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08 Jan 15
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I quote from tonights edition of Question Time read out by Dimbleby:
The Prophet Mohammed must not be represented in any shape or form.
Well they certainly kept that one quiet. Craven cowards. They certainly don't mind showing programmes representing or indeed taking the mick out of pretty much all other religions. Islam? Well of course not.
Thanks gents. With any luck that'll be another five percent on UKIP's vote at the next election if this is picked up and reported in its full glory by our equally craven print media.
We shall see.
The Prophet Mohammed must not be represented in any shape or form.
Well they certainly kept that one quiet. Craven cowards. They certainly don't mind showing programmes representing or indeed taking the mick out of pretty much all other religions. Islam? Well of course not.
Thanks gents. With any luck that'll be another five percent on UKIP's vote at the next election if this is picked up and reported in its full glory by our equally craven print media.
We shall see.
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akabula
09 Jan 15 00:57
Clouseau
I remember Aberfan well, Akabula, and the shock of it throughout the country.
I remember it as well.
Did you ever read what the National Coal Board did with the donations from the public that were meant for families?
What a bunch of coonts.
09 Jan 15 00:57
Clouseau
I remember Aberfan well, Akabula, and the shock of it throughout the country.
I remember it as well.
Did you ever read what the National Coal Board did with the donations from the public that were meant for families?
What a bunch of coonts.
MORE human?
More human than what -- the LESSER human standing beside him?
Gee, Aristotle, eh...?
More human than what -- the LESSER human standing beside him?
Gee, Aristotle, eh...?
lfc1971 - U a disciple?
Disciple of Dobbo...Son of Dobbo...Apprentice of Dobbohood...
Disciple of Dobbo...Son of Dobbo...Apprentice of Dobbohood...
Like he existed in the same way as Jesus existed as a flesh and blood man not as a holy ghost,like, not as a zombie risen from the dead, like.
Just take a minute to imagine what its like to hear these fictions and fantasies being spread like influenza without a shred,a single shred, of empirical evidence. Why should any single part of my life be affected because of your fantasies?
Cue cleverdickery.
Just take a minute to imagine what its like to hear these fictions and fantasies being spread like influenza without a shred,a single shred, of empirical evidence. Why should any single part of my life be affected because of your fantasies?
Cue cleverdickery.
lfc1971 - What kind of username is that? Have you envisaged a universe without Kenny Dalglish! 
That reading between the lines sounds too difficult for me - like some form of human CLEVERDICKERY.
That reading between the lines sounds too difficult for me - like some form of human CLEVERDICKERY.
religion is a virus of your mind (no fkers trying to cure it)
alzhemers is a disease of your mind ( the fkers are spending billions on it)
which one has caused the most deaths to humanity
alzhemers is a disease of your mind ( the fkers are spending billions on it)
which one has caused the most deaths to humanity
Dobbo - am I trying to IMPOSE upon you in some way? You sound most insistent and offended.........ya rotten fecker.
call me a taxi
Did you ever read what the National Coal Board did with the donations from the public that were meant for families?
What a bunch of coonts.
I didn't know there was a controversy Taxi but looked it up in response to what you said.
They used some of the cash to get rid of other coal tips rather than their own funds.
That's beyond disgraceful.
Did you ever read what the National Coal Board did with the donations from the public that were meant for families?
What a bunch of coonts.
I didn't know there was a controversy Taxi but looked it up in response to what you said.
They used some of the cash to get rid of other coal tips rather than their own funds.
That's beyond disgraceful.
It is a constant struggle to escape from other people and their overwhelming will.
Napoleon...Stalin...Hitler...Ghenghis Khan...Mao...Pol Pot...religion, eh?
"It is a constant struggle to escape from other people and their overwhelming will."
"Hell is other people." Sartre.
"Hell is other people." Sartre.
I think you've put that little rebellion to bed Vel'.
"Life would be wonderful if only we didn't have to share it" J.D. Salinger
Fookin' 'eck - I am amongst Trappist monks and desert saints here...they all want to be alone...like Garbo! 
Kenny -- UP the Rebels! Come on you Bhoys in green!
Kenny -- UP the Rebels! Come on you Bhoys in green!
I.m no rebel Vel', I just stole a line from Blackadder. 
Vel its not all about you,none of it is, and its not all about faith, but some of it is.
My sympathy is with the poor fckers who were gunned down in the name of some bullshit or other so do me a favour and give the smart alec replies a holiday.
My sympathy is with the poor fckers who were gunned down in the name of some bullshit or other so do me a favour and give the smart alec replies a holiday.
Goodnight, thank you and may your god go with you as the late great Dave Allen used to say.
No my friend, for that would make an end of Satire, would it not? And that would be a form of censorship, would it not?
Would it not?
Would it not?
Tangerine Touché, Tommy Toes.
Hey, Tommy, that was a nice French touch you did there.....I'm saying goodbye with a recommendation for the quite cryptic French scientist - and gambler - Blaise Pascal ; get a hold of PENSEES (Thoughts) by Blaise Pascal if you want a true insight into "Islam". The French adore Pascal...see "My Night With Maude." (Film).
Good night people...note : NOT "God bless" as I ain't much for religious phrases and all...unlike Aka and Dave Allen...still suspect Aka is a M*S*N...
Hey, Tommy, that was a nice French touch you did there.....I'm saying goodbye with a recommendation for the quite cryptic French scientist - and gambler - Blaise Pascal ; get a hold of PENSEES (Thoughts) by Blaise Pascal if you want a true insight into "Islam". The French adore Pascal...see "My Night With Maude." (Film).
Good night people...note : NOT "God bless" as I ain't much for religious phrases and all...unlike Aka and Dave Allen...still suspect Aka is a M*S*N...
Haha! The accent nearly broke my keyboard, Vel, as my 'Alt Gr' is still blocked up with cup-a-soup from about 3 years ago!
Good night to you too mon ami!
Good night to you too mon ami!
Goodnight Tommy - check the FERMENTED VEG thread...I'll have to stop now as I'M LAUGHING AT MY OWN JOKES...first sign of...a comedian going into profit...! ££$££%%$$
Was tempted to write "prophet" there, but I managed to resist as I don't work for the BBC.
By the way, all you anti-religious types - sorry to use that phrase - did you happen to notice that the French nation gathered around Notre Dame cathedral today, and the bells of the cathedral sounded?
Just in case you failed to notice. My apologies if you did.
By the way, all you anti-religious types - sorry to use that phrase
- did you happen to notice that the French nation gathered around Notre Dame cathedral today, and the bells of the cathedral sounded?Just in case you failed to notice. My apologies if you did.
Velasquez
09 Jan 15 00:38
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Aka - I like you more every day.
Wait until he accuses you of "bricking" people's windows.
Still, the Aberfan thing resonates. I recall, a few weeks I think after the Dunblane massacre, there was a memorial service in the school. It was live on radio and I caught it while driving home, in time to hear some cleric announce that "God was here that day", in reference to the mass shootings perpetrated by Thomas Hamilton. My first thought was, well if that's true, the Devil must have got there first. Then you think, if I'd been a parent of one of the kids blown away by the nutter, I'd have wanted to punch said cleric. "God was here that day". Just empty, vacant words.
09 Jan 15 00:38
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Aka - I like you more every day.
Wait until he accuses you of "bricking" people's windows.
Still, the Aberfan thing resonates. I recall, a few weeks I think after the Dunblane massacre, there was a memorial service in the school. It was live on radio and I caught it while driving home, in time to hear some cleric announce that "God was here that day", in reference to the mass shootings perpetrated by Thomas Hamilton. My first thought was, well if that's true, the Devil must have got there first. Then you think, if I'd been a parent of one of the kids blown away by the nutter, I'd have wanted to punch said cleric. "God was here that day". Just empty, vacant words.
A local radio presenter received a request for the song 'Abdul Abulbul Amir', which contains the line;
' The sons of the Prophet are brave men & bold...'
He checked with his producer & decided not to play it.
Instead he played 'The Sun Has Got It's Hat On'.
Unfortunately, the version he played contained the line;
'He's been tanning n1ggers, out in Timbuctoo.'
He was sacked, although he was offered his job back.
http://www.westbriton.co.uk/BBC-Radio-Cornwall-presenter-David-Lowe-forced/story-21083825-detail/story.html
' The sons of the Prophet are brave men & bold...'
He checked with his producer & decided not to play it.
Instead he played 'The Sun Has Got It's Hat On'.
Unfortunately, the version he played contained the line;
'He's been tanning n1ggers, out in Timbuctoo.'
He was sacked, although he was offered his job back.
http://www.westbriton.co.uk/BBC-Radio-Cornwall-presenter-David-Lowe-forced/story-21083825-detail/story.html
I've met a few Jesus freaks, mostly nice well meaning people but this Velasquez seems more concerned with trying to prove how intelectually superior he is to the non believers. Not a good advert for JC IMO.
Vela's always on the Domestos when the flat seasons over....
"I've met a few Jesus freaks, mostly nice well meaning people but this Velasquez seems more concerned with trying to prove how intelectually superior he is to the non believers. Not a good advert for JC IMO. "
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"...intelectually..."
I don't have much to prove, do I?
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"...intelectually..."
I don't have much to prove, do I?
The two people whose images are not allowed to be shown on the BBC: "The Prophet" Mohammed and Jimmy Savile.
Then again, perhaps I do! 
For those of you who just post about "religion" and never think it a worthy endeavour to consider the merest difference between Mohammedanism and Christianity, then consider this:
a) It's forbidden in "Islam" to depict Mohammed...
b) If you walk into any major museum of the West - the Prado, the National Gallery in London, etc. - you will be assailed by images of Jesus Christ...paintings by Caravaggio, Velazquez, Michelangelo, Raphael, Rembrandt and so on...and MY GOD...it's ABSOLUTELY beautiful and thrilling ; perhaps even "P1ss Christ" by Andres Serrano.
Here in Glasgow, we have the big Salvador Dali painting.
There you are - all the way from A to B - just like Dobbo!
Thin and Crispy - I too have met a few "Jesus freaks..."
and I just think it's utterly WONDROUS that you have passed some sort of moral judgement upon me - even if it's only at the level of being "nice" or NOT "nice" as the case may be. Please try harder. Ratchet it up a bit. You know you can.
And to think I used to be the good cop to Orioles' bad cop...
Jeez, I...I kinda hate to be be called NOT nice...it's so.......EXCORIATING!!
Yet ELECTRIFYING nonetheless!
T&C -- by all means LET ME KNOW if all these emoticons and exclamation marks are BOTHERING you!
So that I can post more of them in an increasingly irrelevant manner! 
Until I eventually grow weary and stop! 
For those of you who just post about "religion" and never think it a worthy endeavour to consider the merest difference between Mohammedanism and Christianity, then consider this:
a) It's forbidden in "Islam" to depict Mohammed...
b) If you walk into any major museum of the West - the Prado, the National Gallery in London, etc. - you will be assailed by images of Jesus Christ...paintings by Caravaggio, Velazquez, Michelangelo, Raphael, Rembrandt and so on...and MY GOD
...it's ABSOLUTELY beautiful and thrilling ; perhaps even "P1ss Christ" by Andres Serrano.Here in Glasgow, we have the big Salvador Dali painting.
There you are - all the way from A to B - just like Dobbo!
Thin and Crispy - I too have met a few "Jesus freaks..."
and I just think it's utterly WONDROUS that you have passed some sort of moral judgement upon me - even if it's only at the level of being "nice" or NOT "nice" as the case may be. Please try harder. Ratchet it up a bit. You know you can.And to think I used to be the good cop to Orioles' bad cop...
Jeez, I...I kinda hate to be be called NOT nice...it's so.......EXCORIATING!!
Yet ELECTRIFYING nonetheless!
T&C -- by all means LET ME KNOW if all these emoticons and exclamation marks are BOTHERING you!
So that I can post more of them in an increasingly irrelevant manner! Until I eventually grow weary and stop!
Thanks for the best post on this here thread, Sultan - you've said it all.
I could have stayed in the pub this afternoon.
Though I can't help feeling that someone with such a fabeaux Username must have something to say about........(drum roll).........FERMENTED veg!!!!!
I could have stayed in the pub this afternoon.
Though I can't help feeling that someone with such a fabeaux Username must have something to say about........(drum roll).........FERMENTED veg!!!!!
Yes, I could have stayed in the King Billy and Fermented Duck this afternoon, playing dominoes and drinking Domestos...
Criticism of "religious nutjobs", "Jesus Freaks", etc...
a) They are THICK and DUMB.
b) They are too INTELLECTUALLY RIGOROUS.
Ker-chiiiiinnnggggg!
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Or should that be "intelectually" rigorous? Mate, you are being "crucified" in the Age of Spellchecker - it's not nice - I'm tempted to feck up my own spelling and grammar just to relieve the pressure!
a) They are THICK and DUMB.
b) They are too INTELLECTUALLY RIGOROUS.
Ker-chiiiiinnnggggg!
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Or should that be "intelectually" rigorous?
Mate, you are being "crucified" in the Age of Spellchecker - it's not nice - I'm tempted to feck up my own spelling and grammar just to relieve the pressure!
More importantly what are the guidelines of any of the media on reporting anything about muslims?? I think we know the answer to that.
The Guardian only reports good things about them.
CMAT - Does The Guardian have a COMMENTS section where people can post their diverse opinions and views, etc?
(LEADING QUESTION ALERT)
(LEADING QUESTION ALERT)
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Velasquez
10 Jan 15 17:23
CMAT - Does The Guardian have a COMMENTS section where people can post their diverse opinions and views, etc?
The comment boxes usually always remain closed for muslim related bad news.
The last news (the last time I looked) about a month ago, concerning the Rotherham Abuse, was over 6 months a months ago.
They've probably decided not to print any more as it doesn't suit their agenda.
Mind you, if Nigel Farage farts, they do a full pager spread on it.
10 Jan 15 17:23
CMAT - Does The Guardian have a COMMENTS section where people can post their diverse opinions and views, etc?
The comment boxes usually always remain closed for muslim related bad news.
The last news (the last time I looked) about a month ago, concerning the Rotherham Abuse, was over 6 months a months ago.
They've probably decided not to print any more as it doesn't suit their agenda.
Mind you, if Nigel Farage farts, they do a full pager spread on it.
Did the people who make up this "guidance" ever watch Family Guy (shown everyday of the year on BBC) or American Dad?
They might be shocked at the ridicule of Islam in those shows.
They might be shocked at the ridicule of Islam in those shows.
Helissio - can I ask you a personal question? Are you in any way, shape or form a bit p1ssed off at the way Helissio has been forgotten, like Sagace and Trempolino and Peintre Celebre...like Generous and St.Jovite...it's all Frankel THIS and Frankel THAT 'til the end of Time now...
1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
- King James Bible "Authorized Version", Cambridge Edition
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
- King James Bible "Authorized Version", Cambridge Edition
Authorized...RP Trophy......was about 70 on here that day...
...was about 70 on here that day...
As far as I know pictures or depictions of Mohammed are banned by the moslem religion. They are not allowed. The same harsh punishments would apply to ANYBODY who created images of Mohammed...whether they be Christian, Moslem, Hindu, Agnostic or whatever. You are not allowed to do this. It is NOT some minor point about 'can't take a joke' or 'no sense of humour'. It is totally against the Islamic religion.
There are plenty of pictures, sculptures and cartoons of Jesus because they are NOT banned by Christianity...but there are NO images of Mohammed ANYWHERE. Not even in Iran. In fact, especially not in Iran!
I've no doubt that they have a specific term for this forbidding, but I have no idea what that might be.
As usual, I could be totally wrong...but not deliberately so.
There are plenty of pictures, sculptures and cartoons of Jesus because they are NOT banned by Christianity...but there are NO images of Mohammed ANYWHERE. Not even in Iran. In fact, especially not in Iran!
I've no doubt that they have a specific term for this forbidding, but I have no idea what that might be.
As usual, I could be totally wrong...but not deliberately so.
CUE : "I only came here for a bet 'n' a babble after a hard day's graft and these God-botherers AKA Jesus Monkey-freaks are rippin' the joint up with the bible bashin'...!"
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Hey...eh...just thinkin', like...it's not so NICE to call yer fellow Yuman Bein' a FREAK...!
How come we don't get this kind of bovver on the FERMENTED VEG thread??
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Hey...eh...just thinkin', like...it's not so NICE to call yer fellow Yuman Bein' a FREAK...!
How come we don't get this kind of bovver on the FERMENTED VEG thread??
Just as a matter of A-Logic :
If we type the word MOHAMMED...it is, by definition, a PICTURE and a DEPICTION...of MOHAMMED...artists like Ian Hamilton Finlay, Barbara Kruger and Rene Magritte based their works on this idea -
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/MagrittePipe.jpg
(THIS IS NOT A PIPE).
If we type the word MOHAMMED...it is, by definition, a PICTURE and a DEPICTION...of MOHAMMED...artists like Ian Hamilton Finlay, Barbara Kruger and Rene Magritte based their works on this idea -
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/MagrittePipe.jpg
(THIS IS NOT A PIPE).
no pictures available because he's always got his kn0b out on them
but there are NO images of Mohammed ANYWHERE. Not even in Iran. In fact, especially not in Iran!
No there are depctions of Mohammed in Iran . Shia muslims not so touchy about it
No there are depctions of Mohammed in Iran . Shia muslims not so touchy about it
Thank you, Tobermory. I was hoping somebody could confirm or disprove. Not a religion that I know much about. (One of many!)
It is such a silly religion but then they all are but maybe a bit sillier that the silly religions. And very dangerous.
1 Corinthians 2:14
The nonspiritual self, just as it is by nature, can’t receive the gifts of God’s Spirit. There’s no capacity for them. They seem like so much silliness.
Spirit can be known only by spirit—God’s Spirit and our spirits in open communion. Spiritually alive, we have access to everything God’s Spirit is doing, and can’t be judged by nonspiritual critics. Isaiah’s question, “Is there anyone around who knows God’s Spirit, anyone who knows what he is doing?” has been answered: Christ knows, and we have Christ’s Spirit.
The nonspiritual self, just as it is by nature, can’t receive the gifts of God’s Spirit. There’s no capacity for them. They seem like so much silliness.
Spirit can be known only by spirit—God’s Spirit and our spirits in open communion. Spiritually alive, we have access to everything God’s Spirit is doing, and can’t be judged by nonspiritual critics. Isaiah’s question, “Is there anyone around who knows God’s Spirit, anyone who knows what he is doing?” has been answered: Christ knows, and we have Christ’s Spirit.
Jan 10, 2015 -- 6:07PM, Velasquez wrote:
Helissio - can I ask you a personal question? Are you in any way, shape or form a bit p1ssed off at the way Helissio has been forgotten, like Sagace and Trempolino and Peintre Celebre...like Generous and St.Jovite...it's all Frankel THIS and Frankel THAT 'til the end of Time now...
Yes. Yes I am. Everyone knows the Arc is the most important race on the planet! :-)
The most important race on the planet are asians...
Alias
Still, the Aberfan thing resonates. I recall, a few weeks I think after the Dunblane massacre, there was a memorial service in the school. It was live on radio and I caught it while driving home, in time to hear some cleric announce that "God was here that day", in reference to the mass shootings perpetrated by Thomas Hamilton. My first thought was, well if that's true, the Devil must have got there first. Then you think, if I'd been a parent of one of the kids blown away by the nutter, I'd have wanted to punch said cleric. "God was here that day". Just empty, vacant words.
For once I'm in total agreement with you Alias. I saw someone on TV being interviewed and they asked a minister "Where was God that Day?" He was devoid of a proper answer and started responding with "Well I know how you feel like that but ...." And the other person cut him off by saying again "Where was he?" He waffled on about how it must seem but blah blah blah.
And that's the point. We are told that everything that happens is Gods will, but it just doesn't make any sense.
Still, the Aberfan thing resonates. I recall, a few weeks I think after the Dunblane massacre, there was a memorial service in the school. It was live on radio and I caught it while driving home, in time to hear some cleric announce that "God was here that day", in reference to the mass shootings perpetrated by Thomas Hamilton. My first thought was, well if that's true, the Devil must have got there first. Then you think, if I'd been a parent of one of the kids blown away by the nutter, I'd have wanted to punch said cleric. "God was here that day". Just empty, vacant words.
For once I'm in total agreement with you Alias. I saw someone on TV being interviewed and they asked a minister "Where was God that Day?" He was devoid of a proper answer and started responding with "Well I know how you feel like that but ...." And the other person cut him off by saying again "Where was he?" He waffled on about how it must seem but blah blah blah.
And that's the point. We are told that everything that happens is Gods will, but it just doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, and Frankel didn't even win at a mile and a half. Didn't run in the Derby, didn't run in the Arc.
About as good as Spectacular Bid IMO, at any distance up to a mile and a quarter.
Even El Gran Senor won a classic at 1 1/2 miles.
About as good as Spectacular Bid IMO, at any distance up to a mile and a quarter.
Even El Gran Senor won a classic at 1 1/2 miles.
Aka - NOT everything that happens is God's will - you see this in the book of Jonah, Daniel, Job, etc. Muslims believe in "Fate" as was depicted in the film "Laurence of Arabia"...Allah's will is inscrutable and ultimately unknowable.
See "Laurence of Arabia." - "It is written..." etc. as an illustration of this.
Even in the early parts of the Bible, the prophets argue with God and appeal to God. They seek to change God's mind...
Who paid for the mines to be dug? Who dug the mines? Who built the sl@gheaps?
BTW - Jesus was asked about the people who died when the Tower of Siloam collapsed and he gave his answer. (Gospel of Luke).
See "Laurence of Arabia." - "It is written..." etc. as an illustration of this.
Even in the early parts of the Bible, the prophets argue with God and appeal to God. They seek to change God's mind...
Who paid for the mines to be dug? Who dug the mines? Who built the sl@gheaps?
BTW - Jesus was asked about the people who died when the Tower of Siloam collapsed and he gave his answer. (Gospel of Luke).
Aka - can I ask you a personal question?
Are you looking forward to the Celtic game?
Are you looking forward to the Celtic game?
Vel I've visited Kelvingrove on many an occasion and am always enthralled with Dali's Christ of St John on the Cross ( I printed it's full title to save you having to tell me 
) but I also love most other paintings especially of that magnitude. The subject matter might be religious but that doesn't follow that to appreciate it you must somehow have an appreciation for Christianity as preached in our churches.
) but I also love most other paintings especially of that magnitude. The subject matter might be religious but that doesn't follow that to appreciate it you must somehow have an appreciation for Christianity as preached in our churches.
Yeah, yeah - whatever - but are you looking forward to the Celtic game?
How the feck would you lot know what's preached in the churches? -- You don't even go there!
According to Jesus's definition, this forum right here is the church -- it's not a building. Just because you're in a stable doesn't make you a horse...
Aka - has it dawned on you yet that I'm actually a proper spit 'n' polish protestant? Wanna sell me yer Rangers shares? I'm planning to join up wi' the 3-Berz...sell me some BROGUES ya bass!
Velasquez
How the feck would you lot know what's preached in the churches? -- You don't even go there!
Was taken there as a youngster by my parents, even joined a bible study group, but came to the conclusion it was a load of pap.
Hypocrite btw as I sometimes accompany my wife to the kirk but our minister is in no doubts as to my lack of belief.
You're earlier remarks give only OT references but we know that there exists many a contradiction between both testaments.
"Some say an eye for an eye but I say unto you ..." for example.
We are/were, whatever you want, told that god is a loving god that sent his son to earth to suffer for us.
Sorry but all the disease, all the millions of children born into famine areas just to suffer a slow lingering death from malnutrition, all the people killed in wars, all the families who suffer because of the loss of a loved one, all .... feck I could go on forever.
No, you can stick your religion.
How the feck would you lot know what's preached in the churches? -- You don't even go there!
Was taken there as a youngster by my parents, even joined a bible study group, but came to the conclusion it was a load of pap.
Hypocrite btw as I sometimes accompany my wife to the kirk but our minister is in no doubts as to my lack of belief.
You're earlier remarks give only OT references but we know that there exists many a contradiction between both testaments.
"Some say an eye for an eye but I say unto you ..." for example.
We are/were, whatever you want, told that god is a loving god that sent his son to earth to suffer for us.
Sorry but all the disease, all the millions of children born into famine areas just to suffer a slow lingering death from malnutrition, all the people killed in wars, all the families who suffer because of the loss of a loved one, all .... feck I could go on forever.
No, you can stick your religion.
The celtic game.
Yes looking forward to it. Celtic big favourites but we shall see who leaves parkhead in this window and who Rangers bring in on loan from Newcastle.
I'm pretty sure that given the fight that looks to be developing that Ashley will want to curry favour with the fans and giving us a few players on loan would do that.
Desperately we need to strengthen the defence and get a creative midfielder.
Yes looking forward to it. Celtic big favourites but we shall see who leaves parkhead in this window and who Rangers bring in on loan from Newcastle.
I'm pretty sure that given the fight that looks to be developing that Ashley will want to curry favour with the fans and giving us a few players on loan would do that.
Desperately we need to strengthen the defence and get a creative midfielder.
"Some say an eye for an eye but I say unto you ..."
Aka - you won't find that ANYWHERE in the Bible - are you sure you're not quoting from an Oasis album or something...?
Aka - you won't find that ANYWHERE in the Bible - are you sure you're not quoting from an Oasis album or something...?
BTW Vel I take it that you've studied the bible. BTI Bothwell st by any chance?
you will be assailed by images of Jesus Christ...paintings by Caravaggio, Velazquez, Michelangelo, Raphael, Rembrandt and so on...and MY GOD Happy...it's ABSOLUTELY beautiful and thrilling ; perhaps even "P1ss Christ" by Andres Serrano.
Not to mention EL GRECO, who, I'm sure you'll agree Diego, had an uncommon habit of making Jesus look gay...
As someone said, the Christians, the Mohammedans, the Jews, the others, all of them, they all say they have the true faith. Well they can't ALL be right, but they can ALL BE WRONG.
Not to mention EL GRECO, who, I'm sure you'll agree Diego, had an uncommon habit of making Jesus look gay...
As someone said, the Christians, the Mohammedans, the Jews, the others, all of them, they all say they have the true faith. Well they can't ALL be right, but they can ALL BE WRONG.
Well words to that affect. Was a long time ago.
Plus all that chyte about not eating shellfish or the woman marrying her rapist.
Full of pap. Better with a Nigel Tranter novel, he knew how to write about history.
Plus all that chyte about not eating shellfish or the woman marrying her rapist.
Full of pap. Better with a Nigel Tranter novel, he knew how to write about history.
Well, Ovalman, if he made Jesus look "gay", then all the other attenuated figures must have looked "gay" as well, including the BUILDINGS! What other 21st Century Ovalman-idiocy can you project into the distant past?
Since when did you become an art critic, Ovalman? You might as well give us an overview of Agnes Martin's art while yer at it...buy one get one free...
Ovalman - the NEW Sister Wendy...coming to you soon on BBC4...
What other 21st Century Ovalman-idiocy can you project into the distant past? Since when did you become an art critic, Ovalman? You might as well give us an overview of Agnes Martin's art while yer at it...buy one get one free...
Ovalman - the NEW Sister Wendy...coming to you soon on BBC4...
"Well words to that affect..."
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"I call the witness your Honour, an upstanding citizen from Ibrox : he wasn't able to attend on Monday because of the dodgy oysters he ate on Friday..."
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"I call the witness your Honour, an upstanding citizen from Ibrox : he wasn't able to attend on Monday because of the dodgy oysters he ate on Friday..."
Ok, ok - you got me -- they were mussels........FRESH mussels!
Ovalman? Did you mean Alias. You doped up? BTW I asked you a question. Scroll back and answer.
Feck - it's the SCAMPI I had for dinner, Aka - I'll have to apologise to Thin and Crispy now!
I don't know about Ovalman (who I had a run in with some time ago), but I know that however intelligent you come across as, you are just as much bigoted and lacking in understanding. Curious that you asked akabula if he was a mason - you asked me the same question some years ago and I answered you. Not that it matters really to me, but it unmasks your inbuilt bias and bigotry.
PS just how do you make a building look gay? LOOK AGAIN AND CLOSELY AT EL GRECO'S WORK.
I admit though, that it wasn't an original idea of mine, I learned from Ernest Hemingway. "Do you make him a maricon?" from "Death in the Afternoon". All of life is there.
PS just how do you make a building look gay? LOOK AGAIN AND CLOSELY AT EL GRECO'S WORK.
I admit though, that it wasn't an original idea of mine, I learned from Ernest Hemingway. "Do you make him a maricon?" from "Death in the Afternoon". All of life is there.
Aka - NOT everything that happens is God's will - you see this in the book of Jonah, Daniel, Job, etc. Muslims believe in "Fate" as was depicted in the film "Laurence of Arabia"...Allah's will is inscrutable and ultimately unknowable.
Very picky this god, only wants to be associated with the GOOD things (rather like politicians seeking re-election).
What happened to the all powerful, all knowing, loving god when anything nasty happens which presumably he could have foreseen and prevented?
Very picky this god, only wants to be associated with the GOOD things (rather like politicians seeking re-election).
What happened to the all powerful, all knowing, loving god when anything nasty happens which presumably he could have foreseen and prevented?
He cant be everywhere at once!, well actually he isnt anywhere at all.
Buenas noches.
Viva los Andaluces, Lorca, Velasquez, Picasso y todos los otros.
Viva los Andaluces, Lorca, Velasquez, Picasso y todos los otros.
Ovalman - tell me about Hemingway...how did THAT end...?
Ovalman, the "Bigot card" is the last refuge of the cheesy scoundrel...by your own definition, you're bigoted against Christians - so what? I can't hold it against you because, after all, that sounds a bit "gay"...if only Hemingway were here to tell us for sure, the auld bigot...
"Some years ago..."
Let it GO, man, let it GO...
Ovalman - I know you won't believe me (and who can blame you...?) but I want you to realize that this NAME THING is all part of an ARTISTIC experiment...indeed, soon I shall start to refer to you as Darryl "Cheddary C" McGrillen...don't worry - it will hopefully work out for the artistic benefit of the thread, like the bit where Quaid and Howser get mixed up in TOTAL RECALL.
Oh yes!
Ovalman, the "Bigot card" is the last refuge of the cheesy scoundrel...by your own definition, you're bigoted against Christians - so what? I can't hold it against you because, after all, that sounds a bit "gay"...if only Hemingway were here to tell us for sure, the auld bigot...
"Some years ago..."
Let it GO, man, let it GO...
Ovalman - I know you won't believe me (and who can blame you...?) but I want you to realize that this NAME THING is all part of an ARTISTIC experiment...indeed, soon I shall start to refer to you as Darryl "Cheddary C" McGrillen...don't worry - it will hopefully work out for the artistic benefit of the thread, like the bit where Quaid and Howser get mixed up in TOTAL RECALL.
Oh yes!
Foinavon - may I call you Sparkmaster?
Sparkmaster - It's FREE will...people have FREE will. This is not a world of automatons...it is also a FALLEN world.
Sparkmaster - It's FREE will...people have FREE will. This is not a world of automatons...it is also a FALLEN world.
Darryl "Cheddary C" McGrillen - cheers, mate - really enjoyed that discussion. Hemingway, eh?
The bloke that.
Wrote in really.
Short sentences...?
The bloke that.
Wrote in really.
Short sentences...?
You can call me what you like Velasquez.
Incidentally mussels were very kind to me today as I backed the 0-0 in the game between Municipal Mejillones v CD Trasandino and the mejillones failed to score even after an opponent was red carded. How's that for divine intervention?
Incidentally mussels were very kind to me today as I backed the 0-0 in the game between Municipal Mejillones v CD Trasandino and the mejillones failed to score even after an opponent was red carded. How's that for divine intervention?
Free will? Was just recalling that Melvyn did a programme on it not that long ago. I think they decided that Determinism was all the rage and that it was that wayward Monk Gregor Mendel who started the rot.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00z5y9z
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00z5y9z
And finally, may I, Francisco Zurbaran, humbly apologise to YOU, Hadeer the Roarer - AKA Thin and Crispy - for mocking you about a mere spelling error - it was WRONG and what's more, it was BIGOTED...it was also, according to Hemingway, possibly verging on some sort of GAYNESS, like the loin cloths and assorted pants in the paintings of El Greco, who wasn't even a real Spaniard anyway...not that it matters...
If only we had a proper GOVERNOR of this thread, someone who only goes by one name......like CMAT...
If only we had a proper GOVERNOR of this thread, someone who only goes by one name......like CMAT...
And even more finally...you...yes, YOU Zilzal - I have not forgotten those bleach-based slurs , so redolent of anti-Weegie BIGOTRY - and therefore, you shall be known as "Steinlen Won Fair and Square". This judgement would have been even more severe but for the fact that I did indeed chuck a big boattle o' Domestos doon the bog this mornin' tae wipe oot the fermented cabbage 'roun the porcelain...however, I DID NOT INHALE.
This punishment was tempered by your record as a superior and competent tipster in the 2014 flat season...it shall be imposed on you in a deterministic manner unless you utterly choose to reject it of your own free will.
, so redolent of anti-Weegie BIGOTRY - and therefore, you shall be known as "Steinlen Won Fair and Square". This judgement would have been even more severe but for the fact that I did indeed chuck a big boattle o' Domestos doon the bog this mornin' tae wipe oot the fermented cabbage 'roun the porcelain...however, I DID NOT INHALE.This punishment was tempered by your record as a superior and competent tipster in the 2014 flat season...it shall be imposed on you in a deterministic manner unless you utterly choose to reject it of your own free will.
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