Eurotunnel illegal immigrants

Keith Vaz said this afternoon that he personally saw 140 odd migrants arrive in England yesterday via the tunnel.

3500 attempting over 2 nights.
Has it always been that intense?
you can be pretty sure that now that trade is effected and imports and exports continually grinding to a halt the tories will act.

Just shoot the b*****s ;we don't want any more african rif raf sponging off we taxpayers.Yes there'll be an outcry but so what;it'll deter the others.

A well positioned sniper tower and high powered rifle cost a lot less than the £7m the goverment are about to spend for security.Would only need to shoot about a dozen to get the message through.

This is anecdotal I'll admit, but I have family in France, who work there, and they actually get more benefits over there, but only if you're French, certainly not if you're non EU.

But the employment laws are very strict. They own a restaurant that is open during the summer only. They have to pay their staff for the whole year! Even when they're shut for winter!

If they are genuine asylum seekers why dont they apply for it in France and when successful  they would be free to go anywhere in the EU.

didn't know until this week that those claiming asylum in France must provide an address.
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http://www.asylumineurope.org/reports/country/france/asylum-procedure/procedures/registration-asylum-application

There's a sneaky one!

We should ask the French if they'll pay us a suitable sum for a role swap, or let us have some free electricity that they export so much of.
Put a bit of France on our side of the tunnel and fence them in there. They'd have to pay to cross of course but they couldn't claim asylum in the UK because they wouldn't be in the UK.
£££s all round.

Government seems impotent these days.. much easier to tackle plain cigarette packaging and excess sugar.

The way the media uses the term 'migrants' annoys me.

A migrant is someone who follows due process to pass from one country to another.

A criminal is someone who breaks into a lorry to covertly cross a border.

It's another nail in the EU experiment. Passports not required to travel from Italy to France. Thankfully we still insist on them for people coming here.

Tomorrow's SUN headline reads:

Softy Calais goes ballistic...Frenchies are atrocious!

Newsnight - annoying arab bird on

Presenter (name?) suggesting rebuild detention camp

Zoony

UK border force on the Calais side are more interested in tobacco smugglers sometimes stopping shopping coach trips for over 4 hours while "Europeans" walk thru waving their ID cards. Those that check the lorries on either side of the tunnel or ferry are mainly agency workers wearing UK Border force hi vis vests,a lot of this is down to constant government cuts in border force personnel and the governments attitude to loss of revenue from tobacco sales in the UK,IT'S ALL ABOUT MONEY. I'm a frequent traveler between the UK and France and have witnessed the lax attitude towards European travelers and spoken with UK border force officers who have told me of the quotas they are expected to achieve from UK citizens shopping abroad,I defy any of you to travel to Belgium or France and tell a customs officer you have been shopping and see how long your detained and questioned for.

They are NOT illegal immigrants, they are undocumented citizens! Desist from racist opinion!

An authorised dentist/cat angry zone has been set up, refrain from this non permitted activity or risk prosecution.

Maybe the influx are just the ancestors of those who were robbed of wealth and antiquities and are simply coming the get them back?

* or rather the descendents

Dave says Britain won't be a "safe haven".  Immigrants well and truly shown the error of their ways and will now have to head home with their tails between their legs.  Just the sort of decisive action we demand of our country's leader

if carlsberg did illegal immigrants


http://tinypic.com/r/xb07kg/8

With 2.525 Million claimants on incapacity benefits, https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/444462/stats-summary-july-2015.pdf
And 1.86 Million jobseeker claiments,
And 1.8 Million on a Housing need register list,
And over 1 Million people access`es to foodbanks,
Big Dave boldly states how these immigrants want to get into the UK because of the "Booming Economy".
Who has got the hand up this Puppet

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and look how that one turned out

The majority of those trying to get here from the camps in Calais are thugs. Nothing but criminals, turn the water cannons on them.

and then tasers and watch'm dance

Harman to Cameron after his 'swarm' comment: 'they're people not insects.'

I think it's fair to say she's missing the point of what's happening here.

Our hauliers must have the patience of Job. Incredible effort by them not to lose their cool.

The lefties are pretending to be offended by the term 'swarm'. Even by their standards this is embarrassing, when the massive issue is how we protect our borders and public services from illegal immigration and terror. 

And they wonder why Labour were crushed as the General Election.

Is there ANY sign of a Labour Leadership candidate who will support tough border controls?

that's like asking if there's one that wouldn't tax , borrow and spend us into oblivion

I'm with Harman on this. Swarm indeed. Infestation would be a better description.

plague , would be my preference

I think it's funny as fook it's putting ppls noses out of joint.
Problems have come home to roost

Enough is enough these people (if that is the right word) have nothing whatsoever in common with this country and its inhabitants. Let's not mince words these parasites MUST NOT in any circumstances be allowed to swarm into this country. If necessary and after warnings they cross a designated line they should be shot.

How about the Police treating like they did the striking miners in the 70s ? If its good enough for us its good enough for anybody

i class the sort of migrnts getting here from france as a cancer of the human race

if you as a person had cancer you have 2 choices let the cancer spread and kill you within a few months to a year

or get expert treatment to get rid of it, or to extend your life for 2 years or more or even completely clear it

what choice is our govt doing with these feckless criminal scum - choose cancer

Ffs , sounds like are 'leaders' are worried about offending these criminals before they've even got here.

Our

nazism was the cancer of europe in the 1930 - 1945

the rest of europe allowed it to flourish and it cost the lives of 20+ million in europe

same sh!t is happening now.there is a cancer that will end the EU. europe will  implode then fight

so sort the fkr out

Did one of the illegal immigrants with little grasp of English write that Zulu poster?

The solution has been staring me in the face.Enclose them with high voltage fencing and issue a permit to the American dentist.

Yes....their teeth must be in a terrible state.....but whose going to pay !

2 Nice French islands to put them on, near Normandy;
Chausey (French pronunciation: ​[ʃo.zɛ]) is a group of small islands, islets and rocks off the coast of Normandy, in the English Channel (La Manche).
It lies 17 kilometres (11 mi) from Granville, and forms a quartier of the Granville commune, in the Manche département.
Chausey forms part of the Channel Islands from a geographical point of view, but because it is under French jurisdiction it is almost never mentioned in the context of the other Channel Islands.
There are no scheduled transport links between Chausey and the other Channel Islands, although between two and four daily shuttles link Chausey to mainland France, depending on the season.

Grande-Île is the largest of the islands of Chausey located near the Channel Islands off the coast of Normandy in France.
The island is 1.5 kilometres (0.93 mi) long and 0.5 kilometres (0.31 mi) wide at its widest being approximately 45 hectares (110 acres) in area.
It has a population of 30.

Instead of sending sniffer dogs they should get the nastiest meanest dogs from the forces,police etc.Then instead of putting sniffer dogs into the back of wagons throw one of these in.Let a few get mauled & the rest wont be so keen then.

BI, that is not cool

Surely there's middle ground here the size of the ex-Soviet Union.

We obviously don't want to let lots of illegal immigrants into our country, and we obviously shouldn't shoot or maim them. Also, Cameron's saying "swarm" is an utter non-issue.

May I suggest that:

1. If migrants really enjoy better benefits here than in mainland Europe, they should be reduced.

2. Um, the US has to patrol a border with Mexico that is over 3000 kilometres long. We have to keep an eye on one tunnel. We should just hire more people to do it and also help the French build better fences on their side. It's only one tunnel ffs, so it's easier for us than for any other European country.

Wise words PatraTheCat.

Two pages of sickeningly uninformed, racist twaddle. Disgusting specimens, the lot of you!

Shoot them
Electrocute them
Tazer them
Cancer
Parasite
Let the dogs eat them

etc, etc, yet you know nothing of any of them! We normal human beings with normal human feelings, on the other hand, know an awful lot about every poster on this thread, and the blackness in their souls. Shame on each and every one of you.

Not very nice comments I agree but what's your solution to the problem?

He doesnt live anywhere near where this can affect him other than making money.

http://news.sky.com/story/1528704/pregnant-migrant-heading-to-uk-for-my-baby

she wants humanity and human rights for her child. Not here for the pound. She also wants education She says.


Yeah ok right, so I presume she has money to support herself or get a job to pay for herself Obv wants free house, medical care, benefits and sounds like she fancies some evening classes as well, well why not indeed.

Looks just the type who would integrate well into british society.

Maybe if its all doom and gloom for her in france she should head back to Eritrea.

22Most of the ill feeling towards them stems from the fact that they are causing such problems trying to escape France where they are in no danger at all.The left defending them by the "let them all in" catchphrase do not help

They seem to be altering the meaning of the word Jungle, the BBC have been doing it for the last week.

The last time i passed through Calais it didnt have any wild creatures threatening my survival.

This situation can only get worse, what happened to refugees seeking asylum in the first friendly country they reach ?
How many countries are they actually passing to get to France ?
They are obviously being told that Eldorado lies across the English channel, is England really that much better than France

I'll think you'll find all European countries are being 'swarmed' by immigrants, not just the UK. Can't blame them. Wouldn't you do the same?

I lived in El Salvador a few years ago.Had a friend there that was was being threatened by the gang Mara Salvatrucha.

They phoned him one day and told him that if he didnt pay them $200 a month from then on, they would kill his wife and baby daughter.This was no idle threat, at that time San Salvador was the most violent city on the planet.

He went to the police station where a helpful policeman told him not to report it because "many of the cops working here are in on it, if you report it you´re dead".

Im talking about a guy who had no job, no money and certainly no way to pay the $200 (which would undoubtably increase had he paid it).

So, he fled the country.Made the very, and i mean very dangerous journey to New York, through Guatemala and Mexico.

He got there in the end and has now been living there for a few years.He is the nicest guy that you could possibly imagine.
Don't get me wrong, i know that there has to be border controls and i'm not at all in favour of just letting everyone in, but the posters calling these migrants a plague, parasites, shoot them etc are fcuking disgusting.

Like timbuctooth said these are people, born in very bad circumstances looking for a way out.As would most of you, had you been born into a similar situation.

your forgetting davy they are already in a country (france) where they are safe and prob crossed quite a few to get to france.

they want to get to the uk for free houses and cash.

And who pays for all that?

People work 5 or 6 days a week to scrape a living and the so called asylum seekers/immigrants get houses bigger than they could ever afford for free.

They then look at the tax taken out of their wages and that's who pays for it all.

I can now clearly see why Corbyn would be such a disaster for Labour.

After all this crap, there's not a sane person in the land who would want him running the country. He'd be down Dover with fcking welcome hampers and the keys to a new build 3 bed house.

That's very true Davy. We shouldn't dehumanise them. They are people but they are people that the inhabitants of this island don't want to take. So what is the answer? These aren't asylum seekers. They are economic migrants. Which again is nothing to be ashamed of. They want a better life. The problem being that for every one that is allowed into the country will result in the message going out that tens of millions of others should chance their arm. We can address the issue now. We may not be able to in a few years.

They are making a logical decision though Maleuk.

Im not British so i dont know how your system works.However, it appears that you treat them an awful lot better than the French.I cant imagine something like that slum in Calais existing in your country (to your credit).

Blame the politicians and the the system not the people.I'm against open borders like just about every person on the planet.
Indians resent Bangladeshis, Costa Ricans resent Nicaraguans, Chileans hate Peruvians.Its something that exists everywhere.

My point is, these are people not scum and they are making the most rational choice.I would certainly do the same, as would most.

Again Eternal, im not for open borders.No right thinking person is.
But, the blame lies with your system not with the migrants.

Indeed it does as most people would agree. Our problem is that we do seem to have people who we call luvvies who are quite deranged individuals and who want to roll out the red carpet to anybody who turns up whatever the reason.

There was a man fifty years ago who waxed lyrical about our proud history of taking in small numbers over many centuries and assimilating them but that we would have awful problems with an open door policy. These luvvies hounded him out of politics for telling the truth.

davy they have no thought or care for the uk these people at Calais. They are out for what they can get for FREE!

They are costing now millions of pounds for haulage firms and importers/exporters, disruption for travellers, do you think they care?

Of course not, they are safe in France and to be honest 95% are prob safe in the country they come from.

So those who genuinely need asylum now get tarred with the same brush and will become much harder for those people who seriously need help. I doubt they care much about those people either.

.......perhaps the free movement of people would be considered a noble idea......normal in fact.

.....if only there wasn't such a disparity in the wealth of countries around the world........

.....and also within countries around the world....whether they are considered relatively rich or relatively poor countries.

Of course Maleuk.They don't care about the UK, they are not British after all.If they can get something for free...well, that sounds pretty good.
It's completly logical and rational maleuk.I don't agree with it, but thats how it is.

Eternal, your country seems to be an exception.Most of the worlds countries prefer to have a homogenous population.The most racist people i have ever met have been Mexicans.
In Mexico they will complain bitterly about how badly they are treated by los gringos...however, ask them about Honduran and Salvadoran migrants in Mexico ...

Hijos de puta, ladrones, sicarios, violadores!!!

It's natural to want to be surrounded by your own people.Its human nature.

Eternal, actually not just the Uk.Seems to me Western and Nothern Europe along with North America.Everywhere else is fairly homogenous...i think?

After much rambling, here is my point

This time about the economic migrants...

If i was working in say Ethiopia making $100 a month, working 6 days a week, 12 hours a day, and then was told that if i just get to the UK i will get a multiple of that and not even have to work...

I venture to say i might try it.It's illegal, but i won't be put in jail.Why not try it?
Who here wouldn't try it?Yes, i would be an economic migrant but they might let me stay.These people are making a rational choice.Doesn't make them scum.I'd do it.

They are just normal people who see an opportunity.

Again, blame the system, not the people.

It's the frustration about the system which causes the people to be blamed. If they were stranded elsewhere without a hope of getting into this country do you think people would be so exercised Davy? Of course not. They are exercised because they know that sooner or later those people will be pitching up here adding to the many overcrowding issues we already have.

Dead right Eternal.I cant argue with that.

I dont at all blame British people for being angry.At the end of the day its human nature.

Believe me, Argentines are just as piss ed off about Colombian migrants in Buenos Aires.That's the way the world is, that's the way we are as people.
An example, my friend from El Salvador...Salvador expelled all black people from the country in the 50's believing them to be inferior.
Hutus didn't much care tutsis.Pashtuns are not well recived in Karachi.

That's the way the world is.

However, it's also human nature to seek something better, hence the migrants.
I don't blame them them for trying.

Measures taken today are shyte

More security guards, more private security and higher fences


Maybe I lack compassion but I'd have no problem manning a 50 cal machine gun and sorting it. Hundreds pulling down fences at the minute, what happens when it's 10,000

maybe they could get Chelsea supporters to help out? They're good at keeping blacks off trains.

I DO blame the migrants for attempting illegal entry into a country.

All their attempts whether they succeed or fail are costing us millions of pounds. The toll on the hauliers is incredible. Many people could lose their livelihoods over this chaos.

Sooner or later people caught up in this mess will get killed. The sh*t will really hit the fan if one of these illegals commits a heinous crime whilst here. We have enough criminals already..

Having been to 4 very poor Africa nations I have every sympathy for their plight. I had a teacher in Ethiopia beg me to take his son back with me to England. Across Africa, farming is often up to a 1000 years behind the rest of the world.....The reasons for that are complicated but very solvable.

But it's no excuse to charge police, cut through fences, jump aboard lorries and trains and expect someone else to pay.

Same people calling for the white tribe of Africa to be dispossessed of everything and to be repatriated are saying the UK should allow people from everywhere and anywhere to settle in the UK.This is hypocrisy.

We are too soft and you can't blame them for wanting to get here.  Pic in the DM this morning of Migrants Adam and Muhammad relaxing at a three-star Best Western Park Hall hotel. 

Being put up in a free hotel (and probably getting room service as well !) with good food and money. With a welcome like that of course they want to come here, don't blame them, blame the system.  Bloody crazy situation !  But Cameron has got it under control sending some dogs down and more fences,  he hasn't got a clue !

Do the maths. Billions of them. Millions of you. Who's gonna win?

From The Mail on Sunday:

"How can it have come to this, that British citizens, paying their own way in well-appointed hotels, find that they are sharing their accommodation with newly arrived migrants, in many cases here by illegal means, supplied with all they need by taxpayers’ money?

At the same time, The Mail on Sunday reveals the existence of a government website advertising the benefits available – again at the taxpayers’ expense – to anyone who can get here and claim to be a refugee. They can even apply for free spectacles, so better for them to fill in the forms for more benefits.

These facts are as astonishing to the new arrivals as they are to British citizens."

Indeed.

How many do want to let in.  Forget Calais - how about the eu and normal immigration??

2 million   5 millin 20 million

there is nothing to stop them

this calais thing helps to divert away from the main issue not a few thousand at the fences

very convenient

I wonder if the ones who welcome them and tell us to play fair and humane would like a 'swarm' living next door to them in Notting Hill or deepest oxfordshire???

Are there ferries that can still carry Lorries at Dover ?

Its all a question of numbers and where you draw the line. What would a world with open borders look like, a massive movement of people from rich to poor nations resulting in chaos and a breakdown in order.  So a line has to be drawn and most people in this country say enough and that opinion should be respected.

If we allow them in they should be parked in concentration camps prior to a decision being made as to whether or not they have a genuine reason for being allowed to stay. If they are economic migrants they should be packed onto planes and flown back to whichever country they originated from.If it's too dangerous to land they could be ejected..with a parachute of course.
There is NO reason for letting more flotsam settle in this country at the taxpayers expense.

Massive housing waiting list cutting back on peoples benefits, why do we want these leeches over

pardon my ignorance,but why haven't the army not been deployed at least at dover and the channel tunnel at least helping search trains and lorrys.

our forces seem to be deployed everywhere else in the world bar protecting our borders.

seems to me once these illegal immigrants set their foot in the country they are hear for good,no one seems to get deported.

we could also change the benefits system.

No money/healthcare/education/houses etc

until you have lived and worked full time for 5 years paying taxes.

that will stop a large majority of them bothering to come here.

then only a maximu period you can claim benefits eg 1  year then they stop and you would have to return to country of origin.

Some very sensible suggestions. It's time some of the luvvies like Facts and his chums actually put forward some constructive suggestions instead of crying about how beastly some people are. People become beastly when their concerns are ignored.

"A nation can survive it's fools. but it cannot survive treason from within"

Thats all I want to hear. A solution, I keep hearing how the country is not over crowded from the left and that taking all 5000 is nothing. But lets take for example the woman talking this morning. "I'm a single mother I dont want anything just to be safe" So how will you fund that being safe for you and your child when you get here?
Its the same old story they come over jump the queue drive down wages dont intergrate and make the country a shoitehole. Then in a few years they'll be having a "human rights" claim up

sj

Don't be taken in. When the left says the country they include the vast tracts were nobody lives or wants to live. I live in an area the size of Wales but outside of Inverness it has a population smaller than the average town. These people want to live in one place and that is London. What is the population density in London? 5000 isn't a massive amount admittedly bt what message does that send to people back in Africa? Next year there may be 50,000 and a few years down the line we could be talking about millions.

So the solution is simple. Face down the luvvies who try to con you. Elect governments who put the interests of this country and its inhabitants first and throw the blighters out if they fail to deliver.

Still can't work out why if I was to pull a fence down or enter a private property area I would be fined for criminal damage or prosecuted for illegal entry; these people just get sent back to try again

Just came home after a long drive tonight & had radio 5 live on all night. You wouldn't believe the long list of cretins they have had on regarding Calais.

Guest after guest, with their posh accents telling us all how this country is a disgrace and should allow these poor souls into the country and look after them.

Send them to Mecca

Too many people in the country already regardless of colour race or religeon. It's claustrophobic and the roads, health service, police and housing can't cope.
Someone said above about sending the immigrants back to their home country. The immigrants destroy all personal papers so there is no way of telling where they are from.

Questions have been raised about Britain's response to the crisis, with some arguing the UK's labour laws are to blame for the growing number of migrants trying to cross the Channel.

Former French employment minister Xavier Bertrand, who is running for mayor in the Calais region, told Sky News: "They (migrants) don't want to stay in Calais.

"They want to go to England to find a job because they know it is possible to work without an identity card.

"In England, you have to change your policy."


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http://news.sky.com/story/1529362/clampdown-as-70-percent-of-calais-migrants-reach-uk

Migrants trying to climb fences with small children should be jailed immediately for child endangerment.

It’s been pointed out time and again by the French and others that Britain, is going over and above what is legally required when it comes to benefits, for asylum seekers and economic improvers.
Maybe if we did things the French way none of this mess would have happened, time to harmonise our policy with the French.