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fool proof
16 Jun 15 15:56
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They must think everybody in the country is stupid.Hopefully it is the final nail in the coffin for a rancid firm like Camelot.
http://www.itv.com/news/2015-06-16/national-lottery-announces-changes-that-will-give-players-better-chance-of-winning/

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By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 16 Jun 15 16:04
Just read it, amazing bit of spin, greed has no limits.
By:
Zazu
When: 16 Jun 15 16:39
If people wanted the new game theyd just play euromillions

Who plays to win another ticket Crazy
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 16 Jun 15 16:45
The people who have the same numbers for the last 20 years are going to feel a bit aggrieved imo.
By:
akabula
When: 16 Jun 15 17:02
Will chase people away.
By:
donny osmond
When: 16 Jun 15 17:02
they should change the format each year to protect those that play the same numbers
and become addicted
By:
naydam
When: 16 Jun 15 17:06
As I see it, the only figure of any concern regarding chances of 'winning' is the percentage reduction from the pot. If it increases you 'win' less.
By:
naydam
When: 16 Jun 15 17:08
By 'winning' I mean your overall chance of making a profit.
By:
akabula
When: 16 Jun 15 17:13
They of course are including the fee ticket as winning. Poor marketing imo and time for a new operator.
I think if they want to change the format they should be forced to change the numbers.
ie should now be 51 to 109 which would allow people to change their numbers without worrying about previous numbers used.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 16 Jun 15 17:13
Its virtually deception claiming the odds on winning £1m are now 10m/1 just because of raffle, the new odds on win are 45m/1, getting a lucky dip isnt winning at all.

I dont do the lottery but hope this ends camelot.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 09 Oct 15 19:23
Tomorrow is the first draw with the extra numbers, see they have added a 25 millionaire draw to it, that should paper over small sales for a week.
By:
PatraTheCat
When: 09 Oct 15 21:32
It's a tax on the (mathematically) stupid, so it only needs to fool stupid people.
By:
blackestnight
When: 09 Oct 15 21:41
Although, if you permed all the new numbers you have a better chance of winning. All the old school, every draw players wont change theirs.
By:
kincsem
When: 10 Oct 15 00:57
In Ireland they upped the price to €4 and increased the balls.
We believed them when they said it was better value.
Take your machine and ..... you know the rest. Laugh
By:
Zazu
When: 10 Oct 15 01:46
blackestnight    Joined: 07 Feb 11
Replies: 930 09 Oct 15 22:41 
Although, if you permed all the new numbers you have a better chance of winning. All the old school, every draw players wont change theirs.


Confused




I waste loads of money on the lottery because i'm lazy but want to be rich

The new game is absolutely shocking

E
By:
Aunty Post
When: 10 Oct 15 06:27
I keep banging on about this but they need to stop the rollover.

When people enter this lottery they are playing to win a share of the prize.

To take away that prize must surely be wrong.

If the jackpot is not won, the money should "Roll Down" to the other prize levels.
That would make the prize for 5+1 and 5 and 4 more appealing, and rewarding, than it is now I think.
By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 10 Oct 15 08:38
camelot are greedy c..ts iv stoped doing it and a lot more will but camelot c..ts know when its not won for 5.or 6 weeks punters will come back camelots greedy c..ts
By:
naydam
When: 10 Oct 15 10:02
^^^^^^^^^^Sounds like greedy punters, too.
By:
Hound-Dog-2
When: 10 Oct 15 10:39
"I keep banging on about this but they need to stop the rollover.

When people enter this lottery they are playing to win a share of the prize."


100% agree. And having bigger rollover jackpots which could peak at 50 million, crazy, a system to create 50 individual millionaires would be better. A million pound is more than enough to satisfy the dreams of any average person.

Just totally agree if the jackpot is not won any week the money should "roll down" to other prize levels.

The odds of winning the big one are currently one in 14 million.
With 59 balls the odds will be one in 45 million.
By:
Aunty Post
When: 10 Oct 15 13:52
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This was given to me by a young lad (early twenties) who won £266,000 using the systems.

You need to use the biggest affordable plan (common sense I think) but it's great for syndicates.

I ran it using the £20.00 plan, with four players chucking in £5.00 a week. Well they should have chucked in a fiver,
but I got sick of chasing for it so pulled the plug.

We had seven wins of four numbers and countless wins of three numbers.

Unfortunately it is now redundant until someone amends it for 59 numbers. v
By:
brendanuk1
When: 10 Oct 15 13:56
maybe post it in general betting, they love winning strategies there
By:
Wesdag
When: 10 Oct 15 14:26
A game for mugs.

A tax in all but name.
By:
Clerkmore
When: 10 Oct 15 15:42
I'm not playing from tonight on.
By:
Wesdag
When: 10 Oct 15 18:10
Camelot are banking on the fact that people are so dumb and hooked, they won't know the difference.

Rather like having "smoking kills" on cigarette packets.
By:
kincsem
When: 10 Oct 15 19:56
Years ago I got five numbers on the Irish lotto, and won a car on the same day.
I was a much better gambler then.
By:
pumphol.
When: 10 Oct 15 21:07
53 & 54 LaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh


The finishing touch to turn off most of those still playing Mischief
By:
Ramruma
When: 11 Oct 15 07:59
Lottery site is still down at 9am -- presumably the Camelot IT Test And QA department missed that one program that runs overnight and absolutely *knows* there are only 49 numbers.
By:
fool proof
When: 11 Oct 15 08:35
OVER £3,000,000 taken out the prize fund for the 2 number free lucky dip farce.Camelot are taking the p iss.
By:
pumphol.
When: 11 Oct 15 11:49
£2 a go get two numbers & get a -------- free go, could someone explain how that is supposed to be a WIN, yet that is what Camelot are spouting off when they say more winners Shocked
By:
johnnythebull
When: 11 Oct 15 11:54
the government is complicit in all man's weaknesses..making absolute fortune's out of people's 'weaknesses'..drink,smoking,gambling
it was ever thus and will remain so
By:
Zazu
When: 11 Oct 15 16:08
Last night if you matched 5 numbers you won £2040

That's landing a 144,415/1 shot



If you landed 7.5million/1 shot and got 5+bonus ball yout won £120k




They've clearly gone the big jackpot route like euromillions but it will take ages before it gets to £80million+
By:
Rockinron
When: 11 Oct 15 21:13
What fooking idiot dreamt this one up ...49 to 59 numbers ?
Odds of winning before approx 14 milion to one.
Odds now with 59 numbers ...45 million (?) to one and (quote) a better chance of winning ?
Errrr am I missing something ?
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 11 Oct 15 21:30
Its called taking the piss out of your customers, hopefully it will go horribly wrong. Maybe another ratners.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 11 Oct 15 23:37
I got 5 numbers a few months ago as some may remember, once I got over the disappointment of missing out on the big one I was grateful for winning a 12 hundred quid, even in the odds are actually 55,000/1, now I'm really not even going to bother, was fun when it was a pound to play, but now doubled and with much greater odds? with the 1 extra millionaire carrot being dangled as if that's gonner help, they'd be better off making 100 people 10k winners rather than 1 person a millionaire.

I still think abut number 43, the number I didn't getGrin
And number 47, the number I wrongly choseSad
By:
Ramruma
When: 12 Oct 15 02:07
Ticket sales were disappointing but I dare say Camelot will be banking on higher sales when the inevitable rollovers kick in. I'm not convinced -- surely those people chasing the headline numbers without regard to the odds will still prefer the Euromillions?
By:
laystheway
When: 12 Oct 15 10:04
Top Prize Winner  1 €250,000
Match 5 + Bonus 0 €2,500
Match 5 22 €250
Match 4 + Bonus 64 €25
Match 4 895 €10
Match 3 + Bonus 1,504 €5


Irish Lottery is just as bad, the above are the returns for the lotto 2 draw on Saturday, numbers 1-47 and 2 euro a go, 6/4 for 3 numbers and the bonus lol x
By:
TommyBarnes
When: 12 Oct 15 13:08
The 25 x £1 million raffles will have helped sales watch them plummet on Wednesday!
By:
kincsem
When: 12 Oct 15 14:07
Rockinron
Errrr am I missing something ?

Yeah. There are more numbers you can get, so your chance are greater. Laugh
By:
TELL DEL
When: 12 Oct 15 14:34
It was bad enough when they put the price up from £1 to £2, but now with odds of 45 million to 1, the odds for you being a winner are effectively zero.
By:
Zazu
When: 12 Oct 15 15:24
People will still buy tickets because of the high jackpot amounts.
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