|
By:
Do you honestly think this whole complex universe, with complex minds and bodies came from a random big bang from nothing? I'm not happy with sciences answers but the god hypothosis is just as bad. It's much easier saving a step and explaining things without the need for a creator. If there is one, he's very benign and simply rolled the dice and let us get on with it. Science doesn't have all the answers but it's getting there slowly. How do you explain people's near death experiences? Tricks of the mind. When the Oxygen finally runs out, the electrical impulses stop and we go back to nothing, just like it was before we were born. How do you explain the sightings of ghosts? The brain tricks us into seeing things that aren't actually there, that's why we see a face on the Moon and in clouds etc. How do you explain the DMT lodged in our brains and other living things? Ain't got a clue either what DMT is either. |
|
By:
Everything in this world has a creator.
Time and space are the fabric of the universe. Before "Big bang" neither time nor space existed therefore cause and effect did not exist either. If you postulate a creator you have to explain how he was created. You are then introducing an infinity of complexity to the event. Maybe they are hallucinating but can you hallucinate when your not on any drugs? Hallucination and dream are the same thing. See your answer to DMT There are too many cases around the world on sightings of ghosts. Is every case bs? Yes. Just because a lot of people believe something doesn't make it true. A chemical in your brain which is released when you sleep which causes you to dream. A massive amount is also released on death. It is also a drug which when taken (a friend of mine took it) said he felt like God. (I believe were all mini Gods in our own way, WE ALL CREATE.) |
|
By:
So you all believe in nothing? Do you believe in yourself?
I used to be an atheist but often viewed the world in a negative light and became depressed. Don't know how you do it. |
|
By:
If belief in a deity makes you feel happy, then go for it but please don't expect others to share this belief without proof.
|
|
By:
I don't force it upon anyone but I guess it's alright to spread the negative depressing views of atheism right?
|
|
By:
Platini • March 9, 2015 9:13 PM GMT
I challenge anyone to read the God Delusion and not get something out of it. Whether your religious, atheist or whatever, it's a very entertaining read. Very funny and witty in parts and just clever in most others. I will take your word for it Platini To me Richard Dawkins seems like an immature 6th former who is just trying to be clever I do not mind him being witty or clever but when it comes to religion he seems to be incredibly petty What is he achieving? Surely what we believe is our own right? As long it is not used as an excuse to harm others, I do not care what any one believes |
|
By:
Atheists need to shout loudest, they`re the ones running scared. Bit like muslims, really, hoping to shout loud enough to blank out the knowledge that they`ve backed the wrong horse. Fail miserably to convince even themselves, deep down, let alone any good Catholics.
Shout away, boys, but you know The Day of Judgement`s coming! |
|
By:
Nobody forces atheism on anyone. There is a huge amount of propaganda in favour of religion. The religious brainwashing of children starts virtually from birth and religious organisations try and force their values on the rest of society. People like Richard Dawkins offer much needed counter arguments to this. Atheists don't go knocking on peoples doors exhorting them to "convert" since atheism is not a religion, nor does it send missionaries around the world to convert people from one voodoo to another.
Atheism is not depressing. If you want to hear depressing news tune into the BBC and listen to the latest on IS for example. |
|
By:
I remember him saying that male circumcision is some terrible mutilation, but it is relatively minor
Female circumcision is more intrusive so I am against that It is very primitive as well, predates Islam, I think we should discourage that Although I am not over keen on women at times, I do stop short of cutting bits off them |
|
By:
I do not see c of e, forcing many of their values on our society, even if we could do with a few
Our society is extremely secular, few people go to Church, and just because someone tries to force religion on us as children does not mean we have to believe as adults. It never did that to me, in fact put me off it. But I do not mind people who want to believe, it is no threat to me, I choose my own beliefs and allow others to do the same. |
|
By:
Regarding your post on circumcision Gery, isn't that depressing? Surely it's wrong to do that to a child. Wait until he is old enough to decide for himself. I'll bet there won't be many takers.
Strange that those who believe that a perfect god created them in his own image should feel the need to modify that perfect creation with a knife. How do you explain that? I'm off to bed so will duck out for now. ![]() |
|
By:
Yes but it is so trivial, lots of men are circumcised, not always for religious reasons, why make it into something
it isn't. This is my problem with Richard Dawkins, everything he says is like this. There is no depth to it. I think he is pathetic and I am an atheist myself, although I want to believe.I do not mind intelligent discussion , for and against religion, I love those sorts of discussions. The sort of discussions someone like CS Lewes would involve himself in, such a wonderful, caring and intelligent man. But not some mindless petty criticisms at about the same level as the Sun newspaper, which is all we get from Dawkins. Clever he may be Richard Dawkins, but such a shallow man. |
|
By:
I don't agree with your assessment of Richard Dawkins at all. He is always quiet and dignified and gives reasoned arguments for any claim that he makes. This is more than can be said for most of his detractors.
You mentioned that the C of E does not force it's values on the rest of society and that is largely true today although it doesn't hold back when giving it's opinions. It wasn't so long ago that it had much more influence and religions can become nasty when they hold a lot of power as can be seen in many places today. |
|
By:
Its not religion thats nasty its people.
|
|
By:
What are religions if not groups of people motivated by a set of beliefs?
The beheaders of IS say they do it in the name of Islam The Catholics who burned humans said to be witches and heretics at the stake said that they did it in the name of Christianity. |
|
By:
Where in the Bible does it say burn people at the stake? Is that a fundamental part of the religion? Nasty people do nasty things regardless of their religion.
|
|
By:
I agree Dotchinite, it seems to me our human nature is at fault rather than religion
I am sure Richard Dawkins presents himself well, but he does seem to me to have a complete obsession against religion. There is a mix of good and bad in religion, if there were no good at all, why does it exist? Religion has been frequently misused, some of the things people say are about religion , if one looks closely, turn out to be about things like: land, power, control, wealth, defence of a culture(religion is just a part). Religion is just being used. Personally I doubt anyone who does not want to believe gets converted and nor do people who do believe gets unconverted, and if opening any book on science does not say GOD is dead, I do not know what does. Perhaps people need a religious belief in Atheism as much as people do in Religion. They a god a GOD in Richard Dawkins. Still Isaac Newton had his Alchemy, so perhaps Richard Dawkins needs his extreme Atheism as sort some of break from all that heavy scientific stuff. I had a religious conversion as a child to Atheism, the cause Science Fiction, I found it a lot more interesting than the Bible. Still I could hardly claim everything in Science Fiction is true , any more than it is in Genesis. I believe let people believe want they want to believe. |
|
By:
For Dotchinite
“I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. (John 15:5-6) |
|
By:
Ithink you have misinterpreted that verse Foinhaven.
|
|
By:
Thanks for that. What it means I have no idea but then neither do you.
|
|
By:
The New Testament itself (Paul) calls its message "Foolishness" - foolishness preached to a dying world...Paul calls the cross of Jesus Christ the ultimate "foolishness". Dawkins is a flat-track bully. You're going to get people who are not too bright in every walk of life.
But hey ho, time ticks away - jog on Dawkins. What did Solomon ask for? Gold? Intelligence? Wisdom? |
|
By:
Dawkins is perhaps the greatest living Englishman, the opposite of a bully but he makes the mistake of thinking the British working classes are logical....religion is very dangerous when in the hands of the mob.
|
|
By:
As for the vine and branches, the branches don't have to struggle or grow of their own accord - they don't have to do anything except remain in the vine.
http://www.whatsaiththescripture.com/Fellowship/Murray.The.True.Vine.html The True Vine by Andrew Murray - an examination of Jesus' metaphor which Jesus took from the Old Testament. |
|
By:
The "mob"...
![]() Is that the MOB marauding through the Middle East? Just about ANYTHING is dangerous in the "hands of the mob." Football, Nazism, Communism, cheese-rolling, hyper-melpharginistic ray guns...have I missed anything out? The feckin' MOB...sigh...hope I don't bump into them at Tesco tomorrow when I'm buying jelly and ice cream. |
|
By:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv2U2Xp2Nu8
![]() Richard Dawkins Struggles to Remember "Origin of the Species" Title Against Rev Giles Fraser. "...uh...uh...uh...it has a subtitle..." 14th February, 2012 on Radio 4. |
|
By:
Dawkins is someone from a different time, a more rational and beautiful time when briefly in England the rational and scientific way was seen as best...now he is trying to stem the tide of superstition and madness and violence.
|
|
By:
Religion is only suitable and safe in the hands of the English middle classes (if such a thing still exists), it is not suitable and very dangerous in other sections of society and the world.
|
|
By:
Who is responsible for this "tide of superstition and madness and violence"?
You might as well name and shame them while you're here, lfc1971. While you're at it, you might as well also tell us about this tremendous, rational and beautiful time...when was it exactly? Was it when Liverpool FC were champions of England? Can you remember that far back? ![]() By the way, lfc1971, that METAPHOR you used - "...stem the tide of of superstition..." ; that is what George Orwell called "A dead metaphor." It is no longer viable through over-use and is now a rank rotten cliche. How different from the GORGEOUS metaphors in the Bible. |
|
By:
The MOB!
![]() The TIDE! ![]() Got your popcorn and 3d glasses, folks? |
|
By:
1872 is my favorite year, I like to live in the past.
|
|
By:
Cool...
![]() |
|
By:
The light of the world...the gate...the bread of life...the vine...the good shepherd...the way...the resurrection and the life...
There are yer metaphors mate, comin' at yer official MOB, like, in a massive TIDE like thing...! ![]() |
|
By:
DAVID BODANIS, author of "E=mc2: A Biography of the World's Most Famous Equation" :
"Bodanis' effort to make science accessible extends to the historically tense relationship between science and religion. Unlike many scientists, he sees nothing mutually exclusive about science and religious faith. "I love the humility of Michael Faraday, that his religious views led to those deep insights in science and I can't bear people like Richard Dawkins who are anti-religion and who tend to pick soft targets. For instance, Dawkins misses the fact that Einstein had a subtle religious view." Bodanis is all for inclusiveness, in contrast, he says, to a science writer such as Dawkins, who is one of the leading advocates of Darwinism. "Instead of saying you have your view and I have mine, Dawkins says I am 100 per cent right. He is not the ideal calling card for evangelical atheism, though he is a gifted writer." " |
|
By:
Theodor Adorno :
"There is no universal history leading from savagery to humanitarianism, but there is one leading from the slingshot to the megaton bomb". |
|
By:
the posted video of dawkins and his simpering acolytes is him at his absolute worst.
this is not about furthering the cause of atheism, or helping to convert the religious. this is about intellectual superiority and laughing at people in the throes of cognitive dissonance who have most likely had the unfortunate circumstances to be born into religious families and have lacked a thorough education. Had Dawkins been born in a mudhut in rural Pakistan and sent to a Madrassa because his parents couldn't afford to feed him, what are the chances he'd be where he is today. It is no good advert for atheism or humanism to show such a sneering lack of compassion. As always, South Park were on the money, nailing it Go God Go. "Let us not forget the great Richard Dawkins who finally freed the world of religion long ago. Dawkins knew that logic and reason were the way of the future. But he learned using logic and reason isn't enough. You have to be a dick to everyone who doesn't think like you." |
|
By:
Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened.
|
|
By:
The worst moment for the atheist is when he is really thankful, and has nobody to thank
|
|
By:
why are people still talking about god.........this is not the middle ages
|
|
By:
yet our government has legalised gay marriage whilst still supplying state funding for faith schools.
and we still have decision makers in our upper house of parliament who have been appointed based on their position in their religious organisation alone. and we still have blasphemy laws. |
|
By:
For when we cease to worship God, we do not worship nothing, we worship anything
|