Really good of the Catholic church to forgive abortions. In return...

re the first link, you've only shown the Catholics (approx 1 billion people, and over a decades old period). In order for this to have any meaning you would need comparisons, such as statistics of tho welfare state, which you may find to be (relative to the CC) extremely evil, and presumeably those who support it and fund it?

re the 2nd link, sadly If only that lady had been lucky enough to be born in obama's more progressive times she would have been able and encouraged to abort this nuisance baby and Planned Parenthood would have harvested and sold the organs to corporations for experimentation.

They realise they're on a losing run number-wise.  And they are.  We must now make sure the Muslims go the same way - purely in the interests of fairness - big families - NO!

Let's not breed ourselves out of existence through over-population.

Then lets kill all the priests/Imams.  And lawyers.

Let's not breed ourselves out of existence...

if you're refering to the UK, which is responsible for child abuse on massive levels such as in rotherham, then it very deserving of extermination, by any means.

I wonder how much of the cc racket's wealth is nefarious?
The business of forgiving sin for a cut of the profits is hardly consistent with the notion of the alleged tantrums of jc regarding the business done in his father's house..

I was on the fence as to the break up and destruction of the uk but roger has convinced me, probably a group of such disgusting people and their repressive and exploitative culture have never more deserved to be anialated. The rape of the world and all its inhabitants, the creation of the technology which is warming and poisoning the planet, it racist and xenophobic attitudes. Islamic state isn't perfect but no different to british culture, bring on the califate!

Bodil is perhaps best advised not to use rhetoric like 'kill' when referring to people, otherwise he might need said lawyers when they come for him for incitement.

polybot.

"anialated"....

"anialated"..

was wondering when some anally retententive white racist was going to show up to defend the "purity" of the queens english.
obviously has some spare time away from his campaign to deport people who speak too "black" or too "foreign".

better get on the phone alias, some more poor spelling and punctuation for you to report to the authorities there.

I am afraid Alias is as stupid as an oyster, and without the imagination.

He may be stupid as an oyster but he knows how to spell annihilated. Unless polybot meant analated and it was a typo.

polybot seems a very angry man. Such an insidious thing, an inferiority complex.

lfc1971  • September 2, 2015 10:17 AM BST 
I am afraid Alias is as stupid as an oyster, and without the imagination.

Sums him up well although tbf he can throw a mean half brick.

I hesitate to ask, Aka, but what is that shieldy thing in Cerulean Blue?

MFF is the clue.

The concept of forgiveness by the  catholic church is a blessed one,lets hope that Islam extends this to kaffirs pretty soon,eh ?

Aka ya bass

I bet them at 6, AKA, when Celtic were 2-0 up...to qualify...I know them like a bad penny...InsurancePolicy CSC.

polybot seems a very angry man. Such an insidious thing, an inferiority complex.


jeddavison:
sees himself as a pyschic psychoanalyst
can't grasp logic or argument so resorts to logical fallacy and spellchecking

Polybot hates British culture.

If Polybot had the courage of his convictions he would head for Syria where the spoils of war await him but being of a nervous disposition the nearest he will get o fighting is shouting " **** " at some unsuspecting young girl in her school uniform.

Polybot is more likely to move to Rotherham than Syria.

Spellchecking? Look again polybot, I made no mention of your illiteracy.

And you invade a thread on the Catholic Church to denigrate Great Britain, call for the introduction of a caliphate, and call someone laughing at your woeful spelling an anally retentive white racist - I'm sorry, but that's the kind of logic I can't follow.

Polybot is more likely to move to Rotherham than Syria.
so by pointing out your shameful hypocrasy, I'm somehow guilty of it?

Polybot hates British culture.
does this mean, using your own "logic", that you hate british culture? eg the mass child abuse and massive cover ups?

And you invade a thread on the Catholic Church
oh dear, an invasion have you notified the home guard? the UN?

to denigrate Great Britain,

you mean pointing out your child abuse levels compared to the catholics? perhaps you feel it is more praiseworthy, I disagree.

call for the introduction of a caliphate,
not a wish, and unfortunate observation. the erosion will be self inflicted, not inflicted by me.

and call someone laughing at your woeful spelling an anally retentive white racist -
accurately so, anally retentive is one description, but also petty, trivial, tedious, infantile etc. as for racist, someone who can assess "illiteracy" or intelligence based on missing punctuation or unchecked spelling would be the type the assess crimiality on things like skin colour, or phrenology.

I'm sorry, but that's the kind of logic I can't follow.
you certainly can't

ALERT!
*hypocrisy misspelled, suggest you use this as the primary focus of any counter

so to round out the point, the british are (to quote the OP) a bunch of patronising, condescending perverts

polybot

if you're refering to the UK, which is responsible for child abuse on massive levels such as in rotherham

the irony here ofc is that the majority of those culpable of those crimes have a higher than average likelihood to also hold beliefs of a caliphate.

Polybot wrote
I was on the fence as to the break up and destruction of the uk but roger has convinced me, probably a group of such disgusting people and their repressive and exploitative culture have never more deserved to be anialated. The rape of the world and all its inhabitants, the creation of the technology which is warming and poisoning the planet, it racist and xenophobic attitudes. Islamic state isn't perfect but no different to british culture, bring on the califate!

To complain about the creation of the technology which is warming and poisoning the planet, while using the internet himself is hypocrisy. Would it be unfair to assume that polybot also uses motorised transport, refrigeration and a number of other energy consuming appliances made from non-renewable raw materials?
One thing I can agree with him about is that so called Islamic State isn't perfect.

indeed, irony of not seeing irony, for those that missed the rhetoric which I thought had the subtlety of a baseball bat, here it is spelled out more simply.

If you take the statistically average issues with the catholic church as a justification for some sort of pogrom, then you can have no complaint when the lynch mob arrives at your own door when your own crimes are much worse.

but for the sake of amusement here's a distracting and unintended consequence to the argument

the irony here ofc is that the majority of those culpable of those crimes have a higher than average likelihood to also hold beliefs of a caliphate.

Those culpable are who? Using the catholic case, the blame was focussed not on the individual pedos, but on the structure that failed to report adequately (though they did mostly disapprove and take some measures however limited retrospectively in today's terms, rotherham has no such defence)

Let's then apply an equivalent process to rotherham. The structure that failed was modern liberalism? Self -hating socialist multicultualism? The welfare state? The nanny state? Let's just call it modern britain.

Coincidently ISIS is run on a system based around the east german stasi, obviously exploiting the tribalism of islam and local tradition but effectively a social pact that reports centrally via a social construct.
Also those most likely to fuel a califate are not simply the religious but the resentful and ideological radical, like the sort behind the genocide of the french revolution, the russian revolution, the chinese revolution (in their recent goosestepping military hardware procession they failed to mention they mostly stood by while the Japanese wiped out the chinese nationalists but somehow the communist party was the hero), in fact many genocides in the century of socialism.

the point here being, those culpable of those crimes (rotherham etc) have a higher than average likelihood to also hold beliefs of a caliphate.

polybot
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"anialated"..

was wondering when some anally retententive white racist

"white racist"

lfc1971
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I am afraid Alias is as stupid as an oyster,


Says the dolt who slavishly promotes all things right wing and American at every opportunity.

So to be clear polybot are you suggesting that the crimes perpetrated by mainly muslim men on vulnerable young girls are more or less culpable in the crime than those surrounding such activities?
It is neither the liberal state nor any other authority to blame for the actions of the individual.
If nefarious actions are carried out by the very people who are malignant to any concept of liberalism, but actually act similar to the criteria you mention ('resentful and ideological radical') on the disjointed belief that those that dont believe are sacrificial, then it is my view they alone are to blame. It's erroneous in my view to focus more on the unsubstantial remedies of a well meaning authority.
If you look, I didnt get involved with the argument regarding Catholicism and pedophilia, but personally I believe any institution that uses unsubstantiated theology as a vehicle to threaten, whether that also harbors sexual deviancy too or not is wrong.
To that end both Catholicism and Islam are equally tainted.
All that said, the actions of the individual are the responsibility of the individual.

In a nutshell, if liberalism in action meant those who wished to perpetrate nefarious actions against others and used some sort of erroneous doctrine to justify it then that is the bi-product of a system that holds values that the collective majority believe to be the best way.
Yes the bureaucracy of 'government' could well have been improved, but you dont throw the baby out with the bath water, you take action against those that took the p1ss.
Too much emphasis was placed on the police, on social workers or people who 'should have done more'.

Where in the Bible does it mention the Pope with his headquarters being in Italy?

So to be clear polybot are you suggesting that the crimes perpetrated by mainly muslim men on vulnerable young girls are more or less culpable in the crime than those surrounding such activities?


Dustybin, I'm simply applying the same narrative as applied to the catholics by the op, ie it is not just individual offenders who should be held to account, but the entire organisation to which they belong, in this case, the british state, which has been exceedingly accommodating to pedophiles.
If you choose to follow this half-witted, tedious and irrational argument, then exactly what is your defence for knowingly harbouring pedophiles and continuing to support organisations that rape children?

So to be clear polybot are you suggesting that the crimes perpetrated by mainly muslim men on vulnerable young girls are more or less culpable in the crime than those surrounding such activities?


Dustybin, I'm simply applying the same narrative as applied to the catholics by the op, ie it is not just individual offenders who should be held to account, but the entire organisation to which they belong, in this case, the british state, which has been exceedingly accommodating to pedophiles.
If you choose to follow this half-witted, tedious and irrational argument, then exactly what is your defence for knowingly harbouring pedophiles and continuing to support organisations that rape children?

If you look, I didnt get involved with the argument regarding Catholicism and pedophilia, but personally I believe any institution that uses unsubstantiated theology as a vehicle to threaten, whether that also harbors sexual deviancy too or not is wrong.
To that end both Catholicism and Islam are equally tainted.

then islam and the british state are also equally tainted. which makes them equivalent, therefore the replacement of the british state with islam would be neither good nor bad, merely the same, so no big issue then.

We have established beyond any doubt that the british state harbors sexual deviancy*, it also has a capable police force, a substantial military and a nuclear arsenal. Not sure how the vatican's unsubstantiated theology as a vehicle to threaten compares but i'm guessing they are not equal. Your notion of unsubstantiated theology is bizarre, especially as a weapon of intimidation, and why haven't they used it against north korea and Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, must be a conspiracy eh chum?

*not just the rape of children, but also concepts like the criminalisation of homosexuality OR the decriminalisaion of homosexuality, as they have done both, whatever way you look at it they are guilty.

Firstly I suggested the individual is accountable for their own actions, something you possibly agree with, but there is no accusation from me that Catholicism is a front for pedophilia, just that they are seemingly as corrupt in dealing with it as other institutions, namely that they don't want it to undermine their own control (whether they are complicit or not in the actions)
But we disagree if you believe that by default the people have tacit involvement in pedophilia simply for existing. I live within a state that use euphemisms to suggest we all control and shape society but it's all bolox, just because I happen to be here doesn't mean any of the bills on the statute book were my making nor does it follow that it ppl abuse power that it was my fault.
I don't necessarily disagree with much of your sentiment, except that you used Rotherham as an example in the wrong context because the people who offended in that case actively looked to abuse the system rather than abuse within it.
They were attacking not just the kids they preyed upon but also the values that they felt were sacrificial.
The ppl here can't be held accountable for that, they were effectively aliens within the system, dirt in the machine.

Firstly I suggested the individual is accountable for their own actions, something you possibly agree with...
Not sure about the wording, but I take the point you are getting at. As I've pointed out the two examples run fairly parallel, and yet are not quite the same.

the people who offended in that case actively looked to abuse the system rather than abuse within it.
They were attacking not just the kids they preyed upon but also the values that they felt were sacrificial.
But the system is widely known to be exploitable, and has been for a significant time on many levels, the general population knows this, accepts this, and resists almost all attempts to wind it back.

The ppl here can't be held accountable for that, they were effectively aliens within the system, dirt in the machine.
Same can be said for the cc with regard to the individuals who exploited their situations. But here's the difference, the cc can't convict anymore than Dixons Carphone can, clearly they had no legislative authority, those who reported their concerns only to the cc were either misguided, foolish or deliberately irresponsible and should have gone instead to the police). The victims in rotherham did exactly the right thing, and in a far more enlightened time, but the reason the Rotherham perps got off in the face of a sophisticated national police force was political correctness, labour has been installing that for decades and the conservatives have been moving left to meet the demand for it, that requires the majority of the public regardless of whether the excuse is ignorance, stupidity, conformity or cowardice. The fact that we now have corbyn and national socialism in scotland is testament that this situation is getting worse.