SAYS : Great idea! He'd make the PERFECT James Bond!
(THINKS INSIDE HEAD : Better say what they want to hear ON THIS QUASI-MAOIST LITMUS TEST...don't want to become an unemployable pariah! )
SAYS : Great idea! He'd make the PERFECT James Bond!(THINKS INSIDE HEAD : Better say what they want to hear ON THIS QUASI-MAOIST LITMUS TEST...don't want to become an unemployable pariah! )
Not that his Bond is happy. "He's very f****** lonely. There's a great sadness. He's f****** these beautiful woman but then they leave and it's... sad. And as a man gets older it's not a good look. It might be a nice fantasy - that's debatable - but the reality, after a couple of months...".
As for whether he'll be back for more James Bond after Spectre? "At this moment, no. I have a life and I've got to get on with it a bit. But we'll see".
I always thought Brosnan was a good Bond and left 1 Bond too early.
Not that his Bond is happy. "He's very f****** lonely. There's a great sadness. He's f****** these beautiful woman but then they leave and it's... sad. And as a man gets older it's not a good look. It might be a nice fantasy - that's debatable - but
In the interest of equality and being a fully fledged guardian reader, I would suggest a black lesbian for the next lead. Don't any of you racist bigots take the mickey either.
In the interest of equality and being a fully fledged guardian reader, I would suggest a black lesbian for the next lead. Don't any of you racist bigots take the mickey either.
Don't really see why it would be ridiculous, it's not like the same white actor has played him for over 50 years, there's been 6 completely different people already so what does it matter if the skin colour changes with it? we've already had a blonde bond from the traditional dark coloured hair, could be a refreshing change, but the producers are unlikely to do it mostly because they'll be thinking about their pocket with the assumption it wouldn't appeal to the white masses of the Western world.
Don't really see why it would be ridiculous, it's not like the same white actor has played him for over 50 years, there's been 6 completely different people already so what does it matter if the skin colour changes with it? we've already had a blonde
It is very dated, it's a character from the 50's that needs to evolve over time, if he was truly British today, he wouldn't risk sleeping with as many women as he does, he'd be too worried about the Child Support Agency knocking on his door 9 months later
It is very dated, it's a character from the 50's that needs to evolve over time, if he was truly British today, he wouldn't risk sleeping with as many women as he does, he'd be too worried about the Child Support Agency knocking on his door 9 months
No objections at all about a black Bond but the crucial thing is the actor being right for the part. If it's a case of shoe horning someone in for the sake of some misguided agenda then its a stupid idea. Idris Elba is a damned fine actor and his portrayal of Luther is one of my favourites. Is he right for Bond? Not sure but then everybody has jumped on the blonde midget's bandwagon and whilst he can act a bit I don't rate him as Bond. So who knows?
No objections at all about a black Bond but the crucial thing is the actor being right for the part. If it's a case of shoe horning someone in for the sake of some misguided agenda then its a stupid idea. Idris Elba is a damned fine actor and his por
lest we forget that two of the greatest actors ever, namely Laurence Olivier and Orson Welles, had the decency to respect the writer, by blackening up to play Othello.
so long as he "whites-up" i don't have a problem.lest we forget that two of the greatest actors ever, namely Laurence Olivier and Orson Welles, had the decency to respect the writer, by blackening up to play Othello.
Not sure it was what the author intended, but we have black Hamlets and white Othellos (took 200+ years for Othello to be played by a black man ffs), so why not. He's a bl oody good actor.
Not sure it was what the author intended, but we have black Hamlets and white Othellos (took 200+ years for Othello to be played by a black man ffs), so why not. He's a bl oody good actor.
it matters not one jot, and i agree that he's a very good actor.
but much in the same way I always viewed Timothy Dalton as that Robin Hood Tree planet douchebag in Flash Gordon, Idris Elba will always be Stringer Bell for me.
of course i'm being facetious bb.it matters not one jot, and i agree that he's a very good actor. but much in the same way I always viewed Timothy Dalton as that Robin Hood Tree planet douchebag in Flash Gordon, Idris Elba will always be Stringer Bel
Elba would be a fantastic Bond, but yeah you'd always be thinking the wire when you see him. Not sure why anyone would care about Bond being black or white. Historical figures are another matter.
Elba would be a fantastic Bond, but yeah you'd always be thinking the wire when you see him. Not sure why anyone would care about Bond being black or white. Historical figures are another matter.
Hank Hill 02 Sep 15 22:27 Elba would be a fantastic Bond, but yeah you'd always be thinking the wire when you see him. Not sure why anyone would care about Bond being black or white. Historical figures are another matter.
i'm not so sure Hank.
I sort of knew it was Daniel Day Lewis pretending to be Abraham Lincoln in Lincoln, if you get my point. We're asked to suspend a whole range of our critical faculties when we enjoy any sort of drama, and we manage to do it pretty easily.
If Grace Jones had done as good as job with the character as Day Lewis, I don't think i'd have enjoyed it any less.
Hank Hill 02 Sep 15 22:27 Elba would be a fantastic Bond, but yeah you'd always be thinking the wire when you see him. Not sure why anyone would care about Bond being black or white. Historical figures are another matter.i'm not so sure Hank.I sort
I can't believe this. If there's one place I felt sure that people would agree that a black James Bond is absurd, it was Chit Chat. If even you lot can't see that it's totally wrong, most of the UK probably agrees, and Elba (who is, indeed, a great actor), probably will be the next Bond. Ffs.
It's political correctness gone mad!
I can't believe this. If there's one place I felt sure that people would agree that a black James Bond is absurd, it was Chit Chat. If even you lot can't see that it's totally wrong, most of the UK probably agrees, and Elba (who is, indeed, a great a
Well, it would be totally different from Fleming's Bond, like how Robert Downey Jr's Sherlock Holmes was totally different from Arthur Conan Doyle's, and therefore bollocks.
Idris Elba could play a great secret agent, but not Bond.
Well, it would be totally different from Fleming's Bond, like how Robert Downey Jr's Sherlock Holmes was totally different from Arthur Conan Doyle's, and therefore bollocks.Idris Elba could play a great secret agent, but not Bond.
I frequently argue against the overly anti-immigration brigade on here. I wouldn't give a toss if the next British PM were black. I think that we British generally overrate ourselves and fear other cultures, which is one reason that I left the UK.
But Robert Downey Jr, although fine as Iron Man, was ridiculous as Sherlock Holmes, and Idris Elba, though great as Stringer, will, imo, be ridiculous as Bond.
OK, to clarify:I frequently argue against the overly anti-immigration brigade on here. I wouldn't give a toss if the next British PM were black. I think that we British generally overrate ourselves and fear other cultures, which is one reason that I
lol wasn't insinuating you were racist but merely out of touch, Bond is a dated franchise that has predictable inclusions in every film, a black bond would be a refreshing change and could work if the right actor played him.
lol wasn't insinuating you were racist but merely out of touch, Bond is a dated franchise that has predictable inclusions in every film, a black bond would be a refreshing change and could work if the right actor played him.
that's his character, a white Englishman late 30's to mid 40's and should have a thick head of brown hair.
(hence I don't like Daniel craig as james bond)
just as a white man could not portray martin luther king.
of course james bond should be white.that's his character, a white Englishman late 30's to mid 40's and should have a thick head of brown hair.(hence I don't like Daniel craig as james bond)just as a white man could not portray martin luther king.
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^ a white man playing shaft ffs I would not watch !
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Funny thing about that gun, bond's pistol, I'd assumed being Bond that it was British, it's a German (soon to be Middle Eastern) manufacturer.
He'd better not be armed with a Walther KKK !Funny thing about that gun, bond's pistol, I'd assumed being Bond that it was British, it's a German (soon to be Middle Eastern) manufacturer.