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she is in isolation in London ffs.
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So you think it was a deliberate act?
What about the thousands of other health workers fighting this disease? Must they remain forever in the affected areas? Of course I don't think it was deliberate. It was idiotic. It's common sense that a person looking to help with the outbreak of ebola takes precautions not to become a host themselves and not to be a a potential source for brining the disease in to areas it is not. It appears that she has just hopped on a plane without any thought or concern that she may have it when a few days previously she was working in the 'red zone'. |
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I'm saying that they should be quarantined in Africa for 3 weeks to see if they are infected then allowed to come back without coming into contact with any of the locals.
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Of course I don't think it was deliberate. It was idiotic. It's common sense that a person looking to help with the outbreak of ebola takes precautions not to become a host themselves and not to be a a potential source for brining the disease in to areas it is not. It appears that she has just hopped on a plane without any thought or concern that she may have it when a few days previously she was working in the 'red zone'. This can't be the first health worker to return and I'm assuming they do get some kind of check before being allowed to fly. Surely further up the line must take responsibility if these checks, as it appears here, aren't sufficient. |
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Are you mad?
It won't matter until an infected health worker returns to Oxfordshire, where Cameron lives. |
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Just think if this got into London among say 10 people...it would be unstoppable.
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Plenty of doctors are critics I see. So it isn't just old jackbooted nazis like me muttering about it.
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the checks simply are not adequate. Doctors are now saying the same. |
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This can't be the first health worker to return and I'm assuming they do get some kind of check before being allowed to fly.
Surely further up the line must take responsibility if these checks, as it appears here, aren't sufficient. So it's someone else fault is it? The checks at airports consist of taking temperatures of the passengers and assessing someones risk of coming in to contact with ebola. It's very hard to screen effectively for infectious diseases at an airport. If people are going in to 'red zones' and working there they will know that symptoms don't show for on average 9 days so it's completely irresponsible to be jumping on planes a couple of days later and putting other people at risk of contracting the disease. |
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In some of these countries rumours going round not to seek medical help and to stay away from white people because they killing people. This is the level of racism that is being faced by people trying to save lives. It is a political game and don't expect any gratitude.
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"I'm saying that they should be quarantined in Africa for 3 weeks to see if they are infected then allowed to come back without coming into contact with any of the locals." Will you stop posting simple, effective, common sense solutions, the endless flow of "experts" on the telly will be out of work. ![]() |
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Shrewd over a thousand people have returned, are they all irresponsible?
Of course others must take the blame if it's as simple as what is being said. I feel that they've thought their checks were sufficient and been caught short. These health workers wouldn't be allowed to leave these infected areas unless those in charge thought it was okay. |
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I would have thought that maximum controls inc 3 wks quarantine etc would be applied until more is learned about this horrible disease. We/they seem to have a reactive policy to something that is far from understood. surely a proactive policy should be in place at this time, with maximum precautions forming the basis of any policy.
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Symptoms of Ebola virus disease
A person infected with Ebola virus will typically develop a fever, a headache, joint and muscle pain, a sore throat, and intense muscle weakness. These symptoms start suddenly between 2 and 21 days after becoming infected. That's the official word. Therefore, those admirable health workers who are selflessly putting themselves at risk by going out to West Africa to help should be happy to accept that they are to be quarantined and observed for 21 days before seeking to return to the UK. If there are no suitable quarantine locations before they fly home, then they could be brought back by military aircraft and accommodated in suitable quarantine here in the UK. If that's an over-reaction, then so be it. The human rights of the resident UK population are more significant than the human rights of the brave helpers who are prepared to risk their lives by their own choice. |
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Yes they are just as irresponsible if they have done what she has.
This isn't a case of someone inadvertently contracting the disease from visiting a country which has the disease. These health workers have went over there to help prevent Ebola. They have been working in the 'red zone' where risk of infection is high and they have knowledge about the disease from working with it. They have to know that there is a potential that they could be carrying the disease and they must know that symptoms may not show until they are back in the UK and they are not taking the necessary precautions when leaving these areas. They may as well not go at all if they are doing this. What do you expect the airports to do? The only way to confirm whether someone definitely has Ebola is by testing them and by that stage she would be in the UK anyway. |
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Shrewd all I'm saying is that whoever is in charge of the health workers must be allowing them to return.
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Amateur news conference now - no mic for questions
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If the symptoms can appear up to 21 days after contamination, the quarantine should be considerably more than that. I would suggest 30 days. They cannot possibly decide that just because they have no record of symptoms after 21 days, that this is the latest possible date. Where is the safety margin?
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Apparently soap and water stops this disease frpm spreading.
Latest death count = 7,905 Not slowing down at all then. Wonder it hasn't spread through London yet. |