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CHELTENHAM BETTING TRENDS
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1/4 according to Oddschecker, spelling', although nothing would surprise me with them.
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checked corals online, it is 1/4. Maybe 1/5 in shops.
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McMoonbeam Backs One Horse all Year
FALLS LIKE A SACK OF SPUDS AT THE LAST |
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your pain is someone else's gain
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THE NEPTUNE NOVICES HURDLE
Two winning favourites, one winning 2nd favourtie and 3 winning 4th favourites in 2009 and 2013 the first 3 in the betting were the first 3 home. in 2011 the first 4 in the betting were the first 4 home. In 2014 the favourite and 2nd favourite were first and third When the favourite or 2nd favourite didn't win in 2008, 2010 or 2011, the 4th favourite won all 3. Just 4 of the 21 places came from outside the first 5 in the market, and they were all 2nd. Definitely not a race to punt on big priced horses |
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THE RSA CHASE
Only 2 clear favourites (winners 2008 & 2009) have got in the first 3 home in the last 7 runnings The joint second worst non handicap race at the Festival over 7 years for placed marlet leaders (coupled with the Albert Bartlett Hurdle) with just 10 of the first 4 in the betting market in the first 3 home in 7 years One joint favourite (2nd) one 2nd favourite (3rd) three joint 2nd favs (2nd and 2 x 3rds) and one 3rd favourite, have made the frame in 7 runnings, but none of them in a year when the favourite won. A race for the middle of the market, apart from the 8 mentioned above, only 4 of the remaning 13 places went to those outside the first 7 in the betting. |
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THE CORAL CUP
Unsurprisingly, a graveyard for favourites. The first 4 home for 7 years = 28 places, and only 6 from the 2nd, 3rd and 4th in the betting have been placed. Not one clear favourite has got in the first 4 home in the last 7 runnings The joint 2nd fav in 2008 is the most fancied runner to win it in 7 years The joint 2nd favourite was also 3rd in 2014. The 3rd favourite was 3rd in 2009. Despite the lack of placed favourites the winner and second have only seen one horse outside the first 7 in the betting, when the joint 27th favourite was 2nd in 2010 The 3rd and 4th places have been a different kettle of swimming things Of the 14 places available, 8 have come from outside the first 12 in the market Get your lucky pin out... |
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THE CHAMPION CHASE
In 2009 and 2012, the first 3 home were the first 3 in the betting. 3 clear favourites and two 2nd favourites have won, 2 clear favourites and 2 x 2nd favourites were 2nd 2 joint 2nd favourites have finished 2nd and 3rd, and one clear 2nd favourite also finished 3rd. Only one clear 3rd favourite (2012) has made the frame in 7 runnings. Apart from the 2nd (joint 7th fav) and the 3rd (the rag) in 2014, and the 3rd (7th favourite) in 2011, nothing outside the first 5 in the market has made the frame |
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CROSS COUNTRY CHASE
In 2009 the first 5 home were the first 5 in the betting, the only time it happened in any handicap race in the last 7 years Only 3 clear favourites have got in the frame (2nd 2009, 3rd 2014 and 4th 2011) in the last 7 runnings The 2nd favourite has been in the frame in all 7 runnings (3 wins, 2 came 2nd, a 3rd and a 4th) The clear 3rd favourite has won twice (2011 & 2012) and was 3rd in 2009 After the first 3 in betting filled 13 of the 28 places, 5 of the remaining 15 places were horses outside the first 10 in the betting |
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FRED WINTER NOVICES HCAP HURDLE
A graveyard for market leaders. Favourites over the last 7 years have managed one win (2010) one 2nd (2008) one 3rd ( 2012) and two 4ths (2009 & 2011) 2nd favourites have contributed a 2nd (2010) and a 4th (2012) 3rd favourites nabbed just one 3rd (2008) Two joint 4th favourites have won twice (2008+ 2009) and finished 2nd once (2014) The last 3 winners have been a joint 15th favourite and two joint 18th favourites Lucky pin time again... |
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THE CHAMPION BUMPER
Another costly race for favourite backers, and the worst of the non-handicap races for market leaders being placed. Only 8 of the first 4 in the market made the frame in 7 runnings. Apart from 2009, when the 2nd favourite won, the other 6 winners all came from outside the first 5 in the betting No winning favourite in 7 runnings, but two 2nds and 2 thirds, plus a 2nd placed joint favourite. One 3rd favourite managed a 2nd place In 2011 the first 5 home came from outside the first 5 in the market. |
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Shortesr price horse in the frame in each of todays races returned £47-75p for a £1 place acca.
1-2, 1-6, 2-1, 1-5, 6-4 and 2-1. Placepot paid £211 |
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Shortest price horse in the frame in each of yesterdays races returned £216-69p for a £1 place acca
7-8, 13-32, 17-8, 9-8, 7-4 and 7-2 3 favourites, a 3rd favourite, a 4th fav, and a joint 7th favourite. The placepot paid £1,280 I've had 5 out of 6 two days running, perhaps I'll crack it today. |
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THE JLT NOVICES CHASE
First run in 2011 No winning favourite yet, but two 2nds (2011 & 2013) The 2nd favourite won in 2011 & 2012, the 4th best won in 2014 The 3rd favourite was 3rd in 2011. The joint 5th favourite has notched up 3 places - 2nd and 3rd in 2012 and 3rd in 2014. |
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THE PERTEMPS FINAL
The worst race of the whole Festival for placed favourites using the past 7 years of results. Just one winning favourite (2014) and no places. A joint favourite was 2nd in 2008, with no other places The 2nd favourite was 4th in 2013, with no other places The 3rd favourite was 3rd in 2011, with no other places The 4th favourite was 3rd in 2013, with no other places Apart from 2014, the most fancied winner was the joint 5th favourite in 2010 11 of the first 4 home (28 places) including the 2013 winner (12th favourite) came from outside the first 10 in the betting Big priced horses did okay in 4th place, where 5 of the last 7 came from outside the first 14 in the betting. |
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THE RYANAIR CHASE
Now there's a funny thing - 7 years of the 3 market leaders... 2 winning favourites (2012 & 2014) 3 winning 2nd favs (2009, 2011 & 2013) and a winning joint 2nd favourite (2008) 3 favourites (2009,2010 & 2013) a joint 2nd fav (2008) and a 3rd favourite (2011) have finished 2nd. That left 10 horses from the first 3 in the betting unaccounted for, and not one of them finished 3rd. (6 of them finished 4th or 5th, but that's no help in this race) Only 3 horses, 2010 (winner and third) and the 2013 third, came from outside the first 6 in the market. |
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THE WORLD HURDLE
In 2011 the first 3 home were in market order. The first 5 in the betting were the first 5 home in 2008, but not in market order. 4 favourites (2008, 2010 - 2012) two 3rd favourites (2009 & 2014) and a 4th favourite (2013) were the last 7 winners. 2nd place went to the favourite in 2014, and 2 x 2nd favourites in 2009 & 2011 The 3rd favourite grabbed 3rd spot in 2011 The 3rd in 2010 and the 2nd in 2013 were the only two in the frame in 7 years from outside the first 6 in the betting. No point in backing big prices here. The 2nd favourite is the placepotters enemy, finishing 4th or 5th on no less than 5 occasions out of 7. |
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BROWN ADVISORY HANDICAP CHASE
The 2008 race saw smallish payout queues at the joints with the only clear rag to win any Festival race in the last 7 years when Mister McGoldrick relished the soft ground and won by a fair distance at 66/1. The favourite obliged in 2012, while no other winner was in the first 6 in the betting. The favourite nabbed 3 second places (2009 & 2010) and a third place (2011) The 2nd favourite was 4th in 2008 & 2013. 3rd favourites claimed 2 second places (2008 & 2013) and a 3rd place in 2009 The 4th favourite was 4th in 2014 The joint 4th favourite was 4th in 2013, and the 5th favourite was 4th in 2009 10 of the 28 horses that filled the frame came from outside the first 12 in the market A lucky pin race? |
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THE FULKE WALWYN & KIM MUIR HCAP CHASE
The favourite won the 2011 & 2012 runnings, was 2nd in 2013 and 3rd in 2010 The 2nd favourite hasn't won, but was 2nd in 2014, 3rd in 2013. and 4th in 2012 The 3rd favourite won in 2010, was 2nd in 2012 and 4th in 2013 3 of the other 4 winners came from the first 8 in the betting Only 9 of the first 4 home (28 places) were outside the first 6 in the betting Nothing in the first 4 in the market has finished 5th in 7 years (like that helps) |
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TUESDAY
Shortest price horse in the frame in each of todays races returned £47-75p for a £1 place acca. 1-2, 1-6, 2-1, 1-5, 6-4 and 2-1. Placepot paid £211 WEDNESDAY Shortest price horse in the frame in each of yesterdays races returned £216-69p for a £1 place acca 7-8, 13-32, 17-8, 9-8, 7-4 and 7-2 The placepot paid £1,280 THURSDAY Shortest price horse in the frame in each of yesterdays races returned £126-11p for a £1 place acca 3-8, 9-4, 5-8, 5-4, 11-8 and 9-4 The placepot paid £239-70p 5/6 placepot...again 3/4 quadpot  |
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THE TRIUMPH HURDLE
No winning favourite for 7 years, but apart from 2012 and 2014, the winner was the 2nd favourite (2008) joint 2nd favourite (2013) 3rd favourite (2009 & 2010 ) and the joint 3rd favourite (2011) The favourite was 2nd (2008 & 2009) along with a 2nd favourite (2011) and a joint 2nd favourite (2014) The favourite was 3rd in 2012, as were the 2nd favourite in 2009, the joint 3rd favourite in 2011 and the 4th best in 2014 4th place appears to be paid by the Tote when there are 16 or more runners The favourite finished 4th in 2010, 2011 and 2014 The 2nd favourite was 4th in 2009 Counting the first 4 home as in the frame (28 places) 17 were in the first 4 in the betting, and only 3 came from outside the first 9 in the betting |
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COUNTY HURDLE
Another graveyard for those at the head of the market, but marginally better than the Fred Winter Handicap Hurdle. The best backed winner was the joint 3rd favourite who claimed victory in 2013 The 2011 winner was joint 4th favourite and the 2014 winner was 5th favourite. The 2009 winner was joint 7th favourite and the other 3 winners of the last 7 years came from outside the first 10 in the betting. Only one favourite has got in the first 5 home, when it was 2nd in 2008 Two 2nd favourites have finished second (2011 & 2014) the 5th favourite was 2nd in 2013 and the other 3 seconds came from outside the first 15 in the betting The 3rd favourite was 3rd in 2013, as were 2 x joint 7th favourites in 2012 & 2014 The other 3rd placed horses (4 of them) were outside the first 10 in the betting The most fancied horse to get 4th was the 8th favourite in 2013, the other 4th placed horses (6 of them) went to those that were all outside the first 10 in the market, with 3 of them also being outside the first 20 in the betting. |
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THE ALBERT BARTLETT NOVICES HURDLE
The joint second worst non-handicap race at the Festival over 7 years (coupled with the RSA chase) with just 10 of the first 4 in the betting market in the first 3 home in 7 years The favourite won in 2011 & 2013, finished 2nd in 2009 & 2012 The 2nd favourite won in 2012 and was 2nd in 2013 The 3rd favourite was 3rd in 2013 The 4th favourite won in 2009 and was 2nd in 2014 Only 2 big priced horses made the frame, the joint 15th favourite won in 2010, and the joint rag was 3rd the same year The 2010 running made the bookies smile as the first 5 home come from outside the first 10 in the betting |
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THE GOLD CUP
Favourites won in 2009, 2011 and 2013, finished 2nd in 2008 and 3rd in 2012 2nd favourites won in 2008, finished 2nd in 2009 & 2010, and 3rd in 2014 3rd favourites won in 2010, finished 2nd in 2013, and 3rd in 2011 The joint 3rd favourite won in 2012 but had no other places The closest 4th favourites got were 2nd in 2011 and 3rd in 2009 The horses above account for 15 of the first 3 home over 7 years Of the other 6 places, only 1 came from outside the first 7 in the market, when The Giant Bolster was 2nd at 50s in 2013 The 2014 running saw the winner being 7th best, the 2nd was 6th best, and the 3rd was 5th best. A quick look at the records reveals that the last time the first 4 in the betting were unplaced was 1997. |
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A spread of colour on my chart for winners (where the horse figured in the betting is denoted by a coloured square)
One winner that's green (2013 - favourite) and 2nd in 2012 One winner that's light blue (2010 - joint favourite) One winner that's dark pink (2009 - 2nd favourite) One winner that's light red (2012 - 3rd favourite) and 3rd in 2013 One winners that's mid-blue (2014 - 4th favourite) also 2nd in 2008 A lonely yellow box for the joint 2nd favourite that was 3rd in 2014 The other two winners (2008 & 2011) are white - (unfancied - joint 10th fav and joint 16th fav) Of the other 10 places that are in white, 7 of them come from outside the first 10 in the market The 2011 race saw the first 3 home come from outside the first 4 in the betting. |
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^^^^ THE FOXHUNTERS CHASE
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THE MARTIN PIPE CONDITIONAL JOCKEYS HCAP HURDLE
First run in 2009 Abysmal record by favourites, a win in 2011 and a 3rd in 2009 was all they could muster. The 2nd favourites fared worse, with just one 4th in 2010 Joint 2nd favourites had the same lack of success as the 2nd favourites, with a 4th in 2010 Two 3rd favourites managed a 2nd in 2012 and a 3rd in 2014 The most fancied runner to win was the 6th favourite in 2014 |
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THE A.P. MCCOY GRAND ANNUAL HANDICAP CHASE
The favourite managed a win in 2013 and a 2nd place in 2008 The most fancied runner to win apart from the 2013 favourtie was joint 8th favourite in 2010 Joint favourites were 2nd and 3rd in 2014 2nd favourites won in 2008 & 2009 3rd favourites managed just a 4th place in 2014 Joint 3rd favourites were 2nd in 2012 and 4th in 2011 Of the other 17 winners and placed horses, 13 were not in the first 7 in the betting. |
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1) How many races were there on the Thursday of 2008 - 10 pumphol
2) Who holds the record for the fastest time for the Gold Cup - Long Run Mikael D'Haguenet 3) Who had the fastest time for the Gold Cup before the answer to Q2 - Looks Like Trouble - pumphol 4) What will be the total distance covered by races this year (not including the charity race) Nobody bothered, the answer is 71 miles and 7 furlongs |
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Gold Cup Day frivolity.
5) Chases make up for 40 miles and 110 yards of the total. How much distance is covered by hurdle races. 6) Who rode the winner of the 1954 Triumph Hurdle winner 7) Which race did trainer Vincent O’Brien win 10 times in 8 years (that’s not a typo) 8. Who was the last sole top weight to win a handicap at the Festival? 9) Who was the last horse to carry 12 stones to victory 10) How did Ivor Herbert make the news at Cheltenham. |
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5) Chases make up for 40 miles and 110 yards of the total. How much distance is covered by hurdle races.
Answer - 29 miles and 6 furlongs. If you thought it was a simple maths question and subtracted 40 miles and 110 yards from 71 miles and 7 furlongs you never allowed for the Champion Bumper. 6) Who rode the winner of the 1954 Triumph Hurdle winner Answer - The flat racing legend, Lester Piggott 7) Which race did trainer Vincent O’Brien win 10 times in 8 years (that’s not a typo) Answer - The Supreme Novices Hurdle. It used to be run as the Gloucester Hurdle, and was split into divisions. He won one division in 1952, one again in 1954, two divisions in 1955, two in 1956, one in 1957, two in 1958 and one in 1959. 8. Who was the last sole top weight to win a handicap at the Festival? ANSWER -Fingal Bay in the Pertemps Final in 2014 9) Who was the last horse to carry 12 stones to victory ANSWER - Tammys Hill - 2014 Foxhunters Chase 10) How did journalist Ivor Herbert make the news at Cheltenham. ANSWER - He actually trained Linwell, the 1957 Gold Cup winner, but as a journalist he was forbidden to hold a trainers license, so the name given as the trainer was Charlie Mallon. |
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Would have known number six
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I made them easy enough.
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