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Apparently he was a really nice chap..

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/isis-teen-becomes-britains-youngest-5880967
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Report a bitofinterest June 14, 2015 9:07 PM BST
these things can happen if you neglect to wear a hi vis
Report YOMOMMA June 14, 2015 9:12 PM BST
All the hoodlums in the world are either straight A students or promising young footballers. Tabloids favourite stories.
Report HH Sultan Vinegar June 14, 2015 9:13 PM BST
as the country's youngest suicide bomber, will he go into the Guinness2d Book of Records?
Report Ibrahima Sonko June 14, 2015 9:14 PM BST
From a good family.
Report YOMOMMA June 14, 2015 9:15 PM BST
Who reads the mirror?
Report guinness2dear June 14, 2015 9:15 PM BST
I would have added him to my chainsaw list, HH, but he's unfortunately gone awol (in several directions)
Report HH Sultan Vinegar June 14, 2015 9:17 PM BST
yeah he and his parents in bits. Should seek apologies from police and social services really.
Report Ibrahima Sonko June 14, 2015 9:20 PM BST
A 17-year-old from Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, is thought to have become Britain’s youngest suicide bomber after leaving home to join Islamic State in March. Talha Asmal, who is believed to have reached Iraq via a holiday flight to Turkey on 31 March, blew himself up in the northern Iraqi town of Baiji.

The Guardian reports that the suicide attacks are understood to have occurred in Iraq’s Salahuddin province, around one of the country’s largest oil refineries, as part of a larger IS offensive.

On Saturday evening social media accounts linked to Islamic State (IS) released pictures related to the bombing. Those photographs are now being investigated by West Yorkshire Police. They showed four suicide bombers, one of whom was named as Abu Yusuf al-Britani.

A smiling Britani is shown standing beside a black Toyota SUV and sitting on the ground while apparently receiving instructions from a commander. West Yorkshire police have not yet publicly confirmed whether Britani is Asmal. The remaining three Islamist extremists are believed to be German, Kuwaiti and Palestinian.

The Mirror reports that Asmal/Britani boarded his flight to Turkey with his 17-year-old friend Hassan Munshi more than two months ago. At the time the pair’s families described them as “two ordinary Yorkshire lads” with promising futures “who enjoyed the things that all young people enjoy at their age.”

Breitbart London previously reported that Hassan is the younger brother of Hammaad Munshi. He became Britain’s youngest convicted terrorist following his 2006 arrest at the age of 15 over his role in a plot to murder non-Muslims. He was found to have been stockpiling terror guides, including files from the internet about making napalm, detonators and grenades.

The Munshis are grandsons of prominent Islamic scholar Yakub Munshi. Thought to be a senior figure at Dewsbury’s Markazi Masjid, Yakub Munshi was reportedly the driving force behind the creation of Dewsbury’s first sharia court.

In 2006, The Daily Mail linked the Markazi Masjid to Tablighi Jamaat, “a radical Islamic movement believed by intelligence agencies to be a fertile source for recruiting young extremists.” At the same time The Times stated that French intelligence labelled the group an “antechamber of fundamentalism” and The Telegraph wrote of it under the headline “Army of Darkness.”

The previous youngest British suicide bomber, Hasib Hussein, was 18 when he exploded a bomb on a London bus in the ‘7/7′ attacks of July 2005. He was also from West Yorkshire.
Report guinness2dear June 14, 2015 9:26 PM BST
Integration and infiltration..
Report Foinavon June 14, 2015 11:02 PM BST
He's with his virgins now.
Report Eeternaloptimist June 14, 2015 11:07 PM BST
He won't be happy if they've run out of girls.
Report Capt__F June 14, 2015 11:28 PM BST
thanks for report IS (sic)
Who cares !
Report Ovalman. June 14, 2015 11:29 PM BST
My personal opinion as an Atheist.

There is a caliphate that wants to convert and kill infidels. We are the infidels.

We have to send troops and crush these bastards. I know a few Muslims that are genuine people but they cannot take over.

Sorry if I sound a bigot but people need to be secular.
Report Foinavon June 14, 2015 11:35 PM BST
I'm with you Ovalman but it's a mad mad world out there.
Report Eeternaloptimist June 14, 2015 11:35 PM BST
The luvvies spent the 60's, 70's and 80's convincing a mildly religious (births, deaths and marriages) country that we really needed to be a secular society and any fuss about religious satire was childish nonsense. What a complete volte face they undertook when the mussies started wailing. Now the poor luvvies are like rabbits in headlights. They don't know if they need a shiit, shave or haircut.
Report Ovalman. June 14, 2015 11:52 PM BST
Enoch Powell was an Ulster Unionist, he foreseen the problem. His view may have been racist but it was correct.

I'm an Ulster Unionist but I'm a pragmatist. It's hit the fan now how do we deal with it?

Stop giving concessions to any mosque builds or Islams concerns. I'm anti religions but Islam is vile.
Report Ibrahima Sonko June 15, 2015 10:14 AM BST
Whole town in shock, evil groomers condemned.
Report ebulGery June 15, 2015 3:40 PM BST
Blowing oneself up..takes some courage

People do not do this unless they have a committed cause

We need to find out the cause and why young men feel the need to do this

Unless we start some degree of intelligence, nothing will ever be solved
Report ebulGery June 15, 2015 3:41 PM BST
using some degree of intelligence
Report mobo June 15, 2015 3:48 PM BST
It is all part of islam  read the good book - it's all there.   The inventor was a bloodthirsty maniac who wanted total control and the love for young people comes directly from him.
Report geoff m June 15, 2015 3:58 PM BST
Straight A student really nice chap. But deep down must have been a fookin nutter.
Report Danno June 15, 2015 4:01 PM BST
- where's your son?

- er, he's gone on holiday.

- where to?

- he got a flight to Turkey.

- two weeks away with his mates is it?

- er, don't think so.  He's been gone for two months.

- aren't you worried about him?

- no, he's a straight a student.  Typical Yorkshire lad.  He'll be 'reet.

Astonishing that parents can allow their children to disappear for months on end, with apparently not even the slightest concern for where they might be, or who with.  I just don't believe the parents could be so detached from their offspring's lives that they can turn into terrorists in their bedrooms without them even asking a few simple questions or raising concerns within their own communities.  They are either appalling parents who shouldn't be allowed to have children, or total morons.  Or they are complicit.
Report Dr Crippen June 15, 2015 4:20 PM BST
The luvvies spent the 60's, 70's and 80's convincing a mildly religious (births, deaths and marriages) country that we really needed to be a secular society and any fuss about religious satire was childish nonsense. What a complete volte face they undertook when the mussies started wailing. Now the poor luvvies are like rabbits in headlights. They don't know if they need a shiit, shave or haircut.

That needed repeating.

And on Saturday we had a Labour MP Ian Austin, leading a crowd of Muslins through Dudley town centre in support of the building of a super mosque and Muslim community centre, that has come in for bitter opposition from the locals.

With the birthrate for these people being so high, is this a case of Labour coming out into the open and openly playing the long game now?

One thing is for sure though - vote Labour get Islam.
Report elise June 15, 2015 4:38 PM BST
clearly didn't get an A in chemistry
Report khyber kim June 15, 2015 4:40 PM BST
At least we don't have to let him back in. I hope his travelling companion was sat next to him.

Dewsbury is a horrid place now they all look radicalised. Groups of Daleks swanning around the big Asda there.

Had to take the wife for a minor op at Dewsbury Hospital, called in Asda to kill time. Never again.
Report Dr Crippen June 15, 2015 4:55 PM BST
Sadly khyber kim, that scene is all too common all over the country now.
Report Dr Crippen June 15, 2015 4:56 PM BST
My grammar - ugh.
Report mobo June 15, 2015 5:54 PM BST
But there are plenty who defend them.  It is quite frightening how many organisations and people are prepared to do this.
Report breadnbutter June 15, 2015 6:08 PM BST
Chemistry ,physics ,electronics, mechanical engineering and Religious Studies  should be a warning sign imo .

BBC are quick to put his picture up ,wont for any other ethnic criminal but keen here ,should not be given the publicity .

should be returned to his parents in a bin liner
Report Burton-Brewers June 15, 2015 6:15 PM BST
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoRLIJJSG4o
Report artie June 15, 2015 6:17 PM BST
EbulGerry "We need to find out the cause and why young men feel the need to do this"
Sexually repressed.Spend their teenage years fantasising about getting stuck into virgins.
Report paddletoe June 15, 2015 6:25 PM BST
Some of the reports about systematic rapes carried out by these people make it clear there is a sexual lure which is attracting men to join.
Report artie June 15, 2015 6:28 PM BST
Is not fighting against ones' sexual desires a part of Islam ?
Report pumphol. June 15, 2015 6:36 PM BST
Any news on what happens to the " virgins " when the inevitable happens & they are no longer untouched Plain
Report mobo June 15, 2015 6:38 PM BST
I'll have them!!!
Report posy June 15, 2015 6:47 PM BST
No doubt they'll wheel out the community leaders who'll complain that it's the Government's fault.Personally i'd close down all the mosques in the country and if they don't like it they can get out.Religion is the biggest catastrophe the world has to deal with and the sooner we all give up on the mumbo jumbo the better it will be. Until that utopian dream is realised we have to put up with Christianity the national religion of England however all  other religions in this country should be banned and anyone who flouts this proposal deported.
Report mobo June 15, 2015 7:03 PM BST
Malik has already said on sky news something on the lines of 'where was social services etc on this one - under 18 and all that'

can you imagine social workers going into every family with an under 18 to check on their level of radicalisation.

Do they not understand that Islam is radical??
Report mad mad moon June 15, 2015 7:58 PM BST
Anyone else see his "friend" interviewed on the 6 o clock news.
Sounded camp as a box of frogs. Dont think that will go down well at the local mosque.
Report ebulGery June 15, 2015 11:01 PM BST
He was a straight A student, he was intelligent, he made an intelligent decision

People who thinks anyone would blow themselves just for mythical virgins...must have the intelligence of a donut in my opinion
Would they?

Yes we need to root out radical preachers who encourage this(deport them)..but these preachers need something to work on

So we need to find the grievance these people have


Just attacking Islam is totally pointless, it will only strengthen Muslim's belief
I note Islam has existed since 700 AD, yet we have only had problems with Muslims for about 25 years....
There was no problem with Islam before that

So I suggest Islam cannot be the cause, so think what else it may be?
Report guinness2dear June 15, 2015 11:05 PM BST
Ever heard of The Crusades, Ebul?
Report ebulGery June 15, 2015 11:10 PM BST
Laugh
FFS Guinness that ended over 700Cry years ago..and we complain Muslims live in the past

Plus it was not Muslim's attacking us, it was us attacking them
Report guinness2dear June 15, 2015 11:13 PM BST
Aye, after they had wiped out the Arabian Peninsula, Ebul.

Muhammad started his ethnic cleansing in the 7th century, btw..
Report ebulGery June 15, 2015 11:18 PM BST
In the 7th century you are saying Europe was a land of peace?

In the 7th century everyone did ethnic cleansing!, you cannot judge modern people

by what happened over 1300 hundred years ago
Report guinness2dear June 15, 2015 11:22 PM BST
Of course i can. When the same book-belief is followed..

And when did Europe try and 'cleanse' Muslims? You stated "we" attacked them, we didn't..
Report ebulGery June 15, 2015 11:24 PM BST
Read the history of the Crusades, for God sake!
Report Roger The Butler June 15, 2015 11:25 PM BST
We can afford to let 13 more people in now we have lost this fella and the 12 from Bradford.
Report guinness2dear June 15, 2015 11:26 PM BST
Eh? Are you being serious? I've just told you who started the Muslim Conquests. 300 years before The Crusades ye barmpot..
Report ebulGery June 15, 2015 11:29 PM BST
You are a barmpot yourself...

You are totally obsessed with Muslims, you are a complete anti Muslim Bigot!

I stand by my posts
Report Capt__F June 15, 2015 11:30 PM BST
ruck sack on
Report guinness2dear June 15, 2015 11:31 PM BST
Go and phuck yerself you numbnut.
Report ebulGery June 15, 2015 11:32 PM BST
guinness2dear  • June 15, 2015 11:31 PM BST 


Go and phuck yerself you numbnut.


Well you can go phuck yourself as well you complete numbnut!
Report guinness2dear June 15, 2015 11:32 PM BST
Btw, your posts are full of **** and of course wrong..

The fact that ye just got a history lesson from your betters, obviously wrangles a fair bit..
Report guinness2dear June 15, 2015 11:33 PM BST
Ah, but i'm a cultured numbnut. Ye are just a muslim apologist..
Report ebulGery June 15, 2015 11:34 PM BST
You do know anything about History, you are an ignoramus, so stuff that where the sun don't you ar$ehole
Report guinness2dear June 15, 2015 11:35 PM BST
Well that was cultured. Would you like me to give ye another history lesson?
Report ebulGery June 15, 2015 11:36 PM BST
F.off you ****
Report ebulGery June 15, 2015 11:36 PM BST
w anker
Report guinness2dear June 15, 2015 11:37 PM BST
I suggest some more ribena in yer diet, Ebul. Focuses the mind..
Report ebulGery June 15, 2015 11:40 PM BST
You are terrified the Muslims are going to destroy us ...how can they you dickhead

Where are there Nuclear weapons, nuclear submarines, satellites, you must be a sad pathetic creature

if you think the Muslims threaten us, go hide in the loo, you worm
Report guinness2dear June 15, 2015 11:43 PM BST
I fear for your sanity, Ebul. I really do. Go and book yerself in with someone in the morrow (preferably a muslim consultant)
Report ebulGery June 15, 2015 11:45 PM BST
That is long gone too late there

I am not a Muslim I am a communist, we communists support the Arab cause

not that other lot who should not be there it is not their country, the middle east is Arab land
Report guinness2dear June 15, 2015 11:47 PM BST
I can give ye a lesson on that as well if yer promise not to self-combust?
Report ebulGery June 15, 2015 11:48 PM BST
go ahead
Report guinness2dear June 15, 2015 11:49 PM BST
You sure?
Report guinness2dear June 15, 2015 11:55 PM BST
I do hope you haven't combusted already, Ebul..

Plesheth, was inhabited by Hebrews and some nomad tribes. Long before the one-eyed bald coot decided it was arab land..
Report Capt__F June 15, 2015 11:56 PM BST
seconds out
Report ebulGery June 15, 2015 11:59 PM BST
You see I know Mohammed rallied the Arab cause and took over the Middle East in the 7th century

But then a lot of other nations have had similar ideas, look at all the Empires around the world, look at us

How we have invaded and exploited other countries all over this planet. Does this make us a threat to all other countries?

And yes the Crusades did attack Palestine an Arab Country, we occupied all the Middle after WW1, and more recently we have attacked Iraq and Libya

You ignore all this and are still harking back to the 7th century, I think you are being very selective.


The Hebrew claim expired a long time ago. It is the fact we tried to reverse history, which is the base cause of all our present problems.

So nothing that happens now is about religion at all, it is about land..Palestine, which has been stolen from the Arabs

Plus all religions want to convert everyone else, including our own Christianity, nothing unusual in that
Report guinness2dear June 16, 2015 12:00 AM BST
Might take a while for him to find Plesheth in the Arabian dictionary..
Report guinness2dear June 16, 2015 12:05 AM BST
Ye have a very selective view of history, Ebul. Nowt fresh there as it is an Arabian trait.

Palestine (Plesheth) was never Arab land.
Report Capt__F June 16, 2015 12:08 AM BST
Ebu

you're Googling between replies n'est ca pas
Report ebulGery June 16, 2015 12:10 AM BST
Neither does the United States belong to the whites, perhaps we should give in to the Native American Indians?


The Arab claim is more recent, and they have been there a long time.

Still I don't expect Israel to be going anywhere now,

The Arabs are also fighting amongst themselves over which version of Islam they should use

I think the rest of the World is safe for a while
Report ebulGery June 16, 2015 12:10 AM BST
NO Capt FLaugh
Report guinness2dear June 16, 2015 12:12 AM BST
I think the rest of the World is safe for a while

Until Iran gets NUCLEAR..
Report ebulGery June 16, 2015 12:14 AM BST
Leave it out...how could they use them?..they would be annihilated themselves
Report ilikewavingatbuses June 16, 2015 12:14 AM BST
Northern soul is the answer.
Report guinness2dear June 16, 2015 12:15 AM BST
I am beginning to lose the will to live.. How can ye debate with an idiot.

As my old long lost great great Grandpappy Mark said.....

Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference
Report ebulGery June 16, 2015 12:16 AM BST
Don't do that Guiness please

I was thinking the same of you

It aint worth it
Report guinness2dear June 16, 2015 12:18 AM BST
Leave it out...how could they use them?..they would be annihilated themselves

And there ye have it, if proof was needed..

Of course a nation of suicide bombers would care about themselves...
Report boxingthefox June 16, 2015 12:20 AM BST
Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference,  LaughLaughLaughLaugh
G2D, I will use that, with your kind permission.
Report ebulGery June 16, 2015 12:22 AM BST
I do not think everybody in Iran are suicide bombers, otherwise there would be nobody left

You are panicking unnecessarily Guiness

Your whole argument with Islam is based around what was said in 700 AD, is that reasonable?
Report boxingthefox June 16, 2015 12:23 AM BST
My old Granny used to say, "you can't educate pork" ........that is not aimed at anyone on this thread, just putting it out there.
Report Capt__F June 16, 2015 12:25 AM BST
police state
Report boxingthefox June 16, 2015 12:25 AM BST
ebul, are you a Socialist?.
Report guinness2dear June 16, 2015 12:26 AM BST
Pork was perhaps not the preferred word on this ere fred, BTF?

I can't even be bothered to answer that nonsensical utterence above your post. The man? is deranged and ribena starved..
Report ebulGery June 16, 2015 12:32 AM BST
I take it that refers to my postLaugh

Not only are you obsessed with Islam and what was said in 700 AD, but you also appear to be obsessed

with  blackcurrant juice Guiness.
Report boxingthefox June 16, 2015 12:38 AM BST
The trouble with Socialists is that they have nothing!, and want to share it with everyone.

"Neither does the United States belong to the whites, perhaps we should give in to the Native American Indians?"

Incidentally ebul, when the so called "Native Americans", IE, the Mongols crossed the Bering Straits, 12,000 - 7,000 B.C. and wiped out the inhabitants there were no bleedin hearts like yourself to protest.

Learn your history before extolling it's presumed accuracy .

Good night gents and good luck tomorrow.
Report ebulGery June 16, 2015 12:42 AM BST
12,000Shocked - 7000 BC come off it, this becoming ridiculousLaugh

How far back are we going to go?

I have fair knowledge of History I think, but a bit weak in the 12,000Bc period I admit
Report boxingthefox June 16, 2015 12:50 AM BST
Do you mind!! I'm trying to go to bed!, if time is inconsequential, the who sets the parameters?? YOU????
Report boxingthefox June 16, 2015 12:51 AM BST
the* then
Report ebulGery June 16, 2015 1:01 AM BST
Look if we go back far enough, we will find nobody probably lived where they live now

It is also not how far back we go either, it is also how long people have lived where they live now

Also few countries have ever been created by peaceful negotiation, it has all been done by right of conquest.

Our own country we consider Anglo Saxon( or used toSad)..but you see the Angles and Saxons were invaders

We were a Celtic country. And even the Celts invaded I think.

So I think we do need to set dates, but I agree not necessarily by me.

ps
If we go back even further, we will find our country was occupied by Neanderthal Man...so unless we bring in a date limit
Everybody in in this country who is not a bona fida Neanderthal is an illegal immigrant!
Report boxingthefox June 16, 2015 1:06 AM BST
"Everybody in in this country who is not a bona fida Neanderthal" if they wear a football shirt as casual wear then...................
Report ebulGery June 16, 2015 1:08 AM BST
v good..I am done,

interesting discussion, once we got past the insult stage
Report boxingthefox June 16, 2015 1:08 AM BST
ebul, just having the craic, all the best. Happy
Report polybot June 16, 2015 5:50 AM BST
ebulGery

I am not a Muslim I am a communist, we communists support the Arab cause


communists invented the suide bomb, killed over 100 million in the 20th century for political heresy, annialated opposing religions, are mindlessly led by dictators who preach the holy book written by a bearded old dude from the distant past.
yep, I can see why Ebul is such an apolgist for islam.
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