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rob_dylan
23 Apr 15 10:06
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I bought this fancy looking dorset cereals simply delicious muesli the other day, £1.99 for 410g.  Had a couple of sizeable bowls for brekky one day, same again the next day.  Box was finished.  That was 750cal/day for brekky just with the cereal, prob closer to 1000cal with all the milk added.  For breakfast.  That is like a big fk off fry up.  It was very tasty and had nuts and fruit and sh1t in but it was too easy to eat loads of it.  They reckon a serving is 45g (have a day off, I had about 5x that each day).  Maybe Porridge is ok but who is gonna eat that without adding sugar?  And it is the least tasty of all cereals imo.

This morning I got tropical granola, well tasty but that is even worse, 20% more calories per 100g and 14% fat.  Oven chips are 5% fat ffs.   I never eat cereal and think I am going to halt this habit in its tracks.  Though it is tasty and convenient, so is a bag of crisps a bag of nuts and an apple.

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By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 23 Apr 15 10:11
Porridge.  Just add as little sugar as you can manage with.  I have about 75g and a level teaspoon is plenty of sugar for me - could easily have less.  It is the only food or drink I add sugar to.  Probably eat more than that in processed food.

Reduce by one grain of sugar each time and you will never notice the difference!
By:
Aunty Post
When: 23 Apr 15 10:12
As it happens I just had a bowl of delicious porridge, with coconut milk and blueberries.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 23 Apr 15 10:15
Lifestyles of the rich and famous on here!

Pozza cooked in water in microwave, splash of milk and sugar.
By:
Aunty Post
When: 23 Apr 15 10:17
Rob,  I'm assuming you are training regularly, for  your next run and Triathlon.

That being the case, you need the calories and carbs, and can pretty much eat what you want.
By:
U.A.
When: 23 Apr 15 10:24
Cereal is a horrible thing invented by the Americans. Invariably it involves starting the day with some kind of grain (often involving gluten) sugar and milk, 3 things you are better off without, but at the same time everyone tries to tell you it's healthy. It's not and it's not tasty either. Why eat something that tastes horrible that isn't any good for you. If you want to eat gluten, sugar and dairy then at least have cake for breakfast and enjoy what you are eating a bit more.
By:
Aunty Post
When: 23 Apr 15 10:28
Again, porridge is so versatile. Don't pay over the odds, for something with a fancy label, and save your dosh for the add ins.

Try it with caremalised bananas, or Maple Syrup, or both together.

Delicious and a great start to a winters day.
By:
twizzle22
When: 23 Apr 15 10:34
Use CANADIAN maple syrup as a sugar substitute...far better for you and tastes beautiful in porridge.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 23 Apr 15 10:39
I put on weight since Christmas actually whilst training, but that is cos I packed up smoking and seemed to replace every smoke with a snickers bar.  Got to nip that in the bud. 

I've got a big bag of tescos basic porridge in the cupboard I only ever cook it on the hob with water then eat it straight out of the pan with as little sugar as I dare.  But, honestly, I don't like it.  It is supposed to be the best thing for slow release energy though.  This granola this morning was lovely but I had about 1000 calories and it wasn't as nice as a fry up.
By:
brendanuk1
When: 23 Apr 15 10:59
basic porridge is rank, far better to pay a few pence extra to actually enjoy it
By:
Big_Issue
When: 23 Apr 15 11:21
How much difference can there be, it's just rolled oats. The basic stuff is fin and looks no different to the more expensive stuff beside it.

I add honey to mine, having cooked 2/3 water and 1/3 milk with a pinch of salt.
By:
Foinavon
When: 23 Apr 15 11:28
Sounds like you are a sugar junkie Rob. That may be OK while you are a fit and active young man but watch out as you get older. Like most days, I had porridge made from rolled oats and water with no added sugar this morning. I love it, although I'll admit that I do have a big fry up once or twice a week for a change.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 23 Apr 15 11:41
Never used to be foinavon.  When I am on the wagon though, and even more so now that I have packed up smoking, I eat loads of chocolate and drink loads of diet coke.
By:
FlowerMyth
When: 23 Apr 15 11:58
No cereal is good for you. But it's the 'two bowls of' story on the heels of the '2kgs of spuds in 24 hours' story that concerns me. That's a potentially disastrous pattern of raising your blood sugar your developing. No amount of exercise will recover that, it will probably only speed up the metabolic damage.
By:
lybertyne
When: 23 Apr 15 12:11
I don't do anything until I've had 2 cups of tea and a proper bowl of porridge.  Keeps me going for a couple of hours and then I have a tub of cottage cheese. Cool
By:
rob_dylan
When: 23 Apr 15 12:33
FM:  I am in part doing it to ween me off my previous habit of eating last night's dinner.  whether it be chilli and rice, spag bol, shepherd's pie or baked spuds with veg and gravy.  Beginning to think that was healthier now, at least no sugar, lots of salt mind.
By:
Facts
When: 23 Apr 15 12:40
All cereals containing  refined wheat are full of sugar - as obviously is bread/ cakes etc. This high ( daily) intake of  refined wheat, is the main reason for people gaining weight.
By:
kenny mann
When: 23 Apr 15 12:43
Maybe Porridge is ok but who is gonna eat that without adding sugar?

Me. Haven't put sugar on anything for years. I put some blueberries and raspberries in it.
By:
Facts
When: 23 Apr 15 12:45
Big_Issue     23 Apr 15 11:21 
How much difference can there be, it's just rolled oats. The basic stuff is fin and looks no different to the more expensive stuff beside it.

I add honey to mine, having cooked 2/3 water and 1/3 milk with a pinch of salt.



Porridge oats are good for you. I love  them. My old Dad always used to add salt to his porridge ( proper traditional way ?) tried it once - it was disgusting, tasted like phlegm Cry
By:
rob_dylan
When: 23 Apr 15 12:45
Right I'll finish this packet and never again, you've all convinced me.  No harm done.  I've probably averaged one pack of cereal a year for the past 15 years.
By:
FlowerMyth
When: 23 Apr 15 12:51
I don't do anything until I've had 2 cups of tea and a proper bowl of porridge.  Keeps me going for a couple of hours and then I have a tub of cottage cheese.

And this is why all these people who think they are releasing sugars slowly are deluded. 'A proper bowl of porridge' should satiate you if it is doing its job properly. But the fact you are eating only two hours later shows that the sugars are released quickly. You eat it, it shoots your blood sugar up, insulin is released to drive the sugars out of your blood and (because it isn't an exact mechanism) you end up in 90 mins or so with less blood sugar than you should have and then you have to eat again. And so it goes on, all day. If I eat 3 rashers of bacon and 2 eggs for breakfast, scrambled in grass-fed butter and no carbs, I don't feel hungry again till the evening. Why? Because fat doesn't raise your blood sugar and correspondingly insulin doesn't get released. You therefore don't get glucose driven into your fats cells and you don't get hypoglycemia from that action and have to eat. Low fat diets that replace fats with grains are miserable and unhealthy.
By:
FlowerMyth
When: 23 Apr 15 12:51
I don't do anything until I've had 2 cups of tea and a proper bowl of porridge.  Keeps me going for a couple of hours and then I have a tub of cottage cheese.

And this is why all these people who think they are releasing sugars slowly are deluded. 'A proper bowl of porridge' should satiate you if it is doing its job properly. But the fact you are eating only two hours later shows that the sugars are released quickly. You eat it, it shoots your blood sugar up, insulin is released to drive the sugars out of your blood and (because it isn't an exact mechanism) you end up in 90 mins or so with less blood sugar than you should have and then you have to eat again. And so it goes on, all day. If I eat 3 rashers of bacon and 2 eggs for breakfast, scrambled in grass-fed butter and no carbs, I don't feel hungry again till the evening. Why? Because fat doesn't raise your blood sugar and correspondingly insulin doesn't get released. You therefore don't get glucose driven into your fats cells and you don't get hypoglycemia from that action and have to eat. Low fat diets that replace fats with grains are miserable and unhealthy.
By:
Aunty Post
When: 23 Apr 15 12:52
Just don't get why people are brainwashed into paying premium price, for goods with branding, and fancy packaging.

Do you think someone takes the trouble to sort through oats, and use sub standard ones for budget lines?

They are identical!

Same thing with sweetcorn. Seventeen pence for a big tin from "Mozzas" compared to three times as much for "Jolly Green Giant".

Tinned chopped tomatoes, again a third the price of brands, and just the same.
By:
U.A.
When: 23 Apr 15 13:16
Not all oats are identical. Often oats are grown as a rotational crop alongside wheat and so can contain the gluten from wheat, whereas some are not and hence have no wheat gluten in them. If your dinner is healthy then having that for breakfast is much better than having cereal.
By:
Thin and Crispy
When: 23 Apr 15 13:24
I like porridge but usually have it with some sort of fruit.  All porridge doesn't taste the same even Quaker Oats and Scots Porridge Oats are different.
By:
brendanuk1
When: 23 Apr 15 14:41
agree and own brands/economy are worst of the lot. If you cant taste difference fair enough buy the cheapo version
By:
rob_dylan
When: 23 Apr 15 15:09
got to admit some of the melodramatics on here are quite funny mind.  There was a thing on QI where they are talking about bread and milk and Alan Davies says "yeah that's right, apparently we are not supposed to eat bread and milk".

David MItchell gave him both barrels.  "Of course it is alright to eat bread and milk, we've been eating bread and milk for thousands of years.  It is demonstrably fine.  Do you think we are all supposed to live until we are 200 years old but because of all this poisonous bread and milk we keep devouring we can barely limp past 90".  Alan Davies looked like he wanted to cry.
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 23 Apr 15 15:50
get oats that are not contaminated by gluten.
i would but im milk intolerant
By:
PatraTheCat
When: 23 Apr 15 17:47
Totally agree with OP about recommended serving sizes. Read the nutritional information on the box of cereal and you know how Gulliver felt on his travels.
By:
padlock
When: 23 Apr 15 18:31
Porridge is the worst thing you can eat my doctor told me ....
By:
Hank Hill
When: 23 Apr 15 18:35
Ha, yeah that was a funny QI moment Rob. Oats and honey for me, sometimes with some blueberries thrown in for good measure Happy
By:
Facts
When: 23 Apr 15 18:42
David Mitchell is wrong. The wheat we eat today is nothing like the wheat of  75 years ago, never mind  ' thousands of years'  ago.
By:
brendanuk1
When: 23 Apr 15 21:32
swap bread and milk for ****, alcohol or sugar and it sounds like something alf garnet would say in the 70s
By:
Roger De Bris
When: 23 Apr 15 21:49
If it tastes nice it's full of sugar.
Sugar has approx. 56 different names as well.
Agave, Fruit juice concentrate, maple syrup etc. ALL sugar. If it's sweet it's sugar.
Sugar is the devil.
By:
Just Checking
When: 23 Apr 15 22:12
"If it tastes nice it's full of sugar."
I don't like sweet things and and like the taste of lots of food.
Including porridge, with no sugar!
By:
hearts1874
When: 24 Apr 15 01:23
porridge with a sliced banana , drizzled with honey.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 24 Apr 15 07:19
Just had two more bowls, just re checked the ingredients and the number 2 ingredient is sugar.  and all the fruit is dried AND sweetened.  I will just finish this packet and be done with it but it is a shame that a lot of people might be eating this rubbish/feeding it to their kids genuinely thinking it is good stuff.  it is simple and tasty though.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 24 Apr 15 09:32
Cheap oats are like powder.  I would imagine are the leftovers when they take the decent oats out to use for decent porridge.  Overcooked, it ends up like a mushy gruel.

I undercook jumbo oats if I can get them (Holland and Barrett used to do Neal's Yard).  Or Scotts.

Can't see the point in saving a few pence on an already very cheap product.
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 24 Apr 15 09:34
Haven't seen Neals Yard in my shop lately but available here…

http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/shop/product/neals-yard-wholefoods-100-organic-jumbo-oats-60039796

read the reviews!
By:
Jack Hacksaw
When: 24 Apr 15 09:40
Free delivery today!

£1.99 for 1 kg.

Just ordered 2 for £3.98 delivered!
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