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By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 08 Apr 15 20:29
Has the pink panther been interviewed?

Devil
By:
spellingandgrammarchecker
When: 08 Apr 15 21:14
Calling canaryboy...
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 08 Apr 15 23:42
..." its like something out of a film " said mr bean.......GrinGrinGrin
By:
naydam
When: 09 Apr 15 00:17
You'd think that they would learn. It's not the first time that the long Easter break has been put to good use!
By:
pumphol.
When: 09 Apr 15 00:25
One bloke being interviewed outside was a bloke called  Gerry Landon, I used to play in a football team with him nearly 30 years ago, chances are most have not had their deposit boxes touched, their are hundreds in that place I doubt they opened more than 25% of them.
By:
Capt__F
When: 09 Apr 15 00:28
pump

they don't touch their own
By:
brendanuk1
When: 09 Apr 15 00:39
even old warehouses have real guards. Cant believe this lot just lock up and go home for 3 days
By:
Ramruma
When: 09 Apr 15 07:59
They had a security guard who heard the alarm, peered through the window, and decided he did not get paid enough to risk going inside.

Which is fair enough but apparently he also did not get paid enough to call the police.
By:
Facts
When: 09 Apr 15 09:03
People who need safety deposit boxes have something to hide. Hence no insurance cover. Now they've lost it all. Oh dear, what a shame !
By:
pumphol.
When: 09 Apr 15 10:36
I think a lot of the businesses in Hatton Garden would use this place for supposed safety & convenience & though some of those interviewed said they had no insurance I would reckon that is not the case with a large percentage of box holders, if this was an inside job I suspect the people involved may well have known which boxes to empty out rather than using pot luck.
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 09 Apr 15 16:44
A burglar alarm briefly sounded on Good Friday but it was claimed that police who attended the scene did not fully investigate after noticing nothing amiss.

The sound of drilling and metal sawing could also have been ignored by local traders and residents because they assumed that it was tunnelling work for Crossrail, which had sent letters warning about tunnelling and demolition works while a new ticketing hall at Farringdon station, a few hundred yards away, was being built.


sailing very close to the wind.
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 09 Apr 15 16:48

Apr 8, 2015 -- 11:59AM, Clouseau wrote:


Holburn fire got something to do with it (nap)


good call according to senior police sources.

By:
TheBetterBettor
When: 09 Apr 15 18:54
no one cares...

its not like old skool way that you watch in 70s/80s movies...


Now its more like Oceans 12 (and that movie sucked), bankrolled by people who are already millionairs.
By:
maleuk01.
When: 09 Apr 15 20:11
can you imagine how many stolen jewels have just been robbed again in that heist.
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 09 Apr 15 20:41
One bloke being interviewed outside was a bloke called  Gerry Landon

He was obviously the Brains , the Security guard got a cheap Bung , whilst Vinnie Jones & Noel Edmonds went to Work Cool
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 09 Apr 15 20:48
I don't think I'd ever put anything valuable, in a location with a virtual sign over it saying "loot".

Where there's a will there's often a way.
By:
bodil
When: 09 Apr 15 23:03
There seems to be some interest in the 2 Sudanese directors of the SD Co.
By:
Just Checking
When: 09 Apr 15 23:21
Facts 09 Apr 15 09:03 
People who need safety deposit boxes have something to hide. Hence no insurance cover. Now they've lost it all. Oh dear, what a shame !
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An stupid post even for chit chat.

The security does seem incredibly lax, how hard is it to install a few CCTVs these days in a place full of high value stuff? Also any alarm that's not from poundland will be zoned so any callout should tell you exactly where it's been triggered, you'd think any procedure would be to check the triggered zone not give the door a kick.

The place seems to have been run by a bunch of t*ts..
By:
FlowerMyth
When: 10 Apr 15 00:06
There was CCTV but they knicked the hard drive from it, didn't they?

Anyway, they'll have to catch them all soon or it's going to be very hard to cast the film when no one knows what they look or sound like.
By:
Just Checking
When: 10 Apr 15 00:11
I mean live CCTV. It's a very cheap technology these days.
And if the CCTV is only stored right there (and not uploaded to a secondary location), why not have a case open / interference alarm on it?  It just all sounds done on the cheap with old technology, and not very well done at that .
By:
FlowerMyth
When: 10 Apr 15 00:32
Yes it does sound like it was all veneer and underneath a dodgy set of circumstances waiting to be exploited.
By:
bodil
When: 10 Apr 15 00:52
For a period in my life I used to have a safe-deposit box in Knightsbridge, but when the annual fees exceeded the value of the contents I shut up shop.  I believe it was subsequently robbed.  Glad to think I saved the perps the trauma of opening my box.  I know from bitter experience that disappointment is hard to handle.
By:
sidthekid
When: 10 Apr 15 15:17
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bank_Job

The Bank Job is a 2008 British crime film written by Dick Clement and Ian La Frenais, directed by Roger Donaldson, and starring Jason Statham,
based on the 1971 Baker Street robbery in central London, from which the money and valuables stolen were never recovered.
The producers allege that the story was prevented from being told in 1971 because of a D-Notice government gagging request, allegedly to protect a prominent member of the British Royal Family.
According to the producers, this movie is intended to reveal the truth for the first time.
By:
sidthekid
When: 10 Apr 15 15:21
In 2008 police raided three safe deposit box centres in London as part of an investigation into claims that criminal networks were using them to store the proceeds of crime.
Inside 3,497 boxes, officers found more than £50m in cash as well as five handguns, cannabis, heroin and crack, gold bars, child abuse images, three paintings by 17th Century Dutch artists, jewellery and fake passports.
By:
scandanavian_haven
When: 10 Apr 15 20:49
I was there today, clearly an inside job, I would say the previous false alarms at the building which resulted in the police not bothering to deal with this alarm, were infact part of the plot. Next to no public appeal for witnesses etc, which tells you they all ready know who they're after.
By:
Just Checking
When: 10 Apr 15 21:08
Everyone knows the tale of the alarm who cried drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
By:
G1_Jockey_4
When: 11 Apr 15 10:21
someone in the police must have known the company was on the alarm list to ignore.

otherwise the plan falls down on that alone.
By:
naydam
When: 11 Apr 15 11:13
Aye, its not like anybody has ever broken into a bank vault over the Easter weekend! Oh! Hang on a minute, let me think on that! LaughLaugh
By:
wit-ham
When: 11 Apr 15 11:21
Hatton garden jewellery heist

Conservatives now able to fund the health service to the tune of 8 billion

coincidence?
By:
sidthekid
When: 11 Apr 15 13:09
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2679046/No-cops-robbers-Flying-Squad-numbers-cut-thieves-old-school-bank-robberies-turn-high-tech-cyber-crime-instead.html

No more cops and robbers?
Flying Squad numbers cut as thieves give up old-school bank robberies and turn to high-tech cyber-crime instead
Metropolitan Police cuts almost 50 Flying Squad officers in a single year
Armed crime unit now has 112 officers and has lost two of its bases
The unit was made famous by the 1970s police drama The Sweeney
Bank robberies have fallen from 847 a year in 1992 to just 108 in 2012
Now criminals prefer sophisticated raids on using computer technology
Card fraud is also on the rise, with £450million stolen from victims in 2013
By:
mad mad moon
When: 11 Apr 15 22:00
Bank alarms need to be bought into the 21st century.
Should be accompanied by instant texts sent to the local police station "Our security guard has been racially abused"
Guaranteed police presence within 5 minutes.
By:
desperatemunter
When: 12 Apr 15 12:45
now we learn that the theives went away overnight and came back the next day to finish the job.
By:
desperatemunter
When: 12 Apr 15 12:46
proper british workers.  i don't work nights unless it's clear I'm getting a night-premium either
By:
tictacman1
When: 12 Apr 15 15:27
Police said 72 of the 999 safety deposit boxes were opened. Of those, seven were empty. Police have so far contacted 42 owners and are trying to reach the remaining victims.

Police in France are also investigating whether the gang is behind a £6.4 million gems heist involving two security lorries last month.



How the heist unfolded

20.19, Thursday, April 2 Staff at Hatton Garden Safe Deposit Ltd, which provides “secure” storage for their clients’ “irreplaceable personal belongings”, lock up for the Easter weekend. The company, normally opens Monday to Friday, is not due to reopen until Tuesday morning because of the bank holiday. Hatton Garden, in which many Jewish-run diamond jewellers operate, is especially quiet because Easter coincides with the Jewish festival of Passover

20.23 Four minutes later, the gang moves in. CCTV footage, made public yesterday, shows the first gang member arriving at a rear fire-exit door, reached through a narrow alley. Police later confirm there was no sign of forced entry. Dubbed Mr Ginger because of his red hair, seen beneath a black cap, the man wears latex gloves, a blue jacket and dark trousers. He is carrying a black bin bag

20.27 A second CCTV camera captures a white Ford Transit van driving down Greville Street, around the corner from the front entrance to Hatton Garden Safe Deposit Ltd. It pulls up at the entrance to the side alley that offers access to a rear fire exit door into the communal building housing the safe deposit boxes. Men drag wheelie bins down the alley before the van leaves

20.30 A second gang member, nicknamed the Gent because of his smart brown shoes, arrives carrying a large holdall. He has on a balaclava, a hard hat and a high-visibility jacket

20.31 The gang member dubbed Mr Strong appears at the back door. He has steel supports and wears a hard hat. The supports may serve to hold in place the diamond-tipped drill used to break into the vault. Mr Strong and the Gent then carry more tools into the building

20.36 A fourth man appears. Wearing a black sweatshirt bearing the words “Montana 93”, the man – Mr Montana – enters the building. He and Mr Strong drag in wheelie bins. One is thought to contain the 77lb drill used to bore through a 7ft reinforced concrete wall giving access to the basement vaults

00.21, Friday April 3 An intruder alarm is set off at Hatton Garden Safe Deposit Ltd. The Southern Monitoring Alarm Company contacts the Metropolitan Police’s Central Communications Command. Police record the call but decide no response is needed – a decision now being internally investigated

01.00 Mr Ginger is seen by the back door. There is no more movement above ground for almost seven hours. Inside the building, the gang disable the lift, leaving it on the second floor. They use the lift shaft to reach the basement, where the safe deposit boxes are held. They force open shutter doors into the company’s offices and bore holes into the vault wall using a Hilti DD350 drill

07.51 The gang resurface after a night inside the premises. Mr Ginger leaves with two purple holdalls. Mr Montana carries out two red tool boxes. Footage shows him with a shaved head and possibly an earring. A minute later, the Gent briefly appears with a red monkey wrench and bolt cutters

08.02 The Gent emerges again with a black bucket of tools. Mr Montana and Mr Strong come up and put the tools in a bag

08.05 CCTV gives a first glimpse of the Old Man, a grey-haired gang member, who emerges from the side door



08.12 The white transit van pulls up in the alley. The gang load it with tools and drive off. Saturday is a normal working day and the streets around Hatton Garden will be busier than on Good Friday and Easter Sunday. The gang are not seen again on CCTV for 38 hours

22.17, Saturday April 4

Mr Ginger is back, again wearing latex gloves and carrying a black bin bag

22.32 CCTV captures a first glimpse of the Tall Man. He wears a flat cap and carries a blue Nike bag and a red tool box. The Old Man joins him. No other gang members are seen and for the next seven hours the gang drill through the vault walls, forcing open up to 70 safe deposit boxes

05.46, Sunday April 5 The Tall Man, wearing an adidas top, emerges from the fire exit door carrying two red tools



06.01 Mr Ginger, the Tall Man and the Old Man drag a wheelie bin outside. It is a struggle and the Old Man looks out of breath

06.10 They reappear with another wheelie bin. The Tall Man makes four more trips in and out the fire exit with bags

06.12 A moped pulls up on Greville Street. Moped Man walks down the alley, returns 20 minutes later and drives off

06.41 The white van returns at the alley entrance and the gang start loading wheelie bins into it. Three men get into the white van, which then drives off. The heist is complete

08.10, Tuesday April 7 A full 48 hours after the gang have fled, police are called to the company, following a report of a burglary. They find a “chaotic” scene. The vault is covered in debris and the floor “strewn with discarded safe deposit boxes and numerous power tools, including an angle grinder, concrete drills and crowbars”. It is thought the mob left with goods, likely to include jewels, cash and other items, worth more than £60  million
By:
desperatemunter
When: 12 Apr 15 15:39
good post.  ty.  hadn't read that .
By:
desperatemunter
When: 12 Apr 15 15:41
they worked a bank Holiday - everyone should get a little extra for that.  It's only right.
By:
BARROWBOY
When: 12 Apr 15 15:48
sound like they may have stolen from the wrong type of people,maybe trouble for the robbers.
By:
desperatemunter
When: 12 Apr 15 15:48
that post above is classic.  The Gent.  The Tall Man.   Mr Strong.   pmsl.
By:
desperatemunter
When: 12 Apr 15 15:49
there is no wrong type of people when your a thief.
By:
desperatemunter
When: 12 Apr 15 15:50
these people will be able to look after themselves barrowboy - and they will be intensely aware of who and what kind of people they have stolen from.
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