Puzzle - im stuck... any help?

Good Luck.

40d is everywhere

and I don't know where to finish or end !

Is it a grid reference?  If so it appears to be somewhere near Middlesbrough  which is 54º and a bit north and a little over 1º West

Latitude and longitude, not grid reference

yes it will be that area muntz. but the exact co-ordinates are required and the last two parts of both N and W I just cant work out..... hence I cant work out the puzzle to get them

what is 40d then? (David Fishwick?)

We are at the same stage, then!

I make it near York, what context is this 'puzzle' in?

A biscuit tin.

Are there any cats there?

^ cats in the biscuit tin, I mean.

maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan, Jamaica?

Nah - she volunteered.

What is, "54  AB.CDE    W 001  FG. HIJ", in your quandary?

Is it a black man's c0ck?

I also think this is near York - is it a clue for a geo-caching location?

You could maybe start by telling something about the puzzle.
Is it in a maths exam paper for instance?
Or is it something to do with Chinese food?

Is it spherical geometry?

Is it coz I'm black?

Should we inform the Feds?

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Jul 28, 2015 -- 8:05PM, Kit-Kat-Dan wrote:

I also think this is near York - is it a clue for a geo-caching location?

I think it's near Rangoon.

There were some heavy aircraft lying over Perth tonight.  Could this have something to do with it?

flying ^

Is the op in a B-52 looking for directions?

Yes kit kat - its a geocaching location. Im looking to solve the puzzle to find the exact co-ordinates for a geocache.

i have no idea what the puzzle is, how oyu go about it etc, if i knew that i guess i wouldnt be here.


The co ords are N 54  AB.CDE    W 001  FG. HIJ

so the answer to A will be a 1 digit number and will replace A on the corodinates.... and so on. so its certaint (i think) that D E H and J will all be the same number in value. But whats the code to cracking it, what does the d after each number mean?

If all the solutions are single digit then I suggest there might be a modular solution. So for example
A = 6 (mod 9)
B = 7 (mod 9)
C = 2 (mod 9)
D = 4 (mod 9)
E = 4 (mod 9)
F = 1 (mod 9)
G = 2 (mod 9)
H = 4 (mod 9)
I = zero
J = 4 (mod 9)

There may be other solutions, this is just a suggestion but I chose a modulus which doesn't give zero since "zero" is a quoted solution to I.

If d refers to old pence then that might suggest mod 12 since 12 pence in a shilling.
In which case B and F are both 10 unfortunately.The rest look to be single digits.

If d codes for days in a week so mod 7 we get another zero (B) but that might be correct.
converted to mod 7 the solution becomes
A 6
B 0
C 6
D 5
E 5
F 3
G 2
H 5
I 0
J 5

Intriguing puzzle, BJK. 

I like Foinavon's suggestion to assign d to a particular modulus.  My own initial reaction, for what it's worth, is that d could equal zero.  I'll certainly give your brainteaser some more thought tomorrow.

ok so maybe a little dense here foinavon but when you say Mod9, what does that actually mean?

just tried both solutions foinavon, neither are right. Its frustrating!!

I tried the obvious of sticking the numbers in (ignoring zeroes).  Got 20 York St Hartlepool.

I don't know where it is exactly but it should bring you out in a field somewhere (I know its a disused bunker from the war)

ok so maybe a little dense here foinavon but when you say Mod9, what does that actually mean?

It just means I've converted the original number to a new number based on mudulus 9.

In simple terms it works like a clock which goes from 1 to 12 then back to 1. the clock works on  modulus 12. So 14 is 2 (mod 12) and 26 is also 2 (mod 12).
By the same token 14 is 5 (mod 9) and 26 is 8 (mod 9).

got you, thanks for explaining the modulus numbers.

still cluesless on the right answer though :-(( this one has had me stumped for days

Walk a kilometer at 6 degrees east of north, turn 70 degrees east, walk another kilometer, and so on.
If you get to Norway by walking through the North Sea do bring your passport.

Hmm, longshot, could the 'd' be decimal places of pi, so that:

A=2
B=4
C=6
D=1
E=1
F=5
G=4
H=1
I=3 (I.e. ‘zero’ places).

not really getting that FM. but checked the answer and its not right. appreciate everyone trying to help though...

Is there anything else you can tell us about the puzzle that might be of use, BJK?  I'd be interested to learn if you have ever encountered a similar test in the past as I'm keen to gauge how intricate a solution these guys like to set.

well its a geocache puzzle in the north eats of England. the name of it is "watch out the Russians are coming" but the title wont give a clue to the puzzle.

I have no idea how to go about this puzzle but geocaching puzzle are often very difficult and sometimes require ciphers, something i am no good with.

Basically in geocaching puzzles they give you a puzzle, no tips on how to solve the puzzle or how to go about it. to find the geocache you must work out the puzzle, which should give you end co-ordinates. with those co-ordinates you then go out and find the geocache.

For those that have never tried geocaching its worth it if you like walks, getting out and about. particularly for familys with kids (6 upwards I would say). normal geocaches don't require a puzzle to be solved they just give you the co-ordinates then you got to arrive at the co-ordinates and locate the geocache (it could be anything from the size of your hand to as small as a thumb nail. easier to geocaching to be honest.

But for those into puzzles of all degrees of difficulty, geocaching on premium membership (£7.99 for 3 months, not recurring) you can try the puzzles and believe me some are very difficult but worth the effort. geocaches get rated between 1 and 5 for difficulty and terrain. this is a D5/T5 which is why its so bloody difficult and so awkward to get when you get to the coordinates! a 1/1 would be on a lamp post or on a gate.

hope all the above makes sense!

It does, sir, thank you.  How about an example (and solution) of another D5/T5 puzzle?  Do you have any you could share?

d is 100 metres

going clockwise N,E,S,W

A=600 metres going North
B=7000 metres going East
C=2000 metres going South
D=4000 metres going West
E=4000 metres going North
F=1000 metres going East
G=200 metres going South
H=4000 metres going West
I=0 metres going North
J=4000 metres going East

Add them up
N=4600
E=12000
S=2200
W=8000

N/S=2400 North (4600-2200)
E/W=4000 East (12000-8000)

Go 2400 metres North, then go 4000 metres East

Then above may be correct.
or you may get lost

lol nooooooooo D5/T5 i have completed they are the hottest ones about. one D5/T5 near my house is a tree climb. no puzzle in volved but its right at the top of a monster tree. and right out on a branch. about 8 people  have found it, opened it and signed the log but most look at it, realise even with ropes etc its just too risky still and leave it. you don't wanan risk your life for one! hence why im resorting to a puzzle cache that is a 5/5/

here is an example of one i completed. this was a D3/T1.5


The following are all notable english figures from the 17th, 18th and 19th century that can be identified by the clues to their achievements. What connects them?



In no particular order:



A. A law maker with his feet firmly on the ground.

B. A hopeful composer who can always be found on the promenade.

C. An engineer with connections. Reg knows him.

D. A pioneer, a ministering angel and namesake. Could you hold a light to her?

E. A manufacturer and lunartick, hard pressed to be head over heals and rarely copied.

F. The name of the establishment that connects them (three words)



Once you've identified the figures and the connection, you will be easily able to assign a number associated to each of them. Use those numbers to complete the sums whose answers complete the final coordinates to the cache.



G. The number associated with figure A

H. The number associated with figure B

I.  The number associated with figure C

J. The number associated with figure D

K. The number associated with figure E

L. The number of letters in the name of the establishment that connects all five figures



Cache can be found at: N54 59.X W001 36.Y



Where X = (K x L) + ((I +J) x H) - (I -G) and Y = ((I  x I) x L) + (H x I) - (K - G)

or kilometres
24 km North, 40 Km east

or miles
24 miles north, 40 miles east

Kin - there will be an answers for each letter a-j which will just give a one digit number to which i then replace with the letters that cover up the co-ordinates at the start of the puzzle. There is an answer checker i can use once i have the co-ordinates

to go to the exact geocache location (to within 1 metre) i need exact co-ordinates. 24km north could be very vague and i don't have co-ords to puts in... eg N54.12.234 w001.23.234

In your new puzzle,blackjackking, are they all figures found on bank notes? Eg Elgar, Florence Nightingale,etc.

yes very good foinavon. so once you have all the answers they will equate to numbers, put them in the puzzle instead of the letters and you have the exact co-ordaintes to go and find the geocache (however it is in newcastle so far too far for most of you!)

had to leave this for a bit, im just drawing blanks.

I Googled the question and the top answer was very interesting

http://tinyurl.com/co-ordinates-question

ovalman, you mean its only us searching for it? I only get that referring back to chit chat.

ive asked fellow puzzlers to help with no luck, no joy with puzzlers on here. its not impossible as I do know about a dozen people have cracked it, maybe more. But just non I know

My post was in jest but yes I done a Google and the only answer Google threw up was a refferal back to this thread, I'm stumped as well.

Lying in bed last night I was thinking about the possibility of the puzzle being a hexadecimal conversion.


A. 6d in hexadecimal could be represented as 109 in decimal, 1101101 in binary, and with logarithm value of 4.

B. 70d in hexadecimal could be represented as 1805 in decimal, 11100001101 in binary, and with logarithm value of 7.

C. 20d in hexadecimal could be represented as 525 in decimal, 1000001101 in binary, and with logarithm value of 6.

D. 40d in hexadecimal could be represented as 1037 in decimal, 10000001101 in binary, and with logarithm value of 6.

E. 40d in hexadecimal could be represented as 1037 in decimal, 10000001101 in binary, and with logarithm value of 6.

F. 10d in hexadecimal could be represented as 269 in decimal, 100001101 in binary, and with logarithm value of 5.

G. 2d in hexadecimal could be represented as 45 in decimal, 101101 in binary, and with logarithm value of 3.

H. 40d in hexadecimal could be represented as 1037 in decimal, 10000001101 in binary, and with logarithm value of 6.

I. 0d in hexadecimal could be represented as 13 in decimal, 1101 in binary, and with logarithm value of 2.

The problem here, of course, is that zero is specified and not 0d.

J. 40d in hexadecimal could be represented as 1037 in decimal, 10000001101 in binary, and with logarithm value of 6.


Anyway, that's as far as I have got so far, BJK.  Make of it what you can, sir.  Good luck.

thank you poker, but tried that and still not correct. its a real head scratcher. im gonna look into ciphers a bit more to try and crack it.

Have you read "The Code Book" by Simon Singh?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Code-Book-History-Code-breaking/dp/1857028899

no ive not mate, looked through geocachingtoolbox dot com but no ciphers or code crackers on there to solve this one.

here is another im stuck on that i need cracking... apparently its easier but still a head scratcher.

The cache is hidden at North AA BC.DEF West BBG HJ.KLM

Where:
A= A Partridge in a Pear Tree
B= Turtle doves
C= French hens
D= Calling birds
E= Gold rings
F= Geese a-laying
G= Swans a-swimming
H= Maids a-milking
J= Ladies dancing
K= Lords a-leaping
L= Pipers piping
M= Drummers drumming


Now what i do know is A must = 5 and B must =0, C and G are probably a 1 (about 90% sure)

A=5
B=0
C=1 (?)

Now i only know A and B value as the co ordinates have to begin like that so to begin 55 is bang on for the area in newcastle that the location is. anyway if someone can crack this code id be chuffed.

Hopefully theres a few clever cookies on here to help me with this one

it's the most readable book on ciphers I know. Takes you from the simplest codes to the most complex "public key" systems in use today. There is also a peek into the future of cryptography. A most interesting read if you like that sort of thing.

According to the well known Christmas carol, your new list goes from 1 to 12 in counting order.
How you get to the numbers you want from that information is another story.
How do the "days of christmas" match with actual calendar dates? Someone might know.

Assuming it starts on Christmas day

A= A Partridge in a Pear Tree  25
B= Turtle doves                26
C= French hens                 27
D= Calling birds               28
E= Gold rings                  29
F= Geese a-laying              30
G= Swans a-swimming            31
H= Maids a-milking             01
J= Ladies dancing              02
K= Lords a-leaping             03

Does that get you anywhere?
L= Pipers piping
M= Drummers drumming

How did that happen?

looked at the dates but its just not working. Theres a connection there somewhere but nothing that i can see, vowels, scrabble score..

nearest im getting is this...

number of letters of the corresponding letter appearing in the line

A = ...and a partridge in a pear tree (A appears 5 times)
B = Two Turtle doves (0 B`s in this line)
C = Three French hens (1 C in this line)

but after filling this in its not right... but my first idea for the 5 being A and 0 being B was working... but the least few letters are all ending in 0 or 1... more or less. It doesnt work, but thats just a few ideas ive tried

im still stumped with this one... anyone have any idea?

Jul 29, 2015 -- 4:33PM, blackjackking wrote:

well its a geocache puzzle in the north eats of England. the name of it is "watch out the Russians are coming" but the title wont give a clue to the puzzle.I have no idea how to go about this puzzle but geocaching puzzle are often very difficult and sometimes require ciphers, something i am no good with. Basically in geocaching puzzles they give you a puzzle, no tips on how to solve the puzzle or how to go about it. to find the geocache you must work out the puzzle, which should give you end co-ordinates. with those co-ordinates you then go out and find the geocache. For those that have never tried geocaching its worth it if you like walks, getting out and about. particularly for familys with kids (6 upwards I would say). normal geocaches don't require a puzzle to be solved they just give you the co-ordinates then you got to arrive at the co-ordinates and locate the geocache (it could be anything from the size of your hand to as small as a thumb nail. easier to geocaching to be honest. But for those into puzzles of all degrees of difficulty, geocaching on premium membership (£7.99 for 3 months, not recurring) you can try the puzzles and believe me some are very difficult but worth the effort. geocaches get rated between 1 and 5 for difficulty and terrain. this is a D5/T5 which is why its so bloody difficult and so awkward to get when you get to the coordinates! a 1/1 would be on a lamp post or on a gate.hope all the above makes sense!

First thing I thought with "North East" and "Russians are coming" was Heugh Battery in Hartlepool. Coordinates for that turn out to be 54.697121°N 1.176655°W.

Or 54° 41′ 49.64″ N, 1° 10′ 35.96″ W

depending exactly what format N 54  AB.CDE    W 001  FG. HIJ exactly suggests referring to.

Could d refer to old money and 1d therefore equals 1/240th of a pound?

the old money doesnt work but nice idea! need to work out the puzzle to give the exact coordiantes as this is in a moor somewhere near middlesborough, dont think its too close to Hartlepool mind.

The other puzzle with the 12 days of christmas is going nowhere and ive got everyone on the case!