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kenny mann
19 Apr 15 18:58
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Darcy Oake, the illusionist earlier on ITV

Takes his wallet and places it on a table which is in full view of the audience of several hundred at the Winter Gardens, Blackpool.

Fires 8 plastic torpedo shaped missiles from a gun, into various parts of the audience.  You can see many hands reaching out to catch each missile after it's been fired.

Then he asks each member of the audience who caught a  missile, to call out a double digit number. 

So the numbers called out are in order, 34 27 13 67 11 24 66 50

Then he asks the host of the show, Christine Bleakley (seems to be on everything) to walk over to the wallet which has not been touched, and take out his credit card and read out the number.

Of course the 16 digit card number matches exactly the numbers called out by the audience.

He would have needed about 100 plants in the audience I reckon.
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Report Pokermonster April 19, 2015 7:06 PM BST
One can often apply the law of parsimony to feats of this nature, Kenny.  If he required one hundred shills in the audience to perform the trick, then that's probably what he had.
Report kenny mann April 19, 2015 7:07 PM BST
Yes indeed, Poker'. Can't think of any other explanation.
Report MisterBadger April 19, 2015 7:08 PM BST
ffs kenny, it was magic... DER
Report kenny mann April 19, 2015 7:09 PM BST
But he'd have to be accurate with his missile shooting otherwise the tricks fooked.
Report Barry Conway April 19, 2015 7:18 PM BST
As it begins with a 3 we all know it's an Amex card which only has 15 digits. If he can't even be bothered to get this right he is clearly a charlatan. Throw him in jail.
Report Pokermonster April 19, 2015 7:22 PM BST
My guess would be that he is extremely accurate with his toy gun, and he has plenty of plants in the audience.
Report kenny mann April 19, 2015 7:25 PM BST
Yes, can't really be any other answer.
Report Dr Crippen April 19, 2015 7:26 PM BST
I'd say they quickly printed the credit card after he'd called out the numbers.

That's were the illusion would have occurred, getting card into the wallet on the table.
Report kenny mann April 19, 2015 7:27 PM BST
Barry, just checked the number and card from the recording.

HSBC Visa
Report Dr Crippen April 19, 2015 7:28 PM BST
They probably they changed the wallet as well to make it easier.
Report Pokermonster April 19, 2015 7:28 PM BST
I perform a trick in my pool exhibitions whereby fifty-two playing cards are scattered face up on the bed of the table.  A second (unopened) deck is then placed on the rail.  I ask a random member of the audience to strike the cueball around the table at a speed of their choosing and we wait to see where it comes to rest.  Whichever card the white stops closest to is deemed to be the punter's chosen card.  If the ball goes in a pocket then it's the card closest to that pocket.  I then open the sealed deck to reveal one card is turned upside down.  Both cards are a match.

How is it done?
Report kenny mann April 19, 2015 7:29 PM BST
Good thinking Dr. But the wallet wasn,t touched till Christine took the card out.
Report kenny mann April 19, 2015 7:31 PM BST
Good one for me to have a ponder over a few beers Poker'.
Report Dr Crippen April 19, 2015 7:33 PM BST
That's were the trickery occurred Kenny, it didn't appear to be touched.
Report kenny mann April 19, 2015 7:37 PM BST
Yes Dr, the TV audience didn't see it not being touched, but the audience would have. Clever stuff.
Report wit-ham April 19, 2015 7:39 PM BST
maybe the missiles had numbers on them
Report wit-ham April 19, 2015 7:40 PM BST
was one of the numbers a reversed 43 by anychance
Report blackbarn April 19, 2015 7:40 PM BST
As Barry says 34 (and 37 for that matter) is only Amex.  Can't possibly have a genuine card from another issuer company with numbers beginning with those two digits. Hth.
Report kenny mann April 19, 2015 7:41 PM BST
34 27 13 67 11 24 66 50
Report kenny mann April 19, 2015 7:43 PM BST
Ah, blackbarn. So it's not plants. The card's been tampered with as Dr originally suggested?
Report wit-ham April 19, 2015 7:43 PM BST
ah thought soCrazy
Report Makybe_Diva April 19, 2015 7:44 PM BST
I'm waiting to find out how Pokermonster's trick is done Confused
Report Pokermonster April 19, 2015 7:45 PM BST
There are some amazing gizmos available nowadays.  I wouldn't be surprised if one could purchase some sort of mechanised card that presents any number one likes via remote control.
Report kenny mann April 19, 2015 7:46 PM BST
Come on Makybe, a bit of lateral thinking required, maybe?
Report Pokermonster April 19, 2015 7:46 PM BST
I will reveal the secret, Ms Diva, but I'll give everyone a few hours to have a punt first and look back in later.

Good evening to you all.
Report Makybe_Diva April 19, 2015 7:49 PM BST
A few hours?! I will be in bed by then.

I will look in tomorrow Happy
Report wit-ham April 19, 2015 7:50 PM BST
do you play county pool Pokermonster?
Report kenny mann April 19, 2015 7:51 PM BST
Going to take a photo of that question. My mate at the pub is good at this stuff.
Report s.kenbo April 19, 2015 7:54 PM BST
I'm intrigued by it PM.
Report wit-ham April 19, 2015 7:55 PM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UwFBM6nz34
Report Makybe_Diva April 19, 2015 8:06 PM BST
Shocked
Report scandanavian_haven April 19, 2015 8:10 PM BST
I remember seeing a trick on tv but had no idea how it was done, just looked for the youtube video and found it after a fashion, says channel 5 have blocked it in my country on copyright grounds, if anyone can view it have a guess, at least I think this is the video/trick as I can't view itAngry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu4PLlgzvPk
Report STUDYFORM April 19, 2015 8:19 PM BST
My guess is that it's a pack of nearly 52 of the same card. Maybe one or 2 spares which are 'known' by the magician, which are different.
Report Makybe_Diva April 19, 2015 8:19 PM BST
Blocked here also, SH.
Report trebor April 19, 2015 9:40 PM BST
Pokermonster  Invisible  Deck.
Report trebor April 20, 2015 12:11 AM BST
I do not know how the trick is done that Kenny asks about, I do know that it is nothing to do with any plant in the audience tho, it will be something to do with the wallet or the table the wallet is placed upon would be my guess.

Have you ever seen the trick where there is a metal box in full view of the audience for the whole show, Derron Brown for example has the box suspended 25 feet above the stage until he brings it down just before ending the show, a small table is brought on stage and the box gets lowered onto the table, a volunteer from the audience is brought up to open the box, there is a cylinder inside, open the cylinder and there is a scroll inside, the audience member holds one end of the scroll and Derron Brown walks across the stage revealing  what is written on the scroll, it is facts about what has happened on the show that night, things that could not possibly have been known before the show.

The box has been empty the whole show, backstage during the show someone writes on the scroll what is happening during the show, this scroll gets placed inside the cylinder, this cylinder gets placed inside a hidden compartment in the table that was taken on stage upon which the box is placed, placing the box on the table gets the cylinder inside the box through the fake bottom of the box.
Report spellingandgrammarchecker April 20, 2015 1:29 PM BST
PM

I also enjoy a bit of magic sir, here's one for you, a Victorian masterpiece.

A magician comes on stage carrying a circular tripod table, which he places at the front of the stage in full view of the audience.   

He invites two men from the audience to come up on stage.

A stage hand pushes out a flat barrow with a statue of a dog on it, with two chains attached for lifting purposes. 

The two audience members are told to lift the dog on to the table, and remove the chains.

They do so with a bit of effort, and then one of them is asked to place a bell jar over the top of the statue.

The bell jar is covered with a cloth, and the magician proceeds to do a few other magic tricks.

After 15 minutes or so, he invites a woman from the audience to come and lift the cover from the bell jar. The audience applaud, and  as the magician lifts the bell jar, it can be seen that the statue of the dog has completely vanished.

How was it done?

Note:
I posted this on here a good few years ago, but nobody had the answer.
Today, there may be somebody lurking who remembers it.
Report trebor April 20, 2015 2:44 PM BST
I don't know how that is done, at a guess I would say the dog is actually still inside the bell jar? bit like when they make the elephant or a tank disappear.

I could make a coin disappear from under a bell jar but I guess that's not so impressive Sad
Report Crisp77 April 20, 2015 2:46 PM BST
If his gun wouldn't have jammed we would have got his cvv and expiry date Sad
Report spellingandgrammarchecker April 20, 2015 2:58 PM BST
trebor   
20 Apr 15 14:44 
I don't know how that is done, at a guess I would say the dog is actually still inside the bell jar? bit like when they make the elephant or a tank disappear.


Nope.
It's definitely vanished. 

Clue:
It took two men to lift the statue of the dog on to the table.
The magician couldn't lift the bell jar, with the dog inside it, on his own.
Report naydam April 20, 2015 4:06 PM BST
Is it do0wn to what the statue was actually made of? For example...salt?
Report Foinavon April 20, 2015 4:24 PM BST
Was it made of dry ice?
Report spellingandgrammarchecker April 20, 2015 5:45 PM BST
Naydam, yes, but it wasn't salt.

Foinavon - no.
Report bix April 20, 2015 5:52 PM BST
or ice?
Report Stow_judge April 20, 2015 5:59 PM BST
https://www.facebook.com/graduate.fasttrack/videos/vb.140809269311626/720618...
Report naydam April 20, 2015 6:00 PM BST
Was the statue actually heavy...or were the two lifters part of the act?
Report Capt__F April 20, 2015 6:42 PM BST
gay trick then
Report Foinavon April 20, 2015 6:44 PM BST
A rubber balloon?
Report spellingandgrammarchecker April 20, 2015 6:51 PM BST
The two men who lifted it were not stooges, it was heavy.
Report s.kenbo April 20, 2015 7:22 PM BST
Let's hear how it was done then SaG. And Pokermonsters.
Report wit-ham April 20, 2015 7:26 PM BST
maybe acid on/in the jar
Report man of many moods April 20, 2015 7:31 PM BST
Frozen mercury
Report wit-ham April 20, 2015 7:33 PM BST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9UMvfKBaZI

still absolutely brilliant
Report spellingandgrammarchecker April 20, 2015 7:46 PM BST
Our man in Cyprus is correct. Happy

The tripod table that the magician carries on at the start has hollow legs.

The top is not level, it has a very slight incline to the centre, where a small hole is drilled.

It's placed at the front of the stage and the statue must be covered a.s.a.p as the stage lights soon heat it up.

It melts and runs away down the hole into the legs while he performs a few other tricks. 

These days it would cost a fortune at scrap prices for mercury, apart from the fact that contact with it wouldn't be allowed under Health & Safety rules, as it's possible it can be absorbed through the skin, and once in the bloodstream, it can cause brain damage.
Report man of many moods April 20, 2015 7:56 PM BST
I thought it might be that. I remember it cropped up in an episode of Jonathan Creek Happy
Report trebor April 20, 2015 9:04 PM BST
Think pokermonsters forgot us. if you want to see how his trick is done google "The invisible deck"
Report kincsem April 20, 2015 11:11 PM BST
Was someone standing on the stage behind the magician with flip cards showing the numbers, like in the Bob Dylan song, or like Mrs Doyle in Father Ted "go on", "go on", "go on"?
Report Pokermonster April 21, 2015 12:11 AM BST
My sincere apologies, Trebor (and everyone else).  I hadn't forgotten, though, I was endeavouring to explain the trick using an excerpt from my book of pool tricks, but I'm having a devil of a time getting the images to upload.
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