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about the 2 petitions for signatures regarding cruelty to dogs and pigs, on the " what's wrong with this photo thread"
A Animal cruelty doesn't worry or concern me in the slightest, therefore I'm not signing.
B I wasn't aware of the petitions, but I'll be signing them now.
C I've already signed them.
D To keep animals in good conditions prior to slaughter, would mean in all probability an increase in meat prices, and I'd rather them suffer in appalling conditions than find the few extra quid to pay for their relative luxury.
Thanks for taking part.
A Animal cruelty doesn't worry or concern me in the slightest, therefore I'm not signing.
B I wasn't aware of the petitions, but I'll be signing them now.
C I've already signed them.
D To keep animals in good conditions prior to slaughter, would mean in all probability an increase in meat prices, and I'd rather them suffer in appalling conditions than find the few extra quid to pay for their relative luxury.
Thanks for taking part.
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E. I don't believe petitions have any effect whatsoever and are possibly counter productive.
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That's a popular theory but is not true as far as I know.
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can't be much more counter productive to what's happening!
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Well think of the decision makers - in industry, politics..any walk of life.Are any of them likely to change because of a
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I'm not interested in any of that. Compassion In World Farming have had 100's of petitions on various animal abuse subjects, and a small percentage have had the desired effect.
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I'm not interested in any of that. Compassion In World Farming have had 100's of petitions on various animal abuse subjects, and a small percentage have had the desired effect.
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Here's one that worked
In response to the number of animal abuse cases in Thailand, an animal welfare bill was proposed to protect the safety of animals such as cats and dogs from abuse and neglect. A recent petition urged National Legislative Assembly Members to take action on this issue. This proposed law bars animal cruelty and punishes pet owners if they mistreat their pet animals by abusing or neglecting them. This law also allows officials to conduct searches of homes or businesses if they receive complaints regarding animal cruelty. The bill was passed by the National Legislative Assembly of Thailand almost unanimously, with a 188 to 1 vote. This law protects domesticated pets, animals kept for food, and animals kept for entertainment or any other |
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Sorry to nit pick but the welfare bill was proposed prior to the petition and your post does not provide any evidence that the petition made any difference.
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ok, to comment on your earlier statement, how on earth can the petitions I have highlghted be possibly counter productive, as in one instance the dogs are dead, and the other, the pigs are living a terrible existence?
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I think Dobbo that some forms of protest are probably counter productive but I think it rare for a petition to have that effect.
For instance I don't like Morriseys approach with his Meat is Murder. I think that alienates people. TMM we have to accept that meat is a very big part of the food chain and we should be trying to get the message across of dignity in life and death for these animals. However petitions are focussed on mistreatment of animals either when being reared on the farms etc or at the slaughter house. |
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With respect, that's not true, aka'. Morrisseys MIM album converte more people to vegetarianism than anything before or after.
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convertd* obviously
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flippin' heck converted*
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I didn't say that nobody had been converted because of it Kenny. The point I made was that statements like that alienate people.
I would rather accept meat as part of the food chain and concentrate on animal welfare within that. By all means we should try to convert people away from meat but by a less aggressive way. |
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Well I think he did (and still does, no meat at his gigs) a marvellous job aka'.
The best way, is not to eat meat. That would stop a lot of animals being born, but what sort of a life do a lot of them have? |
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SURVEY REPEATED
about the 2 petitions for signatures regarding cruelty to dogs and pigs, on the " what's wrong with this photo thread" A Animal cruelty doesn't worry or concern me in the slightest, therefore I'm not signing. B I wasn't aware of the petitions, but I'll be signing them now. C I've already signed them. D To keep animals in good conditions prior to slaughter, would mean in all probability an increase in meat prices, and I'd rather them suffer in appalling conditions than find the few extra quid to pay for their relative luxury. Thanks for taking part. |
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NOT ONE FUKIN ANSWER TO THE SURVEY YET!
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Well I will have to disagree with you Kenny. TMM he overstates nearly everything.
I think that he probably converts and alienates in equal measures with many of his thoughts. Trying to get from where we are in respect of animal welfare to meat being taken from the food chain is an impossibility. I think that has to be accepted and more and more people made aware of just how cruel we are to animals. |
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kenny mann • May 18, 2015 12:52 AM BST
NOT ONE FUKIN ANSWER TO THE SURVEY YET! Yer as bad as Morrisey. C to the survey |
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Was a joke btw.
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Nice one Burton
Any advance on 3 C's (spelling said he'd signed on another thread but that may have been just to shut me up ) |
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Bs for me....will sign them.
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Thank you Sir.
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B 1
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Even if Morrissey does alienate people, what are they going to do? Eat more meat?
B, maybe. |
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Thanks Mikael and MD
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Tommy Toes 18 May 15 22:01
- I didn't mean that in a nasty way, by the way - but for gawds sake, can we just have a bit of bleedin' humour on here like it used to be, rather than these bloody miserable threads? I must say I have to agree with Tommy, totally against animal cruelty, but none of the answers fit what I would put, so put me down as E) not dobbys one , but none of the above. |
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ok, fair enough. We're all different. Thanks for reading mate.
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@Mikael You miss the point. If you alienate people they won't sign petitions either.
A softer approach is all I'm advocating rather than Morrissey's aggressive way. Chyte singer as well btw.  |
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No worries, and I'm certainly not a cat lover, our one has been scratching on the back door for 10 minutes, it comes in when I decide as the missus has gone to bed, when she leaves the cat ain't coming with me.
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Ah, you've got a cat. Bless.
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Not for facking long, if I have my way it will be a pair of slippers soon.
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hahahaha!
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lol, let the feckin' thing in!
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You're not natural, normal or kind, aka.
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