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And hasn't received a penny of compensation.
The MoJ said only people who proved their innocence could get compensation.
Mr George was convicted of murdering Jill Dando in 2001 but was acquitted of the killing at a retrial in 2008 after doubt was cast on the reliability of gunshot residue evidence.
His family has tried and failed twice to get compensation for him and are now campaigning for a change in the law.
Absolute disgrace.
The MoJ said only people who proved their innocence could get compensation.
Mr George was convicted of murdering Jill Dando in 2001 but was acquitted of the killing at a retrial in 2008 after doubt was cast on the reliability of gunshot residue evidence.
His family has tried and failed twice to get compensation for him and are now campaigning for a change in the law.
Absolute disgrace.
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A bizarre legal anomaly really. To convict you need evidence beyond reasonable doubt. When this is subsequently proven to not be the case then the tenet of innocence because guilt was wrongly arrived at should surely be reinstated and the demand to actually prove innocence is at the least unjust? If so then pay the man what he is due for stealing his life.
In 1981, George somehow persuaded a stadium in Derby to stage a stunt in which he jumped over a row of double decker buses on his rollerskates. The stadium sold hundreds of tickets for the event. At the last moment, having seen the platform and ramp which had been constructed, George tried to back down but plucked up courage and managed to complete the leap.
he was convicted beyond reasonable doubt
it wasnt an unreasonable decision based on evidence
doubt has been raised against part of the evidence so his conviction was deemed unsafe
hes got a long history of stuff, not sure why my taxes should fund his life in exile
it wasnt an unreasonable decision based on evidence
doubt has been raised against part of the evidence so his conviction was deemed unsafe
hes got a long history of stuff, not sure why my taxes should fund his life in exile
If he would have had his roller skates in prison he could have escaped
I thought the law has to prove guilt, not the other way round?
As his conviction was deemed unsafe, then he must be innocent
Pay him
Still we have an even worse one now, I am not sure he will ever get justice
Justice is failing, like so much else is in our society now
As his conviction was deemed unsafe, then he must be innocent
Pay him
Still we have an even worse one now, I am not sure he will ever get justice
Justice is failing, like so much else is in our society now
Was he the fall guy who took the wrap for Dando, who was about to expose a child porn ring?
GAYS WANT WEDDINGS,BARRY GEORGE WANTS COMPENSATION,FAT WOMEN WANT GASTRIC BANDS ,WOMEN WANT BIG BUSTS ON THE NATIONAL HEALTH,EVERYBODY WANTS SOMETHING ,WELL SOMEONE SHOULD TELL THEM THEY ANT HAVE FHEM MONEY DOESNT GROW ON TREES ,I WANT I WANT I WANT I WANT
he should pay us for the 8 years we gave him board and lodgings
The case against him was very weak, it was almost entirely circumstantial.
The only thing hat convicted him was one piece of forensic evidence.
Immediately doubt was cast on that evidence, there was no case against him.
I do not see why we should not pay him compensation, for wrongful imprisonment.
People get paid large compensation claims for far less, in fact often for telling a complete pack of lies.
The only thing hat convicted him was one piece of forensic evidence.
Immediately doubt was cast on that evidence, there was no case against him.
I do not see why we should not pay him compensation, for wrongful imprisonment.
People get paid large compensation claims for far less, in fact often for telling a complete pack of lies.
I would agree we live in the I WANT society as Do Wah Diddy says
But 8 years imprisonment, he deserves something for that
But 8 years imprisonment, he deserves something for that
it's absolutely farcical. it's impossible to prove that you're innocent as opposed being not guilty short of a cast iron alibi and if you had that you wouldn't have been fitted up for it in the first place
you only have to take one look at him to see he wasn't capable of carrying out what was in all likelihood a professional hit man job
you only have to take one look at him to see he wasn't capable of carrying out what was in all likelihood a professional hit man job
The guy that got him released is the same lawyer coont who represented Levi Bellfield. Wouldnt be surprised if he was guilty.
"he should pay us for the 8 years we gave him board and lodgings".
"The guy that got him released is the same lawyer coont who represented Levi Bellfield. Wouldnt be surprised if he was guilty".
These are similar quote`s to the unfounded opinions of most fools when the appeals were ongoing for The Birmingham 6, Guildford 4, Maguire 7, Bridgewater 3 in the 70s.
Despite the shameful historical stitch-ups, the ****s used to claim "IF THEY WERE NOT GUILTY OF THAT CRIME, YOU CAN BE SURE THEY ARE GUILTY OF SOMETHING ELSE"
George is suspiciously looking like a possible fit up, no surprise to find out in 20 years time that he was a distraction to avoid a huge political scandal, or just a soft target to clean up a high profile case.
"The guy that got him released is the same lawyer coont who represented Levi Bellfield. Wouldnt be surprised if he was guilty".
These are similar quote`s to the unfounded opinions of most fools when the appeals were ongoing for The Birmingham 6, Guildford 4, Maguire 7, Bridgewater 3 in the 70s.
Despite the shameful historical stitch-ups, the ****s used to claim "IF THEY WERE NOT GUILTY OF THAT CRIME, YOU CAN BE SURE THEY ARE GUILTY OF SOMETHING ELSE"
George is suspiciously looking like a possible fit up, no surprise to find out in 20 years time that he was a distraction to avoid a huge political scandal, or just a soft target to clean up a high profile case.
Cast your minds back to this.....
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Stefan Ivan Kiszko (24 March 1952 – 23 December 1993), a 23-year-old local tax clerk of Ukrainian/Slovenian parentage, served 16 years in prison after he was wrongly convicted of her sexual assault and murder. His ordeal was described by one MP as "the worst miscarriage of justice of all time."[1] Kiszko was released in 1992 after forensic evidence showed that he could not have committed the murder. He died in December 1993. Ronald Castree (born 18 October 1953 in Littleborough, Lancashire) was found guilty of the crime on 12 November 2007.[2]
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Stefan Ivan Kiszko (24 March 1952 – 23 December 1993), a 23-year-old local tax clerk of Ukrainian/Slovenian parentage, served 16 years in prison after he was wrongly convicted of her sexual assault and murder. His ordeal was described by one MP as "the worst miscarriage of justice of all time."[1] Kiszko was released in 1992 after forensic evidence showed that he could not have committed the murder. He died in December 1993. Ronald Castree (born 18 October 1953 in Littleborough, Lancashire) was found guilty of the crime on 12 November 2007.[2]
THATS WHY THEY DONT HAVE HANGING ANYMORE THERES BEEN HUNDREDS OF CASES WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN FOUND GUILTY THEN FOUND TO BE INNOCENT,IF YOU HANG SOMEONE ITS NO GOOD DIGGING THEM UP IF THEIR FOUND TO BE INNOCENT,
The police seem to find the local nutter then try to make the eveidance fit. Like the murder of Rachel Nickell, they tried to fit up Coilin Stagg. 16 years later Robert Napper admitted to the crime. Napper killed a mother and daughter after Stagg had been arrested for murder.
The Derek Bently case always comes to mind....
1953: Derek Bentley hanged for murder
Teenager Derek Bentley has been executed at Wandsworth Prison in London for his part in the murder of Pc Sidney Miles.
The 19-year-old was hanged at 0900 hours after last-minute appeals for clemency were rejected.
1953: Derek Bentley hanged for murder
Teenager Derek Bentley has been executed at Wandsworth Prison in London for his part in the murder of Pc Sidney Miles.
The 19-year-old was hanged at 0900 hours after last-minute appeals for clemency were rejected.
Official verdict at the first appeal....
"Not innocent ENOUGH!!!"
"Not innocent ENOUGH!!!"
absolutely scandelous if this guy doesnt get compensation, RIP Great Britain
A disgraceful state of affairs.
There is never a requirement in law to prove your innocence so why should he need to in order to receive compensation?
The answer can only be to spare the public purse in the knowledge that a significant share of the great British public are both ignorant and selfish and will not give two hoots about this travesty.
There is never a requirement in law to prove your innocence so why should he need to in order to receive compensation?
The answer can only be to spare the public purse in the knowledge that a significant share of the great British public are both ignorant and selfish and will not give two hoots about this travesty.
You are the same Wesdag who perfectly ok that someone should gain a large compensation over the death Baby P
the most appalling compensation claim I have ever seen
I believe he is innocent, and I think the law has to prove guilt before putting someone away for 8 years
which they have not done
Pay him!
the most appalling compensation claim I have ever seen
I believe he is innocent, and I think the law has to prove guilt before putting someone away for 8 years
which they have not done
Pay him!
ebul,
Ed Balls decided to play politics, sought a scapegoat and sacked her without due process.
Ed Balls decided to play politics, sought a scapegoat and sacked her without due process.
So you believe in technicalities before justice, well I don't
I believe anybody in charge of a department at a six figure salary takes responsibility for what goes on the department
If you she does not, what on earth was she being paid for?
Barry George is innocence so he deserves compensation.
I believe anybody in charge of a department at a six figure salary takes responsibility for what goes on the department
If you she does not, what on earth was she being paid for?
Barry George is innocence so he deserves compensation.
ebul going off on a tangent yet again!
This thread is about Barry George.
If want to continue to obsess about Sharon Shoesmith, then I suggest you start a separate thread.
This thread is about Barry George.
If want to continue to obsess about Sharon Shoesmith, then I suggest you start a separate thread.
Fair enough
But you see there is also a similarity here
You say Sharon Shoesmith was not dismissed by due process of law so deserves her compensation
But you see if you look at Barry George's case and the fact it was squashed it would appear he was not convicted by due process of law either
So by your own logic he deserves compensation as well Wesdag
But you see there is also a similarity here
You say Sharon Shoesmith was not dismissed by due process of law so deserves her compensation
But you see if you look at Barry George's case and the fact it was squashed it would appear he was not convicted by due process of law either
So by your own logic he deserves compensation as well Wesdag
He should set up a web site like that bloke up north who got mugged did,judging by the snapshot of support for him on here he'd have a million by the end of the week.
not a bad idea, I suspect someone would have to do it for him
Yes, and a winner for everyone, as Inland Revenue will tax him on the proceeds.
ebul are you thick? 
Read my original post re Barry George again.
Where have I said that I'm not in favour of him not being given compensation??
Read my original post re Barry George again.
Where have I said that I'm not in favour of him not being given compensation??
*Where have I said that I'm in favour of him not being given compensation??
here Wesdag
Wesdag • February 24, 2015 1:38 PM GMT
A disgraceful state of affairs.
There is never a requirement in law to prove your innocence so why should he need to in order to receive compensation?
The answer can only be to spare the public purse in the knowledge that a significant share of the great British public are both ignorant and selfish and will not give two hoots about this travesty.
Wesdag • February 24, 2015 1:38 PM GMT
A disgraceful state of affairs.
There is never a requirement in law to prove your innocence so why should he need to in order to receive compensation?
The answer can only be to spare the public purse in the knowledge that a significant share of the great British public are both ignorant and selfish and will not give two hoots about this travesty.
Which supports his case compensation.
Can you not discern that?
Can you not discern that?
Do you know there is nothing stopping ebul serving as a member of a jury....
A frightening prospect.
He was probably on Barry George's original jury.
It would only have been on the forensic Wesdag, fair's fair
I don't know if I would have done, the rest of the case did not appear satisfactory to me
I probably would not qualify lfc1971
I don't know if I would have done, the rest of the case did not appear satisfactory to me
I probably would not qualify lfc1971
As an eggspurt in matters Forensic, I am greatly saddened to say that the death of Jill Dando was the perfect murder. Not only did the perpetrator leave no clues, the finger was pointed at someone else who was convicted. The trail is so cold, the murder might just as well have taken place in the Antarctic. Either the perp was an amateur who got very lucky and won the murder jackpot or a first rate true professional.
My guess is we will never know.
My guess is we will never know.
the evidence against george was such that he was re tried and found not guilty
had there been no evidence and he had not been retried he would have got compo
hes a bit more than a local nutter, and there was plenty of reason to think he was worthy of trial
should every person found not guilty be compensated for their time ?
that would make justice impossible
the stefan kisco case is quoted, of course he was innocent and dna proved it, he was rightfully
awarded compensation although it could never be enough
theres plenty of stuff on barry george on bbc website, and as he has sued plenty of papers then
you have to think if bbc was producing lies he would have sued them in the ten years or so the article
has been up
had there been no evidence and he had not been retried he would have got compo
hes a bit more than a local nutter, and there was plenty of reason to think he was worthy of trial
should every person found not guilty be compensated for their time ?
that would make justice impossible
the stefan kisco case is quoted, of course he was innocent and dna proved it, he was rightfully
awarded compensation although it could never be enough
theres plenty of stuff on barry george on bbc website, and as he has sued plenty of papers then
you have to think if bbc was producing lies he would have sued them in the ten years or so the article
has been up
should every person found not guilty be compensated for their time ?
No, only the ones banged up for eight years.
No, only the ones banged up for eight years.
YOU DONT GET COMPENSATION IN INDIA ,THATS WHY ALOT OF INDIAN CRIMINALS WANT TO COME AND LIVE HERE
that would make justice impossible
justice isnt picking on the local nutter
its getting the person who actually did it.
doesnt matter if it makes the whole process harder.
its far more important to make sure you dont lock up the wrong person
justice isnt picking on the local nutter
its getting the person who actually did it.
doesnt matter if it makes the whole process harder.
its far more important to make sure you dont lock up the wrong person
courts must be free to give a trial to people
they cant get it right all the time
compensation for being charged then found not guilty is stupid
people would walk round acting suspiciously to invite prosecution in an attempt
to gain compensation....
the compensation comes from public funds and would be better used in
schools, hospitals and other public services
they cant get it right all the time
compensation for being charged then found not guilty is stupid
people would walk round acting suspiciously to invite prosecution in an attempt
to gain compensation....
the compensation comes from public funds and would be better used in
schools, hospitals and other public services
The gulliblity of the great British public eh? where would the establishment be without it.
originally the police were looking for a professional hitman.
When they couldn't find one, they found Barry George instead
When they couldn't find one, they found Barry George instead
people would walk round acting suspiciously to invite prosecution in an attempt
to gain compensation....
As you have been reminded previously he served 8 years
that is what compensation should be paid for
to gain compensation....
As you have been reminded previously he served 8 years
that is what compensation should be paid for
yes i know he did, after a trial,
hopefully it did him some good
hopefully it did him some good
Disgrace.Should be paid in full. Innocent til proven guilty is the law I thought.
Thank **** Donny isn't running the show.Fascist .
you go live next door to him if you wish, you can compensate him
im happy the law protects us
im happy the law protects us
According to Donny; Barry George owes them for 8 years of free board and lodgings, which he can work off by digging the footings for HS2
But if George managed to keep his fascination with Miss Dando relatively secret before her murder, his response to her death was out of all proportion.
The day after she was killed he missed an appointment at a local disability centre so that he could visit her home in Gowan Avenue with the flowers.
He claimed he was representing his local church, and later told police in an interview that he went there "to pay my respects ... mainly on behalf of various people in the community who wanted to express their loss.
"I am basically a born-again Christian and obviously wanted to do some form of gesture of regret."
George also collected condolence cards from local firms, though he never got round to delivering them.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-57542/The-evidence-Barry-George.html...
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got to be worth a trial for that alone, not sure why anyone would do that
but hes been found not guilty after a retrial so hes not guilty
The day after she was killed he missed an appointment at a local disability centre so that he could visit her home in Gowan Avenue with the flowers.
He claimed he was representing his local church, and later told police in an interview that he went there "to pay my respects ... mainly on behalf of various people in the community who wanted to express their loss.
"I am basically a born-again Christian and obviously wanted to do some form of gesture of regret."
George also collected condolence cards from local firms, though he never got round to delivering them.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-57542/The-evidence-Barry-George.html...
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got to be worth a trial for that alone, not sure why anyone would do that
but hes been found not guilty after a retrial so hes not guilty
Anybody who has been unfortunate to have been on the wrong end of a ****-up verdict in a court of law will tell you that, by that stage, all that follows (appeals etc) is a farce of so-called justice. It has naf all to do with justice and everything to do with the legal system attempting to save face.
It has naf all to do with justice and everything to do with the legal system attempting to save face.
quite.
Can't believe anyone thinks Barry George murdered Jill Dando
The Met investigation was as abysmal as any investigation they undertake which doesn't have the killer/motive/evidence immediatly apparent . They decided it was a nutter , then asked some 'profiler' to come up with profile of the nutter that did this .He came back with someone who was interested in Lady Di, and George was one of thousands who had developed a sort of obsession with her .There was not a shred of evidence he was ever interested in Jill Dando at all ,let alone obsessed .Tabloids reported he had a stash of items about Jill when he actually simply had thousands of newspapers/magazines ,some of which -inevitably given that she was one of the most famous people in Britain - had articles/photos of Jill Dando .He had not cut out her photo and stuck it on the wall , drawn targets on her head ,or done anything whatever to indicate the slightest interest in her.
George blabbed to anyone who would listen about other obsessions , like Freddie Mercury , but never mentioned Jill Dando to anyone he ever spoke to .
The most compelling evidence in the case to me is that the killer waited for her ,expecting her arrival .This might seem an obviouis thing to do as it was her house , but she no longer lived in that house , she had moved in with her fiance some weeks/months earlier and only popped into her own place briefly once or twice a week .Prior to that day there were no reports of oddballs hanging about in the street . So if the local nutter had done it he got incredibly lucky : The 1st time he goes to where he thought she was living to kill her ,within half an hour later she arrives , when , statistically , you'd typically be waiting 3 or 4 days .
Someone knew she would be going to her house that day at about that time .That the killer had to wait as long as he did maybe because he was not aware she would be popping to the shops on the way.
quite.
Can't believe anyone thinks Barry George murdered Jill Dando
The Met investigation was as abysmal as any investigation they undertake which doesn't have the killer/motive/evidence immediatly apparent . They decided it was a nutter , then asked some 'profiler' to come up with profile of the nutter that did this .He came back with someone who was interested in Lady Di, and George was one of thousands who had developed a sort of obsession with her .There was not a shred of evidence he was ever interested in Jill Dando at all ,let alone obsessed .Tabloids reported he had a stash of items about Jill when he actually simply had thousands of newspapers/magazines ,some of which -inevitably given that she was one of the most famous people in Britain - had articles/photos of Jill Dando .He had not cut out her photo and stuck it on the wall , drawn targets on her head ,or done anything whatever to indicate the slightest interest in her.
George blabbed to anyone who would listen about other obsessions , like Freddie Mercury , but never mentioned Jill Dando to anyone he ever spoke to .
The most compelling evidence in the case to me is that the killer waited for her ,expecting her arrival .This might seem an obviouis thing to do as it was her house , but she no longer lived in that house , she had moved in with her fiance some weeks/months earlier and only popped into her own place briefly once or twice a week .Prior to that day there were no reports of oddballs hanging about in the street . So if the local nutter had done it he got incredibly lucky : The 1st time he goes to where he thought she was living to kill her ,within half an hour later she arrives , when , statistically , you'd typically be waiting 3 or 4 days .
Someone knew she would be going to her house that day at about that time .That the killer had to wait as long as he did maybe because he was not aware she would be popping to the shops on the way.
The mug donny is indicative of the many morons out there who don't care about this case because it has not happened to them so why bother.
JILL DANDO WAS BEAUTIFUL AND LOVERLY SHE REMINDED ME OF SNOW WHITE,SHE WAS SOMEONE WHO I COULD HAVE FALLEN IN LOVE WITH,
no face to save, if the law was wrong he would get compo
just because a few on here think its wrong doesnt mean its wrong
hey ho, get over yourselves
just because a few on here think its wrong doesnt mean its wrong
hey ho, get over yourselves
I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO GO TO THE PICTURES WITH HER AND SHARED A BAG OF MALTEASERS
fit a random up with it.
dont give compo because he is deemed a wrongun and some think the world will be better off so its ok.
then pretend they are happy with our justice system
dont give compo because he is deemed a wrongun and some think the world will be better off so its ok.
then pretend they are happy with our justice system
had he been randomly fitted up he would be entitled to compo .......
donny, stop fishing mate.
You've already been shown up for being an utterly clueless mug.
You've already been shown up for being an utterly clueless mug.
The Adam Smith Institute has weighed in on this subject:
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http://www.adamsmith.org/blog/liberty-justice/this-is-vile-a-stain-upon-our-society/
I didn't know about the Victor Nealon case - government mugged him off for 17 years of his life for 'attempted rape'. At first glance you think 17 years for that, and he didn't even get any, then you realise he wasn't even attempting to get some. There will always be some miscarriages. But to say sorry, no money to rebuild your life, not even a voucher for 3 years at university or college say. Appalling.
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http://www.adamsmith.org/blog/liberty-justice/this-is-vile-a-stain-upon-our-society/
I didn't know about the Victor Nealon case - government mugged him off for 17 years of his life for 'attempted rape'. At first glance you think 17 years for that, and he didn't even get any, then you realise he wasn't even attempting to get some. There will always be some miscarriages. But to say sorry, no money to rebuild your life, not even a voucher for 3 years at university or college say. Appalling.
surely nealon will be compensated, its totally different ?
though it all there"s do wah with his bag of malteasers
there were 3 men seen at the time of the shooting....
they found one of them and he took the rap.
thats not justice.
unless you dont like barry george types.
donny is a bad copper imo
they found one of them and he took the rap.
thats not justice.
unless you dont like barry george types.
donny is a bad copper imo
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