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Calling the triathlon experts now....
Any wetsuit advice? http://www.wiggle.co.uk/orca-trn-thermo-wetsuit-wiggle-exclusive/#tabCustReviews £100. My cheapo one from tesco eight years ago ain't fit for purpose, far too tight round the shoulders. I only have 5 weeks before I go to Gozo expecting to swim 2-3 miles a day so time to stop fkin around. If the above doesn't seem reasonable can anyone suggest why not and what I should/should not be looking for in an entry level wetsuit. Considering prescription goggles too as a little sea water in eyes doesn't sound as bad as a little sea water in eyes with contact lenses in. |
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Enjoying reading your updates Rob. I'm having an easy ish year this year as I wish to paint my masterpiece next year.
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The one thing you should be looking for in any wetsuit is fit and comfort for you Rob. The manufacturers will sell you on any old shinola with this and that which will make little difference. If you can make it along to a decent local shop with an infinity pool (check online) they'll get you to try on suits to swim in. If you explain your price point to them and give them a rough guide of the type of swimmer you are they can give you some useful feed back from the side and you can say what suits you in the water.
On the specific suit there are a few around that price point but they tend to be broadly similar but remember you are unique. I'm not a big warr water swimmer myself but I'd be careful not to overdo it if you're thinking of using it in Gozo. Temps in the 90's and wetsuits which have a goal of allowing to you to swim efficiently often in cooler temps and help keep you warm won't always go. Most races below a certain temp some way below the 90's and people tend not to wear a wet suit. |
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Thanks for your advice EO. I wimped out of the sea session tonight and the organiser will lend me a wetsuit when I do and will no doubt give me some free advice. Glad you are enjoying my updates, sometimes think no one is listening. Really enjoying these midweek races, I am not a natural speedster but well happy to get in the top half of these fields via the old fashioned method of gritting your teeth and sweating it out. Some of the bikes on show are almost pornographic. Could not be more impressed if I was looking at a ferrari. I am a total amateur on the bike, both races it has been a procession of people going past me on the bike stage. I do not have those bike shoes which helps me in the transition (no changing of footwear) but it costs me on the bike stage. I notice I am often out of the saddle using my weight to get some momentum going, whereas the pros seem to be sat down with a proper cadence going. Still like you kind of said earlier, the more mistakes you make and the less you know the more there is to learn and the learning part, especially when it works out, is sometimes as much fun as the competing.
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I'm listening, Rob.
Can't impart any knowledge, but I'm listening. |
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I'm listening too.
I find this stuff very interesting. |
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Ah that is really nice of you to say Tommy and Makybe Diva. It is occupying my mind a lot of the time these days and I am very lucky to have this Tri group that I am training with down Brighton way, a proper good bunch of people. Remember parkruns are for all people of all ages and abilities andthey are all over the country and they are all over free. Just saying nothing stopping anyone giving. A whirl.
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Cheers Rob - but I'd rather slit my throat than do a parkrun!
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Marvellous stuff Tommy.
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hehe!
It's true though. Never, ever liked running more than 200m at a time (which I was school champion at all the way through school, and a very close second in the 100m) but give me the cross country course - and I walked most of it, moaning all thw ay. Gammy knees are not meant for long distance anythings. |
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Thought they called it the 200yd dash when you were at school. I find I am constantly stuck between boredom and addiction with it all. Considering the people I am surrounded by I think it is almost inevitable I will enter a half Ironman in September and a full Ironman in 2016.
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Cheeky boooogar!
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Think I did 400m in 75s at school. Well short of the speedsters but well in the top half of the yea
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Would you do a parkrun if all of chitchat sponsored you? I think you ahould do a parkrun, only three miles.
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Absolutely no Jack Palance.
I can't tell you just how much I hate running/walking long distances - which equates to anything over 200m! |
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Well just do 200m lots of times.
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I'b be dead - with a slit throat - after the first 200m!
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Don't worry about the bike Rob. Once you get beyond a certain point you're talking seconds. Work on the massive quick gains. Pacing is top of the agenda and training consistently but not too hard too quickly. On the technicalities like we've said before aero bars and definitely clip ins but don't make the mistake of buying road bike shoes. Tri specific shoes with an elastic band around the heel slip and you can be out of transition bare foot and on the bike faster than the guys putting their trainers on and it really does make a significant difference.
One other biggie which I don't know if it's been mentioned is learn to peddle efficiently on the bike. If you've got a turbo trainer or you can pop to a friends house who has one get yourself warmed up and then do some single leg peddling. You'll be amazed how inefficient you probably are with dead spots during your cycle revolution just within your cycling and how much you can improve regularly doing one legged cycling on a turbo. It can also make you ache like buggery using those correct muscles for cycling ify you're used to doing it in a different way. One encouraging thing especially in cycling is that you improve over a period of years so don't get disheartened by early set backs. |
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ran 1 mile 8.40
walked back 14.45 total 2 miles 15 stone 7 lb beer belly 46 |
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At 46 a mile at that weight in that time isn't to be sniffed at Capt. I know the huge difference dropping even a stone makes to my own running. You could be the new Seb Coe if you cut the beer and cigars out.
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want to do sub 2 hours half marathon
the 46 was my beer belly in inches I 51 |
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Take inspiration where you can Capt. Can it be done? Of course. Ed Whitlock hardly ran in his 50's or early 60's I think but he did run about 2:54 for the marathon at 74. Inspiration is everywhere you look. I was just reading about Bob Scott who holds the age group record for Kona ( if you're not familiar world championship, triathlon, Hawaii, two and a half miles swim, 112 miles bike and then a marathon and his record in the 70's age classes is phenomenal. There's a Japanese fella whose name escapes me but he's been burning up the 60 plus records for the marathon.
A rule of thumb which all these big guys never listen to when I tell them is that for every pound you lose you will run 2 seconds a mile quicker. It's all there online to check. Imagine that. Mo Farah is about 5 feet nine and about 130 lbs. You may be taller but for arguments sake lets assume you're the same height. You're 217 lbs. You're 83 lbs heavier. Let's assume you don't want to look like him but are prepared to drop to 157 just for this running thing. That's two minutes every mile you're saving. Over the course of a half marathon you can drop well over 25 minutes without doing anything else other than not putting that donut or beer in your mouth. Throw in the improvements you'll get from training and less likelihood of injury and there's just one more question to ask: What are you waiting for? It isn't going to come to you. |
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Cheers EO good advice
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I need to take it myself and lay off the Guinness. Half of me wants to do an Ali and be so loud about it as to make it impossible not to actually put the work in but the other half does love that chocolate and Guinness. I've said it though. No more shiitting about. I'm 50 next year and next year I paint my masterpiece. I want to get as close as I can to 60 minutes for the Sprint triathlon and anybody who knows the event will know that is a big ask for a 50 year old. Probably going close in the age group world champs I'd guess. Don't laugh but my biggest worry is open sea water. I'm part of the Jaws generation.
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Good stuff that Capt F, and good luck. Do keep us informed of your updates, i always like to read about how other people are doing with this kind of stuff. My first HM was about 2:12 but my last one was 1:42. Think 2hr HM is 9:07 min/mile so you are well ahead of that already and bet you will be surprised at how 1 mile becomes 2 becomes 5 becomes 10 etc. I really wanna lose weight too, I went from 13st to 11.5 stone in about six months last year. Packed up smoking in January and, despite training for Brighton Marathon I put on weight and am over 12st now. Every time I fancied a smoke I ate a Snickers. Bonkers mental but would love to lose, say 15lb (that wouldnt even be my fighting weight or make me slim) and gain 30s a mile running.
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60 mins sprint triathlon? Let me think?
800m swim 20k bike 5k run How do you do that in less than an hour? 12/1/30/1/18.... No that ends up at 1:02. And those times are kind of made up and proper quick. I would like to hear updates EO, I proper love all this stuff. |
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The bike is the key Rob.
I still don't know how fast I can go because I haven't done the training or weight loss for my running but as a young man I was a sub 30 minute road race 10k man so I'm reasonably confident I can get down to sub six minute miles again as I'm about a six and a half guy at the moment. The swim I am already a solid 12 minutes man but it's usually a 750 swim and I think I can eke out another minute there. So I'm guessing I've got 29 minutes for swim and run. These have tended to be pool based so you're only looking at 30 seconds per transition but with wetsuit you're quite a bit quicker in the water but your first transition is slower. Here's where it gets interesting because I've just done my own thing on the bike and been cycling about 34 minutes pre run for the 20k and I went into my local bike shop and he had me on the turbo and he told me I was basically a bag of shiit and was just doing it off peddling like buggery. Apparently, very much like swimming it's also a technique based event as much as it is blood and guts. How was I to know? So I'm doing an awful lot of one legged turbo cycling looking to take out my dead spots and I can already feel a difference but I've resolved myself to really going for it over the next year and forgetting about competing and concentrating on things I should have already done like base miles and lots of other things. I'm happy to finish in the top few in races currently but before I'm too old I'd like a real flourish where I do what I can to be the best I can be. |
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Live woman's triathlon on the Beeb red button just started.
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1.36 miles 10.45 10% gig first mile 7.59 lot downhill tho
walk back 2.72 total |
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Did my first olympic distance tri today. Almost. Was a kind of training thing with my tri group.
sea swim went as well as could be expected, about 35 mins i think but plenty of room for improvement, lots of treading water/doggy paddle/crawl with head above water as i had goggle trouble and coughing choking episodes after swallowing water. Got some rhythm going for the second half which was well quicker than the outward swim. Got a puncture and only did 35k bike, last mile of which was running pushing the bike. Think that took 1:24. 52 mins for the 10k run, including transitions was about 2:55. despite being 5k short on the bike feel confident of sub 2:45 in 7 weeks' time at Worthing. T1 was well slow, quite a long run from the sea(quite a long run in the sea actually) to transition area, prob took too much time drying feet and stuff. Doing a 1.5k sea swim tomorrow and hoping to get closer to 30 mins. I didnt really push it on the bike, or the run for that matter. Terrible headwind for half the course too. Lots of oppos to take off a minute here and a minute there. Got proper bike cleats and shoes now but havent installed them yet, will use them for Weds night sprint tri and hope to get my 20k bike time down fro. 40:41 to perhaps sub 39:00. Well done capt F, keep us up dated, I love reading about other people's training. You to EO. |
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Update
5 miles 53 17 secs weight just over 15 stone still boozing feel good tho |
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Well done Capt F. 4 months to go and you have come on well in one month. Dunno much about HM training plans but imagine you only have to get up to 10 or 11 miles in training so you are well on the way. Like I say keep us updated.
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8.58
9.21 9.11 9.37 9,45 10.16 11.07 11.25 11.24 9 miles 1:31:27 first 3 at sub 2 hour half 14 stone 12 lb cant give up the Ale feeling good tho |
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good work capt F. When is your half mara? keep it up and you'll suddenly find that you can maintain that early pace into the later miles. Like EO says, take inspiration where you can – If you are anything like me you will be desperately addicted to it all in no time.
I'm now thinking I could do 30 for the swim if conditions are good. Perhaps sub 30. I did mid sussex tri with a 25.5k bike segment - did that in 51 minutes and so now reckon I could do the 40k in 1:20. So add in 4 minutes for the two transitions the clock could read 1:54 when I start the run. 46 minute 10k? Perhaps get under 2:40 all in. 2:45 certainly has to be on the cards now so training is going real well. I’m starting a 16 week marathon training plan on Monday ready for Amsterdam 18 Oct, hoping for sub 3:30. It’s gonna clash with my triathlon training, but triathlon is more a fun adventure thing, I know I can do the distance and not so bothered about doing a good time. The marathon takes precedence for me. Also looks like I will defo be doing an Ironman in 2016. Probably in Vichy, France. |
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One advantage of being 15 stone is that you will burn 50% more calories than a 10 stone man doing the same exercise. Keep churning out the miles and the weight should drop off. A 15 stone man running 9 miles must be about 1500 calories. A 10 stone weakling might only burn 1000. A pound a week weight loss is a realistic aim I reckon. Some people say that to lose weight any quicker than that is not healthy anyway.
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Thanks rob earl oct
want to beat my colleague who is 26 but does little or no training -so he says love running when i get home have shower can o larger feel fantastic |
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Gl with ironman
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Oh great you've got plenty of time then. I know lots of people don't like them but Intervals are great for increasing speed. They are the hardest of all training runs too though. I have been using the marathon training plans from these people:
http://www.chss.org.uk/supportus/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Training-Zone-Half-Marathon-Training-Plans.pdf I like them because they give specific times and distances not this airy fairy "run 30 minutes at effort level 4" b.ollox. There is a sub 2 hour training plan there. |
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Ttt
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One week to go then, Rob!!!
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