Report Eeternaloptimist September 3, 2015 6:54 PM BST
Would those so vigorously promoting the black Bond shout down those people who objected if a white man was cast as Shaft?
Report alun2005 September 3, 2015 6:55 PM BST
Ye Gods, if a white man were to play Martin Luther King in a high-profile modern-day film they sky would surely fall in.

Geddit?
Report MadVlad September 3, 2015 6:59 PM BST
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Would those so vigorously promoting the black Bond shout down those people who objected if a white man was cast as Shaft?
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^ a white man playing shaft ffs I would not watch !
Report donny osmond September 3, 2015 7:00 PM BST
more likely we should have an arabic bond, so he can go undercover with terrorists
Report Just Checking September 3, 2015 7:12 PM BST
He'd better not be armed with a Walther KKK LaughBlushWhoopsLove!

Funny thing about that gun, bond's pistol, I'd assumed being Bond that it was British, it's a German (soon to be Middle Eastern) manufacturer.
Report Emden September 3, 2015 10:00 PM BST
Think he would make an excellent Bond.

Unlike most other Bond's he can actually act
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