Another family of 12 go to Syria...

its our fault because the uk isn't moving quick enough to a total Islamic state. Some of us think its rapidly heading that way though.

There's already town centre's in the uk where virtually every takeaway/fast food place is halal . I know a town centre which has 2 kfc's and both are halal only, so no big daddy burgers as it might upset certain people.

Pleasing news.Hopefully many more will follow in their footsteps.

people like naydam are the problem - think deeply - they will see it a right for people to go and murder as it is an ideology.


until the day these sort of people he attempts to defend knock on his door.

Camerons more of a problem, as is Obama.. Mind you, he has a reason..

yes indeed I have posted several times about Herr Kamarooooons  role in this and eu issues  GUTLESS

and his retirement to a nice job with Herr Merkel

Herr Merkel and Herr Schäuble have done a fine job on the Greeks today. I don't think she is stoopid enough to employ Cameron..

Oh yes.  A well trained poodle would just suit her.

She may take IDS instead then..

This whole business can be done in a more dignified fashion that is equitable to both sides.

All those who want to go join IS can put their names down, without fear of recrimination but reminded it's a one way ticket and they forego all right as British subjects and surrender their passports.

We lay on the flights and exchange them one-for-one with genuine refugees who want to escape the war zone and the nutcases in charge.

Flights go out full and return full, and the newcomers take over the newly vacated properties.

This might help with the mess in Italy and Greece with people risking their lives for an outside chance of escaping hell.

Foreign Office desperately trying to locate these poor individuals so that they can transfer all accrued benefits to the last standing downtown Damascus financial institution. There is a taxi on its way to take the cancer sufferer back to the nearest UK NHS hospital for a consultation with her surgeon and some chemo/radio/brachio therapy and a return fare to the new family home/local IS headquarters which we will subsidise with housing benefits. The elderly gentleman will of course be picked up (along with a carer) in a specially adapted people carrier which will whisk the both of them to the local UK activities centre so that they can make exploding back-packs along with all fellow believers at the radicalised mosque which the local council seen fit to build in order to further cement local racial relations.
Meanwhile the children ... ah the children, School Attendance Officer (not sure what they're called nowadays, but probably a far left, lesbian, pinko, communist, transgendered, transvetite, gay, Islamist, athiest, enquirer of why wee scroteface couldn't make  it into school today (and do you realise he's skipped a couple of days right back to 2010 Mrs Ahmed)? is already on her way to Damascus to see if there are any further benefits which would persuade young Mohammed Scrote to come back to school for another day or two - we could even provide an RAF transporter and of course his own classroom assistant with the obligatory ipads for both of them. RAF to fly them back each day after school.
What about benefits for the adults - carers allowances, disabled living allowance, family tax credits, job seekers allowance, child benefits, unemployment benefits, esa benefits, God/Allah only knows what else, but by Allah they will know their entitlements.
Don't worry about it effendi - British people don't ... just come back some day as a tourist ... try not to wear a suicide vest

Interested to hear Naydam's response to the question asked by a poster earlier as to if he respects Lee Rigby's killers for following and acting on their beliefs.

And whilst you are at it, do you also respect the fella who killed 38 in Tunisia, the Charlie Hebdo killers and the Nazis? I assume you do as they all acted on their beliefs.

Thin and Crispy   
01 Jul 15 17:35 
They are going to be in big trouble for this.....taking the kids out of school in term time.

Not in Barking they won't, they don't fine the asians for children's absences.

Which was why my eldest took her daughter to Spain a few years ago.

'We won't get fined.' she said.

And she was right.

Oh, and incidentally most people in the UK do do something about their ideals. Their ideals are not to go around cowardly shooting and blowing up defenceless people. And they do something about it by, er, not going around cowardly shooting and blowing up defenceless people.

Do you respect paedos for doing something about their ideals by touching up kids? I can't be bothered to go on - I assume you were just after a reaction with your comments, or otherwise you would have to be an utter moron, which I'm sure you aren't.

Still waiting for Naydam's assessment of the psychopaths that butchered Lee Rigby, and yes Roger I too will be interested in his no doubt sophisticated reinterpretation of the Nazis and their death camps. A mouth-watering read awaits us all I'm sure.

AWOL - and no doubt kneeling on a mat somewhere..

Naydam is trying to figure out what the murderers of Lee Rigby have to do with the topic of this thread. The family of twelve from Luton.

Like drawing a boil..

Big catch today Naydam - well done.

Naydam is trying to figure out what the murderers of Lee Rigby have to do with the topic of this thread. The family of twelve from Luton.

Probably to do with the measure of respect one should give to people / groups who carry out insane and inhume actions to support their strongly-held, thoroughly misguided (IMO) beliefs.

As I explained in the first place: It is relatively easy to see the attraction to young males...you get to play the ultimate shoot-em-up game with real guns.
Things become a bit more difficult to understand when there are older, infirm people involved and children, too. I suppose it all depends upon how close they all are as a family AND their reason for wishing to live under the strict regime of Islamic State. Everybody seems to assume that they are moving to Syria to join the IS militia...this may not be correct. They might just want to live their lives in a more devout Islamic manner.
As for the acts of barbarism that are happening at the hands of IS fighters, They have a lot to achieve and little time to do it. They have no diplomatic voice and their aims will not be achieved by negotiation until they are in a position of power.

Anyway, Its not my job to try to help anybody to understand these problems because I don't understand the myself. I just try to see any sense in it.

One thing I DO understand, though. Them Nazis was Christians!

And they have been pilloried by the human race ever since...

I don't see that with Daesh...

naydam if they return to the uk, would you be happy with the family living either side of you?

especially when they unload 20 bags of fertilizer from their car.

Ridiculously, naydam appears to think that once in a position of power, they will be willing to negotiate. One wonders whether the Earth has ever thrown up such a halfwit.

I don't wonder about it, I know.

My eldest daughter is in Spain at the moment.

I'm concerned that she may join Basque Separatists, should I phone Cameron and tell him?

Any photos of her in a Basque ?

Why don't we make it easier for them by organising air travel at a cheap, cost price.

Could even have collectors in supermarket entrances, and around town, to assist with the fund.

Frayed knot.

***CONFIRMED***

They are in Syria...

Have the police apologised yet?

how much would it cost to fly to turkey then Bangladesh and back again for a family of 12? they must be a very well paid family.must be some good paying companies in luton.

Aplogies and recriminations to follow, Alun..

Ye know de score..

they were "tricked" to enter syria.

Zero sympathy for the adults and I hope they aren't let back, but the poor kids going there What sh!t luck to be born in to such a family.

Apparently (great word) there was another daughter from the same family who was stopped at the airport from flying the day before..

Otherwise, we could have had a mussy bakers dozen...

naydam you are surely trolling. Yes, they may well want to live in a more islamic manner. If so there are several places I could think of straight away before settling on one that is a warzone.

Hard to think of anywhere more Islamic than Luton.

Indeed, those in Syria must look on longingly at their own little slice of UK Paradise.

It does rather beggar the mind why they would go all that way, when Lutfur Rahman established his caliphate a decade ago not far from them.

In further reply to points made: NO I would not like them living next door to me. And YES the Nazis have been slated for 'it' ever since...you8 don't see the same happening to Daesh? Where are you looking? I see animosity to Daesh pretty much worldwide!
Why is it that, because I expressed curiosity as to the reasoning of the family members (other than the young men), you feel the need to be so insulting? If any of you don't wonder what the attraction may be...fine. But there is no need harangue somebody who does wonder.

Is there really any need to accuse me of 'respecting' Lee Rigby's killers when that is so obviously NOT what I said.

What these Islamic State fellas are getting up to is no more than a rowdy party when you compare it to track records of the British/Germans/French/Spanish/Ruissians/Japanese/Americans/Chinese/Vietname... and uncle Tom F**king Cobley and all!

They want their own state...and there is only one way to get it. They will have to fight for it just like EVERYBODY else did.
But I still wonder why the old folk went to Syria...I would guess that they were confused and tricked into it. I might be wrong. THEY might be the instigators.

^^^^All just my opinion, of course.

naydam

You realise your stance helps the daesh.

you are a typical excusenic - trying to deflect and confuse

just say you support the terrorist organisation and its ideals.  You will feel much better.

But that isn't so. I don't support anybody.
Just out of interest, Mobo, what is YOUR main complaint against Daesh and how do you think they should proceed?

Sorry, Mobo, I forgot to ask. Why do YOU think this Luton family has gone to Syria?

I see animosity to Daesh pretty much worldwide!

Ever watch the BBC?

Ever read any UK newspapers?

ISIS, IS, Deash, Al Queda, Taliban,

These muzzies have more names than I've had

The BBC say they won't call them Daesh as it might offend them..

The mainstream media is absolutely terrified of them..

They were called Daesh on the BBC programme that I was watching on Tuesday.

I don't like being called a liar..

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/jul/02/bbc-rejects-mps-calls-to-refer-to-islamic-state-as-daesh

you are nearly as dangerous as the people who carry out these acts naydam

naydam the voice of reason

but you do not understand that we are up against unreasonable people
I would include you in that and the fact that your stance indirectly supports daesh.

He's already been exposed after his defence of them burning alive the captured Jordanian pilot.

Wesdag   
01 Jul 15 15:28 
"Feared" to be in Syria according to the BBC.
Why "feared"?
I for one couldn't give a monkey's.

^^^^ 20 minutes after the thread was started.

7 posts and 30 hours later, and he's still on this thread.

I believe that, in the case of the Jordanian pilot, I passed an observation that it should not come as a surprise that IS might have something rather 'special' lined up for a foreign pilot who bombed them with impunity I also pointed out that similar mistreatment awaited British and American bomber crews, should they be captured by the civilian population. I also pointed out that soldiers would generally show little mercy to any flame-thrower operators. All of these trades lead to pretty horrendous deaths for the victims.
But, as nobody made any valid comments to the contrary, I assumed we'd heard thenlast5 of that, Wesdaq.
Would you care to point out where you disagree with what I said and I will do my best to explain. I eagerly await your yapping response.

Sorry, I forgot to ask...Are you sure the footage was real? It looked like CGI to me!

as with naydam

I see napalm and flamethrowers as part of the answer

In reference to the Jordanian pilot he was bombing their country,so as sad and extreme as the punishment was, it was a consequence of his actions.

The deaths in Tunisia, there are some who say that tourists flock to the beaches and the females wear very very little in terms of clothing,again this is totally against their beliefs in how females should dress and behave.

I am just pointing out two reasons how extremists can justify death and murder.It may be alien to ordinary decent people,but that's the way they operate.

In my experience the nature of some people from the middle east,is to over react to what many of us would regard as a difference of opinion on a subject,they will often get extremely argumentative and volatile.

Different folks,different cultures and customs.

Mobo. Sorry, I don't understand your last post.  I don't understand 'as with'. 

spellingandgrammarchecker    02 Jul 15 21:59 
Wesdag   
01 Jul 15 15:28 
"Feared" to be in Syria according to the BBC.
Why "feared"?
I for one couldn't give a monkey's.

^^^^ 20 minutes after the thread was started.

7 posts and 30 hours later, and he's still on this thread.

LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh

.........................

LOL at spelling, the forum's foremost rabble rouser for stalking and hanging on to my every post!
It's very flattering.

Btw, will you be attending the march at Golders Green tomorrow?
Will you choose to show solidarity with your kinfolk?

Must be a real conflict of interest for you.
What a dilemma.

LOL at spelling, the forum's foremost rabble rouser for stalking

^^^^ From the poster who appeared countless times on the CMAT reinstatement thread.

Having rants about somebody who wasn't even here.




Why will it be a dilemma for me?

I've never been on a National Front, BNP, EDL or Britain First march.

Are you not Jewish?

Yes.

Does that mean you expect me to go out and kill muslims?

Not much good for your reputation as a rabble rouser.

My reputation in the real world is just fine.

You stick to trolling, and stay safe.

Stick and stones.

How very dull.

Sticks, I think you mean.

What do you think, duh.

Miss Pedantic.

You're missing a '?' at the end.

Well done!

Just testing your diabetes hasn't started to affect your eyesight.

I'm diabetic?

When did that start?

Thank heavens for that. The family has joined up with IS and feel "safer than ever".

Good job all round.... hope they left a forwarding post office so we can forward their pensions and benefits although they might get their Job Seekers Allowance put on hold whilst they are out of the country.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33393628

I'm more worried about the diabetes that Wesdaq says I have.

Hard to keep up with all your usernames.

So, there we have it, the family are gone and feel "safer than ever".

Reminds me a bit of our very own "Jester from Chester" who famously informed us upon his eagerly-unawaited return to Britain from Africa a few years back that he had felt safer in Africa than anywhere in Britain during that period.

I'm wondering why such individuals aren't leaving here in droves, and why our population is at a record high, with net migration identified as the key factor.  They are hanging off planes, trains and automobiles to get here.

Now that we have a first hand account that ISIS held Syria is a family paradise for devout Muslims in comparison  with Luton, surely it is wrong for us to try and prevent others from emigrating there?

Agreed.

More should be encouraged to go and the media should stop behaving as if this is North Korea.

Seeing as referendums are the 'in' thing at the mo, it might be a good idea to have one running alongside the EU one next year asking Muslims do they want to stay or go..

so many wanting ISIS "wiped off the face of the earth", but tbf they represent a well set up staging and collection point for d1ckheads from across the globe.

'Safer than ever'??????????

Bad day for Luton Tourist Office...

Presumably not all of Syria is a war zone as reported in our press. They've could have just gone on an extended holiday. Lots of places where there is wars us Brits go to but are safe if we stick to the touristy bits.

20 years ago there was none of this muslim bull5hit, so what on earth will it be like 20 years from now...obv...daily Islam attacks and most living in fear here in England!

Wesdaq

I see you're still on the thread that you don't care about. 

How is my diabetes btw?

What day does my recycling dustbin lorry get here?

Does my front lawn need cutting?

spelling,

why is it any of your business?

As I've said before, you do not own the forum.

Please try to remember that.

Wesdag    01 Jul 15 15:28 
"Feared" to be in Syria according to the BBC.

Why "feared"?

I for one couldn't give a monkey's.
................

And for the record, where does it say that I do not care about this thread?

Any half wit could see that I'm referring to the family.

Wesdag
04 Jul 15 22:23   
spelling,
why is it any of your business?

Why was it any of your business when people signed a petitiin to reinstate CMAT? 

As I've said before, you do not own the forum

I must have missed that post.

You need to improve your stalking techniques.

How long have I been diabetic btw?

And for the record, where does it say that I do not care about this thread?

Page 1.
"Feared" to be in Syria according to the BBC.
Why "feared"?
I for one couldn't give a monkey's.

Why are you so bothered?

petitiin

Ah...the classic deviation from the question, with a spelling error.

  Well done for dodging the question, no more than I expected.

Are you a friend of the politics forumite Mexico, he's also good at dodging questions when he's stuck for an answer.

I'll ask you again, why are you so bothered?

ISIS are like one of those bug killer lights. All the crap gets drawn towards it with promises of paradise and are never seen again.

Cant we do one of those australian type things? £10 jihadi's.

I'll ask you again, why are you so bothered?

About what?

Thank goodness.

Kindly go and pick another fight elsewhere.

.
http://tinypic.com/r/514nc8/8

20 years ago there was none of this muslim bull5hit

well not quite.

lets not forget those other sc um bags who used to blow up our soldiers.

lol HH

As a multiculturalist and human rights activist I support the right of these people to go and live in a place where Sharia laws,customs and punishments are strictly enforced.Why stay in racist Britain where the legal minimum age for marriage is sixteen and FGM is not tolerated by the wider society.Young girls in Britain are expected to receive an education.In Muslim lands they will not expect to have to live with homosexuals or persons of different faiths or no faith at all.On top of all this we have institutionalized racism in the Police force and there is a rise in support for neo-nazi groups and UKIP.Their desire to escape from the racism of the indigenous population of Britain is understandable therfore.

Good, let 'em go.