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16 Apr 15
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The CPS will later announce whether Labour peer Lord Janner will be charged with child sexual abuse offences.
The Times is reporting the prosecution will not go ahead because the CPS has decided it would not be in the public interest.
The peer, a Labour MP for Leicester for 27 years, is 86 and is said to be in ill health.
Leicestershire Police has been investigating abuse allegations against Lord Janner dating back to the mid-1970s.
His house was searched in December 2013 and his Westminster office last June.
In 1991, Lord Janner made statements in Parliament asserting his innocence after a man claimed he had abused him.
The claims were made during the trial of care home manager Frank Beck for child abuse.
In recent years, new allegations surfaced and Leicestershire Police began a long investigation.
Police have gathered potential evidence from at least 30 people and the CPS had begun warning them of the coming decision about whether he should be charged.
This has become rather controversial because last year a former detective sergeant told a national newspaper that in 1989 he was ordered not to arrest Greville Janner and not to search his home.
That former Leicestershire Police detective is Mick Creedon, now chief constable of Derbyshire Police.
Last month the Independent Police Complaints Commission told Leicestershire Police to begin a review into that earlier investigation.
The Times is reporting the prosecution will not go ahead because the CPS has decided it would not be in the public interest.
The peer, a Labour MP for Leicester for 27 years, is 86 and is said to be in ill health.
Leicestershire Police has been investigating abuse allegations against Lord Janner dating back to the mid-1970s.
His house was searched in December 2013 and his Westminster office last June.
In 1991, Lord Janner made statements in Parliament asserting his innocence after a man claimed he had abused him.
The claims were made during the trial of care home manager Frank Beck for child abuse.
In recent years, new allegations surfaced and Leicestershire Police began a long investigation.
Police have gathered potential evidence from at least 30 people and the CPS had begun warning them of the coming decision about whether he should be charged.
This has become rather controversial because last year a former detective sergeant told a national newspaper that in 1989 he was ordered not to arrest Greville Janner and not to search his home.
That former Leicestershire Police detective is Mick Creedon, now chief constable of Derbyshire Police.
Last month the Independent Police Complaints Commission told Leicestershire Police to begin a review into that earlier investigation.
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yep the child rapist gets off the hook.
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move along now nothing to see here
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Tbh I'd be happy if they concentrated on kids being abused now not decades ago. Industrial-scale rape of underage girls in Rotherham and other towns is going on now.
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Not in the public interest?
Incredible! Certainly not in someone's interest. In fact not in the interest of anyone else he might take down with him. |
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As Sir Humphrey once said, the official secrets act doesn't protect secrets. It protects officials.
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I agree with that ^^^
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even though he has 'advanced dementia' I would guess he's still eligible to vote in the Lords?
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Ernest Saunders anyone? People in high places will always get looked after, the whole system is corrupt.
A DTI report described him as a man who did "unjustifiable favours for friends and himself".[2] Saunders appealed against his sentence of five years in prison, and on 16 May 1991, the sentence was reduced to two and a half years. Lord Justice Neill said that he was satisfied that Saunders was suffering from pre-senile dementia associated with Alzheimer's disease, which is incurable.[1] Because of his apparent illness, Saunders was released from Ford Open Prison on 28 June 1991 having served only ten months of his sentence. (He would normally have been expected to served 15 months of the 30-month sentence). After his release, he recovered from the symptoms which had led to the diagnosis.[2] Since then, Saunders has worked as a business consultant, including advising mobile phone retailer Carphone Warehouse from its early days until prior to its flotation. Charles Dunstone, the Chief Executive of Carphone Warehouse, said: "We were young guys who didn’t know what we were doing. He made us think about the questions we ought to ask or the information we ought to look at." He was later appointed chairman of the executive committee of a US-based multinational petrol credit-card company, Harpur-Gelco. Saunders also acted as a consultant to Seed International Ltd, a company based in the Cayman Islands. Seed offered investments in a variety of fields including wine, property, oil and gas exploration through Ocean International Marketing, their sales subsidiary with offices in Rotterdam. Wiki |
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There you go!
A couple of non-executive directorships are now an official cure for senile dementia! |
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we are afloat in a sea of self-serving khoonts
Akabula hit the nail on the head Not in the interest of the people connected to him |
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the uk is corrupt.
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Ireland is praetorian
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Can't the victims mount a private prosecution?
The State is again looking after its own. |
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not sure what you can with an 86 yr old who cant even speak, has dementia and doesn't know what day it is...hang him from his bollocks??? by the way he has denied this all along. Not making excuses for him ,just stating the facts
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Pandora, of they left idiots alone, you could go out, commit murder, and get away with it.
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Should it not be for the defence to make a case for him not being able to stand trial?
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pandora would be singing a different tune if it was a tory peer
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A person's health should not determine whether or not a case should be tried, the punishment if found guilty is a different matter. Victims deserve some sort of justice to be served, and a trial and verdict is the very least they might expect.
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How are you doing Burt?
Drop me a line via Jas on Facebook if you feel like it. |
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we're getting there m8 the new pup is running us ragged and keeping our minds off things.
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If he's too ill to attend then the case should be heard in his absence.
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He's old and past his sell by date, be quicker to shoot him.
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Who, Burt? That's a bit harsh, sir!
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"A person's health should not determine whether or not a case should be tried"
How can he answer questions if he can't speak ? How can he understand questions if he doesn't know what day it is ? |
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If he can't attend, Artie, the case should be heard in his absence.
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I'm guessing the CPS think his evidence, if he is capable of giving any, would be unreliable, if not inadmissable, due to his dementia and therefore any conviction might be unsafe? I'm speculating of course as I have no idea of how advanced his dementia is.
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Nor have I, Mr B, but I believe that the case should be heard whether he is able to attend or not. The level of punishment, of course, would be an entirely different matter.
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I sort of agree PM, but I think artie makes a good point - if he was prosecuted he would be entitled to a defence, but if he has no idea what is going on, how could he mount one? And again, I have no idea as to the severity of his condition.
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"If he can't attend, Artie, the case should be heard in his absence." How would he present his defence, by telepathy ?
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He would be defended in his absence, the onus would still be on the prosecution to convince a jury that whatever allegations levelled against him are beyond doubt. That could be difficult, being absent might well turn out to be advantageous in a case of this nature.
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Regardless of his innocence or guilt, his family should button it.
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Acording to a Glasgow journalist in Leicester for the Frank Beck trial, many of the journalists after the case believed Janner should have faced a trial.
The guy said it may take a decade but we will be back, imagine how these journalists felt on reading Mick Creedon`s interview some years ago. |
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HH Sultan Vinegar 16 Apr 15 13:42
even though he has 'advanced dementia' I would guess he's still eligible to vote in the Lords? In actual fact it's a requirement. |
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Pokermonster 16 Apr 15 17:01
A person's health should not determine whether or not a case should be tried, the punishment if found guilty is a different matter. Victims deserve some sort of justice to be served, and a trial and verdict is the very least they might expect. Spot on. |
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not prosecuted because he's demented ? of course he demented, he's a friggin' pederast
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he's a friggin' pederast
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Things going as planned ...rounding up the dead, Leon Brittain and Cyril Smith and the too sick to stand trial.
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^ very informative !
Didn't know this. pederast (plural pederasts) A man who is engaged in an erotic relationship with an adolescent boy; a practitioner of pederasty. Usage notesEdit The term pederast has sometimes been incorrectly used to describe men sexually involved with pre-pubescent girls, or child-rapists who don't have any ongoing relationship with the child. For an adult fixated on only sexual involvement with prepubescent children, or for heterosexual child-eroticism, pedophile is used instead. |
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