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We seem to bend over backwards to accommodate everyone's religious sensibilities in this country, but all we get in return is conflict, violence, hatred and intolerance. We have policemen standing idle whilst hate preachers spout their bile in our streets. Our spineless politicians refuse to criticise even the most abhorrent interpretations of any faith for fear of causing upset and losing votes. Instead we talk about this myth of the wonderful benefits that so-called "multi-culturalism" has brought, despite all the most patently clear evidence pointing to the fact that the religious division inherent in such a system, provides nothing other than a platform for unrest and intolerance.
Last nights, BBC news led with a story about how the Home Secretary was taking steps to "redouble the efforts" in securing Jewish people's safety concerns in the UK, despite there being no evidence whatsoever of any anti-Jewish activity at present. This was followed by something about multicultural Britain and the role of the Muslims in encouraging better integration. Then there was some coverage of the Pope's visit to the Philippines and six million brain washed citizens standing around in the rain to catch a glimpse of the head of a religious cult that preaches helping the poor despite possessing the sort of obscene wealth that would make a Russian oligarch blush, not to mention the horrendous history of covering up the very worst sort of paedophilia amongst it ranks.
All we hear about seemingly is religion and it's various forms, never with a word of criticism for the significant minority within each one, whose first resort is division and violence. Surely it would be better if we marginalised religion as much as possible. No religious programmes on telly (even Song of Praise), no religion in schools, no religion in politics. Let's have fewer Christian community centres, Jewish community centres, Muslim community centres, etc. Let's just have a single community centre for everyone.
I doubt I'm the only one who is sick of hearing about religion all the time, but has never seen much positive side to it all. Time to move into the 21st century and cast this pernicious and anachronistic cult worship into the annals of history.
Last nights, BBC news led with a story about how the Home Secretary was taking steps to "redouble the efforts" in securing Jewish people's safety concerns in the UK, despite there being no evidence whatsoever of any anti-Jewish activity at present. This was followed by something about multicultural Britain and the role of the Muslims in encouraging better integration. Then there was some coverage of the Pope's visit to the Philippines and six million brain washed citizens standing around in the rain to catch a glimpse of the head of a religious cult that preaches helping the poor despite possessing the sort of obscene wealth that would make a Russian oligarch blush, not to mention the horrendous history of covering up the very worst sort of paedophilia amongst it ranks.
All we hear about seemingly is religion and it's various forms, never with a word of criticism for the significant minority within each one, whose first resort is division and violence. Surely it would be better if we marginalised religion as much as possible. No religious programmes on telly (even Song of Praise), no religion in schools, no religion in politics. Let's have fewer Christian community centres, Jewish community centres, Muslim community centres, etc. Let's just have a single community centre for everyone.
I doubt I'm the only one who is sick of hearing about religion all the time, but has never seen much positive side to it all. Time to move into the 21st century and cast this pernicious and anachronistic cult worship into the annals of history.
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I think the dictatorship needed to implement what you want would be far worse. Our current problems are only caused by one religion, everyone else seems to get along just fine.
You may not be the only one who has these views about religion but you are a long way from being in a majority. |
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He might not be in a mjority, but he is absolutely spot-on.
I fail to see why I should kowtow to the lunatic beliefs of the brain-washed, in fact they should be openly mocked and humiliated until they realise exactly how stupid they have been. |
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The world is too tolerant towards religion imo. For a group of people whose philosophy is seeming based on love, forgiveness and all that stuff they seem to cause a disproportionate amount of grief.
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Nobody is asking anyone to "kowtow" to their beliefs but suggesting you openly mock and humiliate others because of their religious views is pretty unpleasant stuff though typical of people who always think they know best.
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We seem to bend over backwards to accommodate everyone's religious sensibilities in this country, but all we get in return is conflict, violence, hatred and intolerance. We have policemen standing idle whilst hate preachers spout their bile in our streets. Our spineless politicians refuse to criticise even the most abhorrent interpretations of any faith for fear of causing upset and losing votes. Instead we talk about this myth of the wonderful benefits that so-called "multi-culturalism" has brought, despite all the most patently clear evidence pointing to the fact that the religious division inherent in such a system, provides nothing other than a platform for unrest and intolerance.
Last nights, BBC news led with a story about how the Home Secretary was taking steps to "redouble the efforts" in securing Jewish people's safety concerns in the UK, despite there being no evidence whatsoever of any anti-Jewish activity at present. This was followed by something about multicultural Britain and the role of the Muslims in encouraging better integration. Then there was some coverage of the Pope's visit to the Philippines and six million brain washed citizens standing around in the rain to catch a glimpse of the head of a religious cult that preaches helping the poor despite possessing the sort of obscene wealth that would make a Russian oligarch blush, not to mention the horrendous history of covering up the very worst sort of paedophilia amongst it ranks. All we hear about seemingly is religion and it's various forms, never with a word of criticism for the significant minority within each one, whose first resort is division and violence. Surely it would be better if we marginalised religion as much as possible. No religious programmes on telly (even Song of Praise), no religion in schools, no religion in politics. Let's have fewer Christian community centres, Jewish community centres, Muslim community centres, etc. Let's just have a single community centre for everyone. I doubt I'm the only one who is sick of hearing about religion all the time, but has never seen much positive side to it all. Time to move into the 21st century and cast this pernicious and anachronistic cult worship into the annals of history. Amen to that. |
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The fact is that these people demand respect for views which are foolish in the extreme. They deserve to be mocked and humiliated because they are complete morons.
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And, what's more, I am being asked to kowtow to people's medieval beliefs. Under pain of death, in some cases.
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Certainly does seems bizarre that some morons hold the belief that people are not humans with human dignity but 'kaffirs' simply for not following their stone age religion.
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I remember some fella going on about imagine if there was no religion. I think he got shot to death soon after.
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What is even more bizarre Sultan is not only that we have to bend over backwards so as not to upset these medievalists, but that public money is spent on inculcating their lunatic notions in our children.
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quite so. By the way, since the current trend is taking offence, I have now decided to take great offence at the label "kuffar". Who do I need to write to to have it categorised under "hate speech"?
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Doesn't matter to whom you write, the law clearly states that 'hate speech' can not be uttered by Imams, and nor can black people be guilty of racism.
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I take it that we are discussing The Pope? Or maybe the Archbishop of Canterbury. Or maybe the Ayatollah?
Personally, I think you are discussing ALL of them, to a greater or lesser degree. |
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I should make it clear naydam that I am discussing all of them - the believers are all stupid and gullible, and their so-called holy men anything but.
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They're all nutters. It s fine when you want to be nutters in your own little world. Trouble is when you start messing with kids blowing people up and forcing your nutty ideas on the rest of society then there is a problem
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Hmmm. I think the problem is that the 'Holy Men' all know that it's nonsense. But that would mean telling all their gang that there isn't anything to follow after you die...and even if there is, killing yourself to get there is instant disqualification!
MY God says that you should live a long and peaceful life being kind and helpful to all that you meet. You may not get another life but at least you won't have wasted this one. |
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It seems to me most religions preach intolerance, yet we have to be tolerant to their intolerance...
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YOUR God would appear to be a kind and benevolent God then naydam. There are not many of them about.
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A lot of sense on this thread. The lunatics have been running the asylum for far too long.
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The trouble is there are too many rules in religion. I believe in God but not in religion.
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What is even more bizarre Sultan is not only that we have to bend over backwards so as not to upset these medievalists, but that public money is spent on inculcating their lunatic notions in our children. To be fair some of them only ask you to bend over.  |
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I sympathise with the mother here, the non-attender's father could have contacted her, and didn't bother. Such rudeness and lack of consideration may be par for the course these days, but it remains rudeness.
and I fail to see why I should kowtow to the lunatic beliefs of the brain-washed, in fact they should be openly mocked and humiliated until they realise exactly how stupid they have been. Is this the same 'voice of reason' Jed in both topics? |
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Look at the wealth that religions have, it's obscene. The cathedrals, churches and chapels that cost fortunes to build and maintain.
And all filled with artefacts that cost fortunes. Helping the poor my erse, helping themselves. Nice wage, free house for life and free entry to the fitba. that last one really gets me.  |
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Plenty of good replies to a very good OP here.
Ihave always been of the view that this was a much tighter-knit and caring society as long as it was Christian and held those values, pre and post war years were an example. Last 35 years have seen buisness and the lawyer along with the bank run our society without the caring nature of Christianity, multi-culturism was excessively introduced for the cheap labour and now we see many divided cities in our land. Greed is the new faith. |
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the religion of islam cannot have any money because I can remember that Burton council was forever giving them grants. They got £40k for a new roof for the mosque (formerly a C of E school which the council gave them for £1) back in 2002 and it still hasn't been done.
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quite so. By the way, since the current trend is taking offence, I have now decided to take great offence at the label "kuffar". Who do I need to write to to have it categorised under "hate speech"?
While you're at it can you add Infidel to that. It is always used in an aggressive and derogatory way. I know its literal meaning is "non believer" but then the literal meaning of P*** is someone from Pakistan (like aussie), but it always seems to be very frowned upon. |
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What's the problem paulypaul?
I've never claimed to be the voice of reason, but I'm quite happy to argue my case on any subject - I think that's why they put the forums on here in the first place. |
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No problem Jed...
Just seemed a but harsh the second comment IMO following one about manners! My 'voice of reason' comment was sarcastic, my apologies. Pauly |
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Its difficult when as a non believer you see people bowing and scraping,killing and fighting over what seem to be trifles.They have rules about what clothes they should wear ,how many times a day they should pray.They have iconic but usually dead figures who they revere and you think what the fck is this all about. They have books and scrolls written thousands of years ago that they insist contain words of wisdom and that are instructions for living in the present.
They lay claim to a life everlasting that really seems to be over optimistic or even insane. Are we too tolerant? Pretending to accept idiocy as normal is perhaps a trifle too tolerant. |
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I think the word 'religion' and the names of all of the individual religions eg. Christianity, Islam etc. should be declared Politically Incorrect.
We don't need books to tell us what is right and what is not. Treat everybody else like you would like them to treat you. Simplpe. |
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"Let's have fewer Christian community centres, Jewish community centres, [u]Muslim community centres[/u*], etc."
*so third down the list, surprised you mentioned it all, what with the recent surge in Buddhist sex rings, beheadings and drunk drivers. Are we too tolerant toward cowardly little worms in this country? |
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cloughandtaylor 19 Jan 15 18:54 Joined: 22 Jun 08 | Topic/replies: 3,180 | Blogger: cloughandtaylor's blog
Plenty of good replies to a very good OP here. Ihave always been of the view that this was a much tighter-knit and caring society as long as it was Christian and held those values, pre and post war years were an example. Last 35 years have seen buisness and the lawyer along with the bank run our society without the caring nature of Christianity, multi-culturism was excessively introduced for the cheap labour and now we see many divided cities in our land. Lets put this left wing myth to bed,if it was introduced for cheap Labour only workers will have gained entry,Labour introduced mass immigration for votes and to change the social make up of the country. Many of these new arrivals have no intention of working and are advised by left wing translators on how to rip us off . |
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 Left wing ffs. I live near Lesta, the left wing have destroyed this immoral sh1thole, most of us five miles from town will not use the football ground as it is too close to the city. The point you made, was one that has been obvious for the last 20 years, my point went back even further to involve the other political cretins on the other side. |
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I used to live in Leicester and it pains me to read some of the things going on there now. I loved the place and always found the Sikhs a great bunch of people, had many good nights out with them. I still visit at least once a year but how the population has changed since '82 is amazing.
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ALL religion should be taken with a pinch of salt,scepticism used to be one of the healthy attributes of this country.
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HH Sultan Vinegar. I am so sorry to hear that you think your mother is so bad that you expect people to insult her!
God bless you and your mother! |
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Ezekiel 23
"Yet she increased her whoring, remembering the days of her youth, when she played the **** in the land of Egypt and lusted after her lovers there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose issue was like that of horses" What's not to like |
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Is that from the Koran bongo ?
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