Really good of the Catholic church to forgive abortions. In return...

re the first link, you've only shown the Catholics (approx 1 billion people, and over a decades old period). In order for this to have any meaning you would need comparisons, such as statistics of tho welfare state, which you may find to be (relative to the CC) extremely evil, and presumeably those who support it and fund it?

re the 2nd link, sadly If only that lady had been lucky enough to be born in obama's more progressive times she would have been able and encouraged to abort this nuisance baby and Planned Parenthood would have harvested and sold the organs to corporations for experimentation.

Let's not breed ourselves out of existence...

if you're refering to the UK, which is responsible for child abuse on massive levels such as in rotherham, then it very deserving of extermination, by any means.

I was on the fence as to the break up and destruction of the uk but roger has convinced me, probably a group of such disgusting people and their repressive and exploitative culture have never more deserved to be anialated. The rape of the world and all its inhabitants, the creation of the technology which is warming and poisoning the planet, it racist and xenophobic attitudes. Islamic state isn't perfect but no different to british culture, bring on the califate!

polybot.

"anialated"....

better get on the phone alias, some more poor spelling and punctuation for you to report to the authorities there.

He may be stupid as an oyster but he knows how to spell annihilated. Unless polybot meant analated and it was a typo.

lfc1971  • September 2, 2015 10:17 AM BST 
I am afraid Alias is as stupid as an oyster, and without the imagination.

Sums him up well although tbf he can throw a mean half brick.

MFF is the clue.

Aka ya bass

polybot seems a very angry man. Such an insidious thing, an inferiority complex.


jeddavison:
sees himself as a pyschic psychoanalyst
can't grasp logic or argument so resorts to logical fallacy and spellchecking

Spellchecking? Look again polybot, I made no mention of your illiteracy.

Polybot is more likely to move to Rotherham than Syria.
so by pointing out your shameful hypocrasy, I'm somehow guilty of it?

Polybot hates British culture.
does this mean, using your own "logic", that you hate british culture? eg the mass child abuse and massive cover ups?

ALERT!
*hypocrisy misspelled, suggest you use this as the primary focus of any counter

polybot

if you're refering to the UK, which is responsible for child abuse on massive levels such as in rotherham

the irony here ofc is that the majority of those culpable of those crimes have a higher than average likelihood to also hold beliefs of a caliphate.

indeed, irony of not seeing irony, for those that missed the rhetoric which I thought had the subtlety of a baseball bat, here it is spelled out more simply.

If you take the statistically average issues with the catholic church as a justification for some sort of pogrom, then you can have no complaint when the lynch mob arrives at your own door when your own crimes are much worse.

but for the sake of amusement here's a distracting and unintended consequence to the argument

the irony here ofc is that the majority of those culpable of those crimes have a higher than average likelihood to also hold beliefs of a caliphate.

Those culpable are who? Using the catholic case, the blame was focussed not on the individual pedos, but on the structure that failed to report adequately (though they did mostly disapprove and take some measures however limited retrospectively in today's terms, rotherham has no such defence)

Let's then apply an equivalent process to rotherham. The structure that failed was modern liberalism? Self -hating socialist multicultualism? The welfare state? The nanny state? Let's just call it modern britain.

Coincidently ISIS is run on a system based around the east german stasi, obviously exploiting the tribalism of islam and local tradition but effectively a social pact that reports centrally via a social construct.
Also those most likely to fuel a califate are not simply the religious but the resentful and ideological radical, like the sort behind the genocide of the french revolution, the russian revolution, the chinese revolution (in their recent goosestepping military hardware procession they failed to mention they mostly stood by while the Japanese wiped out the chinese nationalists but somehow the communist party was the hero), in fact many genocides in the century of socialism.

the point here being, those culpable of those crimes (rotherham etc) have a higher than average likelihood to also hold beliefs of a caliphate.

lfc1971
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I am afraid Alias is as stupid as an oyster,


Says the dolt who slavishly promotes all things right wing and American at every opportunity.

In a nutshell, if liberalism in action meant those who wished to perpetrate nefarious actions against others and used some sort of erroneous doctrine to justify it then that is the bi-product of a system that holds values that the collective majority believe to be the best way.
Yes the bureaucracy of 'government' could well have been improved, but you dont throw the baby out with the bath water, you take action against those that took the p1ss.
Too much emphasis was placed on the police, on social workers or people who 'should have done more'.

So to be clear polybot are you suggesting that the crimes perpetrated by mainly muslim men on vulnerable young girls are more or less culpable in the crime than those surrounding such activities?


Dustybin, I'm simply applying the same narrative as applied to the catholics by the op, ie it is not just individual offenders who should be held to account, but the entire organisation to which they belong, in this case, the british state, which has been exceedingly accommodating to pedophiles.
If you choose to follow this half-witted, tedious and irrational argument, then exactly what is your defence for knowingly harbouring pedophiles and continuing to support organisations that rape children?

If you look, I didnt get involved with the argument regarding Catholicism and pedophilia, but personally I believe any institution that uses unsubstantiated theology as a vehicle to threaten, whether that also harbors sexual deviancy too or not is wrong.
To that end both Catholicism and Islam are equally tainted.

then islam and the british state are also equally tainted. which makes them equivalent, therefore the replacement of the british state with islam would be neither good nor bad, merely the same, so no big issue then.

We have established beyond any doubt that the british state harbors sexual deviancy*, it also has a capable police force, a substantial military and a nuclear arsenal. Not sure how the vatican's unsubstantiated theology as a vehicle to threaten compares but i'm guessing they are not equal. Your notion of unsubstantiated theology is bizarre, especially as a weapon of intimidation, and why haven't they used it against north korea and Abu Bakr al Baghdadi, must be a conspiracy eh chum?

*not just the rape of children, but also concepts like the criminalisation of homosexuality OR the decriminalisaion of homosexuality, as they have done both, whatever way you look at it they are guilty.

Firstly I suggested the individual is accountable for their own actions, something you possibly agree with...
Not sure about the wording, but I take the point you are getting at. As I've pointed out the two examples run fairly parallel, and yet are not quite the same.

the people who offended in that case actively looked to abuse the system rather than abuse within it.
They were attacking not just the kids they preyed upon but also the values that they felt were sacrificial.
But the system is widely known to be exploitable, and has been for a significant time on many levels, the general population knows this, accepts this, and resists almost all attempts to wind it back.

The ppl here can't be held accountable for that, they were effectively aliens within the system, dirt in the machine.
Same can be said for the cc with regard to the individuals who exploited their situations. But here's the difference, the cc can't convict anymore than Dixons Carphone can, clearly they had no legislative authority, those who reported their concerns only to the cc were either misguided, foolish or deliberately irresponsible and should have gone instead to the police). The victims in rotherham did exactly the right thing, and in a far more enlightened time, but the reason the Rotherham perps got off in the face of a sophisticated national police force was political correctness, labour has been installing that for decades and the conservatives have been moving left to meet the demand for it, that requires the majority of the public regardless of whether the excuse is ignorance, stupidity, conformity or cowardice. The fact that we now have corbyn and national socialism in scotland is testament that this situation is getting worse.