Lottery increase balls to 59 and tell us "we have a better chance of winning"

Just read it, amazing bit of spin, greed has no limits.

If people wanted the new game theyd just play euromillions

Who plays to win another ticket

The people who have the same numbers for the last 20 years are going to feel a bit aggrieved imo.

Will chase people away.

they should change the format each year to protect those that play the same numbers
and become addicted

As I see it, the only figure of any concern regarding chances of 'winning' is the percentage reduction from the pot. If it increases you 'win' less.

By 'winning' I mean your overall chance of making a profit.

They of course are including the fee ticket as winning. Poor marketing imo and time for a new operator.
I think if they want to change the format they should be forced to change the numbers.
ie should now be 51 to 109 which would allow people to change their numbers without worrying about previous numbers used.

Its virtually deception claiming the odds on winning £1m are now 10m/1 just because of raffle, the new odds on win are 45m/1, getting a lucky dip isnt winning at all.

I dont do the lottery but hope this ends camelot.

Tomorrow is the first draw with the extra numbers, see they have added a 25 millionaire draw to it, that should paper over small sales for a week.

It's a tax on the (mathematically) stupid, so it only needs to fool stupid people.

Although, if you permed all the new numbers you have a better chance of winning. All the old school, every draw players wont change theirs.

In Ireland they upped the price to €4 and increased the balls.
We believed them when they said it was better value.
Take your machine and ..... you know the rest.

blackestnight    Joined: 07 Feb 11
Replies: 930 09 Oct 15 22:41 
Although, if you permed all the new numbers you have a better chance of winning. All the old school, every draw players wont change theirs.






I waste loads of money on the lottery because i'm lazy but want to be rich

The new game is absolutely shocking

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I keep banging on about this but they need to stop the rollover.

When people enter this lottery they are playing to win a share of the prize.

To take away that prize must surely be wrong.

If the jackpot is not won, the money should "Roll Down" to the other prize levels.
That would make the prize for 5+1 and 5 and 4 more appealing, and rewarding, than it is now I think.

camelot are greedy c..ts iv stoped doing it and a lot more will but camelot c..ts know when its not won for 5.or 6 weeks punters will come back camelots greedy c..ts

^^^^^^^^^^Sounds like greedy punters, too.

"I keep banging on about this but they need to stop the rollover.

When people enter this lottery they are playing to win a share of the prize."

100% agree. And having bigger rollover jackpots which could peak at 50 million, crazy, a system to create 50 individual millionaires would be better. A million pound is more than enough to satisfy the dreams of any average person.

Just totally agree if the jackpot is not won any week the money should "roll down" to other prize levels.

The odds of winning the big one are currently one in 14 million.
With 59 balls the odds will be one in 45 million.

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This was given to me by a young lad (early twenties) who won £266,000 using the systems.

You need to use the biggest affordable plan (common sense I think) but it's great for syndicates.

I ran it using the £20.00 plan, with four players chucking in £5.00 a week. Well they should have chucked in a fiver,
but I got sick of chasing for it so pulled the plug.

We had seven wins of four numbers and countless wins of three numbers.

Unfortunately it is now redundant until someone amends it for 59 numbers. v

maybe post it in general betting, they love winning strategies there

A game for mugs.

A tax in all but name.

I'm not playing from tonight on.

Camelot are banking on the fact that people are so dumb and hooked, they won't know the difference.

Rather like having "smoking kills" on cigarette packets.

Years ago I got five numbers on the Irish lotto, and won a car on the same day.
I was a much better gambler then.

53 & 54


The finishing touch to turn off most of those still playing

Lottery site is still down at 9am -- presumably the Camelot IT Test And QA department missed that one program that runs overnight and absolutely *knows* there are only 49 numbers.

OVER £3,000,000 taken out the prize fund for the 2 number free lucky dip farce.Camelot are taking the p iss.

£2 a go get two numbers & get a -------- free go, could someone explain how that is supposed to be a WIN, yet that is what Camelot are spouting off when they say more winners

the government is complicit in all man's weaknesses..making absolute fortune's out of people's 'weaknesses'..drink,smoking,gambling
it was ever thus and will remain so

Last night if you matched 5 numbers you won £2040

That's landing a 144,415/1 shot



If you landed 7.5million/1 shot and got 5+bonus ball yout won £120k




They've clearly gone the big jackpot route like euromillions but it will take ages before it gets to £80million+

What fooking idiot dreamt this one up ...49 to 59 numbers ?
Odds of winning before approx 14 milion to one.
Odds now with 59 numbers ...45 million (?) to one and (quote) a better chance of winning ?
Errrr am I missing something ?

Its called taking the piss out of your customers, hopefully it will go horribly wrong. Maybe another ratners.

I got 5 numbers a few months ago as some may remember, once I got over the disappointment of missing out on the big one I was grateful for winning a 12 hundred quid, even in the odds are actually 55,000/1, now I'm really not even going to bother, was fun when it was a pound to play, but now doubled and with much greater odds? with the 1 extra millionaire carrot being dangled as if that's gonner help, they'd be better off making 100 people 10k winners rather than 1 person a millionaire.

I still think abut number 43, the number I didn't get
And number 47, the number I wrongly chose

Ticket sales were disappointing but I dare say Camelot will be banking on higher sales when the inevitable rollovers kick in. I'm not convinced -- surely those people chasing the headline numbers without regard to the odds will still prefer the Euromillions?

Top Prize Winner  1 €250,000
Match 5 + Bonus 0 €2,500
Match 5 22 €250
Match 4 + Bonus 64 €25
Match 4 895 €10
Match 3 + Bonus 1,504 €5


Irish Lottery is just as bad, the above are the returns for the lotto 2 draw on Saturday, numbers 1-47 and 2 euro a go, 6/4 for 3 numbers and the bonus lol x

The 25 x £1 million raffles will have helped sales watch them plummet on Wednesday!

Rockinron
Errrr am I missing something ?
Yeah. There are more numbers you can get, so your chance are greater.

It was bad enough when they put the price up from £1 to £2, but now with odds of 45 million to 1, the odds for you being a winner are effectively zero.

People will still buy tickets because of the high jackpot amounts.

True Zazu except the lotto rollover is capped at 50m, the lotto now looks too much like Euromillions, were as for £1 and with 49 numbers originally it fitted in the middle of Thunderball and said Euro. A mate of mine who is 48 has now switched from his 6/7 lottery perm to a Thunderball ticket covering all 14 thunder alls for the same price £14. He said £565,000 is enough for him to retire. It was his first week of doing this and he got 3 numbers for a return of £150.  As he does it Saturday only that will pay for his entries for the rest of the year

Match 6    £0 (jackpot was £7.7million)
Match 5+B £29,645   
Match 5    £931   
Match 4    £91   
Match 3    £25   

10 extra numbers and the prizes are no better than before

On the Thunderball thing, if its £14 a go surely thats £728 a year?

He said for the rest of the year, it's October you disptick

I lived in France just outside Paris in the 1990's and they ran a lottery on a Wednesday  and Saturday it was half price on Wednesday
and it also contained a 1 million franc win if your ticket number matched the ticket number drawn so basically Camelot have just copied
the French lottery except they still as far as I know have 49 numbers...So its nothing new or innovative that camelot are doing....