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"4 days' annual leave"

Have I got it right?

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By:
Ovalman.
When: 18 Jan 15 13:28
Punctuation is not my strong point but don't think you need an apostrophe?
By:
PatraTheCat
When: 18 Jan 15 13:29
Yep. The way to check if s' is required is to change it to the singular. "1 day's annual leave" sounds right and "1 day annual leave" sounds wrong, so logically an apostrpohe is required in plural cases too, and plural apostrophes always go after the s.
By:
PatraTheCat
When: 18 Jan 15 13:30
"Yep" was to OP.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 18 Jan 15 13:31
one week's time
two weeks' time

Both above are correct because the time belongs to the week, ie it is possessive.  I thought it might be something like that but not sure now.  "days worth of annual leave" does that mean possessive?
By:
rob_dylan
When: 18 Jan 15 13:31
Thanks Patra.
By:
Ovalman.
When: 18 Jan 15 14:56
Words of wisdom from me Crazy

Learn something new every day, thanks also Patra.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 18 Jan 15 15:11
I'm with Oval, don't see the need for an apostrophe.
By:
paulypaul
When: 18 Jan 15 15:24
It's a plural, not possessive so no apostrophe I would say...
By:
rob_dylan
When: 18 Jan 15 15:48
"4 annual leave days" = defo no apostrophe.

"4 days' annual leave" = just feels like it needs an apostrophe imo.
By:
Charlie
When: 18 Jan 15 15:53
I'm on the no apostrophe side.

The cook's annual leave  The leave belongs to one cook.
The cooks' annual leave.  The leave belongs to several cooks.
4 days annual leave.  The leave doesn't belong to days.
By:
lfc1971
When: 18 Jan 15 15:55
It would help if petrathe cat compared like with like..so
`one days annual leave` sounds right and
`one day`s annual leave also sounds right
  one day annual leave of course doesn't

no apostrophe needed.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 18 Jan 15 15:59
There has been talk about scrapping the apostrophe altogether.

There's certainly a case for scrapping the possessive use of the apostrophe,  simply because of the confusion it causes with road names.
Like in the example above, what difference does it make?
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 18 Jan 15 16:01
I think rob-Dylan is correct by the way.

It's possessive by association.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 18 Jan 15 16:05
He must be wrong then!
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 18 Jan 15 16:06
I wouldn't use an apostrophe either Ovalman , just looks a bit daft used that way imo
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 18 Jan 15 16:09
Rob is correct in his use of the apostrophe.
By:
lfc1971
When: 18 Jan 15 16:11
one day`s annual leave but 4 days` annual leave.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 18 Jan 15 16:13
^yep.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 18 Jan 15 16:14
no apostrophe for me
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 18 Jan 15 16:14
That contradict's your 15:55 post, lfc.
By:
lfc1971
When: 18 Jan 15 16:16
contradicts.. no apos.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 18 Jan 15 16:17
It's a cracker.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 18 Jan 15 16:17
1.01 landed etc.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 18 Jan 15 16:18
I'm sure that wasn't intentional even for M D'H.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 18 Jan 15 16:19
Looks like it was.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 18 Jan 15 16:20
It was intentional. Was kinda hoping you'd be the one to jump on it, if I'm being honest!
By:
lfc1971
When: 18 Jan 15 16:20
Happy
By:
Ozymandius
When: 18 Jan 15 16:21
what if you were to say ' four days of annual leave'..would the inclusion of 'of' make any difference to the apostrophe requirement?
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 18 Jan 15 16:21
This thread is near the top of google search.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 18 Jan 15 16:23
M D'H gets the prize for time waster of the week.
By:
Mc Moonbeam
When: 18 Jan 15 16:23
I did high level English & a lot of the time was taught you could either use it or leave it & both would be correct

admittedly i was usually more focused on the teachers sexy legs though instead Mischief
By:
rob_dylan
When: 18 Jan 15 16:24
He had a good set of pins did he?
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 18 Jan 15 16:24
I'm still in the no camp, although I'm wavering. Send a tw@t to the woman who wrote Eats, Shoots and Leaves - she has to know!
By:
rob_dylan
When: 18 Jan 15 16:25
"admittedly i was usually more focused on the teachers' sexy legs though instead"

I've added the apostrophe.
By:
Dr Crippen
When: 18 Jan 15 16:25
Ozymandius
   
I'd say no apostrophe needed there.
By:
Mikael D'Haguenet
When: 18 Jan 15 16:25
No to the use of an apostrophe, not MC's English teacher's legs.
By:
rob_dylan
When: 18 Jan 15 16:25
Actually it should be:

"admittedly i was usually more focused on the teacher's sexy legs though instead"

I think.
By:
Makybe_Diva
When: 18 Jan 15 16:26
Shouldn't that be teacher's?

I'm getting confused.
By:
Ozymandius
When: 18 Jan 15 16:26
agreed, Dr Crippen, so perhaps if Rob were to include the 'of', that would be a safer way to go.
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