What happened to my Auschwitz thread ??

Some idiot suggested that there may have been no gas chambers. He had "watched some videos on youtube".

I don't know if that was the reason the thread was pulled.

Bit like the forum pi$$head (on another thread) quoting a renowned, hard-core anti-semitic website as his source.

Yesterday (FV Ch19) - The World At War: The Genocide episode. 5pm and repeated at 11pm tonight.

shame, I clicked onto it yesterday and was going to read it properly today, seen some documentaires on it recently, I think no matter how many you see, you can never really imagine it unless you were there, nick, name and shame IMO

Thread got hijacked by a holocaust denier.

Thanks for posting it scissors, many will have read it and been moved.

how can anyone deny the holocaust, the only explanation is they are on the wind up, nobody could genuinely believe it didn't happen, I don't agree with bans but that deserves one

scan..........people can question the number but not the systematic killing of europes  jews but i dont think the number is that important .....if the nazis had won the war they would have wiped out all the jews of europe.......eye witness accounts even from the nazis .....think it was a french guy who started the holocaust deniers in the 1950.......then there was that clown david irving.....though i dont agree with prison for these people .....think that infringes free speech however much we are appalled by their bile and crap

There will always people who just love to be contrary - and they will always attract the many tyre kickers out there.

im sure CMAT would have been a denier

CMAT isn't anti-semitic

TCP is

pandora1963    30 Jan 15 17:54 
im sure CMAT would have been a denier


The voice of wisdom, your totally wrong, no surprise there though.

like i give a rats arse what you think of me pumphol , you just keep sticking up for small minded racist k unts

and CMAT  was and is a small minded racist k unt of the highest order

Careful, you'll get cmugs underlings seething.

good , anything that upset UKIP racist right wing k unts is fine by me

here is one of them right on cue

nothing to c&p from The Guardian today you mug?

Wesdag    30 Jan 15 19:01 
Careful, you'll get cmugs underlings seething.


Only one person seems to be seething on here.

Oh sure, pining for the return of cmug.

I may have quoted you but I was obviously talking about someone else, I thought even you would realise that

Ta Sherlock.

Typical of this place. You get one mug on a thread that people appreciated and he manages to have it removed. Cretin.

I'm sure scissors could re-write some of it.
A moving and interesting thread.

Lost because of the unpleasant burk Zealot - who I sincerely hope has received a permanent ban.
Not that this is something I would usually advocate, but his was exceptional offensiveness.
A shame the thread itself was removed.

As a matter of interest, Pandora, and I say this as I know him. CMAT would NOT be a denier.

Ditto re zealot.

Why do some people hide their forum activity? I don't remember Zealot  so I checked his profile (there used to be one on here a long while ago named Right Wing Zealot) According to the Betfair search engine, Zealot  has no recent activity.

If you can't find him then it probably means he has been booted - no loss at all.

Double Ditto re zealot.

He's not banned, his profile is there, but it shows no activity, so he hides it for some reason.

spellingandgrammarchecker    30 Jan 15 22:33 
He's not banned, his profile is there, but it shows no activity, so he hides it for some reason.


Very much like his minute brain

I remember him being annoying in the past - I can't remember the time or topic, it may have been a competition I was running.
As for his activity, I looked yesterday. It showed none then too. He hid himself, like most trolls.

Pulled!!!!!  -- That is a shame.
Why can't Betfair just remove the actual post
That offends - instead of the whole thread.
I did not copy any of it , as it came straight from 
my inner self , as you saw.
Reminds me of the book burnings.

Study .. Hope you and D are happy and well
In the Midlands - and that 2015 is a good year
for you !!
Allerton Laddies visits seem a long time ago now,
as does my orange night ;-)

'Tis a shame.

Was one of the more memorable posts.

Thanks scissors for your insight and personal experience.

I can't handle what happened there. It's beyond words, beyond any kind of reasoning.

The Germans were an educated people. To sink to such deplorable depths makes no sense.

The media would have us believe it was the 'Nazis'. It was the Germans. The nation was brainwashed into these atrocities. It shows the power of propoganda and the ability of a few to influence the many.

There would be a fear factor as well Injera. A fear of falling foul of the extremists.
Like you I can't handle the detail and doubt I could visit any of these camps.
A horrible blot on the history of mankind but must never be forgotten.

it's a shame it got removed, it was a very good thread.

surely the offensive post could have just been deleted and the thread kept.

i'm not sure holocaust denial is such a big thing though (it certainly shouldn't be a crime in any country), it is first and foremost rank stupidity and its proponents and their opinions should be treated with the same sort of importance as meths drinking tramps who think we're living in The Matrix.

Incidentally, the holocaust denier has not been banned.

I posted that on Friday night. ^^^^

Just confirming it as he has since started a thread elsewhere.

Does it show on his profile, or is he still hiding his activity?

hes entitled to his opinion , weather you agree or not.

No idea, but he started a thread on the horse racing section today.

cod-eyed-inbread   
01 Feb 15 16:24 
hes entitled to his opinion , weather you agree or not.

'Whether'

thank you mr gold sir

There is a difference between opinion and inciting racial hatred whilst quoting nonsense as "Fact".

Holocaust denial is illegal in Germany, Austria, France and some other EU countries.

Illegal in Canada but not USA.

It's not illegal in the UK but I think it can lead to prosecution if deemed to be inciting racial hatred.

I got myself in trouble for slating the woman on 'Countdown' (who happens to be Jewish).

I was charged with inciting Rachel hatred.

Riley, sorry really.

You got Nicked then.




I'll get me consonants

Shoah on BBC4 now

George Bernard?

hes entitled to his opinion , weather you agree or not

Always amazes me that anyone feels the need to post that.

i_agree_with_nick

I got myself in trouble for slating the woman on 'Countdown' (who happens to be Jewish).
I was charged with inciting Rachel hatred.


Be using that in the pub later. BTW Rachel hatred should bring the death penalty.

aka - as I have said before, all Chit Chatters have my express permission to not only use my jokes but pass them off as their own.

i_agree_with_nick  • January 30, 2015 3:46 PM GMT 


Some idiot suggested that there may have been no gas chambers. He had "watched some videos on youtube". Crazy

I don't know if that was the reason the thread was pulled.

Bit like the forum pi$$head (on another thread) quoting a renowned, hard-core anti-semitic website as his source.

That would not have been me nick, you still did not answer the question

I have continually said I am Pro Palestine NOT Anti Semitic

I would find it hard for anyone to deny the Holocaust happened, I visited Belsen when younger
I saw the photographs........man's inhumanity to man reached a new low in the Holocaust

How did we get there...sadly by small steps

Todays politics is a separate issue

EG - what question?

You may well not be anti-semitic but you seem to have a bee in your bonnet about the ownership and control of the media.

didn't read the first thread which was pulled, but WW2 related did anyone see the documentary at the weekend re MI-19 spying on German prisoners of war?
Quite an eye opener. Proved that many wehrmacht and luftwaffe personnel were involved in executions of Jews and other civilians during Barbarossa, although Germans prefer to lay blame very much at the door of the SS. Also excellent intelligence gathered from a group of senior German officers who blabbed to each other throughout their imprisonment obviously oblivious to being bugged. Including giving away the location of a V2 emplacement.

i_agree_with_nick    02 Feb 15 14:33 
EG - what question?

You may well not be anti-semitic but you seem to have a bee in your bonnet about the ownership and control of the media.



Good point Nick

maybe EG's been reading The Protocols of the Elders of Zion

i_agree_with_nick

aka - as I have said before, all Chit Chatters have my express permission to not only use my jokes but pass them off as their own

That bit was never in doubt.

i_agree_with_nick  • February 2, 2015 2:33 PM GMT
EG - what question?

Is Rupert Murdoch's mother Jewish?
I googled it, only one site gave me the answer, which said yes
So is it true or not?

Does it matter ?

ebulGery
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http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-entertainment-news-monopoly-murdoch-jew-part4.html

It says on this link Rupert Murdoch's mother was an orthodox Jew
I do not know whether this is true or false




i_agree_with_nick

Jewwatch.com? Are you serious?



I have never read anything mainstream which says she was Jewish.

.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisabeth_Murdoch_%28philanthropist%29

You dislike him, but even more so if he was Jewish ?
If not then I refer you to the post before.

I have never read anything she was not either....appears a mystery?

It does matter, because I have always felt there is a bias in his media, I was looking for a cause?

My problem is not with Jews, I quite like them, it is the policy of Israel itself
and worse still what has been done for them by others, notably the West.

I believe Palestine should belong to the Palestinian Arabs, Israel has no right to exist
That is all

I do not expect the Palestinians will win....it is the principle with me

http://edition.cnn.com/videos/world/2015/01/30/intv-amanpour-auschwitz-nazis-rudolf-hoess.cnn

Interview with the grandson of the camp commandant.

I believe Palestine should belong to the Palestinian Arabs

...and if this was the case, they would only start another war with someone else to replace the war with Israel. Look at all the middle east and north africa - carnage in all

ebulGery - I don't think it is as easy as saying the land belongs to Palestinians. It is the homeland of Jews too. The latter emigration from European Jews aside (Zionism) there were hundreds of thousands of Jews forced out of their native lands all over North Africa and the Middle East. Obviously the British Mandate for Palestine was a far from perfect way forward for the area to put it mildly. Let's not forget though that Palestinians have had more than one chance to accept a two state solution. I recommend a good readup of the 6 day war too. If that battle had gone the other way you would be looking at a second extermination of the Jews a generation after ww2.

I agree this is far from easy Hank Hill

But I believe once we liberated the area known as Palestine from the Ottoman Empire back in 1918
the land should have been handed over to the people that lived there.
The breakdown was 80% Palestinian Arab, 10% Jewish, 10% Christian.
This makes this a Palestinian Arab country to me.

Instead we stayed and proposed a home for the Jews. But I do not believe we had any right to do this.

I do understand the Jews desire for a homeland, look at how they have been treated everywhere else.
But they had been gone too long to go back.

This land now belongs to the Palestinian Arabs, and why should  they accept a two state solution of their
own country?

I understand the Jews fight for Israel, I do not think they will leave.
But I still back the Palestine cause because their claim to this land takes priority in my opinion.
That is my decision, other people can pick their own side

One other thing I object to, is the lack of neutrality in the West. I believe we should be more neutral.
The Jews can take care of themselves now

I suspect the Palestinian Arabs will finally have to accept reality, and finally give up their fight.

But I still believe in their cause, someone has to.

Personally I think Israel must accept the odd terrorist attack, I do not think it is too much to ask.

Israel retaliations seem to border on war crimes to me.

The West has also destabilised the whole region for Israel, this is too much.

The Palestinians deserve a much better deal here, we must try to diffuse the hatred, which is off the clock at the moment.

Then hopefully the need for Palestinian terrorist attacks will reduce naturally, if we can just make them a bit happier

I would reply but to be honest I need my pit more than I need to castigate some of what you have written

So on this occasion I will bid you goodnight

You must remember that this is chit-chat, pumpy, don't expect too much! ebulGery has proved what a clown he is on the McCann threads, so don't worry about his verbose nonsense

Utter phucking eejit. Pathetically simplistic viewpoints, no concept of the underlying problem. One to be avoided.

When it gets very simplistic I think its often down to a late night drink.

ebulGery   
03 Feb 15 00:32 
I agree this is far from easy Hank Hill
But I believe once we liberated the area known as Palestine from the Ottoman Empire back in 1918
the land should have been handed over to the people that lived there.
The breakdown was 80% Palestinian Arab, 10% Jewish, 10% Christian.
This makes this a Palestinian Arab country to me.

What does that make London?

good question

my posts do not appear to be popular on this thread

ebulgerry

After posting my fairly rude thoughts last night, I began to regret it, and would like to expand.

I enjoy reading the political threads on here, and you`re frequently  involved in them. You often post historical dates and events, which can be informative, but I always have am issue with your pro-Muslim, anti-Jewish/Israel conclusions..Yes, the Israelis sometimes do some terrible things, but the problem is that they are NOT the instigators. If left alone, they would be more than happy to leave the Arabs alone.

The problem, OUR problem, is that Islam demands a taking over of the world; not just the Arab states,not just Israel, but YOUR own little corner of paradise, too, with all non-Muslims being put to the sword. In fact, I think it was you who asked me, about a year ago, to post a link to the relevant verse in the koran: which I did. Hopefully, you and I will be long gone before this happens, but do you really want your children and grandchildren to be living as part of The Islamic State? 

I can`t quite believe that you do, even though what you post on here suggests otherwise.

Last night, reading that `they`re shouldn`t even be an Israel`, was all too Hitler-like, that I could no longer restrain myself. Apologies for the harsh tone of it, but I stand by the gist of it; your posts suggest that you`re an apologist for Islamic terrorism and, as such, a danger to  a free society!


One last thought; imagine you met Jihadi John. Do you think he`d be impressed by all the `right-on, anti-Israel` stuff? No, of course not. He`d have two questions for you, the first being `Are you my branch of Islam?` You reply `No`. He`d then ask you to `sit down, neck fully exposed, please...`
That`s the reality, they`re coming for you, for me, for all of us not in their own particular sect, including all normal, peace-loving Muslims.

The problem, OUR problem, is that Islam demands a taking over of the world

This is utter drivel, you have been programmed to believe this. How on earth do you think they could achieve this
it is IMPOSSIBLE, they do not have our weapons

I am sure Israel would like to live in peace. The problem they are living in someone else's country

Israel was created out of someone else's country Palestine. It should not have been created it has no right to exist

People just cannot move back to where they lived nearly 2000 years ago, it would create chaos, indeed it has ,throughout
the Middle East.

We have hammered a large wooden peg into a small round hole, by military force. The cost in human life and misery
is astronomical.

I cannot believe this was ever right.

Still the peg is in to stay. I have no solution

ebulGery    03 Feb 15 00:53 
Personally I think Israel must accept the odd terrorist attack, I do not think it is too much to ask.



Personally you have to accept most people will think  with comments like that that your a complete tool.

a square peg

they often think that pumphol...I can live with it