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By:
mobo
When: 16 Dec 15 13:31
It's getting closer!!!  or is it just nasty right wing propaganda
Naysayer and the others will all be on to explain how wrong I am.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3361706/Police-Sweden-investigate-chilling-notes-posted-letterboxes-country.html
By:
mobo
When: 16 Dec 15 13:33
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/12/16/rotherham-witness-says-police-covered-abuse-muslim-men/
By:
Injera
When: 16 Dec 15 15:16
Both links horrific Mobo.

Can't find them on BBC or Sky....

Talking of the Beeb I notice on their website this morning they had 3 (three) different stories about Trump.

What a bunch of ****s they are.
By:
naydam
When: 16 Dec 15 15:23
Mobo, is Naysayer supposed to be me? If so, you have the name wrong. If not, please excuse me for asking.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 17 Dec 15 16:56
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/627605/Calais-migrant-crisis-armed-refugees-Britain-UK-Channel-Tunnel
By:
mobo
When: 17 Dec 15 18:05
Naysayer doesn't get it does he?  Und there woz me thinking he was a clever chappie.

one for the book from our dear allies

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/627602/Saudi-Arabia-orders-execution-teenager
By:
johnizere
When: 17 Dec 15 18:11
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/protest-against-dutch-center-for-asylum-seekers-turns-into-riot/ar-BBnDLK5?ocid=mailsignoutmd

this was yesterday... bbc or sky yet to mention it.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 17 Dec 15 19:29
Refugee children face prosecution for the bestial murder of a transvestite – with a dead snake around his neck



Published: 16 December 2015, at 20.00
from FriaTider

The gay man was found murdered while wearing women’s clothing and with a dead snake around his neck in his apartment. Arab immigrants, claiming to be 16 years of age, have now been prosecuted suspected of a hate crime.

According to the indictment a 16-year-old — together with another 19-year-old, refugee children – got invited to the 56-year-old transvestite’s apartment in Bergsjon in Gothenborg on June 25.

The gay man was severely beaten with various objects. When the corpse was found a dead snake was secured around his neck.

A mobile video from the event, which will be used as evidence, shows how the 16-year-old packs the belongings of victim in a backpack inside the apartment. He can also be heard shouting invective against the man with allusions to his sexual orientation.

There is also DNA evidence linking the suspect to the murder weapon and the killed snake.

According to the Prosecutor, the incident was a bestially and a hate crime motivated crime.

– “He had beaten him and killed him out of his life just because he was gay and dressed as a woman,” said Prosecutor Lotta N to the GT.

The accused 16-year-old first denied everything in the interrogation. Then he told me that the “woman” had come up to him on the street and offered to help him with food and clothes. When they came to the apartment the “woman” took off his wig and made sexual advances, according to the accused, who claims he acted in self-defence.

The 19-year-old refugee child and collaborator is prosecuted for serious protection of criminals [obstruction of justice]. Both are originally from North Africa.
By:
mobo
When: 17 Dec 15 20:41
no one tripped up and impaled themselves  or impaled him then???
By:
boxingthefox
When: 17 Dec 15 20:44
No, there were no unintended penetrations of any kind, apparently!! Crazy.
By:
naydam
When: 17 Dec 15 22:45
Always the definitive proof.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 18 Dec 15 13:13
"Brotherhood supporters have “played an important role in establishing and then running” the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), a group of more than 500 Islamic organisations that is often deferred to the voice of mainstream Islam in Britain, finally recognising what those in the UK counter-terrorism community have been warning about for many years."
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http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/12/18/muslim-council-britain-secret-links-muslim-brotherhood/
By:
mobo
When: 19 Dec 15 13:35
Muslim parliament of great britain I do believe.  Until they changed it.  Takeover city man!!!
By:
AFTERTHOUGHT
When: 19 Dec 15 20:13
I say we let them instigate Shari'a law, that will scare 90% of them out of the country (I suggest they go visit Herr Merkel), that leaves just 10% to round up and kick out.
By:
mobo
When: 19 Dec 15 20:26
this is the problem with muslims
all those deaths and yet the whingers are out in force and the legal scum as well

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/627977/Paris-attacks-French-Muslims-legal-challenge-police-raids-house-arrest

a gay man in sweden was  slaughtered by muslims - just saying - this is what you import into your country an alien culture and political movement
By:
mobo
When: 19 Dec 15 20:30
It all comes from their book and false prophet

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/628084/ISIS-Islamic-State-Terror-Yazidi-women-girls-sex-slaves-Iraq-Syria-Terror-Video-Daesh
By:
AFTERTHOUGHT
When: 19 Dec 15 20:40
Muslims are allowed to deceive nom-Muslims if it helps Islam, this principle is called 'Taqiya'. Whilst most other religions speak of truthfulness the Qur'an instructs Muslims to lie to non-Muslims about their beliefs and political ambitions to protect and spread Islam. There are many instances of so called Islamic leaders saying one thing in English for the western press and saying something completely different to their own followers in Arabic later.

Deceiving the enemy is always useful in war, and Islam is at war with the non-Islamic world until the whole world follows Shari’a law. All non-Muslims living in non-Islamic states are therefore enemies, so deceiving westerners is totally acceptable, even encouraged if it can forward the goal of the spread of Islam.

Muslim organisations worldwide often refer to Islam as the religion of peace, this is not written in the Qur'an, on the contrary the Qur'an is full of instructions to murder. So what does a religion of peace really mean if it were true – it means it is easy for a Muslim to quote you a peaceful verse from the ‘early’ parts of the Quran while following the principle of ‘Taqiya’ neglecting to mention the fact that is has been officially abrogated (abolished by formal or official means) by later or more violent verses.

" And so it is written"
By:
AFTERTHOUGHT
When: 19 Dec 15 21:24
Any Imams on here to defend this (sorry no gambling I forgot, I thought all forums had Islamic watchers wlling to defend the prophets teachings)

India: Muslim accused of sexually assaulting 4-year-old girl blames her for enticing him.

This is in accord with the Muslim belief that anytime a sexual sin, crime, or indiscretion is committed, it is the woman’s fault.
This is why Islamic law mandates that women must cover everything except their face and hands, and some cover their faces as well:
If a man attacks a woman, it is the woman’s fault for enticing him, and she will be punished.

Hyderabad: A 46-year-old Hyderabad man accused of sexually assaulting a four-year-old girl in his home has blamed the child for the crime.
The sexual predator, who has been arrested and identified as Mohammad Akram Khan, claims that the girl had approached him and came close to him.

But later he said that he had made a mistake and should be pardoned. The incident caught on CCTV camera installed in his house came to light after a technician was taking a backup of the the footage and saw the horrific act and informed the police about it.

The police filed a suo moto case after observing the CCTV footage and arrested the accused Mohammad Akram Khan.The accused used to sexually abuse the four-year-old girl at his residence situated at Chunne ki Bati, Jahnuma….
By:
mobo
When: 19 Dec 15 21:34
they sure love 'em young - after all - there so called leader enjoyed it - so they follow his example
By:
mobo
When: 19 Dec 15 21:44
best bit is this lot are allies???  and they are mainstream ???

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/al-jazeera-block-article-slamming-saudi-arabian-human-rights-record-a6779596.html
By:
AFTERTHOUGHT
When: 19 Dec 15 23:39
Primitive violent people, Primitive violent culture, Primitive violent religion (actually more an ideology than a religion)........
By:
naydam
When: 20 Dec 15 02:36
What we need is a great big melting pot. Different strokes, some of these ideologies. Variety is the spice of life.

I don't know anything about Islam...but I'm darned sure that I won't be gleaning my knowledge from any of our more obsessive posters.

It can't be all that bad...plenty of people think its alright. There are examples of good and bad in all walks of life, so I've heard.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 20 Dec 15 08:36
What we need is the total opposite, we need a great big melting pot where religion is put back in the dark ages where it belongs, people who believe in a fictional character are perverse.
By:
mobo
When: 20 Dec 15 13:35
naysayer the defender of an odious culture and political movement

you need to open your eyes and ears to understand what they are up to
By:
AFTERTHOUGHT
When: 20 Dec 15 13:41
An interesting concept which I believe is taking a while to implement into Islam is 'Farewell Intercourse', I'll say no more and let you check it out.
Of course it might just be propaganda or Internet myth but it certainly would fit in with everything else Islam promotes and permits.

Many people are ignorant of Islamic concepts, I too was in the dark, I am anti every religion but as I see this specific Religion as a threat to my own and families safety I tried to understand what all the fuss was about.

It's quite scary when you start digging (ignore mainstream media). There are too many people in this country with an it'll be alright attitude toward Islam and its philosophy, you can buy a Qur'an for a fiver, read it on line, download it or pop along to the nearest Mosque where they will give you a copy for free and tell all you want to know.

Unless you already follow Islam then keep your guard up as you are 'Kaffir' and if you do not accept Allah as your God and follow the teachings of Mohammed you must be killed - In Biological terms and depending on your beliefs you may well be classed as an endangered species.

Politicians are giving you the Melting pot you desire, we are in meltdown but nothing is mixing, Multiculturism does not work, Immigrants do not integrate, mass immigration just leads to Ghettos and no go areas within national boundaries and all European countries will soon be majority Muslim due to their high birth rate.

Have a look where being 'nice' has got Sweden, they are in deep **** and soon to be a predominantly Muslim country, it's a race between Sweden, Holland and Brussels as to which of them has the first amputation or beheading under Shari'a law.

Debating the existence of God is pointless, it does not matter whether he exists or not. Everybody’s right and Everybody’s wrong and if it was all nonsense then it would be harmless but it is not, it is dangerous nonsense especially when religion is used to take away your Freedom.

Religious indoctrination strips people of their individuality, turns them into obedient, soul dead, conformist cultists - I think that sums up Islam nicely.

Don't listen to Liberals, Apologists or Career Politically correct Politicians who tell you it's a minority of Muslims causing the trouble. There is no such thing as Radical Islam or Moderate Islam, Islam is Islam just like you can never be a little bit pregnant.

Everything they do is because it is written and commanded by Mohammed. Radical Muslims control so called Moderate Muslims by fear, if a Muslim does not follow the teachings of the Qura'n, Hadith and Surah then they are not a Muslim and will be dealt with accordingly. A radical Muslim will cut your head off, a moderate Muslim wants a radical Muslim to cut your head off.

You should read some articles by Nicolai Sennels (Prison Psychologist who worked in a Danish youth prisons where 70% of the inmates were Muslims), and others about European countries suffering under the influence of Islam. Islam is tolerated by Politicians because it is the prominent religion in all Oil producing Middle East countries, you only have to look at the USA's cosy relationship with Saudi Arabi (Wahhabi Islam).

You will be told that moderate Muslims condemn the actions of the Radicals, if we take the recent Paris attack as an example it is irrelevant how many Muslims condemn the actions of the so called minority, what Muslims have to condemn is what is written in their own holy book, they have to condemn the 'Teachings' of the prophet Mohammed in the Qur'an, Hadith and Surah - the very core of their faith.
By:
naydam
When: 20 Dec 15 13:58
Mobo. A naysayer might well fit your description...but who are you referring to? It makes your comments difficult to follow and impossible to respond to.
It would help if you could refrain from the use of 'pet' names. Then we all know who you mean.

Take, for example, one of your recent posts: You said "Naysayer doesn't get it, does he?" That's a bit difficult to understand. Who is Naysyer and what doesn't he 'get'? Is it a secret?
I thought that you might mean me (slight similarity in name) so I asked. You didn't respond so I assumed I was mistaken, but you still didn't clarify the point.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 20 Dec 15 14:24
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By:
guinness2dear
When: 20 Dec 15 14:38
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By:
mobo
When: 20 Dec 15 16:10
You still don't get it do you naysayer.  You and your apologist friends who try to explain away the violent intent of this quasi religio-politco movement are nearly as dangerous as the the sect itself by adopting a liberal open door approach.  You don't understand the damage you and others do and help to give the organisation its freedom to expand and establish itself in a postion of hegemony.
By:
Burton-Brewers
When: 20 Dec 15 16:38
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By:
Injera
When: 20 Dec 15 17:16
TBF to the lad, his spelling is impeccable wich is more than can be zaid for myne.
By:
mobo
When: 20 Dec 15 17:30
anyone come across ed husain  an ex extremist now involved in various organisations

just on ch4 news - he has not got good news for naysayer and anxious

he argues that the salafist ideology and caliphate is deeply imbeded in most of the middle east and we will be fighting
a whole host of groups even when daesh are eliminated!!!
By:
mobo
When: 20 Dec 15 17:55
And it continues

When are we going to anything about these threats to our society.  I think it is too late.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/nicky-morgan-orders-review-on-home-schooling-amid-fears-children-having-minds-poisoned-by-a6779886.html
By:
mobo
When: 20 Dec 15 18:17
Just more info to back up other comments I have made. 

would love to see naysayer and anxious's refutation of the creep of the ideology throughout britain

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2014/06/who-runs-our-mosques/
By:
mobo
When: 20 Dec 15 19:24
NOTE - PARTICULARLY ACTIVE IN THE UK

Hizb ut-Tahrir (Arabic: حزب التحرير‎ Ḥizb at-Taḥrīr; Party of Liberation) is an international pan-Islamic political organisation. They are commonly associated with the goal of all Muslim countries unifying as an Islamic state or caliphate ruled by Islamic law (sharia) and with a caliph head of state elected by Muslims.[1][2]

The organization was founded in 1953 as a Sunni Muslim organization in Jerusalem by Taqiuddin al-Nabhani, an Islamic scholar and appeals court judge (Qadi)[3] from the Palestinian village of Ijzim. Since then Hizb ut-Tahrir has spread to more than 50 countries and by one estimate has about one million members.[4] Hizb ut-Tahrir is very active in the West, particularly in the United Kingdom, and is also active in several Arab and Central Asian countries, despite being banned by some governments. The group also has a growing presence in North America, known as Hizb ut-tahrir America, or HTA.

Hizb ut-Tahrir believes the re-establishment of caliphate would provide stability and security to both Muslims and non-Muslims in the predominantly Muslim regions of the world.[5] The party promotes a detailed program for institution of a caliphate that would establish Shariah and carry "the Da'wah of Islam" to the world.[6][7][8] Hizb ut-Tahrir is also strongly anti-Zionist and calls for the State of Israel, which it calls an "illegal entity", to be dismantled.[9]
By:
mememe
When: 20 Dec 15 20:05
Don't know what the predominant mussie sect is in the UK at the moment, but authorities should import some of the other sects.
Then they will go round killing each other and leave us alone.  Eventually there'll only be a few left in Luton and I'm sure we can handle them.
Trouble is with my plan, we're going to need hell of a lot of virgins!
By:
boxingthefox
When: 20 Dec 15 20:08
"we're going to need hell of a lot of virgins!".......................so we're fcked then. Laugh
By:
mobo
When: 20 Dec 15 22:21
But you can buy new hymens on line!!!!
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 20 Dec 15 22:42
A non bbc link.

Hyderabad: A 46-year-old Hyderabad man accused of sexually assaulting a four-year-old girl in his home has blamed the child for the crime. The sexual predator, who has been arrested and identified as Mohammad Akram Khan, claims that the girl had approached him and came close to him.

But later he said that he had made a mistake and should be pardoned. The incident caught on CCTV camera installed in his house came to light after a technician was taking a backup of the the footage and saw the horrific act and informed the police about it.

The police filed a suo moto case after observing the CCTV footage and arrested the accused Mohammad Akram Khan.

The accused used to sexually abuse the four-year-old girl at his residence situated at Chunne ki Bati, Jahnuma.

A case has been registered at Police Station Shah Ali Banda under Section 377 IPC, 363 IPC, 366 IPC, 419 IPC, 534 (A)(1) (i) of Nirbhaya Act and Section 5 R/w 6 of Protection of Children from Sexual Offences(POCSO) Act.
By:
mobo
When: 20 Dec 15 23:48
If you are a woman on your own don't sit in the front with a muslim taxi driver and don't even mention dogs.
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