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Why does the 'Naked Rambler' keep getting jailed
Why does the 'Naked Rambler' keep getting jailed
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You would not want to bump into him if your out for a walk with your family but he seems harmless in other ways.
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If I was by myself or even with my wife and passed him out for a ramble and he was lost and needed directions we would both happily stop to help. Definatley would not be complaining to the polis. But there is a time and place for dome things.
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how little could he wear to prevent being arrested then?
a fig leaf two fig leaves? who decides? |
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These laws dont apply to women
By the way.................... |
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Dr Crippen
20 Jun 15 18:10 Joined: 16 Apr 02 | Topic/replies: 20,207 | Blogger: Dr Crippen's blog Gin, you're trying to justify sending someone to jail for nine years for committing a string of minor offences. If they had started to let him off after sending him to jail for a couple of short stays, it would still deter others from going around naked. I would say the exact opposite – the reason there are not more “naked ramblers” is the fact that this guy keeps getting locked up as he continues to break the law. In fact, I wouldn’t mind betting that if they gave up jailing him it wouldn’t be too long before other “naked Ramblers” appeared. Just because it is a minor offence that should make no difference and the police have no real option other than to continually prosecute him. Otherwise you are saying to people that if they continue for long enough then they can be above the law. |
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Why don't they arrest naked bike riders?
As asked in the OP. One turned up with the last lot sporting a hard on. He want arrested for indecent exposure though, he was simply told 'put your jeans on' The naked rambler is just naked, he doesn't walk around with a flag pole sticking out from his loins. |
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Otherwise you are saying to people that if they continue for long enough then they can be above the law.
That's exactly what they did with him in Scotland. They let him go and washed their hands of him |
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Dr Crippen sounds like the kind of person who likes to whip his **** out at the Morrisons deli counter.
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 I won't try their delis any moreI still think this man needs help more than punishment You see he does not think he is doing wrong...so by definition he must be insane Still if he was kept in a psychiatric secure unit he would still have to be locked up..they would not allow him to stroll round the hospital naked Still we prefer to punish people with mental health problems now instead of help, because society does not want to pay for their care We live in a pretty appalling society now imo |
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You see we have nudists who may go naked in their own house or an enclosed garden
and go away for nudist holidays But they would not usually go and do the days shopping, turn up for work, or go on the tube, etc. stark naked...it just aint done But this man would, so I do not see how he can be sane?????? |
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He does know he is doing wrong and is most likely doing it to get a thrill like most other people who commit acts of public indecency and breach of the peaces.
After his couple of years of rambling where some may have had a certain sympathy for him for continuing with his "goal" he got on a plane, fully clothed (which he wouldn't have been able to get on had he turned up at the airport nude) then proceeded to go to the toilet and strip completely nude and come out, sit back in his seat and refuse to get dressed when asked to by the flight attendants. The police then had to meet the plane at the arrival gate to arrest him. Anybody like Dr Crippen who suggests a man in his late forties stripping naked on an aeroplane and causing the police to be called to meet the aeroplane at the arrival gate isn't causing anybody else any harm must need their headchecked. But this man would, so I do not see how he can be sane?????? On that basis anybody who commits are criminal offence is insane. |
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He does know he is doing wrong and is most likely doing it to get a thrill like most other people who commit acts of public indecency and breach of the peace.
I doubt it, but if that is your view What good is punishing him, he just does it again I do not think he is sane myself |
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Shrewd_dude
Joined: 12 May 05 Replies: 3631 25 Jun 15 04:17 ''Anybody like Dr Crippen who suggests a man in his late forties stripping naked on an aeroplane and causing the police to be called to meet the aeroplane at the arrival gate isn't causing anybody else any harm must need their headchecked.'' Where did a say that? It's not me that needs my head checked. It's you that needs you eyes checked. |
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Where did I say that?
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Gough is obviously off his rocker as ebulGery points out.
So is nine years in solitary confinement the correct medicine for someone like Gough? We lecture the rest of the world on human rights, when we treat our own sick like that. |
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Dr Crippen
20 Jun 15 20:47 He hasn't stolen anything, [i]he hasn't harmed anyone, he hasn't even insulted anyone, yet he's spent nine years of his life behind bars and most of those in solitary confinement. [/i] Where's the evidence that he is any more off his rocker than anyone else who continually re offends? There are numerous people in prisons who are there because they lead a lifestyle of petty crimes. Since when does not giving a **** about societies rules mean a person is insane? An insane person does not decide to put their clothes on to get through airport security, board a plane, sit down the mid flight, then go to the toilet and get undressed. That is the rational thought process of a person deliberately attempting to cause a breach of the peace. |
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Dr Crippen
20 Jun 15 20:47 He hasn't stolen anything, he hasn't harmed anyone, he hasn't even insulted anyone, yet he's spent nine years of his life behind bars and most of those in solitary confinement. Above didn't come out right in previous post. |
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Naked men MUST stay away from children.
Is this not OBVIOUS? |
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^^^not directed at you Shrewd
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Would you let him help you over a Stile?
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Angel Gabrial 25 Jun 15 18:29
Naked men MUST stay away from children. Is this not OBVIOUS?" Children should not be brought up to believe there is something wrong or offensive about the human body. |
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When you live in any society it's generally accepted that you observe the rules laws and customs. 9 years in prison!! this guy is obviously a glutton for punishment, attention seeking tw@t, so how much has it cost to jail this moron for 9 years.
How though did hundred of naked bike riders get away with it recently, double standards. "he hasn't even insulted anyone," that's a gigantic presumptuous leap. So on that basis, for example it would be ok for mothers taking their children to school to bump into this cretin. "Children should not be brought up to believe there is something wrong or offensive about the human body." if you have children artie do you go around the house naked in front of them and their friends, FFS get a grip. |
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We need a naked "sex change rambler"
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Where's the evidence that he is any more off his rocker than anyone else who continually re offends? There are numerous people in prisons who are there because they lead a lifestyle of petty crimes. Since when does not giving a **** about societies rules mean a person is insane?
Most people who commit petty crime do it for gain, revenge, personal advantage, etc....and think they will get away with it, even though they are usually caught Stephen does not think he is committing a crime, he does it for a principle he believes in, even if he may mistaken, and he knows he will be arrested So it is hardly the same is it? He has never harmed anyone he has only shocked people I do not believe everybody should walk around stark naked myself, we see women displaying far too much naked flesh nowadays as it is I think he is harmless myself albeit he does cause chaos wherever he goes, so I like him |
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ebulGery, you rebel you.
 He has taken ****-i-n-g a snook literally.  |
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^roostering a snook FFS.
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Children should not be brought up to believe there is something wrong or offensive about the human body.
True, but in practice it is very different. It`s just one of those things in this civilization. |
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Most people who commit petty crime do it for gain, revenge, personal advantage, etc....and think they will get away with it, even
though they are usually caught Apply this to anyone else who commits a breach of the peace, please. Stephen does not think he is committing a crime, he does it for a principle he believes in, even if he may mistaken, and he knows he will be arrested This also applies to loads of offenders. He has never harmed anyone he has only shocked people He has he has according to the law caused fear or alarm to numerous members of the public. |
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Apply this to anyone else who commits a breach of the peace, please.
no You said he did this for sexual reasons earlier, so you are classing him as some kind of sexual threat, a flasher...but I do not agree. I think he does it for a principle he believes in, nobody has need to fear him, although I accept his appearance may alarm them, well it threatens their own beliefs. If we were all brought up to go naked there would be no problem.... I like people who challenge convention, not VIOLENTLY, it makes us think, too many people believe what they are told nowadays, I believe this harms us. Still we are never going to agree on this shrewd dude..so I am just making my own points here |
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I am just making my own points here
The same as every forumite. |
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true
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You said he did this for sexual reasons earlier, so you are classing him as some kind of sexual threat, a flasher...but I do not agree.
I think he does it for a principle he believes in, nobody has need to fear him, although I accept his appearance may alarm them, well it threatens their own beliefs. If we were all brought up to go naked there would be no problem.... I like people who challenge convention, not VIOLENTLY, it makes us think, too many people believe what they are told nowadays, I believe this harms us. Still we are never going to agree on this shrewd dude..so I am just making my own points here I never said he did it for sexual reasons I said like a lot of people who commit public indecency or breach of the peaces he probably does it for the thrill as in he enjoys the reaction he gets and he enjoys the attention. Nobody has a need to fear a 45 year old man coming out of an airplane toilet (on an airplane with kids and elderly people on it) starkers then refusing to comply with requests of the air staff and captain? Gie us peace. |
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he probably does it for the thrill no he does not, you are wrong,
If people fear him, they choose too, there is no need |
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When he's 85 he'll be demanding y fronts to stop tripping over his own knackers.
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If people fear him, they choose too, there is no need  The guy whips his **** out half way through a plane journey for some reason and there is no need to fear him? As usual in any discussion you've ended up proving how much of a deviant you actually are. No doubt like usual you hold the warped view that the woman and children were asking for it by giving him the 'sexy eyes' or something. |
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Waste of time this discussion
This man is standing up for his principles, he believes human beings have the right to go naked, and he is not the only one is he?(not me by the way) You are the one who is labelling him a sexual deviant, because that is the only level you can operate at, you would not know what a principle was. You only believe everything you are told. |
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Never labeled him a sexual deviant. I labelled you one. If you want to explain how getting on a plane fully clothed to get through security then getting naked on the plane in front of kids and families furthers his 'principle' then please try and do so.
If he had have turned up at the airport naked he would have been arrested as soon as he entered the door but that would have not garnered him the attention he wished for by upsetting numerous other people. One minute he is being persecuted because he should be treated as being insane and the next minute he is a man standing up for his principles. He can't be both, so try and make your decision. |
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As if most people on here have never been in the company of complete strangers totally nude. I know its not exactly the same when your using an internet forum but hands up who has never used this forum with absolutely no clothes on.
Somebody had to say it. |
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Never labeled him a sexual deviant. I labelled you one.
The guy whips his **** out half way through a plane journey you hold the warped view that the woman and children were asking for it by giving him the 'sexy eyes' or something. These are your posts shrewde dude, you are the one who keeps bringing sex into this, these are in your own mind where have I said this? I stand by my posts he does no harm, although I can see he causes chaos, so he will keep getting arrested |