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Anti-UKIP protesters have invaded a pub where Nigel Farage was having a family lunch and chased him out.

The party leader was apparently with his wife and two of his children at the Queen's Head in Downe, Kent, where the incident took place.

Dozens of protesters first went to the George & Dragon, where Mr Farage has previously been pictured having a drink, before realising he was not there.

The demonstrators are said to have moved into the Queen's Head, chased the Farage family out and jumped on Mr Farage's car bonnet as he left.

He said afterwards: "I hope these 'demonstrators' are proud of themselves.

"My children were so scared by their behaviour that they ran away to hide.

"At the time of writing this a relative has gone to look for them, and they are not yet at home.

"These people are scum."

Protesters disrupted Mr Farage at the Queen's Head in Downe, Kent

Mr Farage's children with his second wife, Kirsten, are Victoria and Isabelle, who are understood to be aged 15 and 10 respectively.

Staff at the pub refused to comment, while the George & Dragon said the protesters had at first claimed they were there for a birthday party.

Dan Glass from Stand Up To UKIP, who organised the protest, said the group was in fancy dress and included migrants, HIV activists, gay people, disabled people and breastfeeding mums.

Mr Glass told Sky News the UKIP leader came out of the pub and called the protesters "sad and lonely".

Around 100 people were there singing We Are Family and dancing a conga line through the village, he added.

Mr Farage pushed through the crowd to get into his car, and was chased down the road.

Some demonstrators jumped onto the bonnet of his car.

His children are now understood to have been found and returned home.

However, responding to reports Mr Farage's children had fled, Mr Glass said: "He was sitting on his own and left on his own.

"We didn't see any kids".

UKIP is believed to have asked for taxpayer-funded security for Mr Farage during the General Election campaign, amid fears he could be regularly targeted by protesters.
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Report ebulGery March 23, 2015 8:57 AM GMT
It is amazing how we allow these people to bully our politicians at times

Still Mr Farage is a politician he has to learn to handle this sort of thing politically so to speak
Report screaming from beneaththewaves March 23, 2015 10:15 AM GMT
Hope they got this on video. Would love to see it speeded up, with Yakety Sax in the background.
Report polybot March 23, 2015 10:25 AM GMT
on the subject of gay lynch mobs, if hitler were alive today would he be less angry and frustrated now he could comfortably come out of the closet and still pursue a political career, or would he be equally angry about stuff like there not being enough trans-sexual toilets etc.
Report alun2005 March 23, 2015 11:25 AM GMT
Any arrests yet?
Report Sica Dan March 23, 2015 11:34 AM GMT
The Police are no doubt considering charging Mr Farage with causing an affray.
Report ebulGery March 23, 2015 2:18 PM GMT
Hitler was gay PolybotShocked

So it cost 55 million lives keeping him in the closet...I shall have to reconsider my views on gays
Report screaming from beneaththewaves March 23, 2015 3:22 PM GMT
ST. PETERSBURG, Russia — A motley crew of representatives of fringe right-wing political organizations in Europe and the United States used a conference here on Sunday to denounce what they called the degradation of white, Christian traditions in the West. Their hosts used the conference to advance Russia’s effort to lure political allies of any stripe.

Railing against same-sex marriage, immigration, New York financiers, radical Islam and globalization, among other targets, one speaker after another lauded Russia and President Vladimir V. Putin as a pillar of robust, conservative, even manly values.

Jim Dowson, a British nationalist, flashed a picture on an overhead screen of Mr. Putin shirtless riding a bear. “Obama and America, they are like females. They are feminized men,” he said. “But you have been blessed by a man who is a man, and we envy that.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/23/world/europe/right-wing-groups-find-a-haven-for-a-day-in-russia.html?_r=0

If only the likes of Hitler, Putin and Dowson could just admit their desires for other men.
Report pandora1963 March 23, 2015 3:33 PM GMT
shame nbody caught up with farage and beat the little s hit to pieces
Report TambourineMan. March 23, 2015 3:47 PM GMT
shame nbody caught up with farage and beat the little s hit to pieces

Take a Cyber Left hook you moron.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves March 23, 2015 4:03 PM GMT
It was also in 2013 that Nigel Farage met Russia’s London Ambassador, Alexander Yakovenko. Two years before, Russia successfully boasted that its controversial  elections had been monitored by a British MEP. It was less vocal that the identity of the MEP was BNP leader Nick Griffin.

Since then, six Ukip’s MEPs have made appearances on Russia Today, with Farage making almost monthly appearances on the state sponsored news channel.

As with the other right wing parties courted by Moscow, Farage has publicly defended Putin’s Ukraine stance, and has declared the Russian premier the world leader he most admired “as an operator”.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/479532/Nigel-Farage-is-another-of-Moscow-s-darlings-as-Putin-backs-Right

It would be better for everyone if Farage were regularly beaten up. He might then eventually get into his thick middle-aged skull what the policies of Putin, UKIP, BNP etc. mean in practice.
Report TambourineMan. March 23, 2015 4:25 PM GMT
^^^^^^^
Another Moron...

Churchill admired Stalin as a strategist...don't think he was ever
on his Christmas Card list.
Report Sica Dan March 23, 2015 5:22 PM GMT
The Democratic Govt of Ukraine was overthrown with the E.U.
cheering on the side lines. You would have thought that Merkel
and Co would have realised that Putin was not going to stand by and roll out
a red welcome carpet.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves March 23, 2015 5:45 PM GMT
The hopeless dwarf in the Kremlin has given Donetsk's equivalents of the Krays and the Richardsons tanks, artillery and guided missiles. They shoot down an airliner killing hundreds of Dutch, Britons, Americans etc. And Farage, the BNP and the unhappy middle-aged internet heroes who think Putin is on their side reckon life would be better if the world stood back and let him blunder on.

Everywhere Putin meddles he gets it disastrously wrong.

Annexed Abkhazia and S Ossetia and has had to subsidize the regions to the tune of $20,000-plus per citizen year. Not that the citizens see any of that, as the subsidies disappear into the hands of local officials, hence the need for perpetual and greater subsidy.

Annexed Crimea, over which Russia already had harbour rights guaranteed by international treaty. Crimea has no fresh water or electricity-generation of its own and relies on deliveries of coal and piped water from Ukraine. The region has become an even deeper money pit for Russia, with conditions on the ground desperate amid electricity blackouts.

Has invaded SE Ukraine and is facing anger from the families of all the Russian troops whose deaths there are not acknowledged. Has destroyed the infrastructure of the Donbas and turned it into a bottomless money pit for the future.

The customers for his gas are cheerfully seeking new supplies amid the world energy glut and he has invested precisely nothing in diversifying Russia's economy to prepare for this. His currency's trash, his crony corporations have lost access to the capital and western expertise they need to keep the gas and oil flowing. He's been reduced to signing a deal with China to sell gas at cost, but even then only if he can find $50 billion he no longer has to build the infrastructure.

Putin is an ignorant, blundering dupe who in a civilized country would never have risen above his former job of collecting cuttings from western newspapers as a clerk in the KGB. But to Farage and to the sad and the lonely thousands of miles away he's a master operator.
Report ebulGery March 23, 2015 7:20 PM GMT
I disagree

I agree with what you put up earlier

screaming from beneaththewaves  • March 23, 2015 3:22 PM GMT 


ST. PETERSBURG, Russia — A motley crew of representatives of fringe right-wing political organizations in Europe and the United States used a conference here on Sunday to denounce what they called the degradation of white, Christian traditions in the West. Their hosts used the conference to advance Russia’s effort to lure political allies of any stripe.

Railing against same-sex marriage, immigration, New York financiers, radical Islam and globalization, among other targets, one speaker after another lauded Russia and President Vladimir V. Putin as a pillar of robust, conservative, even manly values.

Jim Dowson, a British nationalist, flashed a picture on an overhead screen of Mr. Putin shirtless riding a bear. “Obama and America, they are like females. They are feminized men,” he said. “But you have been blessed by a man who is a man, and we envy that.”


But that is not the point we are supposed to live in a society of free speech, yet I see both immigrants and gays taking that away from us.

Nobody is allowed to say what they feel about these people. I do not regard this as healthy

I think immigrants have always bullied us, and now gays.


The majority of people in this country are not immigrants or gay, they also have a right to be heard, after all we are in the majority

and we are supposed to live in a democracy which is supposed to be rule by the majority
Report ebulGery March 23, 2015 7:49 PM GMT
I do not believe in violence against immigrants or gays, or blatant discrimination against immigrants or gays, as
long as it is discrimination.

But I believe in the right of people to say what they feel. This is being taken away from us. We allow minorities far too much power,
completely out of proportion to their numbers.
Our society as a whole suffers because of this.

I admire Putin as a leader yes
Report Marcce March 23, 2015 7:57 PM GMT
But I believe in the right of people to say what they feel. This is being taken away from us. We allow minorities far too much power,
completely out of proportion to their numbers.
Our society as a whole suffers because of this.

I admire Putin as a leader yes


He really did say this.
Report Eeternaloptimist March 23, 2015 8:15 PM GMT
It's good that the left wing dopes like pandora and screamingfromunderhispillow get to splash their fantasies on the web. Goodness knows what might happen if they didn't get it all out like this. And it does give us a clear indication of what they think should happen to politicians whom a third of the voters opted for at the recent european elections.
Report twizzle22 March 23, 2015 8:17 PM GMT
Well said Gery...spot on with that last post
Report akabula March 23, 2015 8:23 PM GMT
Getting back to the story hopefully the scum who attacked him and his family are identified.
Akin to some of the keypad warriors on here. Either brave in a pack or anonymity.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves March 23, 2015 8:41 PM GMT
How could anyone with any knowledge of the 20th century imagine that a supporter of a free Ukraine is a left-winger?
Report Just Checking March 23, 2015 8:44 PM GMT
It must be said, the mob shouting down and intimidating of people or speech they don't agree with, it seems to be pretty one sided and done by the left / far left.
Report bongo March 23, 2015 9:00 PM GMT
I do not believe in violence against immigrants or gays, or blatant discrimination against immigrants. . .

Yes you do ebulGery. You've previously said that legally resident tax-paying law abiding EU nationals should be denied the vote in the GE on 7th May. This means that the govt is less accountable to the people it serves and from whom it collects its taxes. It is pure xenophobia and discrimination against good decent people to hold this view.
Report ebulGery March 23, 2015 10:43 PM GMT
I do not regard anyone who comes to this country and pays a bit of tax as anything but an immigrant
I do not think that they have the same right as people who have lived here all their life, and their parents, parents
parents etc for many generations..they are our indigenous population

The only reason you think these immigrants should get the vote, is so they can vote in even more immigrants
We are being overwhelmed in our own country.Sad

I do not regard this view as either violent or discriminatory, or even racist, it is common sense.

People in our country have a democratic right to this  view without being intimidated by immigrants.

We are insane to allow thisCrazy
Report Capt__F March 23, 2015 10:47 PM GMT
well said Nige
Report akabula March 23, 2015 10:47 PM GMT
ebul not to allow any taxpayer the vote because they weren't born in this country is, by definition, discriminatory. Laugh
Report ebulGery March 23, 2015 10:51 PM GMT
Laugh Capt_F

not by my definition akabula
Report bongo March 23, 2015 11:09 PM GMT
The only reason you think these immigrants should get the vote, is so they can vote in even more immigrants

Utter garbage. I believe in good manners, fair play, support for the under-dog, tolerance. There was a survey which showed those are core british values, and if someone comes to Britain with those values and pays their taxes and obeys the laws, they should get a say.
You ebulGery believe they are not entitled to an opinion at the ballot box, and that linking someone to the indigenous population makes them more entitled to an opinion in some way. You want to take their taxes off them but for only the 'indigenous' decide how it's spent. That is unadulterated xenophobia, discrimination based purely on being an immigrant.
Report ebulGery March 23, 2015 11:19 PM GMT
The problem is if we are not at least part xenophobic...we won't have a country we can call our own soon

Still it is your democratic right to express your view as I have mine

I approve of argument...not physical intimidation...that is wrong
Report ebulGery March 23, 2015 11:25 PM GMT
There is also massive political intimidation

We live in a society where freedom of speech is coming under tremendous pressure from both government an media

Once we lose free speech, the loss of other freedoms soon follows
Report Dobbo March 23, 2015 11:37 PM GMT
Freedom of speech is being challenged by, well ,freedom of speech.The constraints are being applied by anyone who has access to  a computer, ie. everyone.The mob sits at a desk these days.
Report Sica Dan March 24, 2015 1:06 AM GMT
Last year 'a left wing mob' kept Farage in a pub and now this year
another left wing mob have chased him out of a pub Needless to say
the BBC gave air time to the guy who organised this hooliganism.
Report The Special One™ March 24, 2015 1:16 AM GMT
its a shame they didnt execute the vile rancid individual
Report ebulGery March 24, 2015 1:39 AM GMT
Dobbo  • March 23, 2015 11:37 PM GMT
Freedom of speech is being challenged by, well ,freedom of speech.


that is an interesting concept.
We do not normally physically intimidate each other, although I have seen some threats,
Neither do we intimidate governments

These sites are about the only place we can actually criticise our government
Those who support unpopular causes can sometimes be trolled, but can fight back by argument, I do, some of the causes
I support are not universally popular on here

ie Ched Evans
Report Angel Gabrial March 24, 2015 2:00 AM GMT
Government agents can hound us though Gery.
Whether it`s the police(in uniform/fancy dress), Capita agents/TV Licencing.

Anyway how would the establishment deal with a group of 1 million prank protesters being a pain in the arse? The prank protest revolution could be on it`s way. Like the Arab spring but with good old British humour.
Report Angel Gabrial March 24, 2015 2:04 AM GMT
And who better to lead us, yes of course the comedy genius Russ Brand. The job is made for him, well him or Dom Jolly..but i have him down as a Tory but i am fluid Gery.
Report polybot March 24, 2015 7:46 AM GMT
How could anyone with any knowledge of the 20th century imagine that a supporter of a free Ukraine is a left-winger?

Precisely, the Russian socialists (including the NKVD/KGB/FSB* trained Putin) have been trying to stamp out ukrainian culture and society and humans for almost a century! This notion is as ridiculous as the belief that the left could care less about the slavish little worker scum who keep them in  power.

*what's with the constant rebranding? something to do with the millions murdered and all those concerntration camps?
Report polybot March 24, 2015 8:05 AM GMT
Hitler was gay Polybot

Well he was a very snappy dresser, was into uniforms, only married a woman on the day someone held a gun to his head, meticulous facial hair grooming, always deeply frustrated, hated the catholic church, liked camps.
Unlikely Putin is though, though he's a sociopath and bad for the region probably, but technically it's true that he is a good leader in a sense, in that he backs his own country which punches above it's weight given that it's something of a basket case due to a century of communism, with nothing more than arms and primary production (mostly oil and gas) to keep it afloat. His task is made extremely easy due to the very gay obama who seems to have absolutely no comprehension whatsoever in foreign policy, either that or he is psychopathic.
Report spellingandgrammarchecker March 24, 2015 1:09 PM GMT
polybot   
24 Mar 15 08:05 
Well he was a very snappy dresser, was into uniforms,


I often wonder how many of today's 'luvvies' would wear certain fashion items if they knew they were designed by the same company who designed nazi uniforms.
Report Sica Dan March 24, 2015 1:46 PM GMT
On one of the history channels last week they said Hitler
actually hated  wearing uniforms and changed into civvies as soon as
he was out of public view.
Report Platini March 24, 2015 2:21 PM GMT
putin screams gay to me

justsayin
Report Capt__F March 24, 2015 3:24 PM GMT
Justin
Report alun2005 March 24, 2015 3:29 PM GMT
All I know is that if Mr Farage had gone to The Rovers Return, this sort of unseemly spectacle would have never occurred. The landlady there takes a pleasingly tough line on miscreants, and I gather has an accommodating nature regarding the needs of her special customers.
Report ebulGery March 24, 2015 3:40 PM GMT
Laugh
Report ebulGery March 24, 2015 3:44 PM GMT
Platini  • March 24, 2015 2:21 PM GMT
putin screams gay to me
justsayin


How do you work that out?????

The only people who claim that are probably gay themselves, they did not like one of his laws.
Report Angel Gabrial March 24, 2015 5:23 PM GMT
Hitler was gay Polybot

Well he was a very snappy dresser, was into uniforms, only married a woman on the day someone held a gun to his head, meticulous facial hair grooming, always deeply frustrated, hated the catholic church, liked camps.


[img]http://images.onesite.com/community.betfair.com/user/angel_gabriel/c298ba452d391a0119e0b2c49d05ca1e.jpg?v=120000[/img]
Report screaming from beneaththewaves March 24, 2015 5:54 PM GMT
Blimey. Shave off the tache and you've got Charlie Sheen in Two and a Half Men.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves March 24, 2015 6:01 PM GMT
As for the dwarf in the Kremlin, put "putin bare chested" into Google Images and tell me this is not a man whose anti-gay legislation is the work of someone unable to come to terms with his own sexuality.

If only he could come out of the closet, he might be able to think straight enough to haul his country out of the mess into which he can't stop plunging it.
Report Platini March 24, 2015 6:10 PM GMT
just looks gay. nothing wrong with that, if he was honest about it. Fat chance though Laugh
Report Eeternaloptimist March 24, 2015 6:19 PM GMT
screamingfrombehindafeatherboa

You seem to be having trouble with the notion that many people who find the thought of having a man's peni5 thrust up their jacksy or balls bouncing off their chin repulsive are not necessarily themselves repressed homosexuals. It was outlawed in this country until the mid 60's and I'd imagine that at that time most people were indeed repulsed by it. Times have changed and more people are tolerant but there are still plenty of normal people who find such behaviour repellant. It doesn't bother me in the least but I respect the right of others to think differently as I respect the right of homosexuals to enjoy themselves how they like.
Report Foinavon March 24, 2015 7:36 PM GMT
Fromage chased down the hill by line of fit young men.

Will take place this year on 25th May.

http://www.soglos.com/sport-outdoor/27837/Gloucestershire-Cheese-Rolling
Report Dr Crippen March 24, 2015 7:44 PM GMT
screamingfrombehindafeatherboa

Lol.
Report moisok March 25, 2015 6:48 PM GMT
from the guardian letters


As a Guardian reader for over 50 years and a Downe resident for over 20 years, including eight years as landlord of the Queen’s Head, I find your article (Big trouble in middle England, G2, 24 March) disappointing, to say the least. This was in no way a political demonstration but an ill-disciplined, attention-seeking rabble with no thought of other people’s safety or enjoyment. They booked the George & Dragon under false pretences for larger numbers and purposes than it is suitable for, thereby ruining normal customers’ afternoon enjoyment.

A large number of families use this pub and the Queen’s Head for a peaceful Sunday lunch and social gatherings. Young children with their parents (including the Farage children) were terrified by these events. Mr Farage remained calm during these so-called demonstrations and certainly had no minders, heavies or aides with him. Your correspondent omits the fact that the driver of the hired coach refused to transport the rabble back to Bromley, worried about their behaviour and no doubt his safety. Also, the article does not take into consideration the damage caused to the business and reputation of these well-run pubs. I’m not, of course, going to stop buying or reading the Guardian, but hope for a return to more balanced and objective reporting.
Alan Dear
Downe, Kent
Report ebulGery March 25, 2015 8:04 PM GMT
I agree with this letter moisok

This was physical intimidation of Mr Farage, not for the first time. People cannot defeat him in argument so they resort
to these bullying tactics.

One problem with our society is that we are too fair, too tolerant and too lenient. Aggressive minorities use this to
intimidate the peaceful majority. They do it physically, politically, through the media, economically and in other ways.
This does nothing for democracy in this country. I have not forgotten the disgraceful scenes when Nick Griffin appeared
on question time.

If we compare us to Russia , who are nothing like as tolerant or lenient, we find they have less trouble . They just bang
these people up end of.

I believe in free speech, but just that speech. Incredibly we actually take this away from the majority in order to protect
these aggressive minorities. Everybody should be able to say what they feel.
Report moisok March 25, 2015 8:11 PM GMT
every time I see the apologists for this sort of behaviour appear on here I ask

what would you do if your sunday lunch was disrupted like this

what would you feel like

what would you feel about your children being scared of a mob

they seem to think it is fair game

they ask  what are english values  - well this is one of them - you don't intimidate families and children!!!
this sort of behaviour simply is not cricket now is it!!!

and people like angel defend it!!!
Report ebulGery March 25, 2015 8:27 PM GMT
this sort of behaviour simply is not cricket now is it!!!

very well put moisok...no it is not!
Report Angel Gabrial March 25, 2015 8:35 PM GMT
and people like angel defend it!!!

Don`t worry Gery, Moisty is confused. He is still looking for one post of mine which defends it. I added satire but never defended it. Yet Moisty is kneejerking like a hipster on speed over this, i think his equilibrium is out of kilter.
Report Angel Gabrial March 25, 2015 8:38 PM GMT
And like the Mob who attempt to taint Nige, i have my very own tainter, he goes by the name of Moistsok.
Report ebulGery March 25, 2015 9:42 PM GMT
I see Angel

Immigration matters to people in this country. But has there ever been a democratic discussion on this in this country?...well no

Up to the mid term by election our two main parties dismissed Mr Farage as a nutter. They have only offered limited concessions
since because of the votes he got

In the last 60 years we have allowed vast immigration to this country but have never allowed any democratic voice against it.
So we are not a democracy at all really, and I think we have also gone mad on this issue.

For all that I will vote Labour, because we do not have true democracy, we only vote for parties, not issues.

The one issue I have picked above all others is economic equality. The best chance of that is with Labour

It does not affect me that much, but I have seen too many of my friends suffer.

But in the cause of free speech I want Mr Farage to be heard.
Report ebulGery March 25, 2015 9:49 PM GMT
I accept small scale immigration, it is the large scale immigration which has harmed us.

I don't blame immigrants I quite like them, it is our own stupidity I fear is to blame.
Report Angel Gabrial March 25, 2015 10:20 PM GMT
Labour need to up their game on regulating job agencies, and i agree with Farage that an employer should be able to advertise for a local British worker if he wants. Not that companies would really do that because they run more efficiently getting their pound of flesh from the Polish worker.

In fact could the UK low-skilled be trusted to pull their socks up if there ever came a time when the EU workers where not invited back?
More jobs young British people can only be a good thing Gery, but will companies be satisfied with whats on offer or will they up sticks and relocate to Germany?
Report moisok March 25, 2015 10:38 PM GMT
as an apologist of mob rule and immigration I just wonder who you are working for angel
there were a million working on the land in2004  nearly all idigenous now its all foreign - quite a good blow for you supporters of the influx.
Report moisok March 25, 2015 10:41 PM GMT
spanish construction companies only employing outside spanish immigrants
the same with polish field pickers and gang masters

clothes companies/retailers busing in only poles

tell me about it

how does this help our young unemployed (black, white or asian)  I think they may be fkn fed up with it too.
Report Angel Gabrial March 25, 2015 11:00 PM GMT
Moisty dear, many British companies prefer employing a high percentage of EU workers. Go to many Distribution Warehouses and you will see almost a 50/50 split(British/Foreign ) but 50% of that 50/50 split is full time permanent and 50% is temp agency.

Take away that foreign workforce and what will the company do? employ the unmotivated locals? who should be on the books in the first place. Why aren`t they? The turn over of staff is like a conveyor belt as many EU workers go back home after a few weeks.
Report treetop March 25, 2015 11:16 PM GMT
Surely there is a morality issue too. Should a relatively wealthy country be stealing much needed skills and resources from other,less well off countries that need to develop themselves ? Obviously there is a benefit for them to earn but just to keep our taxesdown,our NHS and cheap services ?
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