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Rupert Murdoch has been strongly criticised after tweeting that “most Muslims” – even if peaceful – must be held responsible for the religion’s “growing jihadist cancer” in the wake of the terror attacks in France.

The News Corp boss added his influential voice to the global discussion on terror that has convulsed social media since gunmen slaughtered 12 people at the offices of the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo in Paris on Wednesday.


Maybe most Moslems peaceful, but until they recognize and destroy their growing jihadist cancer they must be held responsible.
— Rupert Murdoch (@rupertmurdoch)

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Report maleuk01. January 10, 2015 7:09 PM GMT
valid point imo

A few cartoons get printed and there is uproar, marches, flag waving and the rest of it.

Mad gunmen on a rampage waving their religion about and not a peep.

I saw a video earlier on a news channel about abu Hamza, he used to get huge audiences in London even kids there. Im sure he didn't preach about peace and harmony. Yet his audiences would claim to be moderate muslims if you ask them. What they say to eachother im not so sure.

These home grown terrorists are being bred and developed somewhere. The muslim community cannot wash their hands and say nothing to do with us gov, we had no idea what they where upto.
Report Mikael D'Haguenet January 10, 2015 7:17 PM GMT
That's like blaming all football fans for hooliganism. The man is a c*nt. Bet he daren't publish any cartoons of Mohammed.
Report maleuk01. January 10, 2015 7:20 PM GMT
its not at all Mikael.

These people have families/friends/people who go the mosk with them. Are you telling me none of them have any idea?

And as for football hooliganism your harping back to the 80's. They had fist fights, these extremists are blowing up shooting and killing thousands around the world. Big difference.
Report numer0ne January 10, 2015 7:21 PM GMT
Religion should be outlawed in this day & age. All religious building burned to the ground. THat would sort things out pretty quick!
Report Mikael D'Haguenet January 10, 2015 7:24 PM GMT
There may be a difference in the degree of violence involved but the principle of what I said is spot on. He's blaming the actions of the few on 1.6 billion people. He's a c*nt.
Report numer0ne January 10, 2015 7:25 PM GMT
People are too tolerant. THere's right & there's wrong. Black & white. Anyone with half a brain can see the profits were false.
Report Ovalman. January 10, 2015 7:26 PM GMT
Zenophobic here but I see Islam creating a new Crusade.
Report Ovalman. January 10, 2015 7:29 PM GMT
By Crusade I mean, populate a country, establish the religion, cry foul when it is criticise as a minority and create a majoriy.

Hitler was more subtle by hus methods and achieved his aims.
Report moisok January 10, 2015 7:35 PM GMT
Unfortunately and sadly he is right.
Report Mikael D'Haguenet January 10, 2015 7:37 PM GMT
Remember Dubya declaring that his/our crusade would take a while, Oval?
Report maleuk01. January 10, 2015 7:38 PM GMT
he isn't blaming all for the extreme acts of terrorism, he is actually saying the Muslim community need to be much more pro active in stopping these atrocities and flushing out these people.


And as long as the Muslim community continue to say its nothing to do with me then the whole Muslim community must bear part of the responsibility due to their inactivity in preventing these crimes. Surely these communities know a lot more, as I say friends/families, those who attend the same mosk etc.

Regarding the abu Hamza, there was a bigger demonstration against his deportation than the Muslim community  ever has about against terrorism.
Report Ovalman. January 10, 2015 7:39 PM GMT
All religion is evil but I see a spread of Islam that is affecting me directly.

Je Suis Charlie

Now is the time to stop it.
Report Mikael D'Haguenet January 10, 2015 7:39 PM GMT
maleuk01.     10 Jan 15 19:38 
he isn't blaming all for the extreme acts of terrorism, he is actually saying the Muslim community need to be much more pro active in stopping these atrocities and flushing out these people.


He's not blaming all but he's blaming their community? Makes sense.
Report moisok January 10, 2015 7:41 PM GMT
blair and bush went on to war with the blessing of god !!! They were pathetic and dangerous.

On the muslim community sitting on their hands - so have most of the media.  Muslims also write for one of the worst - the guardian so you are hardly going to get balance from them .  Check out the guy ramadan who wrote the other day and what he said about the muslim takeover of the UK
Or the Labour mp  Malik.
Report broadsword January 10, 2015 7:48 PM GMT
a short vid bout moderate muslims.              http://youtu.be/6Tgoyqd0BX0
Report ebulGery January 10, 2015 11:28 PM GMT
Murdovh's Jewish...of course he says that

Jews hate Muslims and all Arabs
Report Howdi January 11, 2015 12:16 AM GMT
maleuk01. • January 10, 2015 7:09 PM GMT
valid point imo

A few cartoons get printed and there is uproar, marches, flag waving and the rest of it.

Mad gunmen on a rampage waving their religion about and not a peep.

I saw a video earlier on a news channel about abu Hamza, he used to get huge audiences in London even kids there. Im sure he didn't preach about peace and harmony. Yet his audiences would claim to be moderate muslims if you ask them. What they say to eachother im not so sure.

These home grown terrorists are being bred and developed somewhere. The muslim community cannot wash their hands and say nothing to do with us gov, we had no idea what they where upto.
Report Howdi January 11, 2015 12:16 AM GMT
^^^ agree with every word
Report akabula January 11, 2015 12:27 AM GMT
Why Hamza wasn't jailed in this country for preaching hatred and inciting violence is a mystery however the yanks sorted him out.
Lost his appeal so he'll die in jail.

We saw a muslim burning poppies and what happened. Fined £50.
They verbally attacked our dead being returned home and what happened. Nowt.
Man impaled a pigs head on a railing outside a mosque and what happened? Jailed.
And so it goes on.
Tough on protecting their values but let them walk all over ours.
Report Platini January 11, 2015 6:56 PM GMT
fully agree, aka.

these (unts revel in their perceived victim status. they believe that they, and they alone, have a special devine right to feel offended.
Report Eeternaloptimist January 11, 2015 9:44 PM GMT
Prime example of stupidity and double standards is the British Burkha Corporation. Dave Allen, Life Of Brian, Christ In A Nappy et al? No problem we'll have em all. They're big enough to take it. We're a secular society etc etc. At the same time they send round a secret circular which tells people not to mention the Prophet Mohammed.
Report Ibrahima Sonko January 11, 2015 9:47 PM GMT
loving that British Burkha Corporation line
Report Velasquez January 11, 2015 10:05 PM GMT
Me too. Happy
Report akabula January 11, 2015 10:08 PM GMT
They should do a Muslim version of Father Ted.
Report Clouseau January 11, 2015 10:29 PM GMT
Given that any sort of criticism of the idealogy and its followers by non-Muslims is seen as racist or ideologist or whatever, and shouted down by the Guardianistas and their allies, then there doesn't seem to be much alternative than for the moderates to start getting vociferous about the fanatics in their midst.

And Akabula, maybe we could have a mass protest with placards stating "Down With This Sort of Thing" instead of "Je suis Charlie"!
Report akabula January 11, 2015 11:24 PM GMT
And Akabula, maybe we could have a mass protest with placards stating "Down With This Sort of Thing" instead of "Je suis Charlie"!

That's a cracking idea. Laugh
Report Platini January 12, 2015 12:16 AM GMT
They do like to play the race card. muslims are a race?   news to me Laugh

and let's not forget their fav word - islamophobia, a word so contrived, manufactured, and dangerous, its like something straight out of Orwell's 1984.
Report moisok January 12, 2015 5:20 PM GMT
Sunday mirror Page 4 - there are more of them spewing out their bile and justifying the killings of the 17 in Paris.  Nothing will change. No one has the guts. The demographic will rule ultimately.  We already have sharia courts in this country.  Convert or die.  Expect the debate to be clamped down on.  Expect politicos and the media to avoid the two big M words.
Report moisok January 12, 2015 5:20 PM GMT
Ps   too many votes for the main parties depend on them.
Report Dr Crippen January 12, 2015 5:32 PM GMT
Don't vote for any of the big parties if you want anything to be done.
They're the ones doing the damage.
It's amazing that the bloke in the street has to look to the right wing parties for protection against the lefties.
Report johnnythebull January 12, 2015 6:58 PM GMT
can't articulate
what one feels these days either orally or in print
anyhow at some point let's hope action replaces pointless verbiage
and i mean action in the respect of apocalyptic,final solution
but i won't hold my breath
in fact my last breath will have expired a thousand times over
before it may ever happen
Report maleuk01. January 12, 2015 7:06 PM GMT
one of the gunman's wife now says she had no idea what he was planning, and totally condemns his actions.

Also doesn't want people to think that there actions are true Islam.

Couldn't make it up! Self preservation in full flow here.
Report Dr Crippen January 12, 2015 7:40 PM GMT
^Like the posh bloke said, some come in through the front door with guns while others come in through the back door with words of peace.
Report Dr Crippen January 12, 2015 7:41 PM GMT
We come in peace - shoot to kill.
Report moisok January 12, 2015 7:45 PM GMT
they will just bide their time - the demographic will have it
read what Mr Ramadan said on the matter in 2008  - he writes for the guardian - he says follow their laws until we have influence then tear the paper up that their laws are written on .   And he fkn writes for the guardain as do one or two other muslims and you wonder why you get this 'don't blame the muslims' propaganda.  Meanwhile extremists are still allowed to broadcast their defence of all the killings right now as was reported in the sunday mirror page 4.  Check out Salim Malik Labour Mp on the matter (not sure if he is now) but he was boasting about the number of mps they were going to get.  All it requires is a decent percentage in the inner cities to get a lot of muslim MPs   - Do you see how it works.  Slowly slowly catchee monkey.
Report rogerthebutler January 12, 2015 7:51 PM GMT
moisok
     10 Jan 15 19:41 


blair and bush went on to war with the blessing of god !!! They were pathetic and dangerous.

On the muslim community sitting on their hands - so have most of the media.  Muslims also write for one of the worst - the guardian so you are hardly going to get balance from them .  Check out the guy ramadan who wrote the other day and what he said about the muslim takeover of the UK
Or the Labour mp  Malik.


I hope Abu Hamza sat om his hands
Report rogerthebutler January 12, 2015 7:55 PM GMT
I think there's way too much generalisation about 'Muslims' and what they believe and how the Koran tells them to do this that and the other.

You can interpret the Bible in all manner of dopey ways. Peter Sutcliffe thought it told him to 'go kill t' prositutes'. Way to go Pete! Same with the Koran.

Who is providing MI 5 / 6 with all the Human Intelligence from within the Muslim Community?
Report moisok January 12, 2015 9:23 PM GMT
you can interpret the bible but you can only do what the koran says.
Hope you get the difference.  Don't lose your head over this rog, but you might in quite a few middle eastern countries.
Report leazes67 January 12, 2015 10:04 PM GMT
this is a must watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owq8TkQ0AXA
Report Velasquez January 12, 2015 11:24 PM GMT
You lot all seem to be experts on the Bible and Koran - without reading either...Laugh
Report rogerthebutler January 13, 2015 9:29 AM GMT
It's a betting group Velasquez!

We're all expert punters - having never read the Form BookGrin
Report Alias January 13, 2015 10:40 AM GMT
It's amazing that the bloke in the street has to look to the right wing parties for protection against the lefties.

Is that a line from Mein Kampf?
Report Alias January 13, 2015 10:43 AM GMT
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They do like to play the race card. muslims are a race?   news to me

Always annoying, that one. Try telling millions of Turks, Albanians etc that they're black.
Report Platini January 13, 2015 2:17 PM GMT
What a fantastic response from Brigitte Gabriel there. Everyone should watch that.
Report sj January 13, 2015 3:34 PM GMT
Indeed slaughtered her
Report Injera January 13, 2015 5:51 PM GMT
Murdoch is right.

Look at the political correctness of the BBC regarding WW2. 'We went to war with the Nazis'

No we didn't !!!! We were at war with GERMANY!!!! Ask any veteran and they will be appalled by this pc garbage.

The 'moderates' in Germany flew the planes, manned the tanks and fired their machine guns.

Fanatics prosper because the 'moderates' comply. Same with Islam. If they can condemn and isolate the fanatics then we'll make progress.

But they have to act now..
Report Mikael D'Haguenet January 13, 2015 5:54 PM GMT
Murdoch should hack the phones of the dead terrorists imo.
Report RickiBobby January 13, 2015 6:18 PM GMT
Murdoch on the money, Muslims need to sort out the devil within, its not just one or two psycho's there's thousands of them.
Some Muslims are trying to sort  it out but most close ranks. You only have to look at the majority of Muslim run countries to see it doesn't work.
  At least there is now a feasible voting option against them and hopefully somewhere down the line drive them back to Muslim countries them or their parents came from.
Report moisok January 13, 2015 6:51 PM GMT
Odd thing up till Paris.
There weren't that many - now suddenly there are thousands
So who has been lying or covering up!!??
Report ebulGery January 14, 2015 3:18 PM GMT
Murdoch is a Jew
if you believe that bloke you are daft

Nobody turns against their own, that is against human nature, the best you can hope for is they do not support them
We upset the Muslims by invading their countries, so it is up to us to sort it out I am afraid

ps
letting them all come and live with us may not have been the best idea either
We got ourselves into this, so I am afraid we have to get ourselves out, nobody is going to do it for us
Report ebulGery January 14, 2015 3:21 PM GMT
I seem to remember Murdoch's media supporting the invasion of Iraq

So if he also supported the intervention in Libya by France to overthrow Gadhafi

then he himself must also be partly responsible for any terrorist response
Report pumphol. January 14, 2015 6:14 PM GMT
ebulGery    14 Jan 15 15:18 
Murdoch is a Jew
if you believe that bloke you are daft


That is the second time you have mentioned his religion, so now are you saying he is daft because he is Jewish ?
Report i_agree_with_nick January 14, 2015 6:29 PM GMT
Many critics of Murdoch say he is Jewish or of Jewish heritage but there appears to be no evidence to support this.

EG - you seem to have this idea that the media is controlled by Jews. Didn't Murdoch recently have a rant about the "Jewish-controlled" press?

Altough, as far as I am aware, only the Star and Express have Jewish ownership and I think Desmond is selling.
Report i_agree_with_nick January 14, 2015 6:33 PM GMT
Oh, and maybe the Jewish Chronicle Plain
Report ebulGery January 14, 2015 11:04 PM GMT
I understood he is Jewish, perhaps I am wrong?????....I am not saying Murdoch is daft, we are for listening to him
Report i_agree_with_nick January 14, 2015 11:08 PM GMT
I understood he is Jewish, perhaps I am wrong?????

That must be a big disappointment for you.
Report ebulGery January 14, 2015 11:14 PM GMT
I refer you back to N.Ireland when the IRA established themselves in the Catholic community.

Catholics did not condemn the IRA, except for  brave few. Why?

1. They would have endangered themselves

2. No motive, the IRA were killing Prods and British troops not Catholics, so they had no motive

It is the same with the Muslims, the same two rules apply.

We must deal with this not the Muslims

ps
Why would I be that nick, I am not anti Semitic
I say it as I see it,
A Jew would have a bias in this situation that is all, because of the situation in Israel/Palestine.
Report ebulGery January 14, 2015 11:20 PM GMT
I condemn the terrorist attack in France

I also condemned France's intervention in Libya( and ours)

But that is only because I condemn violence, I am NOT taking sides

I believe that is the position this country must take, and stop allying ourselves with the USA on this

We also have lots of Muslims we are endangering ourselves needlessly. Let us hope Muslim terrorists do not establish

themselves in this country.
Report pumphol. January 14, 2015 11:30 PM GMT
ebulGery    10 Jan 15 23:28 

Jews hate Muslims and all Arabs


Can you give me a link that says every Jew worldwide hates every Muslim & Arab


Or maybe in hindsight your just come back & tell me you were p!ssed  when you posted that & you may have been exaggerating somewhat.
Report ebulGery January 14, 2015 11:49 PM GMT
The last two posts tell me this is just a Muslim haters thread...they are not worth an answer

A serious mistake to speak sanely on these threads

I am sober
Report pumphol. January 14, 2015 11:55 PM GMT
Because I query a pathetic statement you made you then refuse to give me an answer because you  obviously cant, & any chance  of you speaking sanely as you put it would require a miracle of biblical proportions.
Report lfc1971 January 15, 2015 12:00 AM GMT
It dosn't matter if jews hate muslims or muslims hate jews. In the main I like and agree with the jewish way of life and Israel and dislike and disagree with the muslim way of life and countries...in the main.
Report ebulGery January 15, 2015 12:09 AM GMT
I can't give you an answer pumphol?

How on earth can anyone know at this moment how every Jew in this world feels about Arabs...unless they
some incredible telepathic ability..it is  FECKIN IMPOSSIBLE!

I make observations and draw conclusions..
others either agree or disagree, fair enough.
Report ebulGery January 15, 2015 12:17 AM GMT
My information about Rupert Murdoch being Jewish came from these forums, not the most reliable source
apologies I did not check it, if he is not
Report pumphol. January 15, 2015 12:20 AM GMT
ebulGery    15 Jan 15 00:09 
I can't give you an answer pumphol?

How on earth can anyone know at this moment how every Jew in this world feels about Arabs...unless they
some incredible telepathic ability..it is  FECKIN IMPOSSIBLE!


ebulGery    10 Jan 15 23:28 

Jews hate Muslims and all Arabs



Have you signed up to CA ( Contradictions Anonymous )?
Report ebulGery January 15, 2015 1:36 AM GMT
I did not say all Jews

If you go to Israel that is a fair statement

Jews around the world, I imagine it depends on the person, but in the end Jews must side with Jews

it is how we work
Report Paddy Hair January 15, 2015 2:54 AM GMT
My question which I have asked before whether it is religion or race I don't  know. Lets take the UK as an example could possibly be 5 or 6 other countries.
Countless Jews over 100's of years have come to the UK and not want to change it.
In the 50's and 60's countless Irish and West Indians, my Father amongst them ( you didn't know he was Irish ) came to the UK didn't want to change it.
In the 50's through to present day millions of Indians of various religions have come to the UK and didn't want to change it.
Add to this the Chinese, Poles and other Eastern Europeans and none of them want to change the UK.
Only one religion wants to change things and ironically they have mainly come from a country that allows them to practice these beliefs.
So the question is why leave those countries.
Report ebulGery January 15, 2015 3:34 AM GMT
They come here for economic reasons Paddy

I do not think they want to change us. No one has ever tried to convert me to Islam. They just
demand the right to practice their own religion, which we allow.

Unfortunately one of the tenets of their religions is nobody gets to insult their prophets or the Koran.
I personally think they are wrong in this , because in our society we believe we can insult religions, we insult our
own enough. So they can demand this of their own people but not of ours, but they do.

Our culture and Muslim is so contradictory. I don't know the answer, I just up put my own ideas.
I feel we must be more tolerant of each other, accept our differences, but this case is difficult???????????????????
Report tobermory January 15, 2015 3:45 AM GMT
never had Murdoch as a jewish name !
Report ebulGery January 15, 2015 4:09 AM GMT
http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-entertainment-news-monopoly-murdoch-jew-part4.html

It says on this link Rupert Murdoch's mother was an orthodox Jew
I do not know whether this is true or false
Report i_agree_with_nick January 15, 2015 9:13 AM GMT
Jewwatch.com? Are you serious?
Report 1st time poster January 15, 2015 6:06 PM GMT
i,m a bit slow on this and willing to be put right and learn a bit

farage and loads on here say there is already sharia law in parts of this country amongst muslims,most based on storys theyve heard 2nd hand or down the pub,mate of a mate etc,but lets say they are true,
theres muslims of all different types in this country from all parts of the globe,so if in their own countrys there prepared to fight against,be shot,beheaded to prevent extreme muslims from introducing this way of life, why in the uk where presumably they,d get a lot more help in defeating this way of life would they sit back and let it happen,they might as well have stayed at home
Report charwell. January 16, 2015 11:52 PM GMT
Murdoch is spot on. The Muslim community is eerily silent condemning the actions of terrorist atrocities yet quickly state 'you can't judge us all like this.' Where is the outrage from within the Muslim community? What are the Muslim community doing to de-radicalise extremists or promote peaceful interpretation of the Koran?

I have worked, and have many Muslim friends/colleagues. Never will they condemn terrorist activity; if pushed they will revert to the 'freedom fighters' line. On Facebook they post several links condemning the Jews in Palestine, any article that mentions Mohammed etc etc. Yet not a single post from any of the 7 or 8 Muslims regarding any recent atrocity.

My final proof is this. I test drove a Porsche 911 recently. I posted on Facebook 'I love the 911.' Within hours I had 400 Facebook friend requests from the Muslim community.
Report boxingthefox January 17, 2015 12:17 AM GMT
“In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.” In this case the silence of our multicultural friends, Pakistani's Somali's, etc, et fcking cetra  living here but silently hating us, instead of fcking off back to the ****holes they call home.
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