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A lot more hostages than reported. I counted 12 running out
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Sky now catching up..
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A-Senior Muslim clerics (preferably Sunni)should have demanded to be taken to the hostage sites to ask/command the gunmen to give up or at least let the hostages go.
(A1-The police/authorities should have invited them to do so anyway.) B-Even if it is claimed that this ploy had zero chance of success it would have sent out a strong important message that the gunmen were acting in defiance of 'official Islam'. C-Can anything be read into the fact that senior Muslim religious figures did apparently not make such a gesture ? All I hear are relatively perfunctory declarations of disassociation. |
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take as many close family members as you can find and take them to were they are holding the hostages,send them all in and give them 5 minutes to let the hostages go or they all die
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good points vubiant
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tell you what, Hollande is scheduled to address the nation tonight, he'll be doing it with his **** out
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Potentially a gunman on the loose now? This is all over the place.
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Sent to Calais for reinforcements.
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Montpellier jewellers now under siege
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not much mention of lone wolves today is their.
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I can't recall EVER seeing any "leftie apologists" on the forum at ANY horrific event such as these in France, or 9/11 or 7/7 or Rotherham and the like or murdered hostages or other innocents, or Boko Haram, or ANY others.
Why is there always a "Well, the Guardian/leftie/liberal hand-wringers/etc etc, will find excuses for them"? This never happens. I have yet to see anyone ever try to make excuses for these nutters. I have only ever read of utter contempt and complete anger, yet there are these imaginary 'lefties' who some (let's call them Thatcherites and Blamers) must want to find, to light the place up for them. |
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You want to check out the muslim writers in the guardian today. Yes they are there. Stuggling to make excuses and pouring cold water on the atrocities committed in the name of allah.
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I have never actually read the Guardian.
Is this REALLY what the paper is doing? |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hISqLRi2w28
Good but not graphic view. |
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Newsnight now
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no one ever found guilty of any act terrorism should ever be released.
or anyone found guilty of plotting any act of terror, promoting terrorism, coming back fighting for isis. And stop listening to the bleeding hearts blabbing on about their rights. |
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Does that apply to NI?
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yep applies to any terrorist.
they can even share the same jail and let them fight amongst themselves. |
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Well why did the GB government let terrorists out of jail and ex terrorists rule in government
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why are you comparing the 2? You carnt make an apology for 1 by saying well this is just as bad.
The next time a terrorist has got hostages who has already been arrested for terrorism charges et and been released, what I would do is swop the hostages for members of families of all the blleedin apologists and then see if they still have the same viewpoint. |
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Anti-Semitism rampant throughout France -Jews leaving in droves. Pretty sad scene really.
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None of these extremists should be taken alive. They should be killed on the spot with no mercy.
Sickened me that the two cants that's murdered Lee Rigby were not shot dead at the time. |
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I don't know about that akabula, it's better that they suffer in prison, why give them an easy ride
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I always said that myself but I not so sure they are suffering in prison.
So many 'human rights' now and they have access to stuff that others can't afford. |
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Studyform
Check out a guy called ramadan check out what he said in 2008 about taking over. His latest was printed in the paper yesterday. But there are several more and they get on TV news and are interviewed. You think they are ordinary muslims but turn out to be journalists with their own political agenda. |
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Vubiant 10 Jan 15 00:31
Anti-Semitism rampant throughout France -Jews leaving in droves. Pretty sad scene really. In a poll apparently 16% of French people said that French Jews are not really French Are these people plain stupid or just Anti - Semitic ![]() |
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^ They are Muslims (9%) and right wing knuckle-draggers (5%)
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Amazing footage, you get to see the hostage taker meeting his end.
. http://izismile.com/2015/01/10/footage_of_the_raid_on_hostage_takers_in.html (sorry if it has been posted before) |
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was reading on France 24 that the 4 dead hostages,subject to post mortem confirmation, in Vincennes were killed by this guy on his taking the store
anyhow,see this is the'non censure' version wonder how long b4 it's removed proper cine verite le RAID did a number on him Sly & Arnie would've been proud of |
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we keep hearing about these 500 phone calls between the groups
is that this week this month this year since they met means nothing without the context,ive made 500 calls to the taxmen in my lifetime but we wont be going on a killing spree |
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I think this has been a watershed for Western people.
If we want to criticise your make believe god then that's our problem and not yours. Je Suis Charlie |
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je suis harry kane
1st Time P think the 500 calls were between the wives of the Kouachi bros as i understand it |
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yes and she allegedly went out with one of the brothers and alegedly is in syria so unless the phone calls were this week of no real interest really,if the,ve been on a watch list the security people will obviously no of the connection,
24 hr news is useless most of which sky repeated for 12 hours yesterday was wrong |