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Got me video up "will johns"
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U Tube
300 views 1st day..............any comments ? |
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Mange do you have a link I cant find it, found him, what a talent!!! I grew up with this stuff played live in the 60s ( God I'm old)when most English groups were playing it, Yardbirds, stones, The Who, etc, and he measures up to the old stuff Just compared the original "need your love so bad" by Little Willie John, and the BB KIng version, and his version stands out.
Thanks for posting . |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FTpejoFPuY
So you write the lyrics and melody Mange? |
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Superb, thanks AG. Love this stuff. To be fair to BB and Little Willie John, "Double voice" (ADT)was not around then, but he has deffo got Soul, great stuff.
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The tune was groovy(great melody/lyrics mange), love the voice but wasn`t keep on the video especially the dancers.
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^^^^He is using it, with a fair amount of reverb and echo, esp on the chorus. It was John Lennon who pioneered ADT at abbey rd studios, everyone (almost everyone) has used it since. Lennons "ordinary" voice was not that "big"
Will Johns has a naturally superb voice, IMO. |
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I think the video was low budget, agree it wasn't very good, perhaps a more natural "Night club style" set up would really suit this music?.
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By the way Mange any tips on completing a song with lyrics would be a blessing.
Ok, so i am noodling away playing some guitar lines and i find a groove, the chorus comes to me first, then perhaps one verse and then i start over analysing the process. The Last Page - lyrically you paint a picture and complete it. I tend to have lyrics scattered all over the place. Any tips on how to complete or does it just fall from the sky for you Mange? |
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Do you play/sing or create or whatever? you seem on the ball. Lennon didn`t like his own voice did he? |
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^^ must have dozens like that, I get far too involved to think through the verses without analysing them to death.
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I don't play, sung lead vocals for many years, I thought my wife and mortgage where more important than pursuing it with the one the singular mind set required, and turned down opportunities. Who knows might have done something, might have flopped!! just didn't give it a real go.
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Not just me then! phew
As soon as i wake up one of the grooves with lyrics will be playing in my head and i think `here we go kid, gonna crack this one today` so i sit down and paralysis by over analysis takes over. Many times more lyrics just drop into my head when i am not expecting,especially when out for a walk with the beat of the walk working like a metronome, but it`s still tough to complete. |
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Probably if i could sing as well as you then maybe more doors would open up with my arrangements. I watched the Mammas and Pappas doc yesterday and the vocal arrangement were magnificent, shows the benefits of writing with vocals with range. |
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I was offered free lessons by Patrick Bashford in 1970 his wife (Anna Raquel Satre) famous in her own right, was giving me classical voice training and a dopey 22 year old me said aawww that's alright Patrick I just want to sing, what a plank!!!, he passed away last year. He was THE professor of classical guitar at the Royal College of music. As I'm sure you know play classical guitar and you can play anything.
Don't know if singing would help, it didn't stop Macca  . I suppose it would actually help, can you not team up (collaborate)with someone??. It depends if you want to write a hit, a 3 minute wonder to pay bills, which they all seem to start on, and the get strong enough to dictate to the "suits" what they really want to play. |
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If it`s any consolation you are in the 99.9% that didn`t give it a go and out of that 0.01% that did and made it 50% of them ended up screwed up, one way or another. |
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Yeah I didn't have the single mindedness (selfisness) or ego required,
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Wow that is some history Box.
Yeah i think i need to find a hippy chick to help me finish off(cough) these songs. A Thea Gilmore type. |
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You could do worse!! at least she would keep coming back to you and have a beautiful day.
 corny but simple. |
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Or she might be looking for an `old soul`
And here it is if you haven`t heard it before Box https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INj4ZrsI_pk |
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Good talking to you, Signing, (and signing) off, heart meds kicking in, Will listen again right now, GN and GL.
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Thanks Box, it`s been good. TC
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I really am off now, I've put the cat out, hold on I don't have one! here's a Leonard Cohen song by Aaron Neville no auto tuning just his voice, soundtrack on the film of the same name. I'm gone......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKDMiyRmbik
I will revisit this thread tomorrow, god I love music  |
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Thanx for the interest.........Its great.........Im trying to write "New Blues"..........I was a bit worried abt this version as the last verse is missing & I was worried that hed took the soul out of it.......but every time I hear it I like it more............(silly init......like me own song)
But he allways claimed that he knew wot he was doing & I feel that its the delivery ..............outstandingAngel G .............start many...........finish few........& youve got to know when its finished..........& then its like showing a fresh caught bass to a chief......hell get exited & explain how hes going to cook it.............Thats wot U got to get from whoever U offer the song to & its like backing a 100/1 wlnner thanx again........................keep lisiening  |
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Thanks mange, i guess only a selected few manage to complete songs regularly.
Well done on this, i will search to discover the blueprint of completion. |
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Keep going AG, sometimes a bit of liquid refreshment loosens the over analytical brain.
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Just one example that you should never overestimate music buyers perspicacity, "Shaddap You Face" written and performed by Joe Dolce, was number one in 13 countries FFSSSSS [:cry: and kept Vienna (Ultravox) off the number one slot for 3 weeks!.
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 Herb used to be the answer box, just think how many of those great songs would remain incomplete without a little help from da herb! |
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Most??
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Mange, been listening to your song again, excellent, inspired, have you had any others published.
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This 1 3 times...............got a song wiv Katie Bradly ?
I usted to promote a few bands..............(small time)..........Johny Wakelin.........(sung the M Ali boxing songs)..........bumped into him once................Hows it going......................Got a BIG lump of money..................someone did a disco version of 1 .....................so U dont know.....................big world...........Will on tour wiv Jack Bruces boy playing my song............................thats enough for me.................... |
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Fair play mange. Good on ya
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Blimey, you lot are full of surprises.
Interesting thread. Great song, Mange. I think Mr Makybe would really like that. I will play it to him when he gets back from his holiday. I like the video, especially the dancers. I think having them in it makes it |