Labour would outlaw Islamophobia, says Miliband in an exclusive interview

so explain why it shouldn't be a crime then

I'm unsure how you legislate against a natural response to a barbaric, misogynistic ideology based on people believing in daft fairy tales.
I suppose it's all about how he would define “Islamophobia”?
Attacking people is wrong, attacking ideas is healthy.

Apr 25, 2015 -- 12:02PM, pandora1963 wrote:

so explain why it shouldn't be a crime then

Better still, why don't you explain why it should be !!!, if you can. albeit from the safety of this country. I'm sure Syria would welcome you with open arms if you had any courage to match your twisted spoutings.

There isn't a chance of that balloon pandora actually making an argument. He's a loony lefty. Not your common or garden socialist but of the dangerous type.

carried through to its most ridiculous conclusion, I would suppose that publishing cartoons of the prophet Muhammad will be outlawed under this new legislation?

Hell in a handcart, here we come.

The problem as we have seen under the existing legislation is that it was used by the Orwellian left to silence debate and opinions which they didn't like. Nothing to do with any phobia. Of course the flip side of that is that anything they supported like multiculturalism was promoted manically even to the extent of sweeping ethnic community crimes under the carpet to try to con people that everything was just peachy.

The imbalance is stunning, when will sanity retun ???

labour will do anything to gain votes, how about doing something for british people ?

I fear never and I also fear that the same inability of the left to understand and take note of these objections or to articulate an argument which doesn't disappear like a fart in a hurricane will manifest itself as it usually does.

pandora is a prime example of this. He advocates changing the law. He wants to see it waved through. He then wants you to tell him why he is wrong. He is singularly incapable of operating from the basis of equity. You want to change the law. You make the case for why the law should be changed. As with many of the left he wants it and he wants it now. Not very much different from a toddler.

surely no one is surprised that he'd do this? it's to help all the others yet to come

Date    Country    City    Killed    Injured    Description
2015.03.31    Afghanistan    Ghazni    7    0    Three children and three women are among seven family members cut to ribbons by a Religion of Peace roadside bomb.
2015.03.31    Syria    Mabujeh    37    21    The Islamic State executes thirty-seven Shiites and Sunni 'apostate' civilians, including women and children.
2015.03.31    Iraq    Taji    6    11    A suicide bomber slaughters six Shiite pilgrims aboard a bus.
2015.03.30    Mali    Gao    1    1    Mujao Jihadists fire an aid truck, killing a Red Cross worker.
2015.03.30    Uganda    Kampala    1    0    Sharia advocates shoot a top prosecutor to death.
2015.03.29    Syria    Hama    8    0    Eight Shiites are beheaded by the Sunni co-religionists.
2015.03.28    Nigeria    Shole    7    0    Seven people are shot, stabbed or burned to death when religious extremists invade their village.
2015.03.28    Egypt    Cairo    0    8    Ajnad Misr set off a bomb at a university.
2015.03.27    Somalia    Mogadishu    18    28    Eighteen others lose their lives when Islamists set off a suicide blast at a hotel, then riddle guests with bullets.
2015.03.26    Afghanistan    Ali Shir    5    2    Five people are crushed to death when Taliban fundamentalists fire rockets into their homes.
2015.03.26    Pakistan    Loralai    6    4    Muslim terrorists machine-gun six police officers point-blank in their vehicles.
2015.03.25    Egypt    Fayum    1    0    Ansar Beit al-Maqdis is suspected of leaving a bomb that kills a 10-year-old girl.
2015.03.25    Afghanistan    Nangarhar    4    6    Three children, a farmer and a cow are all sent to Allah by Taliban bombers.
2015.03.25    Libya    Sirte    5    0    Five volunteers are killed when an ISIS militant fires a rocket into their checkpoint.
2015.03.25    Afghanistan    Kabul    8    31    Eight people are pulled into pieces by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2015.03.25    Iraq    Mosul    2    0    A couple is handcuffed and then stoned to death for adultery.
2015.03.25    Libya    Sirte    5    0    Five people near a power station are lit up by a suicide bomber.
2015.03.25    Nigeria    Gwoza    75    0    Seventy-five people have their throats slit by Boko Haram.
2015.03.25    Iraq    Mosul    3    0    Three brothers are beheaded by the Islamic State.
2015.03.24    Pakistan    Lahore    0    2    Islamists on motorbikes open fire on a church.
2015.03.24    Yemen    Taiz    6    33    Shiite militia open fire on a group of unarmed demonstrators, killing six.
2015.03.24    Iraq    al-Baghdadi    8    10    Caliphate terrorists send mortars into a neighborhood that take apart eight innocents, including three children and their mother.
2015.03.24    Afghanistan    Wardak    13    0    Thirteen bus passengers are singled out and shot to death by Muslim radicals.
2015.03.24    Libya    Benghazi    7    12    Seven others are reduced to parts by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2015.03.24    Afghanistan    Ghazni    5    10    Five children at a playground are disassembled by fundamentalist bombers.
2015.03.24    Iraq    Tel Thahab    11    0    The remains of eleven ISIS victims are discovered in a mass grave.
2015.03.24    Egypt    al-Kharouba    2    6    Islamists kill two locals soldiers with a roadside bomb.
2015.03.23    Iraq    Baghdad    4    0    A family of four, including two children, are exterminated by Mujahideen.
2015.03.23    Iraq    Mosul    1    0    A television journalist is executed for helping other journalists escape the Islamic State.
2015.03.23    Syria    Alippo    13    30    Sunni militants fire mortars into a city during rush hour, killing thirteen.
2015.03.23    Yemen    Taiz    1    4    On person is killed when Shiite radicals fire into a crowd.
2015.03.23    Iraq    Mosul    1    0    The caliphate shoots a hostage in the back of the head.
2015.03.23    Iraq    Baghdad    6    14    Sunni bombers murder six people at a vegetable market.
2015.03.23    Iraq    Fallujah    4    4    Four Iraqis are eliminated by a Shahid suicide car bomber.
2015.03.23    Iraq    Sadr City    9    22    Nine people registering at a mosque lose their lives to Religion of Peace rival bombers.
2015.03.23    Iraq    Qayyarah    5    0    Five hostages are executed in cold blood by the Islamic State.
2015.03.22    CAR    Kaga-Bandoro    11    0    An unprovoked sectarian attack on a village by Muslim terrorists leaves eleven dead.
2015.03.22    Afghanistan    Khost    2    0    Two civilians are turned into paste by a Taliban bomb in front of a shop.
2015.03.22    India    Hazipur    1    1    A Hindu man is fatally stabbed by a gang of Muslims for marrying a Muslim woman.
2015.03.22    Iraq    Askari    1    0    Roadside bombers pick off a child.
2015.03.22    Iraq    Samarrah    2    7    A Fedayeen suicide bomber murders two people.
2015.03.22    Iraq    al-Baghdadi    2    5    Two innocents are crushed to death when ISIS fires rockets into a residential area.
2015.03.21    Somalia    Afgoye    2    5    Islamists toss a grenade into a market, killing two bystanders.
2015.03.21    Syria    Hama    70    0    At least seventy others are killed when ISIS terrorists storm a small city.
2015.03.21    Thailand    Yala    1    2    Islamic separatists shoot a rubber tapper to death in his home in front of his family.
2015.03.21    Iraq    Hamam al-Alil    5    0    Five Kurds are beheaded by Religion of Peace proponents.
2015.03.21    Afghanistan    Kunduz    3    1    Fundamentalist bombers send shrapnel through a car and three occupants.
2015.03.20    Somalia    Galhareer    1    0    A young man is shot to death by al-Shabaab.
2015.03.20    Pakistan    Saddar    2    3    Sunnis place a bomb outside a Shia mosque that leaves two dead.
2015.03.20    Pakistan    Gulshan    2    4    Two Shias are gunned down in cold blood by dedicated Sunnis.
2015.03.20    India    Kathua    4    10    Radical Muslims storm a police station and murder four people.
2015.03.20    Yemen    al-Houta    29    0    Twenty-nine local servicemen are taken hostage at a government building and then summarily executed by religious extremists.
2015.03.20    Iraq    Baghdad    13    0    Thirteen Iraqis are shredded by an ISIS bomb blast.
2015.03.20    Iraq    Sabaa al-Bour    3    6    Jihadis bomb an outdoor market, eliminating a mother and child along with one other.
2015.03.20    Yemen    Sanaa    142    351    A large number of children are among one-hundred and forty innocents eliminated by Sunni suicide bombers as they worshipped at two Shiite mosques.
2015.03.20    Nigeria    Damasak    100    0    One-hundred dumped bodies with slit throats are discovered after a town is recaptured from Boko Haram.
2015.03.20    Pakistan    Nazimabad    3    4    A woman is among three Pakistanis sent to Allah by a suicide bomber.
2015.03.20    Syria    Hassakeh    49    177    Fifty Kurds celebrating their New Year are turned into paste by a suicide bomber.
2015.03.19    Iraq    Ismaelawa    3    0    A father of six is among three killed when moving a Quran booby-trapped by ISIS.
2015.03.19    Nigeria    Gamboru    11    0    Eleven villagers are shot to death during an attack by Boko Haram.
2015.03.19    Afghanistan    Kabul    1    0    At least one other person is killed by a suicide bomber.
2015.03.19    Afghanistan    Kabul    1    0    A woman is burned alive by a crowd after being accused of burning a copy of the Quran.
2015.03.19    Iraq    Mosul    3    10    Three women are executed for refusing to have sex with caliphate members. Ten more succumb to rape.
2015.03.19    Iraq    Mosul    5    0    Five residents are beheaded by the caliphate on charges of drug use and sorcery.
2015.03.19    Egypt    Giza    2    0    Two people go up in flames when suspected Ansar Beit Al Maqdis firebomb a youth center.
2015.03.19    Iraq    Mosul    3    0    Three Kurds are beheaded by the Islamic State.
2015.03.18    Pakistan    Yakutat    1    0    The Taliban gun down a secular-leaning politician.
2015.03.18    Afghanistan    Lashkar Gah    7    20    A suicide car bomber sends seven innocents to the hereafter.
2015.03.18    Pakistan    Bajaur    1    0    A polio worker is gunned down in the field by Tehreek-i-Taliban.
2015.03.18    Tunisia    Tunis    23    44    Twenty Western tourists are among twenty-three innocents shot to death at a museum by Islamic terrorists.
2015.03.18    Yemen    Sanaa    1    0    A prominent Shia journalist is assassinated by al-Qaeda.
2015.03.18    Iraq    Umm Qasr    3    5    Terrorists take out three civilians with a booby-trapped vehicle at a trailer park.
2015.03.18    Libya    Nofaliya    10    4    Ten personnel guarding an oil facility are murdered by ISIS.
2015.03.18    Iraq    Diyala    40    0    A mass grave is discovered containing the bodies of forty ISIS execution victims.
2015.03.18    Iraq    Sawfan    5    7    Five civilians are burnt to a crisp when Jihadis set off explosives near a water plant.
2015.03.18    Nigeria    Bama    24    0    Dozens of women are slaughtered by Boko Haram to keep them from marrying non-believers.
2015.03.18    Iraq    Shirqat    2    0    A man and his wife are executed by the caliphate for her not wearing a veil.
2015.03.17    Iraq    Salahuddin    4    0    Four Iraqis are forced to their knees and beheaded by the Islamic State.
2015.03.17    Pakistan    Swat    2    3    Two children are neatly dispatched by a Jihadi mortar.
2015.03.17    Iraq    Tarmiyah    4    14    Four Iraqis are blown to bits by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2015.03.17    Iraq    Baghdad    3    11    Jihadis kill three shoppers with a well-placed bomb at a market.
2015.03.17    Pakistan    Dana    3    0    Two women are gunned down along with their guard as they administer polio drops to children.
2015.03.17    Iraq    Youssifiyah    2    5    Two local cops are murdered by Islamic State bombers.
2015.03.17    Iraq    Fallujah    9    0    The Islamic State executes nine tribesmen.
2015.03.17    Cameroon    Golfo    1    2    Sharia advocates on motorbikes fire into a crowd, killing a civilian.
2015.03.17    Pakistan    Peshawar    1    0    Radicals assassinate a lawyer working on behalf of the man who helped kill bin Laden.
2015.03.17    Iraq    Tikrit    2    0    Two doctors are executed by the Islamic State.
2015.03.17    Kenya    Wajir    3    3    Three are killed when Islamists throw a grenade into a shop, followed by machine-gun fire.
2015.03.17    Libya    Ghiran    2    6    An Islamist bomb leaves two dead.
2015.03.16    Iraq    Albu Ajeel    13    0    Thirteen beheaded corpses are recovered by security forces fighting ISIS.
2015.03.16    Afghanistan    Lashkar Gah    4    5    A woman and child Fare among four people liquidated by a Fedayeen suicide car bomber.
2015.03.16    Afghanistan    Gandir Area    2    5    Children are among the casualties when the Taliban bomb a family vehicle.
2015.03.16    Afghanistan    Oruzgan    1    0    A man is murdered in front of his wife and child by religious extremists.
2015.03.15    Pakistan    Lahore    17    70    Targeted suicide bomb attacks by Jamaat-ul-Ahrar near two churches leaves fifteen worshippers dead.
2015.03.15    Libya    Misrata    1    1    At least one person is taken down by an ISIS car bomb.
2015.03.15    Iraq    Baghdad    3    6    Jihadis bomb a Shiite neighborhood, killing three residents.
2015.03.15    Kenya    Mandera    1    3    Islamists fire on a car carrying mechanics, killing one.
2015.03.15    Iraq    Baghdad    2    12    Two people near a shopping center lose their lives to Mujahideen bombers.
2015.03.15    Iraq    Mosul    9    0    Nine people are shot in the back of the head for 'betraying the religion of Allah'.
2015.03.15    Chad    Djargagoroum    1    0    A villager is murdered by Boko Haram.
2015.03.15    Iraq    Samarrah    3    0    Three Iraqis are taken down by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2015.03.15    Pakistan    Quetta    2    0    Two Shiite brothers are gunned down by radical Sunnis.
2015.03.15    Pakistan    Shaktai    13    0    Thirteen mutilated victims of the Tehreek-i-Taliban are discovered.
2015.03.15    Somalia    Gedo    6    0    Six family members, including two children and two women, are slaughtered in their own home by al-Shabaab.
2015.03.15    Iraq    Ramadi    23    43    A devastating caliphate car bomb claims two dozen lives.
2015.03.15    Iraq    Mosul    11    0    Eleven youth are executed by the Islamic State, five of whom are beheaded.
2015.03.15    Iraq    Bashir    50    0    At least fifty ISIS execution victims are discovered in a mass grave.
2015.03.15    Iraq    Tikrit    16    0    A survivor reports that sixteen members of his family, including children, were butchered by the Islamic State.
2015.03.15    Nigeria    Egba    82    0    Fulani terrorists massacre nearly one hundred Christian villagers, mostly women and children.
2015.03.14    Iraq    Baghdad    4    11    Jihadis bomb a busy market, killing four shoppers.
2015.03.14    Iraq    Ramadi    2    0    Two Iraqis are taken out by a suicide bomber.
2015.03.14    Iraq    Shamsa    19    0    Nineteen ISIS execution victims are found in a mass grave.
2015.03.14    Egypt    Cairo    1    0    A garbage collector and his donkey are killed by a planted bomb.
2015.03.14    Afghanistan    Nangarhar    3    6    Three children are pulled into pieces by fundamentalist bombers.
2015.03.13    Kenya    Mandera    3    5    Islamists ambush a car and shoot three occupants to death.
2015.03.13    Afghanistan    Deh Yak    7    3    Seven local cops are gunned down by Taliban fundamentalists.
2015.03.13    Syria    Raqqa    8    0    Eight prisoners are forced to their knees and then beheaded with meat cleavers by the Islamic State.
2015.03.13    Iraq    Saqlawiya    3    5    Three others lose their lives to suicide bombers.
2015.03.13    Syria    al-Kheir    1    0    A mentally-challenged man is executed by the Islamic State.
2015.03.13    Syria    Deir Ezzor    1    0    An older woman is burned to death for not paying taxes to ISIS.
2015.03.12    Pakistan    Peshawar    2    8    Religious extremists pour machine-gun fire into a checkpoint, killing two officers.
2015.03.12    Iraq    Tikrit    1    1    A suicide car bomber kills one other person.
2015.03.12    Iraq    Tal Tamr    22    0    At least twenty-two Kurds lose their lives to an assault by ISIS terrorists.
2015.03.12    Somalia    Baidoa    6    8    A Fedayeen assault at a government compound leaves six defenders dead.
2015.03.12    Yemen    Baida    1    7    Shiite militia open fire on a protest rally, killing one member.
2015.03.12    Afghanistan    Takhar    8    0    Eight police officers, including four unarmed, are brutally murdered by the Taliban.
2015.03.11    Iraq    Hurriya    9    30    A suicide car bomber eliminates nine people along a city street.
2015.03.11    Syria    Raqqa    1    0    The caliphate releases video of one of their children executing a Palestinian while praising Allah.
2015.03.11    Egypt    Rafah    1    0    An ISIS affiliate shoots a 26-year-old Egyptian to death.
2015.03.11    Iraq    Nineveh    3    0    Two homosexuals and a 'blasphemer' are beheaded in the two square by religious fundamentalists.
2015.03.11    Iraq    Baghdad    2    7    Jihadis set off a bomb at a parking lot which leaves two dead.
2015.03.11    Iraq    Ramadi    17    30    At least seventeen others are killed by a series of ISIS suicide car bombings.
2015.03.11    Somalia    Wanlaweyn    2    0    al-Shabaab militants attack a small town and kill two people.
2015.03.10    Egypt    al-Arish    1    6    Islamists kill a local soldier with a roadside bomb.
2015.03.10    Nigeria    Maiduguri    8    15    Eight travelers are shot to death by Boko Haram terrorists.
2015.03.10    Pakistan    Karachi    4    0    Four young cops are ambushed and murdered by Islamic terrorists.
2015.03.10    Afghanistan    Pul-e-Khumri    1    15    One woman bleeds from shrapnel injuries following a Mujahid bomb blast.
2015.03.10    Afghanistan    Tirin Kot    4    5    Two children are disassembled along with two others by Taliban bombers.
2015.03.10    Afghanistan    Lashkar Gah    7    28    Seven civilians are exterminated by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2015.03.10    Nigeria    Maiduguri    34    17    A female suicide bomber slaughters nearly three dozen people at a market.
2015.03.10    Egypt    al-Arish    1    30    A civilian is killed when a Shahid suicide bomber rams a water tanker.
2015.03.09    Yemen    Mahfad    2    0    Two others are killed during an al-Qaeda attack.
2015.03.09    Egypt    al-Kharouba    3    1    Islamists murder three local soldiers with a roadside bomb.
2015.03.09    Libya    Derna    2    0    Two hostages are executed in cold blood by Islamists.
2015.03.09    Pakistan    Karachi    1    0    A Shiite university student is shot to death in a suspected targeted attack by Sunnis.
2015.03.09    Iraq    Kirkuk    5    35    Three ISIS car bombs leave five dead.
2015.03.09    Iraq    Zoba    3    9    Three Iraqis are laid out by a Fedayeen suicide bomb blast.
2015.03.09    Pakistan    Chagharzai    2    0    Two women are honor killed over moral activity by family members with machine-guns.
2015.03.08    Egypt    Alexandria    1    9    One person is killed when Islamic militants set off a bomb outside a supermarket.
2015.03.08    Mali    Kidal    3    8    Two children are among three killed when suspected al-Qaeda send rockets into a town.
2015.03.08    Iraq    Baghdad    5    4    Five Iraqis are taken out by two Jihadi bomb blasts.
2015.03.08    Afghanistan    Jawzjani    2    15    Talibanis murder two prison guards and set another man on fire.
2015.03.08    Bangladesh    Joypurhat    1    1    One passenger is killed when Islami Chhatra Shibir bombers target a bus.
2015.03.08    Iraq    Hussainiya    3    0    A blast at a restaurant in a Shiite area leaves three dead.
2015.03.08    Iraq    Madaen    2    0    Two passersby are obliterated by a Mujahid bomb blast targeting a city bus.
2015.03.08    Iraq    Mahmoudiya    3    17    A Sunni car bomb in a Shia area leaves three dead and seventeen others with splinter injuries.
2015.03.07    Mali    Bamako    5    8    Islamists throw a grenade into a nightclub, then hack some of the survivors to death with machetes while praising Allah.
2015.03.07    Afghanistan    Kabul    6    5    Sunni extremists attack a Sufi house of worship and slaughter eleven innocents.
2015.03.07    Nigeria    Maiduguri    62    139    Sixty people lose their lives to three separate suicide attacks on civilian population centers.
2015.03.07    Iraq    Baghdad    4    9    Jihadis send mortars into a neighborhood, killing four residents.
2015.03.07    Iraq    Tuz Khurmatu    8    32    A suicide bomber murders eight people in a town center.
2015.03.07    Iraq    Baghdad    2    7    Two people at a market are disassembled by a Mujahid bomb blast.
2015.03.07    Iraq    Hawija    20    0    Twenty men are butchered by Religion of Peace activists and hung at the gate to a city.
2015.03.07    Iraq    Baghdad    3    11    Three people bleed to death following an Islamic bomb attack on a bus.
2015.03.07    Iraq    Khan Bani Saad.    2    0    Two people at a sports venue are exterminated by Jihadi bombers.
2015.03.07    Iraq    Anbar    3    3    A Fedayeen suicide bomber sends three souls to Allah.
2015.03.07    Afghanistan    Greshk    1    3    A suicide bomber kills one other person.
2015.03.06    Iraq    Tikrit    4    28    Four Iraqis are taken out by a suicide truck bomber.
2015.03.06    Libya    al-Ghani    11    0    Eleven guards at an oilfield are murdered by Islamists, some by beheading.
2015.03.06    Israel    Jerusalem    0    5    A Palestinian rams his car into a group of people, injuring five.
2015.03.06    Syria    Raqqa    2    0    Two men are shot in the back of the head by caliphate members.
2015.03.06    Iraq    Mosul    1    0    A secular judge is executed by the Islamic State.
2015.03.06    Egypt    Mahalla    3    16    Terrorists detonate a bomb outside a bank, killing three bystanders.
2015.03.06    Somalia    Beledweyne    3    0    A child is among three people murdered by al-Shabaab gunmen.
2015.03.05    Syria    al-Qanafz    5    1    Two children are among five Shiite family members slaughtered by ISIS.
2015.03.05    Afghanistan    Uruzgan    2    0    Two local cops are gunned down by a Taliban insider.
2015.03.05    Nigeria    Gwoza    6    0    A half-dozen elderly men are rounded up and executed by Boko Haram.
2015.03.05    Iraq    Baghdad    3    12    A bomb rips through an outdoor market, taking three souls.
2015.03.05    Afghanistan    Adam Khan    7    0    Seven police officers are poisoned and then shot by fundamentalists.
2015.03.05    China    Guangzhou    0    13    Thirteen people at a train station are slashed by a group of Muslim terrorists.
2015.03.04    Philippines    Jolo    3    6    Abu Sayyaf terrorists ambush and kill three local soldiers.
2015.03.04    Syria    Aleppo    15    0    An al-Nusra bomb leaves fifteen dead.
2015.03.04    Iraq    al-Dour    5    0    Five Iraqis are cut down by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2015.03.04    Pakistan    Hub    1    0    A Shia doctor is abducted and brutally tortured to death by Sunnis.
2015.03.04    Pakistan    Karachi    2    0    A prominent Sunni and his driver are murdered by sectarian gunmen.
2015.03.04    Pakistan    Korangi    1    0    A Shia lawyer is shot twice in the head by Sunni gunmen.
2015.03.03    Yemen    al-Baida    5    15    Five others are killed by a double suicide bombing.
2015.03.03    Yemen    al-Qatan    3    2    Three security personnel are exterminated by al-Qaeda bombers.
2015.03.03    Syria    Raqqa    1    0    A gay man is thrown from a rooftop by the Islamic State.
2015.03.03    Iraq    Baqubah    3    0    Three civilians are brought down by Jihadi bombers.
2015.03.03    Afghanistan    Sangin    7    7    A Fedayeen suicide bomber makes mincemeat out of seven Afghans.
2015.03.03    Iraq    al-Baghdadi    3    10    A child and two women are killed when caliphate terrorists send mortars into a neighborhood.
2015.03.03    Niger    Lake Chad    17    0    Seventeen people are reported drowned or burned to death during a Boko Haram attack on their village.
2015.03.02    Pakistan    Marriabad    3    3    Evidence strongly suggests a targeted rocket attack was responsible for a blast that killed a religious minority and her two children in their home.
2015.03.02    Afghanistan    Jalalabad    2    2    Two children are pulled into pieces by Holy Warrior bombers.
2015.03.02    Iraq    Sinjar    77    0    More mass graves are discovered containing seventy-seven victims of ISIS killings - mostly minority women and children.
2015.03.02    Egypt    Cairo    2    9    Two civilians standing outside a courtroom are obliterated by an Islamist bomb.
2015.03.02    Iraq    Tikrit    4    0    Four tribesmen are shot in the back of the head by the Islamic State.
2015.03.02    Nigeria    Baga    2    0    Two men are beheaded on video by radical Islamists.
2015.03.02    Iraq    al-Baghdadi    3    3    ISIS militants send shells into a home, killing a woman and two children.
2015.03.02    Iraq    al-Dour    4    30    Four Iraqis are sectionalized by a Fedayeen suicide bomb blast.
2015.03.02    Nigeria    Njaba    68    24    Over sixty are reported dead after Islamists circulate a village and fire randomly into houses. Children were targeted.
2015.03.02    Iraq    al-Jalam    7    15    A truck bomb explodes, killing seven people nearby.
2015.03.02    Afghanistan    Nangarhar    6    2    Two children and two women are among a family cut down by Taliban roadside bombers.
2015.03.02    Niger    Bosso    2    0    Boko Haram members burn down a village and murder two fishermen.
2015.03.02    Iraq    Baghdad    3    15    Two Mujahid bombs, one at a soccer field and the other at a shop, leave three dead.
2015.03.01    Lebanon    Kuweikhat    1    0    Sunnis assassinate a prominent Shia.
2015.03.01    Iraq    al-Baghdadi    3    3    Three children are exterminated by an ISIS mortar.
2015.03.01    Iraq    al-Baghdadi    32    0    Nearly three dozen Iraqis are kidnapped and executed by the Islamic State.
2015.03.01    Iraq    Anbar    2    2    Two people are sent to Allah by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2015.03.01    Libya    Benghazi    2    30    Islamists are suspected of lobbing rockets into a government controlled area, killing two residents.
2015.03.01    Egypt    Aswan    2    5    Islamists kill two people in a tourist town with a planted bomb.
2015.02.28    Iraq    Baghdad    7    8    Two Jihad bomb blasts produce seven dead Iraqis.
2015.02.28    Syria    Aleppo    29    0    al-Nusra turns on a moderate rebel group, killing nearly thirty in a surprise attack.
2015.02.28    Iraq    Balad Ruz    11    50    Jihadi bombers take out a dozen people at a market.
2015.02.28    Iraq    Samarrah    16    31    Two suicide car bombings claim sixteen souls.
2015.02.28    Nigeria    Ngamdu    2    0    Two female suicide bombers murder two other people at a bus stop.
2015.02.28    Syria    Aleppo    2    17    A child is among two civilians who bleed out following an Islamist mortar attack.
2015.02.28    Iraq    al-Baghdadi    5    6    Five civilians bleed out after ISIS send mortars into a residential area.
2015.02.28    Iraq    Singar    5    0    Five young teens are executed by the Islamic State.
2015.02.27    Pakistan    Hayatabad    1    0    A Shia man dies from injuries suffered at the hands of Sunni radicals.
2015.02.27    Syria    Dmeir    11    0    Eleven people near a mosque are killed by Sunni bombers.
2015.02.27    Pakistan    Karachi    1    1    A Sunni cleric is gunned down by Religion of Peace rivals.
2015.02.27    Iraq    Mosul    4    0    Four Iraqis are paraded before the camera and then shot in the head by observant Muslims.
2015.02.27    Afghanistan    Nangarhar    2    13    Two children are disassembled by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2015.02.27    Iraq    Husseiniyah    6    0    A man and his five sons are executed in their home by a Shiite militia.
2015.02.27    Yemen    Houta    4    0    A local security patrol is sprayed with gunfire on a city street, cutting down all four members.
2015.02.27    Pakistan    Peshawar    1    0    Radical Sunnis gun down a prominent Shia businessman.
2015.02.27    Pakistan    Karachi    2    0    Two Shiites are picked off outside a hospital by Sunni gunmen.
2015.02.27    Iraq    Baghdad    6    16    A rocket attack and a car bombing leave six dead.
2015.02.27    Nigeria    Mainok    14    24    Islamist gunmen walk into a market and shoot fourteen traders to death.
2015.02.27    Iraq    al-Baghdadi    1    0    ISIS reportedly executes a 5-year-old girl as punishment for her family fleeing.
2015.02.26    Somalia    Mogadishu    1    0    One person is killed during an al-Shabaab rocket attack.
2015.02.26    Afghanistan    Kabul    2    1    A suicide car bomber takes out two other people.
2015.02.26    Egypt    Cairo    1    1    A person bleeds to death outside a pizzeria following a Religion of Peace bomb blast.
2015.02.26    Syria    al-Masamier    15    0    Fifteen Christians taken hostage earlier in the week are executed, including a woman who is beheaded.
2015.02.26    Nigeria    Biu    19    17    Nineteen people, including several women, are reduced to pulp by a suicide bomber at a market.
2015.02.26    Niger    Zaourararm    2    0    Two villagers on a horse-driven car are taken out by Boko Haram bombers.
2015.02.26    Nigeria    Jos    17    14    A dozen students are among seventeen innocents shredded by Islamist bombers at a bus station.
2015.02.26    Iraq    Mahmoudiya    4    8    Jihadis set off a bomb outside a courthouse, killing four bystanders.
2015.02.26    Iraq    al-Baghdadi    26    0    Twenty-six more people are reported burned to death by order of a fatwa.
2015.02.26    Bangladesh    Dhaka    1    1    An atheist blogger is hacked to death by Islamists, who also injure his wife.
2015.02.25    Yemen    Sanaa    10    0    Shiite radicals send shells into an army camp, killing ten people.
2015.02.25    Nigeria    Borno    100    0    Over one hundred villagers are massacred by Boko Haram in attacks on three villages.
2015.02.24    Afghanistan    Logar    20    8    Four Taliban suicide bombers slaughter twenty local police officers.
2015.02.24    Iraq    Mishada    4    12    A Jihadi car bomb claims four lives.
2015.02.24    Nigeria    Potiskum    17    53    Seventeen bus passengers are torn to shreds by a teenaged suicide bomber.
2015.02.24    Nigeria    Kano    12    30    Two teen boys self-detonate at a bus park, incinerating a dozen innocents.
2015.02.24    Libya    Tripoli    2    0    A female activist and her aunt are shot to death by suspected Islamists.
2015.02.24    Iraq    Jisr Diyala    25    50    A double bombing at a Shia neighborhood leaves over two dozen dead.
2015.02.24    Iraq    Baghdad    3    8    A bombing at a restaurant leaves three dead.
2015.02.24    Iraq    Latifiyah    2    7    Mujahid bombers kill two civilians at an outdoor market.
2015.02.24    Pakistan    Karachi    1    0    A Sunni leader is gunned down by sectarian rivals.
2015.02.24    Iraq    Mosul    3    0    Three lawyers are executed by the Islamic State.
2015.02.24    Syria    Ghibsh    2    0    Two civilians are executed by the Islamic State for 'dealing with Kurds'.
2015.02.24    Nigeria    Gonori    4    0    Four residents are murdered by activists fighting for Sharia.
2015.02.24    Iraq    Diyala    7    12    Seven Iraqis are pulled into pieces during two ISIS car bomb attacks.
2015.02.23    Syria    al-Hasakah    6    60    Six people are murdered during an ISIS attack on a Christian village, including one woman reportedly raped and killed.
2015.02.23    Iraq    Muqdadiyah    1    0    A civilian is executed by the caliphate.
2015.02.23    Pakistan    Chaman    1    9    The Taliban is blamed for killing an 8-year-old boy with a motorcycle bomb outside a Hindu temple.
2015.02.23    Syria    Tel Goran    4    90    ISIS 'fighters' attack a series of Christian villages and kidnap ninety women and children.
2015.02.23    Syria    Damascus    6    13    Twin suicide attacks on a Shia shrine claim the lives of six worshippers and guards.
2015.02.22    Nigeria    Potiskum    5    48    A child suicide bomber murders seven patrons at an outdoor market.
2015.02.22    Israel    Jerusalem    0    1    An ultra-Orthodox Jew is stabbed by a Palestinian.
2015.02.22    Iraq    Tikrit    8    15    A Fedayeen suicide truck bomber sends eight souls to Allah.
2015.02.22    Iraq    Youssfiyah    2    10    Jihadis bomb an outdoor market, killing two shoppers.
2015.02.22    Iraq    Baghdad    2    6    A Mujahid car bomb blast in a commercial district leaves two dead.
2015.02.22    Iraq    Baghdad    7    14    Muslim radicals set off a car bomb outside a row of car repair shops, killing seven innocents.
2015.02.21    Iraq    al-Baghdadi    43    0    Forty-three moderate Sunnis are burned alive by the caliphate.
2015.02.21    Syria    Aleppo    6    10    A Sunni group sends mortars into a neighborhood, killing six residents.
2015.02.21    Iraq    Shirqat    4    0    Three woman are among four executed by the Islamic State for 'moral crime'.
2015.02.21    Syria    Qardaha    4    0    At least four others are killed by a suicide bomber at a hospital.
2015.02.21    Iraq    Baiji    1    0    An elderly woman is shot to death by religious extremists.
2015.02.21    Nigeria    Gaya    23    0    Two dozen people are slaughtered by Boko Haram.
2015.02.20    Nigeria    Ribadu    13    0    Boko Haram murder thirteen villagers and set their homes on fire.
2015.02.20    Somalia    Mogadishu    25    40    A Shahid suicide bomber exterminates twenty-five 'apostates' at a luxury hotel.
2015.02.20    Niger    Karamga    8    0    A surprise Boko Haram attack on an island community leaves eight others dead.
2015.02.20    Thailand    Narathiwat    0    13    Muslim 'insurgents' set off a car bomb outside a karaoke bar.
2015.02.20    Nigeria    Gatamarwa    10    0    Women are among ten people killed when Islamists attack a village.
2015.02.20    Iraq    al-Ghazlani    5    0    Five tribal elders are kidnapped, tortured and murdered by the caliphate.
2015.02.20    Libya    al-Qubah    47    80    Fifty people are blown to bits by three Islamic State suicide car bombs.
2015.02.19    Iraq    Baghdad    3    11    Three people at a cafe are taken out in mid-bite by Jihadi bombers.
2015.02.19    Syria    Raqaa    3    0    Three prisoners are beaten to death by an angry mob of Islamists.
2015.02.19    Iraq    Baghdad    2    0    A farmer and his wife die from splinter injuries after caliphate militants lob mortars into their home.
2015.02.19    Afghanistan    Spin Boldak    6    10    Three civilians are among a half dozen people killed during by a Taliban suicide attack.
2015.02.19    Niger    Tourba Guida    3    3    Three people are murdered by a Boko Haram attack on a village.
2015.02.19    Iraq    Mosul    1    0    A journalist is executed by the Islamic State.
2015.02.19    Pakistan    Karachi    1    0    A young political worker is murdered by religious extremists.
2015.02.19    Iraq    al-Baghdadi    100    0    One-hundred tribesmen are publicly executed by ISIS.
2015.02.19    Nigeria    Chibok    30    0    At least thirty are left dead when Boko Haram gunmen open up randomly on villagers.
2015.02.19    India    Karnataka    1    1    A Hindu man is hacked to death by members of an Islamist group.
2015.02.19    Iraq    Ghazaliyah    2    8    Two people in a commercial district are reduced to pulp by a Mujahid bomb blast.
2015.02.18    Iraq    Samarrah    6    16    Six Iraqis are sent to Allah by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2015.02.18    Egypt    Cairo    1    0    A bomb planted by religious extremists kills a street cleaner.
2015.02.18    Pakistan    Islamabad    4    6    A Jundullah suicide bomber detonates outside a Shiite mosque, killing four innocents.
2015.02.18    Pakistan    Nazimabad    2    0    A prominent Shiite and his driver are murdered by sectarian rivals.
2015.02.18    Egypt    Suez    1    1    One person is killed by Islamic radicals.
2015.02.18    Iraq    Mosul    1    0    An elderly man is tied up and stoned to death after being accused of adultery.
2015.02.17    Iraq    Baghdadi    27    0    Islamists capture and execute twenty-seven Iraqi policemen.
2015.02.17    Iraq    Baghdadi    45    0    Forty-five people are burned to death by the Islamic State.
2015.02.17    Nigeria    Potiskum    4    11    A Shahid suicide bomber blows himself up in a restaurant, killing the manager, a waiter and two customers.
2015.02.17    Chad    Dikwa    2    0    Two guards are killed during a cross-border raid by Boko Haram.
2015.02.17    Pakistan    Zhob    4    0    Four members of a polio vaccination team are kidnapped and murdered by the Taliban.
2015.02.17    Afghanistan    Logar    22    8    Two dozen local recruits are massacred by a suicide bomber at a dining hall.
2015.02.17    Pakistan    Lahore    8    23    At least eight people are killed when a suicide bomber detonates outside a hotel.
2015.02.17    Afghanistan    Kabul    4    0    A bomb blast takes out all four members of a family.
2015.02.17    Nigeria    Yamarkumi    36    20    Children are heavily represented in the three dozen innocents blown to bits by suicide bombers.
2015.02.17    Iraq    Fallujah    11    0    Eleven residents of the city are reportedly burned alive by ISIS.
2015.02.17    Nigeria    Tamsu-Shehuri    12    0    A dozen people are gunned down by Sharia advocates.
2015.02.17    Iraq    Qaim    8    0    Eight citizens are executed by the Islamic State.
2015.02.17    Iraq    Mashad    15    0    Fifteen civilians are executed by the Islamic State, three of whom are burned alive.
2015.02.17    Iraq    Camp Speicher    4    18    A Shahid suicide bomber takes out four Iraqis.
2015.02.17    Tunisia    Kasserine    4    0    al-Qaeda militants open fire on a police checkpoint, killing four officers.
2015.02.17    Iraq    Mosul    4    0    Four people are put to death for 'witchcraft'.
2015.02.17    Iraq    Mosul    3    0    Three physicians are executed by the caliphate.
2015.02.17    Nigeria    Hong    27    0    Over two dozen people in two villages are massacred by Boko Haram.
2015.02.16    Iraq    Saladin    12    0    A dozen Kurds are ambushed and killed by the Islamic State.
2015.02.16    Iraq    Mansouriya    1    3    An electrical worker is dismantled by a roadside bomb.
2015.02.16    Cameroon    Waza    4    10    Islamists slay four local soldiers.
2015.02.16    Syria    Aleppo    9    20    Four children are among nine killed when Sunnis fire into a Shia-held neighborhood.
2015.02.16    Afghanistan    Kandahar    13    0    Thirteen local cops lose their lives to an ambush by armed Taliban fundamentalists.
2015.02.16    Somalia    Mogadishu    4    0    Four airport workers are machine-gunned at point-blank range by al-Shabaab.
2015.02.15    Egypt    Sheikh Zuweyid    0    2    Islamic militants stage two suicide car bombings on a police station.
2015.02.15    Iraq    Udhaim    15    0    Fifteen defenders are killed during an ISIS attack on a dam.
2015.02.15    Nigeria    Damaturu    16    30    A teenaged girl blows herself up at a crowded bus station, taking at least sixteen bystanders with her.
2015.02.15    Pakistan    Rawalpindi    1    1    A Sunni activist is assassinated by sectarian rivals.
2015.02.15    Egypt    Benha    1    3    A policeman is picked off in a Muslim drive-by.
2015.02.15    Denmark    Copenhagen    1    2    A 37-year-old Jewish man guarding a synagogue is gunned down by a Muslim radical.
2015.02.15    Iraq    Hawija    15    0    Fifteen Kurds are captured and executed by ISIS.
2015.02.15    Iraq    al-Baghdadi    3    0    Three policemen are kidnapped and executed by the Islamic State.
2015.02.14    Iraq    Sadr City    9    0    A Shiite militia ambushes and brutally executes a Sunni leader, his son and seven others.
2015.02.14    Syria    al-Bab    3    0    The caliphate publicly executes two men and crucifies another to a cheering crowd.
2015.02.14    Pakistan    Shalman    1    1    The driver for a polio vaccination team is murdered by fundamentalist gunmen.
2015.02.14    Pakistan    Orangi    1    0    A 32-year-old Shiite is gunned down by Sunni radicals outside his photo shop.
2015.02.14    Tanzania    Tanga    1    5    A police officer is murdered by members of an al-Shabaab offshoot.
2015.02.14    Denmark    Copenhagen    1    3    A gunman praises Allah and fires into a cafe hosting a free speech event organized by a cartoonist critical of Islam, killing one participant.
2015.02.14    Mali    Mopti    2    3    Two local soldiers are left dead after a surprise attack by a suspected al-Qaeda linked group.
2015.02.14    Pakistan    Shar Sadardin    1    0    A young woman is shot to death by her conservative brother on suspicion of sexual activity.
2015.02.14    Iraq    Nineveh    2    0    Two physicians are executed by Islamic radicals.
2015.02.14    Libya    Sirte    21    0    Twenty-one Christians are abducted by Islamists, forced to their knees and then beheaded.
2015.02.14    USA    Detroit, MI    0    2    Two men are stabbed by a Muslim who first verified that they were unbelievers.
2015.02.13    Iraq    Rutba    1    0    A boy is executed for criticizing the Islamic State on Facebook.
2015.02.13    Egypt    al-Minya    1    0    A Coptic youth is reportedly burned alive by Muslim miscreants.
2015.02.13    Iraq    Qadisiya    7    0    An ISIS crew executes seven policemen.
2015.02.13    Iraq    Qaim    9    0    Nine civilians are executed by the Islamic State.
2015.02.13    Egypt    Cairo    1    8    A policeman is killed in a roadside bombing by Islamic extremists.
2015.02.13    Chad    Ngouboua    10    0    Islamists row across a lake and murder ten villagers in a surprise attack.
2015.02.13    Pakistan    Peshawar    22    65    At least twenty worshippers are massacred by Jundallah gunmen with suicide vests at a Shiite mosque.
2015.02.13    Iraq    Samarrah    6    0    Two children and a woman are among a family of six disassembled by a Mujahid bomb.
2015.02.12    Yemen    Baihan    8    0    Eight defenders are killed during an al-Qaeda attack which began with a suicide bombing.
2015.02.12    Nigeria    Biu    11    20    A female suicide bomber slaughters eleven people at a packed market.
2015.02.12    Pakistan    Maldilan    2    2    A bomb shaped like a toy kills two children, ages 6 and 13.
2015.02.12    Nigeria    Akida    12    0    Twelve villagers are massacred by Boko Haram.
2015.02.12    Nigeria    Mbuta    9    0    Nine villagers are massacred by Boko Haram.
2015.02.12    Yemen    Lahij    1    0    A pilot is shot to death by al-Qaeda.
2015.02.12    Iraq    Salamiya    30    0    Thirty people are rounded up and executed for refusing to fight for the Islamic State.
2015.02.11    Syria    Raqqa    1    0    An ISIS prisoner is executed with a shotgun blast to the head.
2015.02.11    Iraq    Mosul    1    0    A female politician is publicly executed by the Islamic State.
2015.02.11    Libya    Benghazi    40    0    Forty severed heads are discovered at a training camp for Islamists.
2015.02.11    Iraq    Baghdad    10    25    Ten civilians lose their lives when terrorists send mortar shells into two Shiite neighborhoods.
2015.02.11    Iraq    Tikrit    12    37    Three ISIS suicide bombers kill a dozen Iraqis.
2015.02.11    Iraq    Baghdad    9    25    Two Jihadi bombings leave nine dead.
2015.02.10    Afghanistan    Jalalabad    2    3    A massive suicide attack leaves two dead, including a female politician.
2015.02.10    Iraq    Tarmia    3    10    Ten Shiites are laid out by a Sunni bomb.
2015.02.10    Egypt    Arish    10    0    Ten people are beheaded on video by Ansar Bait al-Maqdis.
2015.02.10    Afghanistan    Kunduz    1    3    Five suicide bombers manage to kill only one other person.
2015.02.10    Somalia    Guri-El    12    30    A dozen people lose their lives when Ahlu Sunna Wal Jama'a attack a government building.
2015.02.10    Iraq    Madain    2    7    Two civilians are taken out by an IED.
2015.02.10    Iraq    Baghdad    4    18    Two Mujahid bomb blasts produce a four dead Iraqis.
2015.02.10    Iraq    Samarrah    6    29    A Fedayeen suicide bomber takes out six other people.
2015.02.10    Cameroon    Koza    7    8    Boko Haram hijacks a bus with passengers, kills seven and kidnaps eight young girls.
2015.02.10    Nigeria    Logo    22    20    Fulani terrorists massacre over twenty villagers.
2015.02.09    Iraq    Kadhimiyah    18    42    A Sunni suicide bomber takes out eighteen innocents near a Shia shrine.
2015.02.09    Somalia    Mogadishu    3    0    A member of parliament is assassinated by a group fighting for Islamic law. Two bodyguards are also killed.
2015.02.09    Iraq    Husseiniyah    4    8    A Jihadi bomb blast rips through a commercial area, claiming four souls.
2015.02.09    Iraq    Mosul    0    15    Fifteen women are reportedly arrested and disfigured with acid by the caliphate for not wearing the niqab.
2015.02.09    Iraq    Mosul    5    0    Five Iraqis are executed by the Islamic State.
2015.02.09    Pakistan    Hayatabad    1    0    Sipah-e-Sahaba gunmen murder a Shiite doctor.
2015.02.09    Pakistan    Karachi    1    0    A Shia museum official is taken down in a Sunni drive-by.
2015.02.09    Iraq    Saniya    13    6    Over a dozen people at a popular gathering place are torn to pieces by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2015.02.08    Afghanistan    Nangarhar    2    1    Militants enter a rival mosque and gun down two people.
2015.02.08    Pakistan    Nari Baba    3    5    Lashkar-e-Islam kill ten members of a peace committee with an IED in a house.
2015.02.08    Somalia    Puntland    2    5    Islamic activists roll up to a police checkpoint and throw in a grenade, killing two officers.
2015.02.08    Syria    Aldbsa    1    0    An elderly man is publicly beheaded for 'witchcraft'.
2015.02.08    Niger    Diffa    5    15    A Shahid suicide bomber detonates at a pepper market, killing five patrons.
2015.02.07    Iraq    Baghdad    11    26    Two bombs at a market produce eleven bodies.
2015.02.07    Pakistan    Parachinar    1    0    A Shiite is shot to death by Sunni radicals.
2015.02.07    Iraq    Jalawla    1    0    A Kurd is tortured and killed on video by Shiite militia.
2015.02.07    Iraq    Baghdad    22    45    A brutal suicide bombing at a packed restaurant snuffs out the lives of twenty-two innocents.
2015.02.07    Iraq    Baghdad    5    13    Five Iraqis are disassembled by a Fedayeen suicide bomber at a commercial district.
2015.02.06    Iraq    Tikrit    7    4    A suicide car bomber murders seven Iraqis.
2015.02.06    Iraq    Baghdad    3    5    A bomb blast at a market leaves three dead.
2015.02.06    Libya    Benghazi    2    20    A suicide bomber kills a man and child.
2015.02.06    Iraq    Zumar    16    0    Women and children are among sixteen Yazidi victims of an ISIS execution.
2015.02.06    Niger    Bossa    4    13    At least four others are killed during a massive cross-border Boko Haram assault.
2015.02.06    Iraq    Bardiyan    23    0    Twenty-three Yazidi victims of Islamic State execution are found in another mass grave.
2015.02.06    Afghanistan    Ghanikhil    2    0    Two policemen are shot to death by Sunni hardliners.

sorry for the delayed  reply Eeternaloptimist, my comp is playing up.I concur, the future certainly isn't what it used to be. Flush stop posting facts, you will upset it's namesake and the pollyanna pandoras of this world including expats who mistakenly think they have a valid say on the problems of this country. from their cosy chosen exile.

I'm switching to my tablet for betting purposes, good luck this afternoon gents.

...and should Muslims be prosecuted for being Homophobic, or if they were would that be Islamophobic?

"labour will do anything to gain votes, how about doing something for british people ?"

Magnificent and cheered on without a missed step!

:))

How is this going to gain any votes?
The people who applaud this move will be staunch Labour supporters anyway, and I cant see this attracting the floating voter.

He would have been better off saying he would adapt a zero tolerance on paedophiles, regardless of race, colour, creed, or political
persuasion. And that illness was no defence.

So muslims would not be in favour of this move ?

The issue is the use of the word phobia to make out that anyone who is against something is the one with the problem.

Islamophobia shout be outlawed. It is outrageous that one section of society should be hated just because as Muslims:

Muslims

They're not happy in Gaza ..
They're not happy in Egypt ..
They're not happy in Libya ..
They're not happy in Morocco ..
They're not happy in Iran ..
They're not happy in Iraq ..
They're not happy in Yemen ...
They're not happy in Afghanistan ...
They're not happy in Pakistan ..
They're not happy in Syria ..
They're not happy in Lebanon ...

SO.. WHERE ARE THEY HAPPY?

They're happy in Australia ..
They're happy in Canada ..
They're happy in England ..
They're happy in France ..
They're happy in Italy ..
They're happy in Germany ..
They're happy in Sweden ..
They're happy in the USA ..
They're happy in Norway ..
They're happy in Holland ..
They're happy in Denmark ..

Basically, they're happy in every country that is not Muslim and unhappy in every country that is!

AND WHO DO THEY BLAME?

Not Islam.
Not their leadership.
Not themselves

THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN !

AND THEN- They want to change those countries to be like, THE COUNTRY THEY CAME FROM WHERE THEY WERE UNHAPPY!
Excuse me, but I can't help wondering...
How frigging dumb can you get?
Everyone seems to be wondering why Muslim Terrorists are so quick to commit suicide.

Lets have a look at the evidence:
- No Christmas
- No television
- No nude women
- No football
- No pork chops
- No hot dogs
- No burgers
- No beer
- No bacon
- Rags for clothes
- Towels for hats
- Constant wailing from some bloke in a tower
- More than one wife
- More than one mother-in-law
- You can't shave
- Your wife can't shave
- You can't wash off the smell of donkeys
- You cook over burning camel ****
- Your wife is picked by someone else for you
- and your wife smells worse than your donkey
- Then they tell them that "when they die, it all gets better"???

That's an uncharacteristically offensive post from you, Slicer. Or are you being ironic?

only gets better when they are dead

Offensive? Please point out exactly which part.

I see orioles is gliding through dropping his special brand of idiocy without actually saying whether he agrees with Milliband. Some may see that as moral cowardice. I couldn't possibly comment.

I think that is unkind Mr Optimist.  Mr Orioles is a worthy opponent. I would just ask one thing of him: when he and his cohorts allow the African boat people to settle in the UK, that THEY and they alone allow them to live in THEIR homes and that THEY pay their medical bills, food etc to save the British tax payer from footing the bill for people who should not be let anywhere near the UK!

for the umpteenth time,  islamophobia is a made-up word and made-up concept. 100% fabricated by those who are too scared to speak up against Islam. The islamophobia card is designed to shut down debate on a religion which believes it (and it alone of all religions) is beyond any criticism.

Indeed platini. You'd have thought this nonsense would have been decided forty years ago with people like Dave Allen and Monty Python. Phobia's against medieval fairy tales. The very idea is as preposterous now as Christians were told it was then.

Still fuming, EO? I like it :)

Do I agree that religious intolerance should be outlawed? I'm going to shock you - yes.

I haven't read the interview in question, but I suspect this is the standard partial quote/lift spun out to outrage precisely the type people we see protesting on this thread.

Further, my guess would be that the interviewer has pointed out the increasing attacks on Muslims in the UK and quite reasonably asked Miliband what he's going to do about it. Miliband has replied that he would support making attacks with a religious motive aggravated offences.

I think any politician (save perhaps for your champion of tolerance and good sense) would have replied in broadly the same way.

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I'm unsure how you legislate against a natural response to a barbaric, misogynistic ideology based on people believing in daft fairy tales.
I suppose it's all about how he would define “Islamophobia”?
Attacking people is wrong, attacking ideas is healthy.

I make no apology for re-posting this from HH as it hits the nail on the head.
The leftist luvvies conflate criticism of ideas with racism thus curtailing freedom of speech.

A phobia is a medical condition. Branding someone an Islamophobe is medicalizing someone for giving a rational critique of an unscientific way of viewing reality.
Milliband should be ashamed of himself.

What about when people are intolerant to a religion because of legitimate concerns about savage uncivilized behavior that is alien to our way of life?

Would you still outlaw it?

Don't expect any help from the police. They turned a blind eye to Muslim corruption in Tower Hamlets but you can bet your bottom dollar that if you've done your shopping, got some pork sausages in your carrier bag and are walking anywhere near a mosque, you will be arrested and given a long sentence in one of Londonistan's high security prisons!

Isn't 'savage, uncivilised behaviour' likely to be unlawful anyway?

There are already existing laws which make it illegal to attack or assault anyone. Causing bodily harm is against the law and understandably so.

If you attacked someone because you opposed their religion, football team or simply because you didn't like the cut of their jib, the crime is still the same. As such the punishment should be the same regardless of motive.

Having a separate law which makes it worse because of an anti-religious motive is ludicrous. Besides, many world leaders marched united arm in arm ahead of tens of thousands in the wake of the Charlie Hebdo attacks, in very public defence of the right of free speech. Islam, or any religion, should not be beyond criticism from whosoever wishes to express sentiment against it.

"Isn't 'savage, uncivilised behaviour' likely to be unlawful anyway?"

You miss the point. Will criticizing such behaviour be an offence?  Will for example making comments about the rape of underage girls by members predominately of another religion be covered. We have already seen allegations of racism against people who have highlighted this in attempts to silence them.

In future will it be a criminal offence to make such comments?

I'm sorry,  Foinavon, but that's a semantic contortion too far. Phobia is not a medical condition it is a suffix. The etymology of islamaphobia is perfectly well established and claiming it medicalises rational (sic) criticism is, well, gobbledegook.

A phobia is an abnormal intense and irrational fear of a given situation, organism, or object and is usually treated by a psychiatrist. Criticising a religious ideology is not a phobia and should not be branded as such.

Look i suppose if you ignore the mass child molestation,sharia courts,the lee rigby misunderstanding ,the electoral fraud ,honour killings and a few other minor cultural differences there is really nothing to get worried about.

Islam is a religion of piece! It takes a piece of the action in Tower Hamlets, a piece of young girls in Rotherham and a piece of poor Lee Rigby. Yep-Islam is certainly a religion of piece!

Of course not, but denouncing the rape of children is a very different thing from declaring, for example, that all Pakistani men are paedophiles, or Islam promotes child abuse.

I have seen plenty of discussion about the responsibility of communities to combat this aberrant behaviour and never seen it shouted down. But contrast the comments you frequently see on here, which while they use that same behaviour as a jumping off point, extend the condemnation to support a much broader, more sinister agenda.

It can be, Foinavon, but It also denotes hatred.

Islamaphobia is merely one example of its use in this regard.

Britain should consider becoming the first democracy to ban religion, indeed outlaw it and close down all churches and mosques, although I would make an exception during the Christmas period as Christmas carols are very beautiful...certainly any party that would introduce this would get my vote.

In view of all the killing Muslims are doing around the world,isn't Islamaphobia ( fear of Islam or Muslims) a natural, even healthy response.

I am always against hatred orioles and am strongly in favour of laws against racism. The right to criticise ideas is enshrined in our culture and has been hard won over centuries. I don't want to see it eroded.

How can you ban religion our laws,culture and inherent belief in doing the right thing are based on christian tenets.
And even being a devout athiest like myself i still see it as the fibre that holds society together.
Multiculturalism/multifaith works nowhere in the world eventually when the levels get to great friction occurs and the shiite hits the fan.

And what happens then sunni jim?

I think that's an interesting point, Flush, but you might find you have your atheist cards cancelled if you keep taking that line!

Too many puns, by the looks of things :)

Devout atheist is an oxymoron. card cancelled!

"intolerant to a religion"  that's rich, when we're talking about the most intolerant religion on the planet, by a mile.

Boxingthefox's extensive list is of course very racist and hopefully Milliband will wack him over the head with his feather duster..

I simply cannot believe how far removed Labour are from their core, historic vote.

The fact they are due to hold onto countless northern seats among voters who are proud Englishmen/women is truly staggering. Do these people not realise what Labour have become????

I say this with no pleasure or glee at all.

Labour used to be proud of Britain..FYI Ed, we don't want Islam here.
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WINSTON CHURCHILL’S COMMENTS ON ISLAM
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[ Forenote:  Sir Winston Churchill has been recognized as one of the greatest men of the late nineteenth and of the twentieth century.  He was an extraordinary war leader to whom the Western World must be forever in debt.  He was a prophet in his own time as this quotation, written well over 100 years ago, demonstrates.]     



"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!
Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia
in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many
countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods
of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the
Prophet rule or live.  A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and
refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity.  The fact that in Mohammedan
law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as
a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the
faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. 


Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion
paralyzes the social development of those who follow it.  No stronger retrograde
force exists in the world.  Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant
and proselytizing faith.  It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising
fearless warriors at every step, and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the
strong arms of science, the science against which it (Islam) has vainly struggled,
the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.” 
                                                               
[ Postnotes:  (1)  Sir Winston, as an officer of the British Army, served in the Sudan and in the Crimean War; in both instances against the Muslims.  These experiences gave him ample opportunity to observe the structure of Islamic society.  (2)  Churchill’s quotes were taken from the volume: Sir Winston Churchill; “The River War”, first edition, Volume II, pages 248-250, published by Longmans, Green & Company, 1899.  (3)  If Sir Winston were alive today, it is doubtful that a person in Great Britain criticizing Islam publicly could be arrested, and then fined or jailed, and even more doubtful that any  Muslims would be sitting in the English Parliament! ]

Boxingthefox's extensive list is of course very racist ???????

I don't have a list, and have not  posted one.

Apr 25, 2015 -- 12:02PM, pandora1963 wrote:

so explain why it shouldn't be a crime then

Depends, because Islamphobia seems to have 2 very different definitions.
1. It's a fear/hatred of Islam
2. It's a fear/hate of Muslims

The former is a hatred of a belief system which seems perfectly reasonable to me, (and unprosecutable). On that basis I'm an Islamophobe, a Christianophobe, a Hinduphobe et al. Fck all wrong with that. It's called "being rational".

The latter is a different fish kettle entirely.

A c&p from a rabid anti-Islam website gives me no pleasure either, Injera.

Churchill was a fine war leader, a great man in that respect, but was not the deepest thinker and his reputation has been considerably burnished since the war. Not for nothing the Tories failed in '45. The fact you post this on the centenary of Gallipoli is a terrible irony.

My grandfather served there during the terrible adventure and never allowed Churchill's name to be mentioned in his home. So that opening bold assertion is problematic.

As to the (now infamous passage) it was written by an angry Churchill who was pissed off at the Muslim driver of his train back from the Sudan who he felt was not making a sufficient effort to get the train moving after it broke down.

The passage was removed from the next edition of the book and has, in any case, been judiciously edited. A section has been removed.

'Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die; but ...'

Churchill was many things, but I doubt even his ego would approve of his description as a prophet.

Apologies Boxing - it was Flush's list and of course I was being flippant.

Orioles - I have no argument with you about Churchill's weaknesses.

But I do assert he spoke profoundly about the dangers of Islam.

What positives do you believe Islam gives this world?

Or even more pertinently to the Democratic and Christian country of Great Britain in 2015 ?

Injera

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A c&p from a rabid anti-Islam website gives me no pleasure either, Injera.

What part of the list is untrue?

good question injera.

All I see is  this country being very tolerant to a group of people who are the most intolerant in the world.

when they have tipped the balance they will ban the Labour party too

gays are in for it

as are anyone who is not a muslim

convert or die

the majority of peace loving muslims will follow what their leaders will tell them

ps labour are simply after votes for a 5 year term

has any party got a long term (say 30 year) plan for UK plc

most are out just to get the lecture circuit and book deals sorted and their membership of quangos, companies and the house of lords

when you find out the small (relatively) number who believe in violence then turns out to be millions (as a percentage) don't you just feel nice and safe in Notting Hill land!!??

gays are in for it

As will anyone having sex with someone who is not their wife or husband.

None of the above will be the concern of forumites of course.

ps
it is not  a religion
the geezer who started it all was a warmonger

he used islam as a religion to justify his actions

it is more a political movement

we will all be dead by the time they take over but take over they will

have you checked out the demographic

How can you ban islamophobia? Really, I mean quite apart from defining what exactly islamophobia is in order to prove someone is guilty of it all that will happen is that anyone who gets prosecuted will go straight to the EU court who will say that one man's rights can no longer trump another man's rights so both of you go away and learn to get along. The CPS will never EVER secure a conviction for Islamophobia!!

Ethically speaking though I think its totally wrong to 'ban' it. Freedom of opinion is a core british value and whilst I hate some of the things you atheists write on these threads, I'd absolutely defend your right to say them!

It has the potential to disappear up its own arse too. If someone said that it is highly unlikely that the Quran was dictated by God.
That's not only an atheistic belief but is also the belief of Sikhs, Hindus, Christians, Jews, and ex-Muslims, etc., then:

i) What is being said is true.
ii) Appalled Moslems will describe this truth as ‘Islamophobia’.
iii) The new law would've made ‘Islamophobia’ illegal.
iv) Ed will have made the truth illegal.

it would be interesting to hear the "british muslims" views on the persecution of non muslims in muslim countries.

And what are they doing about it, putting pressure on governments or sending charitable donations to those suffering.

It is an indication of how far we have gone and how it is so too late!!!
If a mainstream party is serious about it!!!

All far too late.  10 percent of the population by 2050 but don't believe any official figures.(probably a lot more)

Especially with our friends coming across the Med at the moment.

A million illegals here already for starters (how many are muslim?)

Anyway, the demographic is against you  (eventually)

What you guys aren't getting is it doesn't matter if it makes no sense or that it will be difficult to prosecute. Put yourself in the minds of the Labour party seeking to instill terror in you. A widely drawn unclear law is all the better to terrorise you to behave how they want you to, just in case. Job done.

I am more worried about Harman still being there with a finger in every PIE!!!

as soon as there is a population of over 25% muslims that's it.

All will vote for whatever political party they create. That's enough to win a general election.

in certain seats will be hardly any muslims living. other areas will only require 30% of the population to get the seat.

If the turnout is say 80% in a general election, 100% will turn out for the muslim party.

The other votes split between tories, labour, lib dems, ukip, gives them the seat.

Muslim areas will smell

maleuk

If the turnout is say 80% in a general election, 100% will turn out for the muslim party.

You forget we have postal voting now so I've corrected it for you:

If the turnout is say 80% in a general election, 120% will turn out for the muslim party.

Yes eo  but now we have bournemouth in the prem  all will change - they don't have any of them dan saff!!!  In fact the isle of purbeck had a drop in immigration!!!!

ps
there won't be any debate about it on islam tv  sorry I mean bbc

and the islamic promoting guardian will help them many of their contributors are from the religion of pieces.

Or should we say the political movement that calls it self a religion

The rule is to none but Allah.” [TMQ 6:57]

Very good EO!

sorry eo, you are of course right.

and any skulduggery oe election rigging will have to be swept under the carpet as don't want to be accused of racism.

The muslim party will of course win fair and square and will be no problems if people convert. If not then its only fair that non believers pay higher tax and carnt claim any benefits as is often the case in muslim governments.

Lol. Only Chit Chat could go from a pledge to make religious hatred an aggravated offence to a complete takeover of the country in a few posts!

Although gems like 'Islam TV/BBC' and 'Islamic promoting Guardian' make it all worthwhile :))

Only orioles could go on  ignoring and denying what is going on in their own country.

At least we know the dozens of muslim gangs raping young white girls never happened.

As tower hamlets muslim take over never happened

If you stick your head in the sand do you realise how vulnerable your bottom is.

10 percent or more by 2050

but no one knows how many illegals (say approx 1 million) - clearly telegraph xenophobia

watch out for the invasion from north africa via italy haha

nah  its not happening  - I apologise for being concerned orioles

ps  have you any idea how many islamic writers contribute to the gruniad

You're not concerned, you're hysterical. Calm down, man. You'd have been no good at Rorke's Drift.

I made a mental note of what odds I'd offer that if orioles gave a view he'd be up for changing the law once again to elevate certain sections of the community above others. I won't say what the odds were for fear of being an after timer.

Having orioles at Rorke's Drift would have been instrumental in keeping the Fuzzy Wuzzies out. Every sand bag was vital. Plus with the wind in his bellows he'd have belted out a fair tune when it came time to sing I'm sure.

I'm happy to champion the cause of Anglicanism too; not just our Muslim overlords.

What I find odd about the statement is that, as far as I'm aware, religious and racially aggravated offences are already on the books - notwithstanding a raft of statutes addressing the problem.

Quite why our glorious leader, leading us to the sunlit uplands of a socialist paradise (virgins to be respected) felt it necessary to drive home the point is a mystery. Although I confess I haven't read whatever this particular bout of pant soiling is about, so it may be he didn't say anything remotely sinister or confusing.

Perhaps you should have made that point to Pandorica who doesn't seem to be aware of the fact that the last Labour government made several attempts to get their stupidly divisive statute passed.

Quite why our glorious leader, leading us to the sunlit uplands of a socialist paradise (virgins to be respected) felt it necessary to drive home the point is a mystery.

VOTES.

lol ... That's the forensic mind that makes you the soit disant champion of Betfair's Chit Chat forum!

I wouldn't be so presumptious. At least not until your abdication is official.

It's not enough to keep bouncing you or to be seen to keep bouncing you. People need to hear you say ouch.

C'est "soi-disant" mon vieux

Surely not.

Boeuf a la mode orioles. Boeuf a la mode.

MILLIBAND MAYHEM



I’m not entirely sure that my blood pressure will take much more. The protracted battle of my football team to avoid relegation is bad enough, but the regular outpourings of bilge (and I use the term in a caring way)  from Mr Miliband is taking things to a whole new level. His latest idea over the weekend,  is to crack down on ‘rogue landlords’ by imposing a cap on rent increases during a tenancy, expanding tenant rights and extending the minimum letting period to three years.

Now I have to state a vested interest here. I have a relatively large number of private rental properties, but most economists do not, and they are pretty much unanimously agreed on one thing – rent controls are destructive. In a 1990 poll of 464 economists published in the  American Economic Review, 93 percent agreed, that “a ceiling on rents reduces the quantity and quality of housing available”. There is agreement on this from both right and left….from Nobel Prize winners Milton Friedman and Friedrich Hayek  from the right and their  fellow Nobel laureate Gunnar Myrdal, an important architect of the Swedish Labour Party’s welfare state, from  the left. Myrdal said, “Rent control has in certain Western countries constituted, maybe, the worst example of poor planning by governments lacking courage and vision.” His fellow Swedish socialist economist  Assar Lindbeck asserted, “In many cases rent control appears to be the most efficient technique presently known to destroy a city – except for bombing.”

Economists have shown that rent control diverts new investment, which would otherwise have gone to rental housing, and that it leads to housing deterioration, fewer repairs, and less maintenance. For example, Paul Niebanck found that 29 percent of rent-controlled houses in the United States had  deteriorated, but only 8 percent of the uncontrolled units were in such a state of disrepair. Joel Brenner and Herbert Franklin cited similar statistics for England and France.

None of this is of any interest or concern to Mr Miliband  of course, who it seems is prepared to go to any lengths to be seen to be hammering groups  who he thinks we (the electorate) perceive to be the bad guys.  It doesn’t matter that it won’t help anyone, and will actually cause damage. It might play well to  the electorate, and somehow that’s enough.

Let me give you a different perspective on what it means to be a private landlord in the UK in 2015.

Now I said at the outset that I had a vested interest in this. Well I do…and then again, I don’t. You see I have never increased the rent for anyone living in any of my properties (not even by the rate of inflation) and I have never asked anyone to leave at any time, who was paying their rent and not causing a problem for neighbours, I’m not sure who these ‘rogue landlords’  are who Miliband is demonising in order to attract the populist vote, but they’re not characters that I’ve ever come into contact with. All the landlords I know (and I know a lot) are just like me – they just want a decent tenant who pays the rent on time, looks after the property reasonably well and doesn’t annoy the neighbours. If they get that, then all the landlords I know would be  happy for them to  stay as long as they like and  keep paying the same rent. Three years…pah! Stay for ten if you like…longer!

What they get though…and Miliband and his ilk won’t  even acknowledge this…is a fair proportion of deadbeats who don’t pay, wreck the place, upset the neighbours and then disappear leaving behind arrears and a big refurbishment bill. If you offered me £1 for every bad tenant and £100 for every bad landlord, I’d take the former every time and know that I’d come out considerably richer by making that choice. And yet I’ve not heard any talk about ‘rogue tenants’. No votes in it, you see.

The people Milibands new policy will hit most are the accidental landlords  – home owners who have been unable to sell their house and so have rented it out for a period of time. Currently they’re able to rent out  for 6 months at a time, thereby affording them flexibility should an opportunity to sell come along. The new policy would rob them of that flexibility, and probably tip the balance away from renting being a viable option. So a policy which economists agree is destructive, will also cause hardship to hard working home owners (I think I’m getting the hand of this political BS now!) and further reduce the supply of good quality housing to renters.

Miliband cares nothing about the economic impact of his policies, just so long as they  resonate politically to the hard-of-thinking. Take the proposed clampdown on non-dom’s – wealthy individuals living in the UK but treated differently for tax purposes. “It’s not fair!” goes up the cry from Labour, and millions subscribing to the politics of envy, cheer their approval. Maybe it isn’t fair, but here’s the thing…these people aren’t here for the weather, they have the luxury of being able to live anywhere, and if you make life difficult for them , they will simply up-sticks and move elsewhere.

So what? Well when they go, they’ll take their businesses and their  money with them (so there’s no tax to be garnered anyway) and when that happens, all the people who are making money from serving their  needs whilst they’re here, will be looking elsewhere for equally lucrative employment. It may well be a long search, and while that’s going on, these people aren’t paying tax either.

The entire Miliband/Labour rhetoric has been focussed on demonising the wealthy and extolling ways in which they can be parted from their money. But here’s what’s interesting…the top 0.5% of earners in the UK already pay more tax than the bottom 55% combined. Like their non-dom counterparts, many of these big contributors have the  wherewithal to live and work anywhere they choose.  And if you make it too uncomfortable for them, where they choose to live and work will not be the UK.

Countless studies have showed that over-taxing the wealthy always  results in a fall in the overall tax take. Those affected either move away, exhibit satisficing behaviour or avoid tax in other ways. So again, the only arguments for taxing the wealthy more beyond a certain point, (and that point would seem to have been reached)  are political rather than economic. We need to look after high earners, not vilify them. They’re already paying more than their fair share. If they decide to stop doing that – and they can – who will make up the shortfall?

Probably the most worrying aspect of what we’ve seen thus far in the election campaign, is Milibands approach to wealth creation. If he has an approach to it (other than ignoring it) I’ve yet to see it. He hasn’t mentioned it – not once. The whole narrative has been focussed upon dividing up a pie which already exists rather than increasing the size of the pie for everyone, and helping those who want to do a bit of baking for themselves.  As a business owner or entrepreneur it’s hard to escape the perception that Miliband et al view you as a greedy chancer who deserves to be milked of your ill-gotten gains as quickly and comprehensively as possible. They don’t appear to see you as a  creator of wealth, employment and tax revenue which filters down throughout the economy at all.

It’s unclear where Miliband thinks the money comes from that he wants to re-distribute so readily, or what he thinks will happen when those currently making it decide that it’s no longer worth the hassle,  or  indeed that doing it somewhere else might bring better rewards.

Up until now Miliband seems to be getting away with all of this, and he’s getting away with it for a very simple reason – large swathes of the population are more inclined towards dragging others down to their level than they are towards aspiring to climb to the heights themselves. They are more concerned with seeing others lose than they are in seeing themselves win. They are more interested in making others poorer than they are in making themselves richer. To many, dragging others down  feels just as good as hauling themselves up. And it’s a lot less effort. Especially when Ed is promising to do it for you.

Miliband knows all this of course (despite any impressions to the contrary, he isn’t stupid) and is playing on it for all its worth, Will it work? Well we’ll all know for sure on May 8th.   The uneducated and ill-informed part of the electorate can perhaps be forgiven for succumbing to their base instincts, but Miliband can’t be forgiven for playing to them and putting his own political success over economic expediency and efficiency. He knows rent controls will be detrimental, he knows hitting non-doms will be damaging and he knows putting up taxes for high earners will  be counter-productive. But winning votes trumps all of that to him.

As I write this, we’re about 10 days from the election, and the most likely outcome appears to be a Miliband-led minority Labour government propped up by Jimmy Krankies younger sister and her cronies who don’t want to be part of the UK at all. If that doesn’t fill you with dread, you’re probably reading the wrong newsletter.
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41 thoughts on “Miliband Mayhem”

    Ben Wibaut
    April 27, 2015 at 3:02 pm

    Here here, well said!!
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        Geoffrey Williams
        April 27, 2015 at 4:19 pm

        Very well said and put.
        I find all this labour stuff frightening.
        let’s hope sense prevails! !
        An admirer Geoffrey
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        John Foster
        April 27, 2015 at 4:34 pm

        Mustn’t knock the Milliband too much as he represents the best chance the Tories have for re-election, and every utterance of his should by rights help our cause. However the GPB have a history of shooting themselves in the foot and the politics of envy may yet give us the worst possible result, in which case god help us all. At 81 I am frankly glad I will have only a few more years to put up with the mess this country is in already. It’s my children and grandchildren I worry for. In a few decades there will be a majority of voting Muslims in UK and believe me, Allah will certainly NOT help us. What a prospect.
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        Stephen Desbonne
        April 28, 2015 at 10:16 am

        This is an opener!. Very well said!. Thank’s.
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    George Brooks
    April 27, 2015 at 3:03 pm

    Best thing you have ever written . Why let the people who hate us ,rule us.?
    Regards George
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    Dave Ritchie
    April 27, 2015 at 3:09 pm

    I a m amazed that it appears that so many do not see through Milibands stance and it proves that appealing to the politics of envy gets votes.
    It is so obvious that to carry on the good reparation work that has been happening in the last 5 years is the way to go.
    I am hoping that the reason at the moment is that traditional labour voters are embarrassed to change their normal vote and I hope that in the privacy of the voting booth they decide to vote conservative and keep the progress moving on
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    David Hill
    April 27, 2015 at 3:15 pm

    You are so right. The problem being the electorate must have been controlled in such a manner that they are brainwashed.

    How comes nobody remembers the mess the last socialist government left the country in?
    The mess they have started in the Middle east has no where near peaked yet, yet all forgotten…..

    I don’t blame the labour party, they are simply winging it. No, I blame the people stupid enough to vote them in over and over again.

    No different to what they did after the 2nd world war…..voted Churchill out and replaced him with the socialist.

    Socialism has invaded every area of public life such as Schools, hospital and the civil service. These people are educating the young to believe the lies they tell. And yes, a socialist government will get in and yet again fund bureacrasy to make sure a number stay in these positions.

    After Labour and the SNP form a government, would the last person to leave the country, kindly switch off the lights please…
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    Ted
    April 27, 2015 at 3:19 pm

    The shortage of lettings is due to Maggy giving right to buy at crazy prices people who can afford too should buy private housing not council or association houses.
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    Andy Young
    April 27, 2015 at 3:21 pm

    Great blog Post, and so very ‘spot on’ with your observation and possible outcomes.

    God help the majority of the populace who aspire to greater things, if this Blair Clone, ‘Red Ed’ and his cronies get into power with the help of the SNP who seek to bring Scotland out of the UK!

    Hopefully, the voting population (or at least those who are working in some capacity), will see through his weasel words, and vote accordingly!

    … My fingers are crossed!
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    MICHAEL R
    April 27, 2015 at 3:28 pm

    As ever, John – on the button.
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    GORDON
    April 27, 2015 at 3:28 pm

    mr labour leader says he is a geeke will promise anything then create a balls up

    IF Labour and the SNP form a government, would the last person to leave the country, kindly switch off the lights please…
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    Terry Fennell
    April 27, 2015 at 3:39 pm

    Agree entirely John.
    Ihaave always thought of Labour as the Party of the Shirker!
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    IAN
    April 27, 2015 at 3:39 pm

    You’ve said it all – well nearly: regarding the proposed mansion tax – who will decide whether a property is worth say £2,000,001 or £1,999,999 when assessing the band? A bunch of w….kers in the Valuation Office Agency who will need to hire even more staff to give extra aggravation to the market. It will probably cost more to collect than it will take in, and just piss off the wealthy who may well just up sticks.
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        John Harrison
        April 27, 2015 at 3:46 pm

        Absolutely, and although I live in the north, I can see that this tax is grossly unfair to people who live in London, and have done so for years. Two million pounds does indeed buy you a mansion where I live, but it’s nothing more than a regular family home in many parts of the capital. What this policy would also do is artificially distort the property market so that anything in the £2 million to £2.5 million range becomes unsaleable.
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    Sue
    April 27, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    John you are absolutely spot on !!
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    Julian B
    April 27, 2015 at 3:53 pm

    Absolutely right John. The way I see it, if your one of those people who blames everyone but themselves for the situation they are in who looks at those who have wealth with disdain and hatred then you will probably vote labour. On the other hand if you take control of your own life, without blaming others and are prepared to get off your backside and make a difference, aspire to be wealthy and do what it takes then you vote conservative.
    Miliband also wants a minimum wage of £8, I work with loads of small businesses who employ staff at the minimum wage. An increase to this level will add £30K a year to some of these businesses, how the hell do they afford that??
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        Brian
        April 28, 2015 at 7:54 am

        My father taught me to appreciate the fact when the boss bought a new ‘Roller’ as that meant the company was doing well and my job looked safer. He also said that it should give me the aspiration to get one myself.
        He was a socialist who had fought for this country for 6 years but believed the working man had an obligation to ‘Give a good days work for a good days pay’ he would turn in his grave to see Milliband and his
        cronies ruining a once proud if not always wise movement.
        I am 75 years of age have run several companies employed lots of mainly decent hard working people only to see the economy and the country ruined by the Blairs, Scargills, Hattons Crows etc. A good example of there thinking : ‘ Let us get more people to university’ . Very good. But rather than raise the standard of education they lower the difficulty of the exam to allow more under qualified students studying stupid degrees in ridiculous subjects and flooding the market with unemployable ”up themselves” people who think hard work is for others. But they needn’t worry if the two Eds get in because the state will subsidise them to travel on so called gap years and to fanny around until they finally wake up smell the coffee and have to earn a living . Where do they go into POLITICS.
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    John Angell
    April 27, 2015 at 3:59 pm

    Twice in my lifetime a socialist administration has wrecked the British economy. In Harold Wilson’s day the top rate of tax was 97.5%. This had two unintended consequences. Wealthy people hired expensive accountants to prove that they didn’t owe any tax at all, and anybody with any get-up-and-go simply got-up-and-went. It was called the Brain Drain. America, Canada, Australia and other parts of the world eagerly accepted the brightest people we had to offer. Most of them didn’t come back.

    Now Ed Balls is the shadow chancellor, and he was Gordon Brown’s right-hand man. I have never been able to decide if that note: “There’s no money left” was supposed to be boasting or apologising. Whichever, more of the same extravagance that the last socialist government employed will simply render null and void all the efforts we have made to get back on our feet.

    We can only hope all the polls and pundits have got it wrong.
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        Alan.S
        April 27, 2015 at 11:02 pm

        Ah Yes, I remember it well. With Wilson and Callaghan in the 60s & 70′s I really could not afford to stay here with 18% mortgage rates etc and emmigrated.I went from average UK (2 up 2 down) to average in Africa (3 bed detached, 2 cars and able to live on my salary so my wife really could stay at home when we had kids. Blair & Brown screwed it again but PLEASE NOT A MILLIBAND AS WELL
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    Kev Cooper
    April 27, 2015 at 4:06 pm

    I could almost understand the Labour numpties promoting class war if it weren’t for the fact they’re as privileged as the “Tory boys” from the view point of most of the electorate. I want kids to grow up wanting to be successful and wealthy, not sitting on their arse hating those who’ve made it.
    The Labour party have enabled a shirking class whose aspiration seems to stretch no further than owning two Rottweilers rather than one. Still it keeps Milliband, Mr & Mrs Balls et al in cushy jobs.
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    Mike
    April 27, 2015 at 4:10 pm

    Bang on the button John! This needs to reach a wider audience.
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    jeff newton
    April 27, 2015 at 4:29 pm

    With only 10 days to go it requires a well known presenter like Andre Marr to tell the country the true facts of reality like John has rightly pointed out – without any particular bias to any political party but a realist quoting facts like 0.5%of population pay more than 55% of the bottom earners – but this would need someone from the treasury non political to confirm these facts. There must be some non political spokesman from the treasury who can confirm these statements and not idealogical claims. Surely someone knows someone who can do it ?
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        David Hill
        April 27, 2015 at 5:37 pm

        Andrew Marrs is a raving Leftie….!
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    Roy Aylmer
    April 27, 2015 at 4:46 pm

    You are spot on, as usual John; when will you stand for PM?
    Joking aside, did you see that Blair crawled out of the woodwork last week to join the hustings
    He said we cannot have a vote on whether we stay in the EU in case the electorate vote the wrong way.
    He should know all about the electorate voting the wrong way when they elected him 3 times
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    Richard Whelan
    April 27, 2015 at 6:01 pm

    A very good article exposing the myths of a man who will say anything to gain power. There are only nine days to go and obviously the result sane hard working people need is a Cameron led Conservative government; no coalition, an overall majority. Will we get it? Well the betting seems to point to the Conservatives gaining the most seats, but without a majority, so it’s up to the floaters, lets hope they come good on the day.
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    Ian Platt
    April 27, 2015 at 6:04 pm

    To vote Labour in May can be a purely emotional rather than logical decision.

    The problem with Labour’s rant about Zero Hours contracts, quite apart from them representing a mere 2% of employment contracts, is that what is demonstrated is that so few of Labour’s leaders have ever managed a business, or for some even had a proper job.

    Any savvy employer will balance the hours worked by a number of employees so that over 12 weeks no employee works “regular” hours, they will be deliberately employed individually on erratic hours. Probably many workers will then be worse off. The employer will pay much the same hours overall as before.

    Just as the freezing of domestic fuel prices was, and is, counter productive it shows naivety. Another example, student fees helping the better off students and their families. Ed Miliband says he will be happy to pay £3,000 per year mansion tax, but to bring in £2.5 billion it will have to be £23,000, how out of touch can you get and probably costing more to collect than it brings in and in addition a 50p top tax rate will reduce overall tax take from the £150,00+ earners, all these examples show an inability to exercise rigour in examining policy proposals.

    Just last week I froze my Gas & Electricity prices into the second half of 2016, saving myself £250+ per annum, without Ed’s help.

    I’m not sure that any of them credit the electorate with any intelligence but we certainly have had enough of being treated as stupid.

    This latest wheeze on Rents is another example of Labour’s short term populist policies designed to treat us all as uncomprehending idiots.

    My problem is I have a Labour MP, who is a decent man and a hard working constituency MP, compared with his arrogant female Tory predecessor. Both were unfortunately Lobby fodder, so the only option is to vote for Mr Farage. He should be inspired by the “Wee Hinny in the Helmet Hair” who looks as if she is creating a political earthquake in Scotland. Maybe It can be done in England even at this late hour. At least that would be hilarious. We all need a good laugh and the left wing bias of the BBC and Channel 4,is not enough, even if it is risible.
    Ian
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    Anthony Neville
    April 27, 2015 at 6:15 pm

    Congratulations on a great blog post. I do not think Labour will ever, ever understand that the more you take from the productive members of society, the less productive they become. It saddens me that our country is heading towards a culture of take, take, take, from a culture that in the main used to be give, give, give. John F Kennedy used to quote: Ask not what your country can do for you – but what you can do for your country. We can only hope that there are enough sensible people at the coming election to ruin Miliband’s chances of becoming Prime Minister – and prevent him ever putting into effect such disastrous policies.
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    Alan Newton
    April 27, 2015 at 7:28 pm

    Well, yes I do agree with your points overall. However, the Tories and New Labour are just different shades of grey to me. You have to have fairness in a British society to make it work. People are too cynical and bloody minded in this country to pedastalise any politicians and when they do the ‘worship’ doesn’t last very long – just look at the public attitude to Margaret Thatcher and Tony Blair these days. George Osborne has made some glaring errors, the Bedroom Tax being one particularly unfair ‘attack’ on poorer members of society and the Child Benefit fiasco being another, and really there are a number of factors which have enabled the economy to improve the way it has over the time of this government and those factors have had very little to do with Osborne’s economic policy. People see the Tories as looking after their own and it shows a weakness in the Tory leadership when they don’t overcome this attitude. Public perception of political actions is absolutely everything, in my opinion and neither Cameron nor Osborne seem to have come to grips with this. The Scottish referendum was a blinding example of how badly they handle things – panic stations a week before the referendum and that panic was blatently obvious to everyone. Cameron and Hague have run an abysmally weak election campaign and what they haven’t done is convince the good old British public that they’d be a better choice because they are actually fairer to people than Labour. In many respects, they don’t deserve to win and, to be honest, I’m pretty sure that we’ll end up with a Labour government in a couple of weeks. The best thing then would be a failure of that government and a new election in a few months and hopefully the Tories might just get their act together for that one. I hope!!
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        John Harrison
        April 27, 2015 at 8:00 pm

        Agree that the tory campaign has been poor. However, I don’t see this as NEW Labour. At least Blair understood the need to embrace enterprise and business. This just feels like old Labour…business is the enemy to be stamped on and milked. Anyone whose achieved anything needs dragging back into the pack.
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            Alan Newton
            April 27, 2015 at 10:01 pm

            Replying to John: Yes, I do agree with what you say but, to me, the Tories just don’t get their messages across very well. Cameron started his working life in public relations and advertising but he certainly hasn’t developed this into something usable in politics. Personally, I think Labour, New and Old, have been disastrous for this country and not only in terms of business and the economy. I’m not sure that I agree with you about Blair because it was his government which enabled a, shall I say it, corrupt banking system. Obviously Osborne has made a reasonable job of things but he still presents a toffs image. They’ll just have to reinvent themselves to get the message over to the British public. I’ll tell you now that had I been involved in designing this campaign I would have been a lot more empathetic to the ordinary people of this country rather than just going on a Labour bashing exercise. If people think they are being addressed personally, then they listen. If you want to see how it’s done, look at how Boris Johnson got to be Mayor of London – despite his background he struck a chord with the working classes of London. I live in a middle class area in the North East of England. Most of my neighbours (and friends) are now classed as middle class but came from working class backgrounds. They still, however, vote Labour. Why? Because they don’t believe a word the Tories say and they still identify with Labour despite the barmy policies.
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        John Harrison
        April 27, 2015 at 8:00 pm

        Agree that the tory campaign has been poor. However, I don’t see this as NEW Labour. At least Blair understood the need to embrace enterprise and business. This just feels like old Labour…business is the enemy to be stamped on and milked. Anyone whose achieved anything needs dragging back into the pack.
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    Ralph
    April 27, 2015 at 8:21 pm

    Ted, the council tenant who ops to purchase his council house is still a council tenant owning his own house. The proceeds will go to building a replacement council house for a future tenant. Simple two families housed.
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    David Lean
    April 27, 2015 at 9:16 pm

    Good article John, this is why I’m voting for the only party with commoon-sense policies, namely UKIP

    David
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        Paul O'Neill
        April 28, 2015 at 7:59 am

        Thanks David for your vote, its appreciated.

        pp Ed Miliband.
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    Stephen C. Wilde
    April 28, 2015 at 1:06 am

    I knew before I read it you’d be a true blue torie rear end licker! the conservatives are only for the well off and sitting pretty, Labour is my only hope being on a VERY love income, I need the bedroom tax reversed for a start…….labour has compassion for the lesser people, smarmy Cameron only loves and boosts the rich!
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        Paul O'Neill
        April 28, 2015 at 8:04 am

        Labour complains about the so-called ‘bedroom tax’ but ignores the 250,000 families condemned to live in bedsits and further 1.8 million families stuck on housing waiting lists. It’s not right to make families wait for years for a house that’s big enough, while other households on benefits can live in homes that are too big for their needs at no extra cost. This policy is already starting to help these people and there are exemptions to protect tenants with special requirements.

        Labour let house building fall to the lowest levels since the 1920′s but not once has Labour apologised for this mess.
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        John Harrison
        April 28, 2015 at 8:53 am

        That’s quite a common perception Stephen, which is kind of what I was talking about. The truth though, is that the Tories have been very good at extracting tax revenues from high earners, and this group now contribute a higher proportion to the exchequer than was ever the case under Labour. They seem to have achieved this through economic expediency…balancing off levels of taxation with incentive retention, encouraging enterprise and welcoming wealthy individuals from overseas. What they haven’t done, is impose politically motivated rules and levies simply to appease the less well off.
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    John Borrow
    April 28, 2015 at 8:35 am

    A good blog John.
    A very important and quite frightening point, that is never aired on television, is the speed at which the Muslim nation in Britain are increasing. Perhaps it’s not politically correct to mention it, but someone needs the balls to say it. The way things are going we will become a Muslim majority in the not too distant future. This isn’t scaremongering, the facts speak for themselves. The native Britain has on average 1.6 children, whereas the Asian population has an average of 4.1, if you do the maths you will find this to be true. Churches are empty and falling in to disrepair while Mosques are filled and springing up at an alarming rate. Voting for another left wing government will only serve to speed this up. If UKIP were to present themselves in a more genteel way and explain their policies with less confrontation perhaps they could have more say in future governments. Personally, I can’t complain as I never vote. I look after my affairs so that the outcome of elections has no effect on me whoever wins. I just find it so sad that the country I love, that my father gave his life for, doesn’t seem to be English anymore.
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    Brian
    April 28, 2015 at 9:45 am

    Well, if I wasn’t depressed before, I am now! The prospect of Labout in power is a dismal one and you have hit the nail on the head, John – thanks for a great post.
    I can’t understand this 3 year rental thing: as a small-time landlord I would be happy for someone to stay 3 years if they pay on time and are decent people. That doesn’t need legislation – it’s landlords who need protection from unscrupulous tenants that need protecting – and that applies as much to councils and housing associations too!
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    Arnold Dearing
    April 28, 2015 at 10:19 am

    Well said John, however am I the only person in the UK REALLY listening to what that Aussie Marxist who runs the Green Party is saying. They are now nothing to do with going “green” but a far, far left party who must have come from Militant or the Trotskyist Workers Party (being from the soviet republic of South Yorkshire you will know all about them).
    The “Green” Party wish to scrap all Horse Races and Greyhound races, build about a zillion houses, re-nationalise the railways, re-introduce Council Houses, raise benefits. “Restore the NHS” whatever that means and worst of all bring most industry into public ownership.
    These people are dangerous if not totally nuts. Why have the press been silent, why has TV ignored them.
    If you don’t believe me – read their manifesto, its scary.
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        John Harrison
        April 28, 2015 at 10:33 am

        Suspect they get ignored for the same reason as the bloke ranting on a park bench…because they’ve got absolutely zero chance of putting any of it into practice. We don’t have the same luxury with Miliband.

Gadzooks Sir !

c & p    violation !